When/why pedophilia (~10) and hebephilia (11-15) turned socially unacceptable in the western society?
Is this related to the increase of women in power? Anecdotally, I've heard that during the Victorian era old prostitutes forced the raise of the age of consent just to not lose clients.
>it's another pedophile complaining about age of consent episode
Sebastian Jenkins
Why give a shit about something that only affects the dregs of society?
Thomas Watson
Because you can't have sexual desire before puberty.
Ian Williams
Um wasn't prostitution illegal in Britain at the time anyways? And how would old prostitutes have enough political clout to force such a thing by themselves? Despite the obvious agenda for this I think a thread on the history of age of consent laws would be interesting
Adam Richardson
>dregs of society
Age of consent at 18 is bullshit. Go out to some bar in a rural area, you'll see 14-18 y/o girls where you can't tell the difference between them.
>are you 18 >you sure you're 18 >let me see your ID card, I'm the moral-police
Get fucked, seriously. The only reason you Americans have age of consent at 18 is because you have a phobia of sex before marriage. Literally sandnigger-tier.
Nicholas Harris
Nice meme.
Christopher Green
True pedophilia was literally never at any point in history accepted by society at large, only our way of dealing with it has changed. Up until the last 50 years it was a matter hushing things up or simply ignoring it to protect family reputation. In the last hundred years our knowledge of child sexuality and the harm of child sex abuse increased and caused us to reevaluate how we deal with the issue.
Hebe shit changed as a side effect of that knowledge applied to our increasingly regressed adolescents.
Jack Jenkins
>It's a normies refuse to even think about the topic because they are afraid of it
Isaiah Perez
That is completely and utterly false.
Evan Morales
What about rome and greek having a culture of fucking young little boys? Is it true or a meme?
Brody Hall
I think it is retarded that we classify pedophilia and hebephilia based on age and not on looks. Considering that female puberty starting point isn't fixed, but depends on how much body fat the girl has I think it is unreasonable to assume that a healthy male who is attracted to a 15 year old is mentally ill. 15 year old can these days very easily have the body of a woman.
Isn't the age of puberty for African American girls like 9 currently?
Oliver Baker
>The only reason you Americans have age of consent at 18 is because you have a phobia of sex before marriage That doesn't explain it, as you can easily just marry someone younger than 18 to solve this problem. Also this doesn't prevent premarital sex among teens younger than 18. I agree 18 is somewhat arbitrary but if we're talking about children, actual children that haven't gone through puberty, no you can't fuck them
Jordan Howard
Theres nothing wrong about having sex with people above the age of 16 and the laws of every 1st world country apart from the USofA agree.
Isaiah Allen
>tfw you are 36yo virgin
Anthony Jenkins
The real question is why do you want to fuck kids so badly
Liam Baker
>culture of fucking young little boys? Is it true or a meme?
meme
pederasty usually involved adolescents
Gavin Williams
Ah, I remembered wrong. Not puberty, but breast budding. 10 for white girls, 9 for black girls.
Actually 16 is the age of consent in several states in the US
Hunter Parker
Is hebephilia even a disease?
Carson Bell
Interestingly, on the state level, only ten states have the age of consent at 18. In most states it's 16.
Dominic Jackson
AoC is 16 in some states.
Christopher Garcia
What is happening in the U.S?
Jordan Miller
>That doesn't explain it, as you can easily just marry someone younger than 18 to solve this problem.
That's exactly the point. It's legal in the US to marry a 14yo and have sex with her, but illegal to have sex with a 15yo outside marriage.
Andrew Taylor
Hormones in the food.
Oliver Anderson
To marry someone below the age of consent, you have to have consent of parents or guardians.
Christopher Lee
>In the last hundred years our knowledge of child sexuality and the harm of child sex abuse increased and caused us to reevaluate how we deal with the issue.
Do you really believe this? It's all about banning studies that could suggest there's no harm, and imposing a silence on the whole issue. "Pedo danger" is just the last excuse to control the internet.
Carter Robinson
No, that shows that the law makes an exception for marraige, not that it was made to prevent premarital sex since teens are still able to have sex with eachother
Asher Thompson
Better diet most likely, same reason people are getting taller
Benjamin Smith
Is that even enough data points to draw a conclusion?
Hunter Adams
Actually the age of puberty for girls has gone down massively (more than two years, which is huge) in the last 100 years because of the better supply of food.
If anything, the average 13 yo girl today is similar to the average 15 of 1900. I know it's not only in the body, but yes, it's largely about the body being sexually functional.
>inb4 pedo I'm more into the milf meme.
Hudson Bennett
>I'm more into the milf meme.
>2016 >Not embracing the whole spectrum of fertility.
Dominic Turner
Exactly!
Americans = Sandniggers.
>since teens are still able to have sex with eachother
5 year olds are still able to have sex with each other. That's because you can't persecute it. How are you going to persecute teens having sex with each other, who you are gonna put in jail?
Since Americans can't outlaw premarital sex between teens, they outlaw it between teens and adults so to reduce "the probability of having sex". It's Sandnigger social politics at its finest.
Lucas Smith
This is happenning all over the world.
Joshua Green
>How are you going to persecute teens having sex with each other, who you are gonna put in jail? The male teen.
Benjamin Ross
I think they sent some teenager dude to prison in UK for receiving nudes from his girlfriend.
Grayson Allen
Oh yeah
Henry Cooper
You are so smart. That's not sex.
Jose Phillips
Ive heard of multiple cases of this happening I think in one case the guy was prosecuted for possesion and the girl for distribution (of cp)
Funny world we live in
Christopher Hernandez
>5 year olds are still able to have sex with each other. That's because you can't persecute it. How are you going to persecute teens having sex with each other, who you are gonna put in jail? The male teen, or you could classify attempting sex below 18 as a symptom of sex addiction or some shit and force them to go to a psychologist or have them take medication to reduce their sexual impulses. You need to be more creative, OP
Nolan Price
How is that in any way "/pol/"
Grayson Gray
OP here. I'm not the guy you quoted, mate.
Jacob Johnson
>The male teen
You understand that's impossible? You're a retard.
Nathan Collins
Because you are dumb.
Dominic Morgan
Pedophilia has never been acceptable. Girls may be married, but they were never fucked until they had their period, which was considered to mean she was an adult female
Joshua Robinson
If anything, let's discuss about pedo/hebe in history and not how it is now, please.
Elijah Watson
How is that impossible? This already happens in cases where a male "rapes" a female because she was drunk even though he was drunk also. I'm not promoting some social Marxist conspiracy, this is just how it is
Joseph Davis
When homosex became acceptable You need a group for people to hate if you want a society to survive
James Flores
It's a shit thread anyway, just sage and report it. Mods should close it.
I just needed to tell Americans that they have zero culture and are socially as developed as Sandniggers.
You are making things up.
Eli Foster
Go on, please. Here, the usual pedo post gets quickly 404'd for no reason.
Landon Mitchell
Utter bullshit I've been thinking about sex and fantasizing on older women since I was 6
Wyatt Hernandez
I am not making stuff up. This is besides the point that I was coming up with a hypothetical way that the law could seek to prevent premarital sex between teens if it was indeed strongly anti-premarital sex. It is possible to lock up teenagers. I know that this is somewhat outlandish, that is the entire fucking point and the reason that this isn't actually in the law
Eli Scott
Even if it was never acceptable at large neither encouraged, there is a point where it clearly went from ignored to extremely hated. I think this is the point we are trying to discuss.
Landon Gomez
>In the last hundred years our knowledge of child sexuality and the harm of child sex abuse increased and caused us to reevaluate how we deal with the issue.
The harm is mostly caused by how society treats the matter There are many cases of "victims" not giving a shit and being pushed into feeling bad by "helpers" Things have the importance you give them
Jackson Gutierrez
Perhaps you are a special case? I certainly didn't have sexual desires until puperty
Ryder Stewart
>The harm is mostly caused by how society treats the matter
This. I believe the punishment for child sexual abuse should absolutely be kept in place, but victimization is a pure blight upon society. Everyone decides for himself how he/she feels. "The past" is not more real than a fantasy.
John Baker
>How are you going to persecute teens having sex with each other, who you are gonna put in jail?
There are shittons of cases of 18 years old guys being labeled sexual offenders for having had sex with their few months younger gfs in the US
Hunter Myers
I second him. My first sexual thoughts came up when i was around 8.
James White
Well, my mom used to walk around the house naked I guess it's what awoken my sexual interest since she's the first women I fantasized about