/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

SMTIV Apocalypse information
pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

How to avoid spoilers
pastebin.com/LMEedWHf

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
collabedit.com/uvwta
pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

MTII translation project
dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php?build=5
(This build is downloadable and playable)

Starter guide
i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

Tips and tricks
pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

OST links
pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

Misc. translations
pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

Booru
smtg.booru.org/

Recommended reading
pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

Running Giten Megami Tensei in windowed mode with Chiitrans:
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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Please do not disrespect our hero and savior Flynn

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

LUCK IS THE ONLY PATH
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Soft_member
Soft_member

Fuck Flynn

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

You'll have to wait in line behind a good 2/3 of Tokyo.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I'd rather Pascal.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

gladly

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

How the FUCK do I beat the Frost King? This is bullshit. I've attempted it 3 times now with demons that know fire spells, and he 1 shots everything after smirking. Do I just grind and overlevel him?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I said do not disrespect our hero and savior

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

One of the early demons has a skill that removes smirk. You literally get it specifically for that battle. I think Angel learns it.

I recall I got it a few battles before King Frost and thinking to myself
Jesus christ, Atlus, you shouldn't be so obvious.
but, I guess they should for people like you.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Do you guys want an album of 200 Jack Frost images?

Illusionz
Illusionz

you can actually use Hope's ring this time around
Neat.

Inmate
Inmate

I unlocked the skill smirk removal skill after defeating him, beat it on my fourth try by fusing demons with ice resistance, though it still felt like luck was a big factor.

eGremlin
eGremlin

yeah

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

have to wait until tomorrow to get my IV cartridge back for my save file stuff

I miss my party of Egyptian demons, these guys all suck

Flameblow
Flameblow

I curb stomped that faggot, I recall. I had plenty of Fire, Magaon and I think I broke his second turn with my party members. Nozomi took pictures of his ass so he missed a lot too.
Then again, I was in Conflict, not in War or Apocalypse like how many people here are.

RumChicken
RumChicken

roll World of Dex
get the 1-4 hits gun and fire bullets
destroy him before he even uses the Smirk power

EZ

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Hee-yeah

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Hee-Hell yes.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Im the original poster. I am playing in war and using Navarre. Should I use the slut instead?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Navare is probably better, I had Nozomi for IV nostalgia. Navarre should help more since he can use Kajas and hit the weakness with Agi stones. If you have Rakunda or Tarukaja that early, try to do the "any pussy any day" approach and try to kill him quickly.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Me too.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Should I go for a mag/luck build or dex/luck one?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Full Agi

takes2long
takes2long

I'm having a lot of fun with Dex/Luck after being bored to tears with Magic in IV

but then again Nanashi uses a sword so what the fuck do we know

Emberburn
Emberburn

I'VE FLOWN TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN, MY INTERNET BROWSER WASN'T READY FOR THIS

FastChef
FastChef

WORLD OF STR and some agility/luck

DID IT IN 4, GONNA DO IT IN 4A.

RumChicken
RumChicken

but then again Nanashi uses a sword so what the fuck do we know
have you ever used that sword aside of cutscenes, though?

Just equip guns and put a cap on everyone's asses until they shit out lead.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

How good is luck build

Mag or Physical?

5mileys
5mileys

I'm putting points in dex, but I see some other anons saying dex is shit.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Whichever can land a hit. For me, it was Physical.

farquit
farquit

Xth for doing whatever Dagda says in hopes that you can hear those two special words as he pounds your ass

My Godslayer

Supergrass
Supergrass

Luck build is focused on either Str or Dex
Str for Physical skills, Lances (1-4 hits), and Multi-attacking hits.
Dex for Gun skills, Bazookas (1-4 hits) and ailment bullets.

Phys attacks do more damage, but if the enemy blocks or resists Phys you're fucked.
Gun deals less damage, but they can inflict ailments (Pink Bullets can charm and enemies fight themselves) and bullets can switch into pretty much any element type.

People prefer guns for the most part.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

okay so it's more like roughly 200 because I found some duplicates
imgur.com/a/cqWtl

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I want to PROTECT Asahi

FastChef
FastChef

I want to cumstain Pascal

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

all dlc uploaded
happy days

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

its true
Well I'll be damned.

Skullbone
Skullbone

You are my god.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Thanks user.

King_Martha
King_Martha

how the hell did he access dlc not even out yet? was it on the cart and he datamined it?

Playboyize
Playboyize

3dsiso?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Link for the lazy

mega.nz/#!1wUhwZzC!Niru70NbFfv5AdAswxg9ZbLihFzybR7Q_V4aUTJ9wl8

Emberfire
Emberfire

You can actually access most, if not all, the DLC from a JP save on the NA version. Its all just keys.

Soft_member
Soft_member

You're a saint.

DeathDog
DeathDog

moralcucks will have to wait to learn all the secrets of the story

JunkTop
JunkTop

im pretty glad because im about to hit level 99 and didnt want to stop levelling

Playboyize
Playboyize

I don't mind the wait. I've been taking it slow. I just finished seeing boss die.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

To the guy who said Debilitate cost 100 mana, that might be because the demon you stuck it on has weak buff skill. Might be worth looking for something that has nicer buff affinity.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

2nd Shesha basically doesn't do anything because I had Berserker and Girimehkala

Is there a game where Girimehkala ISN'T super useful to have? Repel Phys steals so many turns.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Soul Hackers.

askme
askme

debilitate has base 100mp cost and goes down by 10 every rank

Soft_member
Soft_member

WHY IS THE SPACE MARINE NOT IN THE MESSIAHS IN THE DIAMOND REALM DLC.

NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT, HE DIDN'T APPEAR IN THE SMTXFE VIDEO, EVEN THE IF... FAGGOT GOT IN THERE

EXPLAIN THIS /smtg/

WebTool
WebTool

for Messiahs in the Diamond Realm DLC, do I need Nanashi to be strong, or can I beat it any time I want.

Is there a reward for it?

Nojokur
Nojokur

He is in the DLC. They didn't need to put a portrait in because we could use items the whole time.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

nips got so assblasted SJ was not in Tokyo or wasn't fellating japan in some way they don't consider it a mainline SMT.

Snarelure
Snarelure

watch video of Stephen DLC fight
he finishes the first phase
MEIN FUHRER
I CAN VALK
final phase begin
there are 20 minutes left on the video
oh boy...

idontknow
idontknow

A Godslayer Needs Items

i was gunna go to bed but WE INCENSE FARM NOW

RavySnake
RavySnake

When do Skill Expansions get unlocked? I have 1 and 2 and I'm level 44. Just did the Prometheus challenge quest. Is it linked to level or Story progress?

Methshot
Methshot

I believe its locked to level.

Booteefool
Booteefool

2nd at 25
3rd at 50
4th at 75

King_Martha
King_Martha

level 25, 50, and 75 (!!! holy mackerel!)

Firespawn
Firespawn

Why is Demi-fiend so fucking angry in Apocalypse?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Because he's a True Demon

King_Martha
King_Martha

Which dlc is the level unlock one? I dont see it in my quests

Also
play item dlc
7 inceses on the very first battle

iluvmen
iluvmen

pirate bros get the game a week in advance
get all the DLC a MONTH in advance holy mackerel!
It doesn't pay to pay for vidya.

Always pirate.

Nojokur
Nojokur

PINS
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Spamalot
Spamalot

Recarm

Post your current team

Lv 45 MC (STR/LU build)
Lv 52 Dominion
Lv 45 Ishtar
Lv 45 Silky
Lv 42 Frost Ace as backup

Booteefool
Booteefool

SMT IV Apocalypse: You picked Neutral, right you sack of shit?

idontknow
idontknow

Does War difficulty really spike compendium prices?

happy_sad
happy_sad

start game
woah flynn will save us
we have flynn!
fuck god and fuck demon

massdebater
massdebater

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT FLYNN

farquit
farquit

Now, I'm not gay or anything, but I'd definitely devour Flynn's cock.

Bidwell
Bidwell

It isn't a quest, if you installed it you can reach level 999.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

t. all of Shinjuku

StonedTime
StonedTime

Does anyone else feel like the demon buying quest is lame because it takes the fun out of fusions

I dont think you can get dionysus by fusing him tho so thats cool

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

How the fuck do I get into Tsukiji Konganji?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Did you not pick up Toki? The game tells you to

RumChicken
RumChicken

where do I pick up Toki?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

mindless drones like alignments fags can only dream to reach such enlightenment

viagrandad
viagrandad

Ginza, in the actual downtown section of it. Where you saw Flynn get kidnapped

5mileys
5mileys

Undub DLC when?

Also, is the undub (RF) compatible with the USA DLC?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I still can't find Toki fuck, is it the part that there are many shops?

TreeEater
TreeEater

Are you playing on normal?
I beat him on apocalypse mode by using Angel to remove smirk every turn. The rest is standard SMT fare, just fuse demons with the right resistances.

Wait until the second boss, the guy on a boat. He wrecked my shit multiple times.

Skullbone
Skullbone

You do the hokey pokey and then you follow the Toki.

TechHater
TechHater

CUTE!!!!

Emberfire
Emberfire

Ok, I'm a dumb idiot that totally missed it. Thanks for your help.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Is there a way to pick and choose what DLC to install/activate?

Playboyize
Playboyize

3DS piracy is so insanely good that you can literally connect to the eshop and download any game or DLC by tricking the system into thinking you bought the entire store, and you can't even get banned.

Nintendo got fully cucked, meanwhile PC piracy which used to be paradise is fucking dying due to denuvo. What a weird time to live in.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

awwww man, Atlus is selling out and just makes Persona spinoffs now, I wonder why they don't make mainline games anymore
hold up let me just """""borrow"""""" this new mainland game real quick haha

You're killing /smtg/ you fucks

Lunatick
Lunatick

just beat snek
see that DLC is out
go to download it and added it onto the game
realize that I hadn't ever saved the game
JUST

takes2long
takes2long

i'm near the end of the game, in the final dungeon
there's a shit ton of special fusions where i only need one more demon and it's the same one
it's some humanoid lady with short hair and earrings and she's sitting and her species is megami
where do i find her?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

p5 W H E N

SniperGod
SniperGod

I'm gonna marry Flynn!

Illusionz
Illusionz

Shut up Nozomi

Playboyize
Playboyize

Trying to chain fuse the fucking unique herald skills onto an ultra low level demon
kill me.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Seems weird that str and dex only affect one damage type respectively now
Are they still pretty viable?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Is there a compendium percentage in Apocalypse?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Anyone been able to import a save in a non-legit version yet?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I can't wait to walk around campus picking up DDS cards from the two or three other dudes I would pick up cards from in IV

We will never meet, but we share a bond

5mileys
5mileys

There is not. The majority of the DLC show up in game as challenge quests so you can ignore those if you don't want to do them.

w8t4u
w8t4u

import IV save
rewards are objectively better than any starting equipment and give an advantage
Atlus is making the game easier specifically because I'm a veteran of the previous game

Something about this seems backwards
I'm never even gonna end up using these, it feels cheap

TreeEater
TreeEater

Why not

You earned it

Emberburn
Emberburn

Is apocalypse worth $75? How much better than 4 is it?

Flameblow
Flameblow

I'd rather have some weird challenge run item or one that has a weird effect than a piece of equipment that just makes the first few hours too easy

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

mfw /smtg/ is dead cause people are busy actually playing a video game

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

That's also how I think.

Pre-order bonuses and item/exp DLC and shit like that just rub me the wrong way, I never use them. If we cross the line where a game isn't balanced 100% around its own vacuum then the endpoint to that is the shitshow that is the mobile gaming market, where games are designed around selling external advantages. Not that 3DS RPGs are too far off, considering both SMT and Fire Emblem sell blatantly overpowered free exp/item DLC, I just try to ignore them and pray that their existence doesn't influence game design in any way.

Methnerd
Methnerd

75 wtf?

it cost 50 bro

Flameblow
Flameblow

And we're all people of good taste and went for STR builds

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Sounds like you need the anarchy earring.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I'm in canada and all our 3ds games are 50 except for this one apparently.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Wait i import SMT4 saves and I got nothing after i "died"

?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

new SMT game comes out the same week I have a paper due, multiple assignments, two tests, and my friend needs emotional support

I just wanted to fuse my fucking demons

w8t4u
w8t4u

i would buy online fuck that.

also its good so far for me and if that doesn't do it for you then here is something.

You fight God and go naruto on his people or can go animu deathnote and kill all.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Once you're officially a hunter, you go to the inbox icon and open message 0.

whereismyname
whereismyname

fuck guess i am still a kid afterall

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

4 MAG 1 AGI or 3 MAG 1 AGI 1 LUCK?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I've been going 3/1/1. Haven't had any issues.

Nojokur
Nojokur

3 dex 1 agi 1 luck ;^)

RavySnake
RavySnake

pls respond

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

MAG

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

what about digital devil saga doing it?

Bidwell
Bidwell

Anat?

SniperGod
SniperGod

how bad is final's localization and translation? if it's really that bad will there be a fan translation?

hairygrape
hairygrape

if it's really that bad will there be a fan translation?

lol fuck no, but maybe a fanpatch can be made to fix that one part where there is untranslated text since Atlus doesn't give enough of a fuck to make an official patch

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

i think so. where would i find her?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

the sound effect whenever someone voices YHVH's name

RavySnake
RavySnake

i like how it vaguely sounds like someone spelling it

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I did 3 MAG 1 AGI and 1 Luck in SMT IV and it ended up working out really well for me.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Why do you need luck for Magic

Skullbone
Skullbone

In case you decide to learn some status effect/instant death spells and you want them to actually hit. MAG has diminising returns over 300.

massdebater
massdebater

It's different, because you only get the bonuses in DDS2 if you fulfill certain conditions in DDS1 and you don't even reap the rewards from fulfilling those conditions until the final dungeon in DDS2 anyway.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

leveling luck on a mag build in smt iv

lmfao

Bidwell
Bidwell

Magic can crit in Apocalypse.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Source?

Methnerd
Methnerd

What he said wasn't quite true. It was originally going to SMT IV, but since it took place in Antartica mainly they decided to call it a spin-off.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I'm in YHVH's dungoen right now, how fucking huge is this shit? Spent an hour running through the first brane, thought I was near the end, now there's a second brane.

Lunatick
Lunatick

people complain how short it was in 4
heres your 10 hour long final dungeon

Methshot
Methshot

There are 5 "branes"

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Can someone tell me what the Twisted Tokyo dungeon is about?
Before I started doing the cosmic egg, I tried it but did not defeat David in 10 rounds.
Now that I am in YHVH dungeon, I think I should go back and retry

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Smile Charge
King Bufula
does 100+ damage to the whole party despite a DEF buff and no Ice weakness
auto crit so he gets another turn
even my Ice resist guy goes down to the focused spamming

What the fuck. War is kind of feeling like bullshit right now.

FastChef
FastChef

The add-on content could not be recognized
Why
It's USA and the .cia is USA as well

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I pretty much won on first try by casting Sukukajas and having one Ice resist demon.
If you have fire attacks, the extra turns and extra buffs make a huge difference.
Cutting his actions and then getting the Partner Assist meant he had little chance.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Meanwhile I'm using the undub and having no probems with DLC

Soft_member
Soft_member

I guess I'm underleveled, because I can't even get him down to red life before he completly wrecks my shit with King Bufula.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I have the undub, I tried that first and it also didn't work, I assumed because undub was region-free.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

It's where you fight the Fiends. You can re-enter the dungeon after getting kicked out after 10 rounds and the boss will have the same amount of health they had when they kicked you out at the end of the 10th round.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Do you get anything good from finish the dungeon?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

How do I fuse Tzitzimitl in Apocalypse? Trying to gather that last ingredient for fusing Inanna

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

DLC is uploaded
Welp time to switch to war. The compendium prices were a bitch-ass to deal with.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Not that I remember. Beating each fiend lets you fuse that fiend to use in your party, each fiend also has a chance to drop equipment/items only they can drop.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I was wondering why the compendium was at 92% when I have done literally everything just before YHVH.
Time to get cracking, I guess

viagrandad
viagrandad

Is /smtg/ safe now that Persona 5 is available in Japanese? I don't care about spoilers when it comes to SMT4 Apocalypse because I already know a bunch of things about the story, because I thought at the time that it would never be released in Europe. But I want to avoid P5 spoilers as much as I can even though I don't have a PS3 or a PS4 yet. Maybe they could release a portable version on the PSVita, idk. It feels weird avoiding /smtg/ like that for days, I miss you guys, especially now that I'm trying to finish Persona Q and DDS2.

How's the localisation for Apocalypse by the way? Who voices who again?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

EU WHEN

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

literally asking to be spoiled, the post

I'll let you know the gas attendant is the killer

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

P5 will get 7/10 because of this.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Goro was Nyarly all along and he's the final boss.
That looks beautiful.

girlDog
girlDog

Thanks for the HD assets for SMT V, personafags

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

What level do I gotta be to do Messiahs in the Diamond Realm?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

P5's style looks so good

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

99+ it looks like.

Lunatick
Lunatick

what elemental resists am i gonna wanna take with me to fight off shesha

Emberburn
Emberburn

Liar, everyone knows Nanako is the killer.

Honestly, it seemed so obvious in the trailers and all the ads that I don't even know if I should believe you or not. If that's true that's disappointing.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I'm just fucking with you, I don't know anything about the game's plot yet, not a whole lot of spoilers on this general. IV Final releasing helps too.

JunkTop
JunkTop

that UI looks so fucking bad

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

POST RARE JACKS

Methnerd
Methnerd

fire

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Nul Phys

RavySnake
RavySnake

That's good then. I'm still waiting for SMT4 Apocalypse in Europe but I'll be busy very soon, I'll get my copy for Christmas.

likme
likme

MY GAME IS STILL NOT HERE WHAT THE FUCK

Snarelure
Snarelure

Same user. Everyone's playing the game and I'm just staring outside my window waiting for my order

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Asahi getting jealous and rambling on about how much better she is after Toki joins
It's okay, you're still the best to me Asahi.

cum2soon
cum2soon

i've had it since last tuesday :^)

Flameblow
Flameblow

Neither will be as cute as Flynn though

Playboyize
Playboyize

Played it yesterday, UI really is a clusterfuck.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Where do I get a Demonica from in Apocalypse?

Inmate
Inmate

Ginza richfags shop.

RumChicken
RumChicken

If you think War misses were annoying, wait until you try Apocalypse
Level 35~ demons and still missing a fuckton like 1/5 of the hits
Truly the Missapocalyse

DeathDog
DeathDog

I agree. They went overboard with the styling. It just looks like shit this way.

5mileys
5mileys

PS3 version actually is running in 60 fps
Feels good mang.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Apocalypse
Have people found any differences between that and War/Conflict? At least you get more experience, right?

RavySnake
RavySnake

I'm literally being raped by a video game - Kotaku
This goes to show how much women are oppressed by the patriarchal society in Japan - Polygon
This game made me feel uncomfortable - Gamespot
dude penis lmao - ironic meme crowd

I can see the future. Mara was in P3 FES and many other SMT games, but the mainstream retards only hopped on the bandwagon after P4.

eGremlin
eGremlin

asahi keeps sending me emails

for what purpose? it's not like we're travelling together and she can't just talk to me

Playboyize
Playboyize

Wasn't he in his jelly form in P3 tho?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Oh shit that Diamond Realm boss is a bitch.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

It feels like the P5 demon models are literally just shiny PS2 ones, many of which were already copy pasted from NINE

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Gen Z will text each other even when standing in the same room. Especially in Japan where everyone is more shy and even more glued to their phones.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Guys please help this is hardest part of the game....
What name should I pick for Asahi

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I want to FUCK that Pixie.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

War is basically more damage taken, less damage inflicted, 3x compendium prices, an annoying accuracy penalty
Apocalypse is even more damage taken, less damage inflicted, extremely annoying accuracy penalty, normal compendium prices but 3x-4x store prices instead, 0% escape chance

StonedTime
StonedTime

Dog.

FastChef
FastChef

They're clearly remodelled. Still PS2-tier though.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

She rejects all of your suggestions so it doesn't matter.

Valkyrie was top tier anyways.

likme
likme

otr plz stop fight

MPmaster
MPmaster

Pixie is for cute, not lewd. Besides, she's too small.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

goddamn millenials and their cellular telephones
YOU KIDS AND YOUR SPACEBOOKS AND YOUR MYPLACES

idontknow
idontknow

Besides, she's too small.
Don't worry, your micropenis will fit fine.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

cia with literally ALL Apocalypse DLC already available
Hacking my 3DS has never been so worth it
I pity devil summoners that will have to wait more than a fucking month to get content locked inside the game

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Thanks me dudes. That was faster than I thought it would be. What do the dlc entails.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Lewd and cute go hand in hand.

Also, all types of fairies are stretchy.

tags: large_insertions, minigirl, stomach_bulge, ahegao

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Hey /smtg/ I've been gone since SMT Final's reveal to avoid spoilers. What have I missed? Any good shit storms? What have you been playing since that time? I missed all of you

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Asahi just died :(

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I got sad when it happened ;_;

WebTool
WebTool

What a horrible time to not have an sd adapter. Thanks user, will install when I get home. Finally I can get the shit I want to on this route before doing NG+. I got to the bottom of Twisted Tokyo but that gray man said I couldn't see the depths without "Eternity"

Bidwell
Bidwell

Rev up those Heavy Grimoires

SniperWish
SniperWish

Dagda 2.0 saved her, who fucking cares. This fucking new director and writer are such a hacks, I want to apologize to Yamai now. Literally raped IV's rich lore with powers of friendship, Peace route is a joke.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

A bunch of challenge quests to let you get macca, app points, grimoires to level up, incenses. A quest where you team up with the protags of the previous mainline SMT games, the level cap is increased to 999, you can reach the final boss of the Fiend dungeon, a promo video, and all the Retail exclusive pre-order DLC.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

iv's rich lore

yeah all those plot holes were so good i love it mmmmm

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

only bad things can happen or it's not SMT!

Also, it's not just bonds/"power of friendship" between random highschool students, they're all accomplished fighters at that point. Especially Flynn who was already at IV endgame status from the start of Apocalypse.

Emberfire
Emberfire

(You)

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Pretty nift, how is the quest where you team up with other SMT protags?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Faintest hint of sadness at the farming DLCs not having exclusive special fusions, like in SMT4

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Is there some super hard postgame boss or DLC boss that justifies grinding and the increased level cap? Right now it seems like even Apocalypse difficulty doesn't need that shit.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Its not about "bad things" whatever that means, its about Final's lacking in setting enrichment. Every fucking NPC now is useless Flynn-sucking twat that repeat every other NPCs only line of the same monologue, and your useless partners exist only to stroke your huge weeb ego. Only two side-quests lines are actually doing good job in plot department.

massdebater
massdebater

they have all these beautiful models for demons in HD now
they're still going to put SMTV on a handheld again
It's not fair...

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

It's a fun little piece of fanservice being able to fight with the past protags. You end up fighting Stephen who is level 128, he has two forms: the first is him just sitting, the second is him standing and him actually taking the fight somewhat seriously.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Every fucking NPC now is useless Flynn-sucking twat

Man I wonder why when Apocalypse takes place in the middle of the Neutral Route of SMT4 and the entire time you were trying to get Tokyo to suck your dick

Methnerd
Methnerd

Sounds fun already, can't wait to try it.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Should you feel bad for using the grind dlc

askme
askme

Apps? Fuck no. Money? Maybe, but waiting for relic spots to respawn sucks

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

No. Especially not when level cap unlock is a thing. Tell me that Japanese player with 300-800 levels didn't use it.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Persona 5 launched in Japan last week on September 15, 2016, and sales tracker Media Create indicates that 337,767 copies of the game were sold during its first week

Its over, we lost bros.

Techpill
Techpill

There's also Cleopatra and Mephisto which are decent

FastChef
FastChef

Knew I forgot something

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Okay. Now that I got a chance to start playing the game, here are some thoughts.

- there's way too much flynn dicksucking. I get that he's the savior of tokyo, but literally every single npc doesn't have to be talking about exclusively him. I get that the ring of gaea is hypocritical, but even they are licking his balls. Also, why is isabeau more or less never mentioned? She is implied to be always with him during endgame. Just because flynn is the new big thing to talk about doesn't mean that literally everyone is never talking about anything else. This just comes off like bad one dimensional writing that wants to cringeworthily pull a new plot out of the middle of an old one.

- They aren't even trying to be nonbiased anymore. They more or less are just straight up assuming that angels, demons, gods are all the bad side, and are for the most part balls to the wall retarded. I honestly don't mind a megaten story beginning with this assumption. The problem is that that's not at all an accurate description of the plot of IV. The idea of an angel and demon truce at the seal of krishna since they both want him sealed is interesting, but it would have worked better if the game didn't begin by assuming both were more or less pure evil. An "obviously correct side" with "obviously bad villains" against them is what megaten should be moving more away from, not more towards. The fact that you get massacre points for being all around evil plus just a lazy asshole doesn't help.

-the fact that everyone else is pure evil just makes the fact that the fairies are implied to be mostly good stand out even more.

-dagda's color scheme in game is way too light. I don't think they accurately made him the right color his art implied. However, I didn't know that they tried to make you think he was with the divine powers at first. That part is actually a kind of interesting twist, along with the ambiguity.

Techpill
Techpill

atlus senpai please help me i'm a dirty casual shitter

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

The demons in the are so inexpensive holy shit.

It's seriously 1/4 the price of the compendium and I'm playing on Conflict with the 50% off compendium DLC.

Methshot
Methshot

Also, why is isabeau more or less never mentioned?
Yeah that bothered me the most when the group tries to sneak back into Mikado. They're like "Flynn can't go with you because he'd be recognized immediately" but Isabeau's able to go with you and guide you everywhere in Mikado without a single person questioning it. Like, what?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Also a DLC that lets you buy pre trained demons and one to fight Mephisto plus one to fight Cleopatra

Lunatick
Lunatick

nobody cares about the stupid monkey

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

He doesn't know

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

How does that even make sense? Flynn being the savior of tokyo doesn't translate to him being more well known in mikado. In mikado he's a random peasaant from the outskirts. Isabeau is from a rich family.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Because in Mikado the angels have convinced everyone that he's a traitor.
You'd think the angels also would've mentioned the girl that's been following him all this time too, but I guess not,

Lunatick
Lunatick

Kek. Even the angels know she's irrelevant.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

It's a good way to get fusion bait

5mileys
5mileys

You can buy an Orochi in the demon shop DLC

Emberburn
Emberburn

Plot is a joke honestly. Both massacre and bonds are cringeworthy.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

miss
miss
miss
Apocalypse was a mistake

takes2long
takes2long

You need to fuse Herald and Isis, or Herald and Siegfried

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Fairies are such memelords

Soft_member
Soft_member

Why did they need to make the game super biased though? If the entire war was a trick orchestrated by yhvh, then there's good reason to shift your paradigm and escape it even if the sides were semi plausible. IVA is just making it look like the sides are actively trying to present themselves as evil versus evil. If the people don't even tenuously think there's a good outcome happening, why bother tricking them? I'm at the point where you meet maitreya, and I haven't met a single character yet who supports the angels or lucifer or even the polytheistic alliance. Unless you count the fact that some of gaia is still around. Even half of them are dick sucking flynn though. And if the themes weren't obvious enough, dagda has to beat you over the head with them, by explaining that all gods think they are superior to humans and want to control them.

Maybe those aspects get better later. But I doubt it. I suppose that if some gods are still around in the bonds ending then part of it has to at least somewhat imply that the point is not that gods are inherently evil, but just that yhvh was radicalizing everyone, as were a few polytheistic gods.

Emberburn
Emberburn

All of Nozomi's dialogue is "Hey, don't worry guys! I'm queen of the fairies!"

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Nozomi is a supportive friend with cool glasses fuck you bitch

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

And all of her art is that retarded clusterfuck.

idontknow
idontknow

She did a terrible job of protecting the Forest as Queen of the Fairies. Even Inanna wanted to come back and manage the forest because Danu was useless.

hairygrape
hairygrape

they wanted to subvert smt themes instead of rehashing genocide v genocide again but the writers are shit and we got genocide v persona
and it's got fuck all to do with trauma chasing like some of the apologists claim, any plot that kills people for an emotional pull just to revive them an hour later is trash
dagda was a mistake

iluvmen
iluvmen

I'm EU,
you don't know my pain.

idontknow
idontknow

Why does everyone hate her

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Dagda is shitty even in the plot. The game mechanic of you having unlimited chances to win is part of the actual game's content. That just takes the tension out. Sure, obviously we're meant to interpret this as having limits, since if it happened against a powerful god, they'd realize dagda was doing it and try to kill him too. But its still pretty nonsensical.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Hallelujah torn between staying with everyone or going back to the Ashura-kai
but still immediately decides to stay after you tell him to
I think he might want to suck my dick more than Asahi at this point.

Soft_member
Soft_member

10 app points per level
All apps have a cost that is divisible by 5
You can recover unused AP from corpses
Where the fuck do the 1-4 app points come from?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Partners based on personality
Hallelujah>Navarre>Gaston>Toki>Nozomi>Asahi>Isabeau

Based on actual battle skills
Toki>Nozomi>Hallelujah>Gaston>Navarre>Isabeau>>>>>Asahi

Flynn should've been a partner and not an endgame mechanic.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

MP RECOVER OR ??

Emberburn
Emberburn

The corpses. I've never gotten ore than 4 ap per corpse

Firespawn
Firespawn

Navarre below Gaston
Navarre below Hallelujah
Navarre below Nozomi
literally what

DeathDog
DeathDog

There is no limit to what Dadga can and cannot do. As I said in another thread, he knows far more than he on and intentionally chooses to be complacent until the end. Everyone in this game is his pawn, including the Divine Powers.

TechHater
TechHater

Gaston is the best thing about this game

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Implying Navarre didn't save my ass at every boss fight with all his buffs + doping + dekunda.
He even gets debilitate.
Toki is actually the best for random encounters though.

girlDog
girlDog

intermediate slot expansions cost 6+

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

It had to originate from somewhere though. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT ATLUS PLEASE THIS IS BREAKING MY IMMERSION

w8t4u
w8t4u

How exactly does choosing your megami at the end of the game work? What does it do?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Oh, yeah, I was just filling them out right now, and noticed it. Huh, guess that explains that

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

best difficulty to play on? i don't want easy as shit smt iv normal but i don't want absurd compendium costs

do the costs go up on hard?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Because he got BTFO in the very last stretch of his game.

DeathDog
DeathDog

you mean choosing your party member from Dagda at the endgame? Nothing really, you just get that partner to come back and help for the final dungeon.

You also get Flynn as a mechanic to use in battles when you get smirk.

Playboyize
Playboyize

are there vids of the protags dlc in english?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Saki Mitama - macca items
Nigi Mitama - App Point items. Can be easily wiped out with multi-target hama skills
Kusi Mitama - HP/MP incense
Ara Mitama - EXP items

Inmate
Inmate

based Atlus sent Christ Centered Gamer a copy of SMTIV Apocalypse:
christcenteredgamer.com/index.php/reviews/handhelds/3ds/6272-shin-megami-tensei-iv-apocalypse-3ds

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I'm also wondering what they named Hero in english. I wiped before I got to him because I'm not a high enough level to finish the DLC.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Entropy.
That said in IV you didn't end up with 0/5 and always had some remainder after plot apps that went for 1

Supergrass
Supergrass

29%

I thought it would be close to 10%

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Do Saki Mitamas take more damage from anything? Nigis die to hama/mudo, Kusis die to gun skills, and Aras die to ice, but Sakis don't seem to take more than the usual fuckall from anything, makes them kind of hard to farm because macca is all I'm caring about for the DLCs so I can fuse everything.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Leave pascal alone, her healing skills were very useful

w8t4u
w8t4u

Saki is the yellow one right? Almighty seems to work on them.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Gameplay score
Subjective score

Better than all the other review sites. They actually identify their own bias and attempt to detach themselves from it.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Can I kick a partner? Why is Navarre following me

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Honestly I don't get why people get mad at opinionated reviews because that's all a review is, an opinion piece.

Illusionz
Illusionz

bobo last

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Most reviewers are obnoxious and self centered. Many of them don't know how to code or make a game, yet act like experts in the gaming industry.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Why do they actually say Nanashi's name in cutscenes, can you just not name him?

5mileys
5mileys

Did they nerf magic?

w8t4u
w8t4u

They're honestly better than mainstream review sites

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

They don't present themselves as journalists, or changers of the status quo like others.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

magic is always inferior

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

You can name him, but asahi and her dad both call you nanashi. Everyone else calls you by your new name. Not voiced, obviously.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Waffle House employee just walked up with my food and saw this thread open with a big-ass picture of YHVH

What do

massdebater
massdebater

Can confirm this. Just rekt a Saki Mitama with energy drain, and megidolaon

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

50% off compendium DLC

why is there dlc for that?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Might be safest to just rip out his heart, and devour it before he can tell anybody else

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I meant app, guess I have DLC on the brain.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Hi, have you heard of our lord & savior, YHVH

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I'm going to 100% IV while I wait.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Eur or jap 3ds? Use lumalocaleswitcher

Methnerd
Methnerd

but is it better or worse than in smt iv?

Evilember
Evilember

DLC list where

SniperWish
SniperWish

We're talking about a black woman in Georgia who works at Waffle House

She's definitely heard of YHVH

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

That was me

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

will I stop missing on Apocalypse if I pump lots of agi

Spamalot
Spamalot

flynn sacrifices himself because of one hostage he barely knows.

If it was this easy, how did no one try it before? This is what neutral brings you. Atlus actually considers this the reasonable way to act that if you failed to, you must want to commit genocide.

SniperGod
SniperGod

How are people transferring unique demon skills

WebTool
WebTool

what
how

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Thanks for the spoilers

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Why does everyone say YHVH name weird in the game yet in Devil Survivor it sounds fine?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I feel bad to use it but im kind of tempted. Im worried itll take the fun out of fusing but damn theyre cheap

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Devil survivor is another universe. and the yhvh in devil survivor is much less of an asshole.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Can they be fused?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Compare it to the memetic review at
gamingtrend.com/reviews/its-not-the-end-of-the-world-shin-megami-tensei-iv-apocalypse-review/

96 for game and 29 for being in line with subjective criteria gives a better and fairer estimate than flat 70.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

are the demons pretty much copy pasted from previous game?

same skills levels etc?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

If yhvh is the creator should t the universe explode if he dies

Bidwell
Bidwell

so it's not ATLUS censoring the word or whatever?

Methnerd
Methnerd

IVA's plot is nice, but I feel like it doesn't work with how asshole it makes law and chaos look. What's even the point of yhvh tricking everyone, if there's not even a side that presents itself as actually good to anyone involved? A problem of evil plot where the angels and demons were both countering eachother and allegedly well intentioned is one thing. But the problem is that IVAs plot assumes from the beginning that you just see them both as evil.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

nyet

Lunatick
Lunatick

start to warm up to the game
3DS ran out of battery

Every single day

5mileys
5mileys

I want to revive and kill pascal.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

They're not worried about being blown up. What it is is that in judaism you're not allowed to say it out loud. Which led to the reality that in modern day no one even knows how its pronounced anymore. Its the unpronouncable word, which led some people to think of the word in a mystical way that defies pronunciation rather than merely no one knowing since saying it wasn't allowed. So this idea of it being mystically unpronouncable was worked into the plot. In a way where it comes off surreal, since we're not sure what the characters actually hear when this is happening.

user, the battery recharges if you plug it in.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

From what I understand, the universe existed before YHVH, but he reshaped it to his liking, and put himself in charge. There are lots of other creator gods that could take the helm

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

This is what I figured the noises were for, thanks for explaining

5mileys
5mileys

No. Because he's just the strongest god. He's not inherently special. He is in a seat of power that binds him to the great will. But things exist independently of him, and if he dies the seat and his actions are still there. He's not holding them in existence. Other than satan for some reason that has never really been explained. Even in earlier games, gabriel survives yhvh dying but not satan? Why is only satan bound to him? Or in II did satan kill himself?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

putting Toki and Asahi that low
literally the best human females in any SMT

What's it like being a flaming homosexual?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Asahi is shit

farquit
farquit

It was like that in the JP version too.

Inmate
Inmate

waifubait is best

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Better than fujobait.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Delete yourself, son of man

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

don't Gabriel die as well? you just leave the dungeon before she turns into dust

massdebater
massdebater

Shut up Flynn you have someone's fuckboy to be

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

So how do you know if you're going to get a penalty on ending choice? lose all items or demons

is it possible to be in the middle and be safe to choose either?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Bar guy just have me the choice between Headhunter sword and some gun, then between a magic or phys bracelet.
Is this some dlc stuff?

Nojokur
Nojokur

YHVH fight is literally DLC-tier asspull that has almost nothing to do with original story
T-thanks D-team!

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

So is Desperate Hit actually useful? SMT4A, Dex build

StonedTime
StonedTime

Krishna: by the way guys, edgeboy 666 here and his dog released me from the ark

Nozomi: Oh don't worry Nanashi it's just Dagda's fault! But I'll report this to the rest of the hunters

C'mon Nanashi you need to act like an adult and accept your fault. This is for your own good.

Wtf why did they try to kill you? I feel terrible now Nanashi what a bunch of assholes :(

Why is this bitch so retarded?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

So how do YOU say YHVH?

Used to just call it Yehowah sicne that's what Devil Survivor called it, but since it's now supposed to be unpronounceable just reading the letters makes it feel cooler.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Desperate Hit scales off STR. If you're a DEX build, don't bother.

WORLD OF MUSCLE gets crazy single target damage and almighty options.
WORLD OF GUNS gets great AoE damage and some elemental options.

World of harry potter fuccboi gets an easy early game but shit for scaling and lots of regret once elemental weaknesses become less common.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Finally beat Vishnu
expected some cool transition towards final dungeon like in DDS2 with your comrades dying horribly and reincarnating in expanse or some shit
'Hey guys its Stephen every alignment representative is dead, please kill YHVH for me now, lmao!! Reason? No particular reason, just kill him, lol!'

Fucking bullshit.

Flameblow
Flameblow

World of magic fuccboi got even stronger lategame with Megidolaon + Mindcharge killing every single encounter in one round in SMT4. Did they change that?

I seriously regret dex compared to what I used to have

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Desperate Hit scales off STR
What? Why

How do I get through bosses with Dex build on latter stage then

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

She isn't retarded, it's just that Nozomi can't persuade the hunters to overlook the fact that Nanashi and Asahi were the ones who unsealed Krishna. Sure she could keep quiet, but eventually they would've figured it out.

King_Martha
King_Martha

wake up to all the dlc being unlocked

I fucking knew it, why does Atlus handle their DLC in such retarded ways?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Also
great AOE

Why does Heaven's bow feel like such shit then?

RavySnake
RavySnake

That Izanami sidequest

Good shit

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

World of Magic is pretty much Debilitate/Luster Candy/Energy drain/Healing and concentrate for the occasional smirking you will get where you hit with an Almighty Attack.
It works quite well.

Skullbone
Skullbone

It will actually slightly increase your load times if you install that pack with everything
Like accessing the menu takes 1 sec longer and shit

SniperWish
SniperWish

You still have decent encounter clearing with Megidolaon, but your boss killing power is way lower than physical builds.

Basically, STR and DEX got great lategame skills and improved scaling (but STR is only phys and DEX is only guns), MAG stayed the same, bosses got harder.

Techpill
Techpill

Oh yeah it does, I blame the game rather than the cia file though.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

The whole point of this game is the pre-existing struggle of Lucifer against YHVH, divine powers also attempting to save everyone from his rule and Dagda's revenge against him.
How is it weird that you get to deal with him when everyone else is out of the picture?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Why does Heaven's bow feel like such shit then?

Because the game is harder. Especially if you're playing on War. You wouldn't be one shotting those mobs with Magic either.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Megidolaon doesn't do jack against Azrael despite the fact that Hallelujah used it to kill an angel horde before. True bufudyne does more than Almight

Skullbone
Skullbone

What will an endgame dex build look like? Because if I only have riot gun any nullgun would fuck me up. Is there Pierce?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Elemental bullet dude

Lunatick
Lunatick

Elemental shots. Like I said before, Guns get around Gun Null/Reflect by using elements, Phys uses Almighty.

I haven't come across a way to pierce yet.

Supergrass
Supergrass

New Mudoon or Mamudo?

Playboyize
Playboyize

tfw had to change the difficulty to paradise to beat the Messiah in Diamond Realms DLC

Fuck this shit. All I wanted to do was see Demi-Fiend again, not fight some disabled cryptic guy who's 30 god damn levels above me.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Mudoon.

Is it just me or Muddon/Hamaon scale with mag. I feel it does quite as much damage as a Dyne.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

What happens.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Does Demi Fiend have Riot Gun, or Freikugel listed?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

It does and the damage seems actually higher than the elemental spells
Hama/Mudo, Hama especially is fucking great now

Firespawn
Firespawn

Why do the demons have Agi +X or Bufu -X. Is it just a better way to show that they're better in skills or something.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

You help an NPC kill ghosts and his possessed wife. Izanami ends up taking over his dead wifes body so you and the NPC go into the underworld, and kick the shit out of her, and the NPC deals the final blow. Really good.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Affinity means less mp cost and higher damage
And the mp cost is especially noticeable on high mp spells
Like how Tetrakarn can go to 20s instead of 50s

Supergrass
Supergrass

Stephen doesn't give a fuck about gods and demons. He's truly neutral in the sense that he transcends morality. It's only fitting for him to be the one being who's strong enough to be the superboss boss in a game where YHVH is the final boss.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I have yet to find any boss that nulls gun. I'd go with my old SMT IV spread of
Riot Gun
Heaven's Bow
Desperate Hit (if it exists)
Salvation
Debilitate/Luster Candy
Stuff that I feel like using

Keep elemental bullets when you reach something big that resists guns and exploit their weakness.

I just beated Shesha and they gifted me some insane looking Bazooka that hits 2-6 times and raises HP. Holy Fuck.

girlDog
girlDog

This is the main team.

An entire game where everyone wants to kill YHVH
Not killing him
Fucking retarded.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

but eventually they would've figured it out.

How? There's no proof Nanashi released Krishna and no one seems to care until Krishna says it.

Methnerd
Methnerd

The voice of reason got ignored, what a surprise.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

My Little Dagda Can't Be This Cute!

SniperGod
SniperGod

She should have just kept quiet and let me fix everything instead of fucking ratting me out.

What if Fujiwara and Skins weren't so forgiving? I could have been executed for fucking treason all because she couldn't stay quiet.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

No she's alive on SMTII Law.

Satan died because turning on YHVH was an unforgivable sin as a Law angel.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Stephen also ass pulls you into Eden in SMT2.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

"You're going to be executed Nanashi!? Well you just have to live up to your responsibilities as an adult. As Queen of the Fairies, I know a lot about responsibilities".

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

No she's alive on SMTII Law.
She's alive in SMT 2 Neutral too.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Holy fuck. The demon market is broken as fuck and the prices are pretty low IMO. Having a perfect Shiva has never been this easy,

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

mfw I bought a fucking level 90 something Odin for 30,000 when I was only level 80

happy_sad
happy_sad

Wouldn't Dagda just revive you again

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

It's the cheapest way to max out your skill +s too if the skill is on there.

cum2soon
cum2soon

its free to die in Apocalypse

What?

Nojokur
Nojokur

you do go compulsively back in time, no option to keep good stuff like with Charon, but it's free.

The Game Over screen is a very expensive App

Inmate
Inmate

I wanted to go magic because I was dex in IV but everyone says its shit

help

likme
likme

Plot reasons. Dagda just wants you to keep living and do his bidding.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

It's not like you revive back into the battle or anything. I mean, realistically it just saves you from resetting the game, since that's what 90% of people do when they get shitstomped anyways.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

dex got nerf hard because str is relevant again though

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It's a "Beelzebub has balance stats this time" episode.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

It's still a pain to get hanged or your fucking head cut off or however they execute traitors in shithole Tokyo. People shouldn't be fucking running around telling everyone I'm dead anyway, it's none of their business.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I had to restrain myself looking at the demons there.

Shit's crazy

Inmate
Inmate

None of the builds are bad this time around. Hell, even if you make the worst build possible on Nanashi, you can just throw Luster Candy and Debilitate on him and he still does shit.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Give him a break, he just got popped out of Inanna's vag.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The demon market
???

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Hunters don't care that she's Queen of the Fairies. It's a meaningless title out side of the Forest. Makes sense since every Fairy except Danu is a retard

farquit
farquit

dlc

idontknow
idontknow

DLC, goy

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

This is why Hope is a disease. It turns the mindless masses into drones.

RavySnake
RavySnake

shut up junko

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

hama and mudo are good now

how the fuck do you have any skill slot space as a magic build now, 6 elements?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Wrong general Junko

Bidwell
Bidwell

It's crazy how broken that DLC is

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

How can i tell if the dlc worked?
I installed the CIA but it isnt showing up ingame nor is there a load dlc screen?

Im on the right region (usa) for my game and whatever.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Bufu,Agi, Zio, Hama,
Pretty much nothing is weak to Zan compared to the rest, and Hama kills most things as opposed to Mudo which is mostly for divine and holy types, usually bosses or later enemies

5mileys
5mileys

To be fair, in my experience if something is weak to Hama or Mudo it's usually weak to another element as well

FastChef
FastChef

damn

time to pirate it

Supergrass
Supergrass

You found a good pic of Devil Children Queen Frost.

Spamalot
Spamalot

don't. it will ruin the game.

eGremlin
eGremlin

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Should say that it's loading add-on content when you start the game after installing the DLC.

takes2long
takes2long

hama
usually bosses or later enemies

so wouldnt i want this?

Playboyize
Playboyize

every Fairy except Danu is a retard
except Danu
Not including

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

The only time Danu acts like a retard is when meeting the spirit of her older sister Inanna.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Thanks, it worked when i installed it through BBM

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Also remember Flynn helped Odin regain his memories and yet no one ratts him out or stop sucking his samurai dick

Spamalot
Spamalot

Odin is just a guard for the Divine Powers. Miroku and Krishna are the brains behind the operation.

SniperWish
SniperWish

She literally threatens to kill you if you choose to side with Dagda.
I don't think that's a good idea if you want to get someone to side with you.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Anyone got tips on how to get past the Chaos Realm teleport puzzle? Shit's confusing as fuck, or I'm just dumb

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Considering this is the same demon who'd deny her older sister's resurrection, its not really that surprising.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Freikugel user.

idontknow
idontknow

Is Resist All a thing?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Please tell me this dialogue has voice acting.

SniperGod
SniperGod

So you get my point then.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Yeah, it's a shame cuz Onee-sama Inanna is one of the few not shit demons in the game.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I'm done with this fucking battle.

Level 100
My Demons are all 90s
Spend half an hour fighting Lvl 130 Stephen
no items left, low health, no mana
beat him barely
Second half starts
The other protags form one team, switches back between mine and theirs
they don't give me back my health or mana
on the second turn Stephen kills me
thinking it'll force me to play as the other protags for the rest of the fight
boots me back out to Tokyo making me do the entire quest again

Yeah no. Even for SMT that's bullshit. Well it was fun seeing Aleph and Demi-Fiend again. Not doing that bullshit again.

TreeEater
TreeEater

He was who engineered pooinloo's rescue though. If Flynn didn't help Odin Krishna would still be trapped

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It doesn't, unfortunately. Truly the blunder of the century

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Is Nanashi cute?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

No.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

So it's all Flynn's fault. It's not like Tokyo's going to acknowledge this though.

WebTool
WebTool

Dammit, I wanted to hear that in his serious Irish-accented voice.

Methnerd
Methnerd

What the fuck, everyones finding guns and shit and all i have got is charm bullets, how the fuck do you get this stuff, my game is fucking broken

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Why didn't Nanashi use one of his demons to close the lids in the temples instead of making Toki do it?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Flynnfags don't care. Their devout worship blocked their critical thinking skills and the plot would paint Krishna as evil for revealing that fact.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I want to have gentle, loving sex with that dog in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.

SniperWish
SniperWish

A better question is what's stopping Krishna from popping back in when they leave and re-opening the jars?

DeathDog
DeathDog

That's a reward the Hunter's Association gives you for completing lots of quests, don't worry. If you get a message saying that they wish to see you - or some shit - then check out the nearest bar to get your loot.

askme
askme

No option to make Pascal wear her makeup all the time in NG+

Methshot
Methshot

Is there anything new in NG+

Emberfire
Emberfire

The narrative insists that Toki do it so that Inanna can pop out and attack the party for a mandatory boss fight. Plus, Toki has been trained by the ring of Gaea.

Krishna is too teaching Shesha to act like Flynn to open the jars, and spends the rest of the plot watching the tragic comedy of angels, demons, and hunters fighting over who's the biggest Flynnfag.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Yeah Odins smart too, but he prefers being the muscle since the other two are weaker in story.

And we can't forget Flynn and Isabeau let loose the Archangels after being manipulated by Gabriel too.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Reminder that SMTcucks parrot the opinions of the amazing banana fucker, rasenbran, and Infowars

Flameblow
Flameblow

Hears some people are pissed at Krishna's depiction in Apocalypse
They say nothing about how Brahman is depicted in Digital Devil Saga as a train with faces that wants to kill humanity with the sun.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

infowars
Not filtering your water supply to remove red pills from it

TechHater
TechHater

Krishna looks like a faggot mick
Brahmin looks like a badass chad
Makes me think...

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

She's just into despair caude lol bored.

Think Shinado who wanted to save everyone via Despair. The point still stands too. After all Masakado eating hope fused the two to become the done 25 Years Ago.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Implying
Most SMTcucks here are lawfags. You obviously haven't been here for more than 2 threads.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Fuck off Lawfag this is chaoshole territory

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Final's story wouldn't have worked if Flynn was hated in Tokyo for unsealing the angels. Then again, Mastema doesn't really exists when he's needed

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I'll have you know I'm a boboposter.

likme
likme

If DDS used the Neutral route ones to reincarnate then not for long apparently.

I'm assuming its Chaos where they, Seth, and Satan died cause Satan was friendlier on Neutral like Lucy.

Flameblow
Flameblow

dumb fujoposter

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Not wanting to sexually reeducate the monkey

TechHater
TechHater

All bobo lovers are impure and should commit suicide.

5mileys
5mileys

FILTH

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

fusing Null Phys Nebiros at 31
fusing demon destroying Alice at 34
Why is Fusion Booster so perfect

DeathDog
DeathDog

SULLIES THE WORLD
U
L
L
I
E
S

T
H
E

W
O
R
L
D

viagrandad
viagrandad

Am I the only one who thinks ghost Navarre is funny?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

They're right. The terminal guard WAS better

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

yes

Methshot
Methshot

SMT threads endlessly bitch about how persona is nothing but waifu faggotry
go to /smtg/
nothing but waifufags
Explain yourself, not even gameFAQs are this bad

Snarelure
Snarelure

Pascal is too cute though.

Lunatick
Lunatick

No Mastema in Persona5
They made a model for SJ Ose
No Desu ones either.
Fucking shame

Mastwma went back to his home planet YHVH Space rather than get fucked by each side.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I'm sorry, the dog was too cute

iluvmen
iluvmen

Cause Mara wasn't making the puns.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Atlus upped the waifu game in Apocalypse

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I want to kill this dog.

Lunatick
Lunatick

What did you name your Godslayer?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Does this include the beach DLC?

Soft_member
Soft_member

versus

Who wins /smtg/?

Emberfire
Emberfire

any comfy SMT retrospective or reviewish vids like RasenBran on YT?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Requesting "As she does, something white suddenly bursts out from it" screencap

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Clover mohawk man

Too bad Rasen is a casual with shitter opinions

Methnerd
Methnerd

Dagda's fucktoy.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

It has everything user

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

how?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Double scar boy.

Methshot
Methshot

Hows the English voice acting in Apocalypse?

FastChef
FastChef

Why didn't Charon revive you after Law end in IV?

TechHater
TechHater

I assume that all the DLC is already in the game and you just download the keys for it

idontknow
idontknow

Hugo tells me to go down into Naraku
go down, samurais stop me
forgotten to go take quest
climb back
go down again

>NG+
repeat

Firespawn
Firespawn

DLCs for undub when?

RumChicken
RumChicken

I beat the game yesterday, fuck. What am I gonna miss

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Someone saved my horrible cropped picture
I love you, Anonymous

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

The fuck? user even the fiends have 1 elemental weakness. My Nanashi had the 4 severe, debilitate, salvation, awakened power, and luster candy. Still hits like a truck

likme
likme

full list out already?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Can you beat Odin the first time you fight him? he just raped me with lightning pierce,concentrate and thunder reign

girlDog
girlDog

No, I cropped it myself.
Great minds think alike, I guess.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

did you even try to use the dlc

i played undub iv and normal dlc worked fine

w8t4u
w8t4u

This was just posted in the thread.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

It was the same for me, but Final ones can't be recognised for some reason.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Anyone else noticing slightly longer load times with the DLC installed?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

fuck

takes2long
takes2long

Yeah, it was the same with IV

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

the usual average

likme
likme

Are you fucking retarded
The days of shit late game magic like in Nocturne are long gone, magic remains by far the best and easiest build in Final

hairygrape
hairygrape

But you have less skill slots meanwhile str/dex have tons of spare skill slots and STR has highest damage skill

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Oh, you're correct, my crop just has the nips barely visible

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Making Alice on Final, does she even need another damage skill besides Die for Me and Energy Drain
Energy Drain seems to deal high as fuck damage already, and Die For Me rapes anything not dark immune
Rest of the slots (6) are Rakukaja,Makakaja, Media and Resist Light.
Could ditch one of the buffs for Mazionga or Mabufula

Skullbone
Skullbone

search function
new demons only
search for Megamis of the shin variety
include compendium

StonedTime
StonedTime

Just had to fucking solo Mephisto with my level 87 dex-turned-mag Nanashi. Seems the poor guy cannot into buffs/debuffs

+3 vs his -3
Mahamaon was doing 2000 damage by the end of it, and Energy Drain allowed me to remain at hp/mp cap.
He throws out the occasional debilitate that is promptly remedied by luster candy

Playboyize
Playboyize

What the best build for Nanashi?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Playing Apocalypse. I hit lvl 37 a bit ago. Am I underlevelled? I feel like it since most demons are a bit above it and so I can't recruit them.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

WORLD OF MAG

Bidwell
Bidwell

Literally mag. Anybody attempting to tell you otherwise are just "HURR ME HIT STUFF" phys barbarians.

TechHater
TechHater

LUCK
U
C
K

Firespawn
Firespawn

So just dump everything in mag?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Fused the four herald's elemental skills onto an Angel
Now it's time to get her to level 99 Then do it all over again twice for a pixie and a low level chaos waifu demon

RumChicken
RumChicken

2 mag, 2 agi, 1 luk

hairygrape
hairygrape

And now this bitch will report us to the hunter association. Why is Nozomi such a cunt? she knows those Flynn worshipping neutral drones will come for our head

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Yes and there is no need for agi and lck
the hit/avoid bonus of agi is literally useless, and frankly as far as turn order I prefer to go last so I can support with demon summoning or items if needed

Skullbone
Skullbone

3 points STR
1 point AGI
1 point LUK

Every single level. Your crit rate will slowly rise, your hit rate will stay decent, and your single target damage starts high and gets pantsu on head retarded over time.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Okay I was putting 2 into str and mag and the rest into dex and agi. Should I reset my game to fix my stats? I just started and I'm at lv 13.

w8t4u
w8t4u

You're so low it doesn't even matter. I was in the 80s by the time I switched over to mag, and I'm doing pretty good damage despite this.

Also, incense are pretty common

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

no need for AGI

Conflict casuals need not apply. Try that shit in War, Great War and especially Apocalypse and watch how hard the RNG bends you over and takes 2 of your turns.

Inmate
Inmate

I'm hooked on armor boost kits

I must make my demonica stronger

Inmate
Inmate

Is 999 max HP, or can it go higher?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Max is 7777

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

She can't overlook the fact that you were retarded enough to believe Odin, kill Sukuna Hikona, and unseal Krishna.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Some newbie hunters fuck EVERYTHING up
nah, let's not tell anyone about it

I figure Gaston would've bitched about it and made a scene regardleas

RavySnake
RavySnake

Cleopatra's Light Pierce is nuts.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

So Str or Dex?

I've heard someone mention a "Godslayer Blade", is that some unique and badass Str skill like Gaea's Rage?

JunkTop
JunkTop

last thread
I want to enter the bonezone.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Apocalypse killed /smtg/ with it's waifu pandering.

takes2long
takes2long

Yeah, figured Cleo would be light, since Mephisto seemed to be all about dark pierce. I suppose she uses luster candy instead of debilitate?

Mephisto used Mamudoon, a single target severe dark attack, earthquake, hades blast, debilitate, photon charge (res. light), and an almighty attack called "growing hatred", which I never figured out.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

tfw is been less than 10 hours since getting the exp dlc and the entire game is already trivialized

StonedTime
StonedTime

having cute girls is waifu pandering

So are you a homo, a fujo or one of those "gruff old men only or my masculinity is challanged" types from /v/?

viagrandad
viagrandad

A couple questions:
1)What do you earn in NG+? Wondering if I should sell the items or farm some relics before I finish the game
2)How many floors does Twisted Tokyo have?
I just beat Trumpeteer
3)Can you get Compendium to 100% without DLC?

Bidwell
Bidwell

Don't you know /smtg/ has the highest count of faggots and fujos?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Bobo go home

Skullbone
Skullbone

Twisted Tokyo
What's twisted tokyo even? I'm at Lucifer's palace and haven't heard of it yet. Also fuck those teleporting doors puzzles, fuck them. Any tips for them?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Didn't you know it's all Bobo posting anti-waifus and gay shit?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Can I get compendium discount beyond 10% from level ups or is it locked until NG+?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I for one welcome our new cute girl goddesses

SniperWish
SniperWish

Goes up to 50% in NG. Just gotta level up

RumChicken
RumChicken

Opens up after you finish the reactor.

The teleporting doors are actually easy.
There are only two actual rooms, both times you encounter the puzzle.
1 of the 4 doors hides the boss. Beat the boss, get the seal that opens the barrier at the start of the dungeon

The bosses are
Lucifage and Belial

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Can someone give me a good magic build skill set?

I didn't do magic in the first game so I don't know

Soft_member
Soft_member

I'm level 30 now and an aspiring Wizard putting all my points into magic.
The new Mahama and Mamudo seem insane, as most monsters will be vulnerable to one of them, and if you start the battle smirking... I feel like Alice.
Is this a new strategy in Apocalypse? Seems very effective right now.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Mahama/Mamudo(with the preemptive smirk app, makes random battles piss easy, plus they do a lot of damage)
Energy Drain. Almighty, heals you, lets you spam spells with little worries.
Multi-Debuff spell (Acid/Fog Breath). Makes boss battles easy. Navarre can Handle Buffing until you get Luster candy.
Concentrate at first chance.
1 healing spell for emergencies.

Since concentrate and the multi-buff/debuff spells come late, you can get some of the elemental spells to supplement your team early on

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

what spells do i use on bosses though? if i don't have space for the bufu zio zan agi etc

Supergrass
Supergrass

Generally, unless the boss was weak to Light/Dark, Nanashi can just buff/debuff and use Energy Drain.
You should only attack if you can trigger a weakness (with light/dark or gun) or when you smirk. High cost skills like Megidola or unique attacks like Floral Gust or Glacial Blast are not an issue since you can get your MP back fast.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

M

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

What the fuck?
DLC I assume?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Nanashi bringing the bants

Methshot
Methshot

dang accidentally posted without a message
I was going to say Cleo's Innate skills are good enough that she only needs the Light Pleromas

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Are Fusion Boosters cumulative (i.e. Boosters 1&2 allows you to fuse demons 3 levels above your current)? And shit, World of STR is harder than I thought. Any skills I should be wary of? Currently in the Fairy Forest with Gram Slice, Needle Shot, Bufu, Zan, and Dia

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

How does time work above tokyo? if you were to live in mikado for a year would 100 years pass by in tokyo?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Nothing wrong with cute girls, but the fact that two of them pretty much cannot get off your dick is what seals the deal.

Monkey is shit.

TreeEater
TreeEater

I just got into the Chaos Realm from Camp Ichigaya and fought a boss and now there's a beam of light taking me back to Camp Ichigaya.

What the fuck am i doing now

Soft_member
Soft_member

Alluring Banter
SPH?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

There are two ways to the chaos realm.
Symmetrical Eleveators leading you to different parts below.
So take the beam back to the start, and go to the other elevator.
When you beat the boss there, you can break the barrier at the very start

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

There are two of those little rooms you must complete before you can get rid of the fire barrier. Man, Masakado just ate that thing originally, didn't he?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

What is Odin referring ro when he says he and Dagda were once the same god?

I'm familiar enough with Norse myths, but not so much with Celtic myths or history.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Monkey is shit.
That was the entire point of my post.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Wait, how do you have the Cleo DLC? Did all the DLC leak?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Essentially being the All-Father of a pantheon and god of Wisdom.

happy_sad
happy_sad

For pirate anons, yes it leaked

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

of course

pirates win again

imagine being from EU waiting months for release instead of pirating it,.. damn....

Bidwell
Bidwell

The DLC.cia even comes with the pre-order bonuses

Methshot
Methshot

why does it say all dlc is expired? was i too late to download them ? :(

Flameblow
Flameblow

Flynn restores Odin's memories and releases three of the four cardinal archangels
no one gives him shit
Nanashi releases Krishna
WOW THIS IS NOT OKAY YOU'RE A FUCKING TRAITOR

Massacre time.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

mmm I don't really want my MC to be buff bot when it's going to have highest mag stat, thanks for input though

JunkTop
JunkTop

ONE

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Got any rare hoys?

Methnerd
Methnerd

NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

It takes a long while to get Luster Candy and Debilitate. Till then, you choose Fog or Acide breath and let Navarre/Demons buff.
You can focus on one elemental spell at least until lategame

DeathDog
DeathDog

i only see one elevator

Emberfire
Emberfire

May not be an elevator, but there are definitely more paths on the floor you start at.
Just check carefully

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Do the black/purpleish roses scattered everywhere do anything? Are they just decoration..?

DeathDog
DeathDog

All this time, Isabeau was the self-insert. What kind of BL would she read? The cute ones or the lewd ones?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Isabeau was the self-insert.

Methnerd
Methnerd

She likes bara.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

SMTIV:A is only my second SMT, and my experience beforehand was a little bit of Strange Journey.

What are some basic things I need to keep in mind while fusing? Do you have a designated healer? Or do you just give dia to whoever?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

So where is the black market now? and also where is the dungeon with the fiends?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Good taste, as usual.

girlDog
girlDog

I want to bully Asahi then hug her when she start crying.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Trying to breed with pretty Paravati because I intend to get 3 x chakra walk as fast as I can and my demons are so crappy.
Haven't saved in hours: FUSION ACCIDENT.
Sun god Inti with Chakra Walk, Maragidon, Fire Pleroma and Media. 6 levels higher than the demons I had.
It's like the ideal target demon three generations down the line. :::))))
Must be all the points I put on luck.

Anyone else got some happy accidents?

MPmaster
MPmaster

what is twisted tokyo? one of the dlc's even adds a new level in there.

JunkTop
JunkTop

sea cucumber in the beach dlc has a happy accident if you know what i'm saying.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

It's a dungeon in the Bay area, I think you have to beat Louie and Mark for it to show up.
Pretty sure it's where you fight the fiends, but I haven't explored it myself.

StonedTime
StonedTime

i've beat those two. will check out the bay area. thanks.

Firespawn
Firespawn

It's a bigass glowing portal, hard to miss.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Fair warning:
You cannot escape random battles in there, and after the first two sets of floors, most demons resist Light/Dark and their instakills.
Also, no relics or chests in there, just high level demons and the bosses

Supergrass
Supergrass

Any new demon husbandos?

girlDog
girlDog

New Design Odin.
Krishna is a fuckboi if you are into that.

WebTool
WebTool

Odin and Mephistopheles

Ongyo-Ki will always be #1 in my heart, though.

RavySnake
RavySnake

tfw can't drag VishnuFlynn around in your party

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

They're not released yet.

siliconera.com/2016/08/03/shin-megami-tensei-iv-apocalypses-dlc-schedule-revealed/

TechHater
TechHater

found it. sounds like a brutal place. can i leave whenever i want like in normal domains or do i have to beat the boss?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Doesn't sound any worse than DDS Demifiend/Satan

takes2long
takes2long

thank you

Booteefool
Booteefool

I'm going full autism but what if Dagda being voiced by Shuichi Ikeda is one big Gundam joke?
In mythology Danu is either Dagda's mother or wife, there isn't accurate version. In CCA Char tells Amuro that Lalah was like a mother to him even though she was clearly his girlfriend in 0079.

Methnerd
Methnerd

homeslice just went bananacakes

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It's like a demon domain with multiple floors.
You have to backtrack to the exit or to a checkpoint.
A checkpoint is created each time you beat a boss.
So if you are on floor 3, you have to backtraj manually. But if you beat the boss and are on floor right after it, you can exit to the world map immediately.

The gap between boss fights gets bigger each time (4 floor gap becomes 6 floor gap, then 8 then 10 etc).

The floor of the boss has a locked door, so you need to search for the chest with the key.

Finally, you have 10 rounds available to beat the boss. If you fail, you will be kicked to the world map, but the damage you did persists and you can return to the latest checkpoint.

The first 6 bosses are David, the Riders and Trumpeteer.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Bump

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

It's similar to what Nozomi said when Inanna and Danu were once the same God.

Inmate
Inmate

I feel like I want to restart with a DEX build, but I'm nervous. What skills do I get?

Isn't having full element coverage harder due to demon affinities now?

Techpill
Techpill

Gods fucking each other even if they are siblings or parent/offspring is more common than you think.
Like Isis-Osiris

King_Martha
King_Martha

dude that's some valuable info. thanks.

Playboyize
Playboyize

what was Sukuna-Hikona weak to I forgot

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Don't fucking do it.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

86k more than SMT IV, not bad.

Now Persona and SMT can coexist, and fatlusfags can live in a new golden era of high-quality games.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'm like, level 10. Is it too late to change my build from MAG to STR or DEX? Seems like everyone is saying those are better.

Illusionz
Illusionz

No prob.
Some extra details:
You cannot recruit the demons roaming there, so no level 70 slime for you.

For boss fights, if you start with a maxed partner gauge, you have time to fill another one before the time limit expires (unless your partner dies of course). Quite valuable to get as much damage as possible.

Also, better have a lot of money since all the bosses are special fusions. Riders need another rider as material and Trumpeteer needs all the riders.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Was I supposed to give a fuck about Manabu?

Nikkari was cool, but Manabu was just a shit. I mean they're both irrelevant, but still.

viagrandad
viagrandad

You can raise every stat to 100 in balanced, then choose to maximize one till you hit 99 and still be perfectly viable for main game in War Difficulty.
Without using incenses to boot.
So yeah, level 10 is not too late.

Snarelure
Snarelure

No.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

"The first 6 bosses are David, the Riders and Trumpeteer."
Matador gets a special place as the second-to-last boss
Kek. Does Trumpeter have Evil Melody and Holy Melody this time around?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

You're getting memed so fucking hard

takes2long
takes2long

My Godslayer

Bidwell
Bidwell

Zio

MPmaster
MPmaster

Needing to buy things
you disappoint me, son of man

askme
askme

Whoops, my bad.
Matador is second.
He is also the weakest with a physical build.
He has a unique attack that does 6-12 hits, and a single buff/debuff will cause at least one to miss, depriving him an action.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

got it

farquit
farquit

Weird, you can't do a basic fusion with Cleopatra but you can fusion-lite with her. Or is this already known for dlc demons?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

STR or DEX?

5mileys
5mileys

yes

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Rest up and let the moon phase go.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Hunters threatening dogo
so massacre it is

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

nvm fixed it ;)

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I am on Apocalypse and AGI barely makes any difference, it's still miss heaven.
Seems mostly level based

Firespawn
Firespawn

Can you change type of bullets in battle?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Which partner is the best for the King Frost fight?

Emberburn
Emberburn

tfw used my real first name as my handle in soul hackers
see that every other teammate didn't
oh fuck me, should I just restart or continue onwards?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Magic Mirror.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

hah dork

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Looks like Dante's dad.

SniperWish
SniperWish

strawpoll.me/11268604/r

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED when attacking a demon in the money farming area
Last save was hours ago, and before I beat Mephisto

WebTool
WebTool

Why does Flynn's character only become good when he becomes your Godslayer?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

are you using the undub?

TechHater
TechHater

are dark and light skills good now?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

DLCs are not working with undub.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

nope
Before I got apps too
I want to die

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

no dagda
Shit poll.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Luck gets perfect accuracy and crits 100% of the time.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Flynn has no tangible personality in the game. Even Shesha in disguise is a better Flynn than the real one.

Snarelure
Snarelure

tfw Dagda will never dominate you

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

+2 DEX / +1 AGI / +2 LUC

?

iluvmen
iluvmen

What is Dagda best girl?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Oh shit I guess my last few hours playing with the undub and dlc are nonexistent then?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

He's best at everything.

massdebater
massdebater

Well Flynn is a tool used by others and is muh humans on Neutral.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Where did you get it then?

FastChef
FastChef

While talking in an Irish accent?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Of course. That's the best part.

Methshot
Methshot

On Dagda and Odin being the same it's common to conflate Norse and Celt myths together. Dullahans being Valkyries for one

Methnerd
Methnerd

no Neutral option to screw over Dagda AND the power of bonds
Screw em both. Nanashi is a solo god. All he needs is himself. and Flynn

Supergrass
Supergrass

play in the role of a hardcore hacker
put your irl name as your hax0r handle

You fucked up, I bet you also download random exe files from your emails.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

But Dagda dies in massacre

SniperGod
SniperGod

I got it from a link somewhere in Veeky Forums so hell if I know where that came from. It was passworded though. 3ds is US region if that makes a difference.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Flynn user?

TechHater
TechHater

Can you by any means mega this shit?

askme
askme

Does this also apply to Inanna and Danu being the same god?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Can you ever fuse Dagda
And does he have his voice in battle
I like him too much to keep going without ever getting him in my party

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

yes?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

So is it true that Apocalypse has very little additions to lore other than explanations about some things that existed in SMT4?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

tfw i did the same thing in smt iva
mostly because i cant settle on a cool hax0r/hunter name

Booteefool
Booteefool

That one is probably just Megaten being Megaten.

Like that time Kaneko said Kagutsuchi is Japanese YHVH.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I found it instead, I know it's the same one because the folder name is the same.
mega.nz/#!hZUSEZZb!5hx_CAm0Gixt6UvQetOFPgmyZgKRDTDC_FgTAzw5fDI
Password: NikolaMiljevic

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

If it helps any, his handle was "Cage" in one of the novels.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

What's the earliest demon with media? I'm around kanda no yashiro

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I like new Satan's design. Any chance they'll use it again going forward?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Messiah Realm DLC
Gather up the heroes into one room
about to leave
Flynn "I hope you survive my good comrade."
Aleph "I pray for your survival my friend."
Demi-Fiend "...Why are you still here? Hurry up and don't make me wait."

Why is Demi-Fiend such an asshole in the DLC? cause it's perfect

Booteefool
Booteefool

Does this mean that Inanna was tried to become one with Danu when she got revived?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Probably not since Persona 5 has a new hd model for the old design

DeathDog
DeathDog

He's Chaos.

Bidwell
Bidwell

I was talking about DLCs.

TechHater
TechHater

TDE Demi-Fiend is kind of a dick, but then again he has to be to have gone TDE.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

He went full TDE madman but died to the real Lucifer

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

No as in Sumerian and Celts are now related for some reason.

Was it true about the bad ends for each Protag? Which is Flynn.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

That's a shame. I'll hold out hope for SMT V.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

That's the last time I read Nozomi's inbox for explanations. Her email about Danu and Inanna left me confused.

askme
askme

This will probably be the 4th or 5th time that I will start playing SMT II but this time I will finish for real but I have a question.

I know that at some point of the game I need to have 10 point in Magic, but when exactly? I mean, at which level? Should I use Incenses or waste my precious level up points?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I'm about to go seal the jars, how far away am I from deciding which route I want to be on?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

So what are Hero and Aleph?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Yep. They all died to bad endings
SMT1 Hero: Died to the ICBM's hitting Tokyo
Aleph: I'm sorry, I can't really remember his. I think it involved just dying inside a tower? Been awhile since I played SMT2.
Demi-Fiend: Died to Lucifer in TDE
Flynn: Died to King Abbadon while filling the Chalice of Hope

Lunatick
Lunatick

state of most of these armors and their looks

Fucking gayer than the set this image came from.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Oh I just got those from 3dsiso.
I'm not even sure there's more than one upload for the DLC.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Not the first time SMT connected Gods with no connections.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Aleph died to the Megiddo Arc/Satan I think.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

True Demon Demi-Fiend going back to prove himself and beat Lucy?

King_Martha
King_Martha

How do you installed it? BlueMenu? Why the fuck game can't recognise it? I use the same undub as you are, what the fuck...

Booteefool
Booteefool

I used updated FBI.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

He was killed by Lucifer? Please back up your claims. I completed the game and defeated Lucifer/Satan. After that the game said that he led a march onto God's castle/throne

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Get to the final dungeon
It's a clusterfuck that offends both the eyes and ears
It's also fucking gigantic
I will never complain about the Sun in DDS again

FastChef
FastChef

Wait, I've avoided /smtg/ for a bit and haven't fully beaten Final or read any of the lore documents.

Whats this about "bad endings" with the heroes?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

he's just mad he's on a Nintendo console now

hairygrape
hairygrape

Smirk

Techpill
Techpill

Play IV Apocalypse and the DLC, genius.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I completed Apocalypse yesterday and just finished both the beach and diamond realm DLC an hour ago faggot. I asked you for a source, provide one.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Any tips for Cleo? She undoes all my buffs/debuffs, nearly one shots Nanashi and all my demons, so I have to spend so much time healing that I can't damage her.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Literally the fucking game.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

everyone except Hero dies near the end of their game
Homefield advantage really kicked in for Hero. Does that mean he's in theory the strongest SMT protag?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Are you daft mate? Literally NOWHERE in Nocturne is the supposed "death" of Demi-Fiend by the hands of Lucifer mentioned or referenced. You're fucking retarded.

5mileys
5mileys

Are you buffing to max? If so, then that is usually a common trigger for the AI to use Dekunda and Dekaja/Silent Prayer. Keep the buffs/debuffs at +-2

Playboyize
Playboyize

Nocturne

Yeah, you're a fucking idiot. Last reply you're getting from me.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Nocturne

Learn to read you illiterate dunce.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Nah Raidou beat Asura too and he did it with two demons.

Flameblow
Flameblow

In Nocturne
You're fucking illiterate.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

how canon is the messiah dlc? or is it just a "what if" scenario?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Literally NOWHERE in Nocturne
Nocturne

Spamalot
Spamalot

Jesus christ dude.
In the IV Apocalypse DLC where you meet the other protags, Demi-Fiend straight up says "Last thing I remember was dying to Lucifer after defeating Kagutsuchi."

It was just a way to have them all meet up in the DLC. Cmon man.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Look mom, I'm shitposting and trolling!
You retarded niggers still have yet to backup your claim that Demi-Fiend is dead. I'm done with you faggots.

Snarelure
Snarelure

End your life.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Hero isn't decided yet, and Aleph is Law.

cum2soon
cum2soon

See you tomorrow

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Ah, I see now.

Tbh I kind of just skimmed over the text in the DLC. Thanks man.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Not very canon if the SMT 1 protag doing the Neutral ending is canonical to SMT 2.

Lunatick
Lunatick

What a fucking retard.

takes2long
takes2long

So Critical Eye or Zanma on a Valkyrie with Oni Kagura, Javelin Rain and Blast Arrow?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Literally one of the free infodump dlc reports says that pretty much every choice is canon because muh multiverse muh observation so it's all irrelevant.

Booteefool
Booteefool

To spell it out for your decaying turn you think is a brain:

The Messiah Realm DLC is all HYPOTHETICAL bad ends.

Hero got nuked
Aleph got Space Nuked
Demifiend got Morningstar'd
Flynn nuked himself

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

So he's a Messiah even as a True Demon or did he stay human enough to give Lucy the edge?

askme
askme

Just think of the DLC as a parallel universe where they died and encountered Steven and Nanashi.

Inmate
Inmate

what?
I played them a long time ago but
wasn't SMT 1 Neutral ending canon to SMT 2?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Nigga just wanted to visit his hot Christmas cake teacher and ended up killing all of his friends instead.

massdebater
massdebater

Is there an updated version of this image that includes Final/Apocalypse?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

His teacher was a literal useless tool and his friends were dicks. Becoming the Hope of Demonkind was obvious.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Fellas Fellas, it matters not what route is canon in the DLC or not.

All that matters is canonically, factually, and truthfully, Nanashi is stronger than Demi-Fiend.
Demon-Dork better be lucky Nanashi didn't decide to fuck him up in the Diamond Realms.

Nojokur
Nojokur

So they're basically using them to represent the alignments?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Chiaki is better anyway.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

that Angel

MUH

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Not yet, but it would go after IV and say "Alternate timeline during the Neutral Ending where Nanashi the Godslayer is reborn."

Booteefool
Booteefool

I guess?

I don't really think they intended them to be representatives, per sey, just that having two of them share one would make the balance uneven.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Kill yourself.

TreeEater
TreeEater

So what exactly is The Great Will?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Nanashi is not canon since entire Final is not canon. Its weeb fanfiction.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

That is a meme pic.

She was an ugly as tre.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Not him, but what was the point of the dlc? Fanservice?

TreeEater
TreeEater

i'm trying to fuse odin
where do i find this last guy? he's not showing up in the search

Emberburn
Emberburn

Fanservice and a tough boss fight.

cum2soon
cum2soon

"The Great Will is the creator and overseer of the Amala Multiverse and a being often associated with YHVH, its most prominent avatar."

Think of it as an unseen force that created everything and is responsible for everything in every universe, just like YHVH only more unknown.

Honestly I'm expecting to fight it in SMTV or VI's TDE.

TechHater
TechHater

Thor.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

The guy that created the guy that you want to kill so he created you.

FastChef
FastChef

If you have to DLC you can buy Odin for 30,000 Macca in the Demon Market.

That guy's Thor btw.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Every ending and outcome is canon

"As illustrated, there are countless possibilities that can lead to countless alternative universes, each possibility possibly influencing another. Once "observed," each alternative universe becomes its own "true" reality. So in a way, there is no permanent end to this world."

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

For all the people who want all the DLC of SMT IV Apocalypse signed:

Use FBI -> Tickets -> 0004008c0019a200 -> Version 16

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Oh so The Great Will is like the Wave Existence from Xenogears.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

DDS had Brahman instead. DeSu2 had Canopus.

I don't know about Last Bible beyond I and a little of III. Devil Children had Hoshigami.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Just tried FBI. You either memed me hard or got lucky. Because I have literally the same image and its still not working for shit.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

thanks
how do i obtain thor?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Is maken shao any good? I've got a hacked ps2 and no more smt games to play

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Is it ever explained why there's a time difference between Tokyo and the rest of the world? I assume it's because of Masakado and the firmament.

eGremlin
eGremlin

nah

Playboyize
Playboyize

there is no rest of the world

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Here.
aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/
Click name for alphabetical order, scroll down to Thor, click his name and there ya go.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Play Soul Nomad and the World Eaters.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

thanks a bunch!

farquit
farquit

But in the Neutral Ending for IV the dome went up and the outside world was fine.

StonedTime
StonedTime

No. It's kinda shitty even. Either replay your PS2 SMTs or play other games, the fucking PS2 has a shit ton of good RPGs.

I second this.

Soft_member
Soft_member

four herald's elemental skills
heralds
Which

FastChef
FastChef

When the dome went up over Tokyo, the rest of the world burned up in Nuclear warfare.
A lot of time passed outside of the dome, the angels came and gathered children to have them live outside the dome on the new Earth.

Countries like America or Europe don't exist anymore. All that remains is Mikado and some surrounding villages.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Holy shit someone made one for 4a and I can stop relying on that google translated gamers-high list

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The big four
God's elements, the ones that hit everyone and have pierce built in.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Countries like America or Europe
Europe

SniperWish
SniperWish

STOP SUCKING FLYNN'S DICK

ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR, I DID ALL THAT SHIT.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Ya I know what I said.
At this point Atlus considers Europe a third world country that doesn't exist...

TechHater
TechHater

Can you list what demons have them I think I'm retarded. All I can find is single target severe with pierce on smirk and all target severe with no extra effects

askme
askme

all these free items sent bythe association
Bazooka hits minimum 2 times and up to 6
+ motherfucking 50 Dex and Str
Holy FUCK

5mileys
5mileys

I'm still playing IV, not IVA
gabby and friends

cum2soon
cum2soon

If Europe was one big country in SMT, that'd explain the urgency of God's plan. Purge that shit with a quickness.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I THINK I MADE A MISTAKE BY GOING MAG

WORLD OF DEX PLEASE

MAYBE I SHOULD GRIND DLC FOR DX INCENSES

For real though, Dex seems like the most viable option this time around. Str isn't bad either with fucking Akasha Arts + Universal Pierce being a thing

Lunatick
Lunatick

Just fought Shesha for the first time, where the FUCK do I get macca
On Apocalypse difficulty so every fucking item costs like 4x and I want my +HP gear

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Universal Pierce
That's new. Who learns it?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

It's actually Awakened Power on Nanashi. It also gives a slight power increase

WebTool
WebTool

What's the best outfit for Nanashi?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Challenge Quests.

massdebater
massdebater

They also give a +50 mag item.

Firespawn
Firespawn

That's not gonna cut it when one Hazmat piece costs 55k

Lunatick
Lunatick

Meido if you're a gay, Demonica otherwise.

In terms of stats it's probably the improved Samurai outfit, it resists almost everything.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Relic hunting and Challenge Quests. You could also get the Fundraise app plus its bonuses that give extra macca but those drop off in usefulness later on. If you go the Fundraise route just remember to Bind the demons first for guaranteed money.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Fundraiser + Bind inducing skills/items/bullets. Easiest Macca ever.

5mileys
5mileys

Improved Samurai is excellent but it's not what you'd call cute unless you're looking to hook up with Jonathan

whereismyname
whereismyname

Help! I don't know what to choose.

I really want everything!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Six skills
What a loser.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Light Pleroma, Agilao, Zionga

Switch one for Bufula if you're short on Ice spells, but be sure to get Zionga since it's +3

Emberburn
Emberburn

Choose 50 lvl and one more skill slot app, you donkey.

massdebater
massdebater

how much are the bonuses from skill affinity?

and how much do you lose on minus?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Level 44 Megami
Lol get to level 50
the fuck, man? I am only level 44.

Took out Judgement since I read it again and it said only does strong damage vs Neutral demons.

I currently have:
Hamaon, Light Pleroma, Zionga, Agilao, Bufula.
Do I close it out with Grand Tack if a Phys demon comes out of her, Media to heal, or Rakunda for more damage?

farquit
farquit

Make a new thread kid.

I didn't revive you to die so easily

happy_sad
happy_sad

anything that should go on the new OP before I make it?

Methshot
Methshot

veekyforums.com/thread/155411798/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/155411798/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/155411798/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/155411798/video-games

King_Martha
King_Martha

Anyone got screenshots from persona 5 of the wasteland tokyo area with the snake skeleton and the raining blood?

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