Can perception of history be changed through politically biased mass media (trusted by the mass)

You can see the thirst for blood in his dead, Teutonic eyes.

>no France in a game for a war in which France was one of the most vital participants

Let's summarize it as saying that I'm still salty. But at least I won't get to see french soldiers being made into blacks in bouts of "we wuz"-isms.

But there were quite a few black French soldiers. They were shipping troops from Africa to fight the Germans.

Tbh, France was pretty irrelevant in that war, besides providing cannon fodder
The BEF+Commonwealth forces, America later on and Germany were the main parties on the western front

True, and France still entertains ceremonies to thank the service of either Senegalese tirailleurs, or Morrocan fighters, and I too am grateful for their service. But know that their numbers have time and time again been grossly overstated, as historians eagerly conflate native French conscripts in various colonies such as French Algeria, summoned to the front as early as 1914 with colonial subjects. This later translates into the fact that many of the colonial troops France boasts about were native Frenchmen more than anything.

But I wouldn't mind France being depicted with some black soldiers, though I must stress the "some" here. There could be no greater dishonor to the french soldiers who endured the war from 1914 onwards than to pretend that their war was actually fight by their colonial subjects. Trying to twist the game into some "actually the native french didn't suffer from WW1! they sent blacks to fight for them :^)" would innately disrespectful.

Hey, gotta make room for dem Bedouins women and Harlem fighter
Who cares about the French, cis white males are already represented in the game by Brits and (some of) the Germans

You what?

Please be bait.

Yes, but people are more intelligent than edgy fedoras give them credit for, few people recounting their experiences of the soviet union actually believed the propaganda.

Propagandists trying to genuinely change people's views rarely get people to believe exactly what they want, but they can misinform them, fillibuster, create a lot of "white noise" to distract them, all this reduces the accuracy of their worldview making it difficult to organize against actual corruption and real problems.

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I'd like to call my great-grandfather and notify him that this is what he fought for. I'm certain that he'll deem the Bedouin female fighters being in a game a worthy recompense for the trauma he suffered fighting 4 years in WW1.

Not even sure if troll or serious, so much desinformation is already in circulation about that war that you can never really know if people are just pretenting tio be retarded or not

But just in case:
France was actually the most important country on the Entente side
The Allied supreme commander was French, the decisive offensive that won the war was French lead, and when the Germans surrendered in 1918, they did to France

Your perception of reality can be changed easily with politicalised media.

Your history can easily be changed.

The only real joy in this world

Perception is inherently subjective.

Any social science is prone to bs due to the inherent subjective nature of perception (you can't help it) and deliberate shitposting agenda to push forward a certain view, normally with shekels and power as ultimate goal, aka propaganda (this can actually be dealt with more easily in a modern age with relatively easy access to information and inter-communication for an educated person)

There's no such thing as a popular perception of history free of the political biases of modern media. History for the masses is just the backdrop they project their contemporary beliefs on in order to define themselves, and it's always been this way, whether it's the myths Herodotus recorded from popular Greek imagination about the Persian War or the modern globalist image of many races and classes fighting together for the sake of its ideals.

American history specifically, and Western history in general will continually be "reinterpreted" to be progressively dismissive of the achievements of whites and instead emphasize their sins and faults. This will only get worse as America gets steadily less white in order to push a leftist social agenda.

Call me a /pol/tard all you want, but most of you know this deep down.

did the germans even use black soldiers in europe

those are not snipers they are standard infantry rifles you dolt

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>this rifle is now a sniper rifle because it has a scope

This guy gets it

Germany used some black colonials, but it wasn't 4 out of 5 soldiers and I'm pretty sure they stayed in Africa.

All you faggots are talking about the rifles and shit and nobody noticed that the horizon line drops off at a ninety fucking degree angle right in the middle of the frame?

>no french and russians in the game
>russian empire literally fucking collapsed because of the war and took massive casualties
>france was where a lot of battles were fought
Who even made this shit?

The Eternal Swede

>no french and russians in the game

As someone whose ancestors served on the Austrian-Russian front I gotta be pretty pissed that they gave more prominence to American niggers and Bedouin women than actual European major players.

I'm not even White and I find this fucking stupid.

Yes. Even in this very board we had threads where people believed that the 70s and 80s saw some gigantic increase in serial killers rather than media-created hysteria about them.

Vietnam WAS bloody even for the United States. If it wasn't for huge advances in combat medicine and helicopter the death toll would have been much, much higher.

I love how they chose the most misogynistic people on Earth (muslims) to introduce their tokken female soldier

even more hilarious is that shes wearing a burka

Black germans and burka wearing female warriors? It's almost like this was a parody or some shit.

I love how it's made in Sweden too, this entire game is like an /int/ or /pol/ meme becoming reality.

Memes are fucking real after all. At least Paradox is somewhat okay, other than the whole shit about putting emphasis on women being councilors in EU4 and women's right in CK2.
At least they acknowledge that non-europeans were technologically inferior.
>usarians come in a couple of years after the war has started and everyone is worn out
>fuck some women in western europe
>lmao we wuz heroes n shiet give gold and praise us
Pretty mad about this shit.

>French resistance

I remember literally every fucking WW2 videogame having some parts where you join up with the French resistance. Saboteur, Medal of Honor, CoD, Commandos etc. While you never hear about the Yugoslav partisans who actually kicked some serious German ass.

I've done this song and dance so many times over the last few weeks that I'm literally going to tell you to check casualty rates through DCAS and the fucking National Vietnam Veteran Foundation. Your perception of Vietnam is significantly overblown by popular media.

I noticed one weird phenomenon, the less bloody a war is, the more will people bitch and moan about it. Vietnam and Iraq were practically a picnic compared to the meat grinder that was WW2 but the contemporary generations went completely apeshit about them.

>While you never hear about the Yugoslav partisans who actually kicked some serious German ass.

Maybe because muricans (main producers of video games) focus their games on countries were murica fought in WW2
And neither Pooland nor Jewgoslavia are among those
They had the choice between using the irrelevant but existing French resistance or making up a fictious Belgian/Dutch one

>United States
>58,315 dead;[28] 303,644 wounded[A 2]
That's pretty significant for what basically amounts to a colonial war on the other side of the world. What the fuck are you talking about?

It's not simply the casualty count, the media was against the Vietnam and iraq wars compared to heavy pro war media during the second world war

Iraq is the worst on that
At least Vietnam was somewhat bloodu, but when I see people talking about PTSD and Iraq oh god...

Has to do with media reporting desu. U.S. casualties weren't shown until Tarawa. You could sit in your house and watch combat in Vietnam on your local news channel.

>casualty rate of 13%
>fatal casualty rate of 2.5%
>fatal combat casualty rate of 1.7%
Yeah, nah, fuck you. Those are peanuts for a war that lasted for 12 fucking years.

>colonial war

You sound like a communist.

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Compared to what???
Not all wars are created equal, obviously a general european conflict using conventional tactics is going to have way higher casualties, but Vietnam was pretty goddamn rough for a bush war. Comparing WW2 and Vietnam is beyond apples and oranges.

oh well

>Compared to what???
Compared to other contemporary wars? 99% of Vietnam wasn't fucking We Were Soldiers or Platoon. The vast majority of it was fucking off on a FOB or in Saigon waiting to rotate out. A 13% casualty rate is very fucking good. A sub 2% fatal combat casualty rate? Are you kidding? That's fucking amazing and almost unheard of in the history of warfare.

>Vietnam
>bush war

And HERE we see how the media distorts people's opinion, your post right here.

80% of Vietnam war were air campaigns, not " midwestern boys hacking through the jungle and getting sniped by spooky pajama men." That image of Vietnam is almost completely a movie creation.

Also another thing:
>using conventional tactics
The majority of the conflict was between ARVN and US Forces against the NVA, not the VC. There were full on tank battles semi-regularly. Eat shit.

>Compared to other contemporary wars?
Lol? Okay show me three colonial wars or anti-insurgency conflict with half as many casualties as Vietnam.

>The vast majority of it was fucking off on a FOB or in Saigon waiting to rotate out. A 13% casualty rate is very fucking good.
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about the 'bloodiness' of it, if the US sends 30 million men and one million die then it's still only 3% mortality rate, still not bloody? The only figure that matters is the total (fucking obviously).

>A sub 2% fatal combat casualty rate? Are you kidding? That's fucking amazing and almost unheard of in the history of warfare.
Again, mainly because of medivac and new combat medicine

Right the US just took 350,000 casualties from bombing campaigns :))))))
your point is fucking irrelevant to the conversation

>your point is fucking irrelevant to the conversation

It's literally what this thread is about you Mongoloid.

Right, then we started talking about something else. Keep up.

>with half as many casualties as Vietnam
>The only figure that matters is the total (fucking obviously)
>looking at total casualties instead of percentages
You are fucking retarded. Raw casualties mean jack fucking shit. Casualties in percentage of those deployed is what actually matters. The only people who care about the raw numbers over the percentage are people who don't know any better: literally you.

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When comparing it to other conflicts, total is what matters. When evaluating combat performance and the 'roughness' of the particular conflict, then the proportion matters. Still waiting to see all those contemporary conflicts you're talking about that makes Vietnam look like disneyland.

Back then rifle optics were actually expensive as fuck, so you wouldn't exactly give a scope to any random grunt.

What pisses me off the most are the hugeass bipods on those things.
No way you could use these in the prone position and when resting on sandbags you'd expose yourself way too much.

So, what then, they read that Germany had African colonies and then just assumed Germany magically teleported Africans to the Western front?

Only Veeky Forums nonces would admit to a theory of ideological reimagining of history, while rejecting Marxism wholesale because it has been ideologically reimagined as state-sponsored socialism. Stay "redpilled," faggots.

Sounds like he's right dubs waster