Historically, is there any country and people in the history of the Earth more evil than America and Americans?

Historically, is there any country and people in the history of the Earth more evil than America and Americans?

Define "evil"
Or go back to /int/

In terms of the amount of sheer evil done the award goes to Maoist China.

In terms of the most evil per capita, Pol Pot would be a strong contender.

However these states suffered from war, impoverishment and political instability, in terms of states that committed great evil without any practical need to do so, Nazi Germany probably wins on that count.

As a liberal democracy the US is pretty low down on the list.

USA is literally the most benevolent empire that has ever existed.
They do far more good than evil.

Yeah the native americans were truly evil.
USA not so much.

This

And I don't even like the US or their policies.

Of course they are self-serving, of course they kill, torture and imprison people, of course they steal resources and topple rulers around the world.

But imagine a world where it was Chinese or Sovjet or French or Indian or Brazilian carrier groups that sailed the seas, whose soldiers and money toppled dictators, whose values were seen as the highest expression of freedom and liberty..

Empires aren't inherently good, but the American one is benign compared to the alternatives

I'm no fan of Chomsky, but that's some bullshit, user. The shit the US did to Central and South America, Cambodia and Iraq were hideous, although rather routine as far as Hegemonic power-playing is concerned. At least we don't engineer famines like some Empires have done *cough*Britain*cough*

>As a liberal democracy
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>in terms of states that committed great evil without any practical need to do so, Nazi Germany probably wins on that count
Name one evil they committed (inb4 6gorillion) that wasn't justified (pro tip: there is none)

Is it really though? Supporting death squads in s America, killing untold numbers in Vietnam using conventional and chemical weapons. Supporting saddam then toppling him, nuking and firebombing japs and Germans? The U.S. Is just as fucked as the rest of them they are just bigger hypocrites.

The Germans had a much much higher killcount
The Japanese had a much much higher killcount
And I am just talking about civilians here

Vietnam was a quagmire, no doubt, but the Americans certainly didn't go all-out, or else the population would have been halved or more.
Supporting death squads in civil wars is nasty as well, but the Sovjets did this too, and the most murderous civil wars were suported by Russia and later China, not the US (Chinese communists, various insane dictators in Africa, Pol Pot, etc.)

Like I said, compared to the contenders, the US is relatively benign.

Saddam was only supported so long as he was a power wedge against our once friends now enemies Iran. As soon as he decided to fuck up neutral Kuwait which put him at odds with Saudi Arabia our, uh, "friends," he may as well have put out a sign saying I'm s huge dumbass please come rape my face. Hardly something evil or cruel to shitfuck a shitfucker.

Not evil, but is there any country on earth more based on lies and hypocrisy than America?

I think not.

From the very start
>Freedom and equality for all men! (Except blacks, Injuns, uh, anyone not WASP)
>We are the leaders of democracy! (Two clone parties with almost identical policies, no one else allowed)
>We will bring freedom to the world (brings total destruction of nations and endless civil war)
>And of course, being the leader in racism and discrimination for a Western country (shoots black kid for smiling)

Evil is a meme.

What serves a states interests is good.

Russia

>>We are the leaders of democracy! (Two clone parties with almost identical policies, no one else allowed)
To be entirely fair, for the first fifty years or so the two parties were "the federal govt. should have more power" and "the federal govt. should not have more power," which isn't exactly a false dichotomy.

Bringing freedom and liberation has been the biggest meme reason for war since ancient times.

Everybody knows it's just a pretext for other agendas.

Yes but never so fake and ulterior as the USA.

At least when France, Britain and others invaded a place, took it over and ruled it, at least they did actually bring modern technology, infrastructure, and political ideas. Other than Africa, most post colonial countries are developing and beginning to do well.

Again, imagine the Soviet Union having that Kind of power and what they would do with it.

The firebombings were pretty fucked up but you have to remember it was during ww2 and the US at least tried daytime Precision bombing before going all out on Japanese Cities.

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>Evil

Can you moralfags leave?

>most post colonial countries are developing
All post-colonial countries are developing countries outside of American colonies. Our former (really current) colonies, outside of the Philippines, are developed.

>imagine the Soviet Union having that Kind of power

didn't they have it?

>not engineering famines that kill millions pretty much just on principle
>not deathcamping and torturing it up while you tell everyone you're the injured party
>not having your merchants wage full-scale wars to force people to open their markets so you can sell them society-collapsing drugs
>not outsourcing your kikery to the worst of the locals everywhere you go so you can get away with anything and have the people you just gangraped not even know enough to be mad at you instead of them
>not being the biggest hyperjews ever to exist while managing your PR so carefully nobody but worthless hippies know/care about all your atrocities

You can can keep your edgy assyrians and muh hitlers and pol pots, us Brits are the all time champion evil empire

Mongols, Assyrians, Aztecs... what exactly did Americans do that was so evil? Because Mongols raped everything in sight and made piles of skulls for fun, Assyrians had too many forms of torture to name, and Aztecs vivisected their subjects, flayed their skin while alive and then the priests wore it like a costume until it rotted off. Those would definitely be my top 3, Americans wouldn't even make top 25.

Germans.

Shut your mouth you fucking traitor, we dindu nuffin.