China Thread

What was the best Chinese imperial dynasty and why was it objectively the glorious Tang Dynasty?

Ming

Yuan

Eunuchs

Filthy Mongolians

Qing.

Cao Wei

Its the HAN

HUGE
ASIAN
NIPPLES

Song.


As a total aside, why are people so wierd about Chiang Kai-Shek.

I was in a couple of threads which mentioned him, one about WW2, and another specifically about the KMT, and you get this weird reflex thing that if you point out the numerous problems in the KMT as an institution and Chaing personally, it HAS to be because you're a crazy pinko commie who wanted millions to die in the great leap forward.

Why is it so hard for people to accept that they were both shit?

They drank the left & right cool aid.

As opposed to seeing cold war conflicts through the lenses of local issues and vested interests,

Ming

I don't know what you're talking about but I imagine they hate him because he took everything that Sun Yat-sen strived for and shit all over it for personal gain.

because you don't lurk enough to be swayed by just 2 thread

DEATH TO MING!!

>tfw when westener and know nothing about China's history
what are some essential things about china's history that everyone should know Veeky Forums

It's longer than Western history, and more complex and difficult to separate fact from fiction.

Imperial China was not a clear progression from dynasty-to-dynasty. There were often huge periods of interregnum between dynasties in which China reverted to kingdoms or there were various rival dynasties. For instance, the period between the Han and Sui dynasties was around 300 years of competing polities. Even during some of the more well known imperial dynasties, like the Song or Tang, China wasn't always completely unified.

Another thing is that due to the geography of the Northern Chinese Plain, China was constantly subject to incursions by steppe invaders. Two of the imperial dynasties, the Yuan and the Qing, were steppe peoples.

>Tang
>not Song
Fucking gweilo

>Manchus
>Steppe people
Choose one

Because most people who dislike Chaing are crazy pinko commies who wanted millions to die in the great leap forward. People who dislike him because he was an incompetent moron are far fewer than those who dislike him because he got in the way of MUH GLOBAL AUTISMVOLUTION.

Nomnomnom

Delisch as fuark

...

Nigga just cuz they had Sinicized doesn't mean they didn't come from the grasslands

Manchus aren't nomads.

Manchus didn't come from the Grasslands m8, they come from what is now Manchuria/Northern China.

Its their Jurchen Ancestors who were staight outta Steppes. These cunts then settled in Northern China, created the Jin Dynasty, and tried their hand at invading the whole thing during the late 1100s. And failing.

Afterwards the Jurchens spent 1200s to 1500s stewing in Chinese culture and becoming a semi-settled people, with the non-settled pastoralists living life akin to Cowboys.

Manchuria only came about during the decline of the Ming and Hong Taiji's unification & rebellion of the Jurchens - who were a non-Chinese minority living in the Ming Dynasty at that point. Decades later, his Children ended up invading China itself

Nice reference.

god tier
>Song

great tier
>Tang
>Ming
>Han

shit tier
>Qin
>Qing
>everything else