Island nations

>island nations
>long overshadowed by larger, more historically significant powers on the continent
>limited natural resources
>managed to beat all their neighbors to industrialization
>built empires as a result

Britain and Japan have enjoyed good relations for a while. How much of that is down to them seeing themselves in each other?

A lot of it. Japan is like Britain's mirror nation in the east. If they hadn't sperged out in China, and if they'd joined the Allies in WW2, they'd be a member of the UN security council and one of Britain's closest allies today.

I remember hearing a story that the japs have a lock of Nelson's hair at their premier naval academy.

WE WUZ EMPIRES N SHIEEET

That's enough, Zhang

>proud noble disciplined honourable man
>fat obese bucktoothed brit
What did they mean by this

>proud noble disciplined honourable manlet*

>Well-fed, heavily armed and cheerful Royal Navy bear
>Anemic, depressed-looking manlet nip
What did they mean by this?

Man I always forget about Guiana. What are they up to these days?

I dunno but there's a bunch of Hindus there.

It always amuses me to see how brits have convinced themselves that conquering savages is the pinnacle of glory.

>Jealous that his nation didn't conquer as many savages as the UK
Cheer up, there's always next time.

>savages conquer civilizations
>NOT A REAL EMPIRE STEPPESFAGS

Sorry, my country is only the UK's Bitch-daddy.

This one?

>limited natural resources
>Great Britain

Great Britain was sitting on a huge iron and coal deposits until they've depleted them. Nowadays they have huge underwater oilfields.

>fat obese bucktoothed brit
Inferiority complex.

The brit looks fine. Looks like an Ajax-type fellow who would destroy in a pub fight.

Looks like a Glaswegian, mate.

Both Britain and Japan enjoy the privilege of being sheltered, but not isolated. They have a narrow strip of water protecting them from invasions the mainlanders have to suffer, but not isolating them from the mainland completely

>Britain
>limited natural ressources
Half the reason for their industrialisation is the advantage in terrain and ressources they had, like coal and the amount of waterways that could be build to transport it due to flat terrain.

Additionally there are quite some differences
>culture
Besides the Obvious, Britain is a culmination of English, Celts, Normans, Danes and a lot of other influences, whereas Japan only has the Ainu who weren't even a major player for the most part and just oppressed for the rest of history

>built empires
Japan's empire is hardly worthy of note, the only real parts of it are Korea and MAYBE Manchuria, everything else was eitehr insignificant or only held for a short time. And even Manchuria and Korea are nothing compared with India.

Apart from living on islands, the biggest thing that Japan and Britain have in common is social awkwardness.

What is this guy's deal?

sorry son, you can only sit at the big boys table when you can beat vietnam.

>any empire that has existed at the same time as britain
>more historically significant

>limited natural resources
>Britain
Stop this meme.

he saw this guy being impaled

Anglo-Japanese alliance was pretty solid until nips got too greedy.

Except Japan built its empire by beating its once superior neighbours and conquering them
Britain was still militarily inferior to its neighbours even at peak, so they had to go to Africa and South Asia to conquer backward tribesmen who used sticks

Face it, the British Empire wasnt glorious

The British Empire existed from the mid 19th century to the mid 20th century
What OP meant with the 2nd point is that before the 19th century, France, Spain, Russsia and Austria were always more significant than Britain

>from the mid 19th
Even with that bit of bullshit aside, still none of them even at their peak managed to achieve a fraction of the global historical relevancy as Britain did.

There was no such thing as "global relevancy" before WW2
Europe was the world, everything that mattered occured there
That's why outside of its empire's borders, Britain was less relevant than Germany and France even at the peak of the empire

>limited natural resources
>Britain
Nigga you just went full retard.

Was Waterloo one of the most irrelevant great battles of the entire war?
>Empire is lost
>Dependent states are lost
>All lies apart from Naples are lost
>France is exhausted by the war
>If Napoleon wins he will still have the entire coalition to deal with

Japan takes the is~lands

> depleted
They're still there, and they're still huge.

>There was no such thing as "global relevancy" before WW2
>Europe was the world, everything that mattered occured there
Except US was by far the wealthiest, most industrialized nation, and also happened to be the place where modern inventions kept coming out of.

you miss the fact that everywhere the british went we also had to fight the other europeans who wanted the same territory.

India is actually a very good example of this, the opposition if it wasnt led by the french and with significant french troops in support was normally either french or british trained, Canada britain hardly fought the natives mostly fighting the french, and africa had only a few wars and disease was generally a bigger killer than the enemy

India had very few French vs Brits battles, most of the conquest was against locals

Canada was conquered by defeating severely outnumbered French troops when France was busy fighting for its borders in Europe
And even then, it still took the Brits a decade to win (pic related)

And btw, the two places mentioned above accounted for like 1/10th of the Empire
Most of it was built in the late 19th century by conquering backward people without any european opposition

What about the Scramble for Africa?

It wasnt fighting othrer europeans
It was getting there first to conquer nigs

>And btw, the two places mentioned above accounted for like 1/10th of the Empire
>Most of it was built in the late 19th century by conquering backward people without any european opposition
without any direct opposition, the point about the scramble for africa was that everybody wanted the territory, but every diplomatic confrontation was won by britain.

and as for india it represented the majority of the population and overseas wealth of the british empire and was conquered by beating large armies of european armed and trained natives

They just cost a lot to take out that you can gain a profit but not much but the minute the tech exists to heavily reduce it's price of extraction then shit's gonna get crazy with how much they can extract ESPECIALLY due to the slow down and the loss of mining.

England, Wales, and Scotland were covered in some of the best coal and iron deposits in Europe.

I think H.G.Wells contributed reputation of Japan.

>Japan
>Empire
Japan was only able to take on nations that still were in the feudal era and in civil war like China or weak colonial outposts. When confronted by a modern force such as the Americans they got rekt hard. Their army was shit due to old farts rejecting advancement and their navy was shit due to overall incompetence.

>competency=empire status
wew

>Japan was only able to take on nations that still were in the feudal era and in civil war like China or weak colonial outposts.

So the same as Britain?

>When confronted by a modern force such as the Americans they got rekt hard.

So the same as Britain?

>British merchant cuts-off samurai
>samurai says it's shamefur dispray and kills him
>I_wonder_where_this_is_going.jpg
>Brits use ships to bomb Japan's fucking clan
>Japanese fight so well that Brits start crying manly tears and decides to be friends with the clan
>clan becomes apart of the Meiji revolution
>Britain due to the friendship aids said revolution

Japan and Britain bros 4 lyfe

Better question: how much of the relation between Germany and Japan has to do with their history of feudal warring states, psychotic work ethic and weird fetishes?

no one gave a shit about the US before WWII

No one cared who they was until dei put da mask

Nips, chinks and gooks always hated each other. Similar to how french and germans do.

>weird fetishes
USA slapped them too hard and they became degenerates.

>Nips, chinks and gooks always hated each other. Similar to how french and germans do.
its funny as shit cause they all piss in the same lake

>Better question: how much of the relation between Germany and Japan has to do with their history of feudal warring states, psychotic work ethic and weird fetishes?
It had to do more with opportunistic choices than any other kind of imaginary relationship. Before WW2 (and by it I mean the Japanese invasion of China after the Marco Polo Bridge incident), Germans used to have a strong relationship with Nationalistic China, and the Japs with Britain. Hell, do you know where many of the Jap ships were designed and constructed? It was in British naval yards. The fleet that won the battle of Tsushima against the Tsar's Baltic Fleet was designed and constructed in Britain. The Kongous were designed by British naval architects when the battlecruiser concept was in vogue.The Japs even fought in WW1 honoring their alliance with Britain, even if it was a very limited engagement, stealing some Kraut possessions in the Pacific, that later became some of the most famous naval bases of the Imperial Japanese Navy (Truk Lagoon, for example).
Then the 20s and the 30s happen, and the American interests in the region come in opposition with Japan. Japan was still in cahoots with Britain during the time. However, and for obvious reasons, the British preferred cooperation with America than with Japan, straining their historical relationship. Did you know that the Americans went as far as designing war plans against Canada and Britain during the 30s? Japan slowly became choked by the Americans in the Pacific, so they proceeded with preparations for a war against the Brits, the Americans and whoever had a hold in the Pacific. During the 30s, the Germans realised what a bad idea supporting the clusterfuck called Nationalistic China was, and decided to support Japan instead. The rest is history.
Pic related. Yamato and Musashi at Truk Lagoon in 1943.