That's not technically right since I never wore it on the first place. I still need 5 levels for no penalties
Wyatt Kelly
Gargs cannot cast statue form, and one particularly butthurt user was trying to force the bloatform meme because of his irrational hatered towards that spell. It is also very likely that he was also trying to force that chei pasta.
Hudson Reed
yo mom can't cast statue form because she so fat the booty won't meld
Jordan Smith
Shields are really only effective against ranged attacks. All these hydras and yaks aren't going to be significantly weaker just because you can put on a big boy shield instead of a buckler.
It's sort of legitimate for an octopode berserker to want a +0 shield, but you won't actually need it until late dungeon or lair branches. Even in the orcish mines they don't use ranged attacks enough for it to matter.
Benjamin Myers
Around the 40's where everything has mana bolts, mana storm and summons summoners summoning summoners summoning summoners. you're also wasting like 6 hours instead of just tele/frost bolting swamp hydras, then the young dragons in the mountains then cherry picking in arena/dragon's lair to skip like 60% of the game.
Ethan Scott
Reminder to use rlgrobin accounts if you wanna show other anons how to play and to know when an user from here is playing! User: rlgrobin Pass: ownfault EXCEPT for xtahua, the pass there is robin!
Jose Scott
When it comes to roguelikes how baby mode is Angband?
Nathan Jenkins
Do you like doing the same thing over and over, but DCSS is too short for you? If that's the case, check out Angband.
Elijah Russell
It's like Diablo 2.
Jose Johnson
this is pretty accurate
Jace Cruz
Angband is good if you ironman it.
>disconnected stairs >no returning to town >down stairs only
Evan Wright
Rogue is better
Landon Ward
>dynahack at last, I learned to appreciate and love ascii and *hack
Aiden Perez
How do the danger levels / dungeon levels work in PCB?
As in, what "danger level" will e.g. L10 of the Stronghold be? Is there a general rule of thumb for the max depth a character of a specific level should go?
I'm very new to the game, but I've played vanilla Angband and Sil.
Jose Myers
>disconnected stairs >down stairs only
but why both
Justin Harris
TROG TROG TROG TROG
Sebastian Lewis
This would be even nicer if I could actually see the gateway without getting killed by the raiju first desu
Hunter Flores
ITs below him
Colton Carter
>implying I can't tab raijus as well
Jeremiah Richardson
Gotten inspired by the user making that 'angry ogre noises' pic Was thinking of bloat instead of stone but meh Im bored
Ryan Phillips
Which God is more Paladinish Zin or TSO ? I need god for my memepaladin.
Brandon Lopez
JUST
Michael Morgan
Yeah it was
That was the most stupid thing I've ever done in Crawl
Charles Jones
>Fighting by a troll that's a little early, figure i'll get some help from nem >Draw exile >Abyssed at XL:11 >Rapidly burn through consumables and die Fucking kill yourself devs
Read the section on it in the help files. Combination of strength of the monsters and loot on the floor/approximately the level of monsters that will be found there with some variation. This is why a floor with the +3 feeling generally has an exceptional item, a unique, or a bunch of OOD monsters kicking around. Feeling drops down as you kill the dudes and interact with the loot and rise when more dangerous monsters spawn
Your level equivalent to the dungeon floor then increasing as you get deeper. You'll know cause you're pushing the floor over.
TSO is more tabdude holy warrior, Zin is more of a priestly paladin laying down phat verses on heretical filth. HOGl of Zin and go into orc with Invocs at 27 for a good time.
Jose Robinson
>Not immediately teleporting
Gavin Wood
AFAIK the exile card only abysses you if no monsters are in LOS? or maybe that's just when it's from a legendary deck
Nolan Hill
Nop, it can abyss anyone, including yourself, no matter what
James Green
I was holding down arrow and drinking applejuice
Henry Miller
sometimes ambushes get the first move
i lost a character to something like that but with fearlords at 555
Jackson Edwards
It was a plain escape deck with 11 invo adjacent to a troll. The devs have been really fucking with nem and decks. It says something when you can only get decks from nem, they now use invo, and the evo skill icon is a fucking spade.
Christian Bell
>drawing from non-legendary escape >ever
you'd be better off just using summoning to run away tbqh familia
Carter Parker
He's gone from god of yu-gi-oh, to god of russian roulette, to god of shitty-controlled-Xom
Adrian Cruz
Don't hold shit down, shift move or use the travel commands. PCB is a lesson in OTKO's. You can't be fucking around.
Muh speed.
I don't even know what's going on anymore. I blasted a cyclops for 3/4 of its health with a plain deck of dest. I killed a troll with tomahawks with 1.7 skill. It's insanity.
Henry Martinez
>It's insanity. Whenever you do anything in Crawl, it computes a number in a really complicated way and then rolls 1dX.
Gavin Gonzalez
>the evo skill icon is a fucking spade
now that's just mean
Jose Murphy
Dicks a best.
Lucas Myers
As a ghoul monk of oka, should I ever bother to look into any ranged weapons or magic, or just melee only unarmed for notlife?
Also Oka please stop gifting me throwing weapons. The skill is only 1.4 because I forgot to change auto to manual at the start.
Owen White
>-Tele fault
Andrew Gomez
I don't have any scrolls or wands of tele to teleport with anyway.
Lincoln Kelly
>Needing teleport Own fault.
Jayden Hughes
>having more than one way to kill enemies Nah you should just throw that +10 arbalest into the lava.
Caleb Wright
i think ammo gifts have a separate timer
Ryder Rivera
That's actually not such a bad idea with crossbows
Lucas Hernandez
what are the best ranged weapons in crawl that aren't super rare shit like triple xbows?
Thomas Morris
+9 branded longbows were basically ranged deathrays in older versions of DCSS.
They probably still are.
Aiden Jackson
I mean, if you want to go ranged you can just get bows
With crossbows you have 3 choices of weapon: super shit, shit and good but very rare, and you need a similar amount of xp to get "shit" to mindelay than you would for a longbow assuming neutral apts (and far more if you get "good"). Longbows are far more common, as is their ammo
Justin Johnson
remember when you could enchant stacks of arrows and bless them with holy wrath?
then fire them from a +9 speed bow?
Evan Kelly
damn. seems kinda counter-intuitive, I never used ranged in dcss outside of throwing much, but I imagined crossbows were stronger than bows but slower or just needed more exp or something. so basically bows are the way to go if you want to actually kill things at a distance and not just soften them up while you get into melee range?
Jaxson Price
They are.
Arbalest is a ranged great mace and you'll get some to wash up. you'll get a tbow from Oka/Trog or one of your 6ish acq's
Eh, they're not. It's like demon swords. They work but you need slaying or a way to get a lot of hits in. Not bad by any means, especially if you have a good apt but it's eh.
Remember when you enchanted a thousand arrows to +9?
Nicholas Reyes
Crossbows can be viable if you do extended and can dump the XP into getting a triple xbow to mindelay, otherwise they're iffy and usually people don't recommend them
Gabriel Perez
Why are enchanting scrolls wasted if you don't use them? I think it would be better if it was like ID scrolls and you could simply choose not to use them, people almost always read-ID scrolls anyways so there's not much point in punishing them for doing so except adding a mild inconvenience to the early game
Lincoln Russell
>get a permanent +1 to your weapon >this is considered a punishment somehow
Christian Lewis
If you'll read ID pay the toll. If you're so shit you fatfinger incessantly then update your rc file to automatically slap !r!r on them.
Josiah Davis
but amnesia, enchant, blink, and id are all wasted if you read them without knowing what they are. i'm fairly certain you can cancel enchant scrolls after reading them if you've identified them
Isaac Taylor
More that sometimes it's one of the first scrolls you get and you end up getting +1 to a useless weapon you'll discard next dungeon level Who DOESN'T read ID everything early on? I have literally never seen someone say ID is best used on early scrolls
Blake Baker
>?id >wasted que?
>?amnesia >wasted que?
Adam Morris
Then suck it up. You're identifying it by using the power of the scroll. You don't get to shove it back in, things don't work like that.
Andrew Hughes
You technically can cancel them but the scroll is destroyed. ID you can cancel free of consequence. Blink is actually valuable and doesn't show up that early very often so it makes sense that you'd be punished for read-IDing it. I feel the same way about amnesia
Thomas Long
Read-IDing scrolls is still optimal behavior. The fact that there are downsides to it should not trigger your autism this much, because that's how pretty much everything everywhere is.
Nathan Robinson
Yes, he agrees with you
Ayden Howard
>Read-IDing scrolls is still optimal behavior. Circumstantially.
Isaac Campbell
i'm not complaining, the guy was complaining about enchant armor/weapon scrolls being destroyed upon cancellation but i'm just saying they function like every other scroll and aren't a special case. yeah, the guy who posted it claimed you could cancel ?identify without wasting the scroll even if it's un-ID'd which isn't the case
Liam Walker
meant to reply to
Joshua Wood
>Play Nethack >I see a living mold and kill it >I eat the mold >Orc comes in the room >I kill the orc >I hear an audience applaud >Orc corpse turns into troll then a turtle and also a lamp >I seem to be hallucinating >Orc was actually my little dog >Decide not to waste the little animal and eat it >Die of sickness because meat was tainted.
Biggest tragedy of my life.
Luke Cox
Funfact, if your dog/horse wont it, you probably shouldn't.
Chase Campbell
The ogres face was my inspiration for drawing that gr's face like that so you got it most of the way right.
Christopher Cruz
Would it it it?
Liam Powell
Well that's not the nicest thing to say.
Thomas Kelly
eat
Hudson Moore
Does every playable race in DCSS have at least one correspondent unique?
Nolan Watson
#rekt
Matthew Morales
holy shit the famous basil from sc2g???
Carter Smith
Man, you know what's fucking dumb?
Gargoyles!
Nathan Murphy
Is there an actual explanation why gargoyles have to eat
Jaxson Clark
i can't think of any vine stalkers uniques
Tyler Torres
>chei pasta. What cheipasta? "Take it easy?"
Justin Green
Probably not one that would satisfy any degree of autism, no.
Asher Diaz
no ant, no vinestalker, no gargoyle, no high elf, no ghoul
Owen Butler
Is there ever a reason to use slings incrawl?
Ryder Powell
They add 5 base damage to your stones for 0.1 delay unskilled. Also halflings can get to mindelay with them for approximately 1 yak of XP.
Jaxon Lopez
>tfw you realize that the mace started as a hammer, then the artist changed it because hammers don't exist would you draw a slutty mummy pls
William Perry
THEY HAVE SILLY FACES Why would you want to play a Gargoyle ever?
It was meant to be a cool geometrical mace.
Luke Moore
>artifact mace that's a pretty terrible base desu at least shortblade artifacts have a tiny max-delay for unskilled users and good stabbing for skilled users
Logan Sanders
Autism.
Lucas King
I don't think Gargoyles have faces. They're like the statues ingame: features worn away by time. They might have something like hooves, going by the differently shaped feet some of them have. rude
Easton Price
Early on they're pretty decent for anyone since the ranged combat rework lets you do a little damage with stones and bullets you pickup even unskilled. Halflings have a great apt for them so it's free fuck you juice. Do your HaHu of Oka runs some time and you'll never look back. You're bad at magic and are using a shield so you can't just use an arbalest/longbow. While not exceptional, it's free damage and ranged targets are soft anyway. Oka/Trog will give more steel bullets and chei will increase your damage
Ethan Barnes
why do they wear pants
Logan Evans
>Fire up a HaHu >Oka altar on D:2 Inb4 Spi:5 QB of distortion PTSD again
Jacob Bailey
+6 hunting sling on d:2
Tyler Ortiz
Scimitar of freezing from a d:5 wight
Jackson Green
>+3 of greatsling on d:9 from Oka >tfw all that shit slowed by cold in lair
John Garcia
I threw it into the lava, so Oka decided to gift me a +5 triple xbow of flaming.
Does this go into the lava too?
Tyler Thomas
Save that one, how far have you advanced?
Jayden Johnson
you can only cancel using scrolls after they're already identified. the one you read-id is always gonna be consumed no matter what
Hudson Adams
well there's some basil somewhere because he replaced rlgrobin's rcfile on CAO with his own
Jason Kelly
Wow whoever was in the robin a few moments ago really fucked shit up, baka senpai