How does one counter steppe warfare tactics?

how does one counter steppe warfare tactics?

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You can't.

Guns

Build a wall.

No, seriously. When China had a strong military and actually controlled the area that the great wall was located in, it was almost impossible for horsenignogs to get past.

either hide behind walls or bomb them if you can

or fight in a forest or something

>he fell for the mongols don't fight in forest meme

ps: I'm asking for M&B

with the same tactics. the genius of rome was to imitate its enemy and use their tactics better. This changed when it got afflicted by christianity for it cannot produce the genius or even the artist anymore. Just like budhism in china ruined the chinese society christianity did the same to the barbarian, it became self centred, they felt complete under gods guidance and everything else got given to the devil. so hail satan i guess

foot archers in fortifications do a great job of fucking up horse archers.
Massed archers in general counter light cavalry so long as the cavalry cannot charge them.
Heavy cavalry more less so. Like, until the crossbow archers could do jack shit to heavy cavalry.

If cavalry: charge
If infantry: sit on a hill

Long ranged foot archers to whittle them down, heavy cavalry to engage them
leave your infantrycucks behind, they'll just die.

they'll have dozens of horse archers
so its impossible without cavalry and archers? it would be the beginning of the game in this case

You can fuck the enemy ai by having them aggro to you and then running way behind your spearman, then they'll crash into your spearman and die. Or otherwise keep them distracted until your infantry gets in range.

But in real life yeah you need archers defensively and your own cavalry offensively to deal with horse archers.

All they do is run around like headless chickens and they AI cant aim for shit

You could kill 100 khergits with 20 Swadian Knights or Sarranid Mamelukes.

This.

Fortifications are the natural enemy of steppe people.

That, and other steppe people. Or

don't listen to the retards telling you to engage with heavy cavalry, light cavalry will play games with them until they're killed to shit.

use terrain to your advantage, place your men in rivers and on top of hills. Anything to slow down their lancer charge. archers are good to have when they try their horse archers try their shit, since they can return fire well.

have your cavalry dismount. they are more useful as infantry. particularly needed for knights and mameluks.
your infantry must be closely packed and stationary. give them the command to close their formation further until they are shield to shield and at least to rows deep. have them protect your archers. they will be caught and hacked to pieces by your impossible to move men.

this was how steppenigs fought IRL, they used baiting tactics to draw out formations and exploit weaknesses. don't let them.

forgot to mention

t. former Khergit turned Nord Pro™

>le mongols were superior xD

why so many mongolboo cucks here?

Castles, crossbows, heavily armoured knights.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary#Military_reforms

The way the Han dealt with the Xiongnu was a mix of
a) hire your own steppe light cavalry to run them down/drive them off
b) a LOT of crossbows, with the horses/chariots to transport the people shooting them
c) well-supplied outposts and supply depots that local garrisons can quickly take advantage of in their advance.
If all else fails you can always just marry one of your daughters to the strongest Chanyu and throw livestock at them until they fuck off.

they were impressive in their own way, but normies got ahold of them (just like Vikings) and ruined there image so uber-contrarian Veeky Forums has to hate them.

that's you. you're the knee-jerk contrarian.

It's the truth. Only after guns were invented and widely adopted you see settled armies regularly beating nomad armies.

They were literally the single deadliest military force of the pre-gunpowder era.

That's just a fact.

>knee-jerk contrarian.

nice buzzword kid

GJ proving his point, kiddo

the real issue is that they show up with lots of light cavalry every year, shoot at you until you get behind walls and pillage your shit. it's not easy to convince them to stop except by paying tribute.