Banned music during WW2

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_music
youtube.com/watch?v=VH40n5lchQo

Why do you think jazz music was popular and beloved, despite the fact the Nazi government tried to ban it and make citizens dislike it using propaganda? I'm interested in this topic, so I want to know what you think.

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NSDAP, being the plebeians they were, banned both Mahler and Mendelssohn -- two of the greats. They banned Debussy for some perplexing reason, that he had a Jewish ex-wife or something. I can understand why they banned Schoenberg because his music was """"2 modern; not enuff marching music/wagner horns"""". They claim to want a revival of the classicals, but then they failed to see how Schoenberg was actually attempting to revive the classicals. They call Mozart a good German, and in classic German autismo, dismiss the entire notion of Austrian music as distinct from German. They conflated Bach with Mozart as if they are somehow comparable, and then, when faced with the distinctiveness of the 2nd and now 3rd Austrian school, they destroyed the Wiener Symphoniker in a frenzy of autistic rage.

In true NSDAP contradictory style, they held up both Brahms AND Wagner as the definition of German music. The wars of the romantics obviously passed them by, and they must've seen these two composers as somehow compatible. They decry 20th century modernism, and yet support 19th century modernism. It is irreconcilable to hold that Beethoven is the conclusion of Western music, that Wagner is the conclusion of Western music, and that Wagner is the revival of Western music all at the same time. NSDAP were obviously capable of mental gymnastics, probably due to their plebian tastes and ignorance. They almost banned one of the greatest conductors of all time, Furtwangler, from performing.

Not only did they have low tastes, they were also ignorant. They held up Beethoven as the expression of "German Morality", again -- German autismo. The irony of playing the 3rd, 5th, and 9th at NSDAP gatherings shows that their analysis of the 5th is "wwooooww so epin" and the 9th: "badass! ode 2 joy". The morality of Beethoven is Liberte, Egalite, and Fraternite. Ignorant.

The climax of their stupidity was that they banned Austrian Jew- Webern, despite him being a supporter of the Anschluss.

It's funny to think about how many Jews would have supported Nazi Germany if Hitler hadn't explicitly rejected them.

During the First World War, Germany had a ton of excellent Jew scientists keeping them on the same level as the allies.

Just to add:

They denounced 12-tone despite it first appearing in the Classicals like Mozart.

They denounced the rhythm of Jazz and "le nigger music XDD" despite it's appearance in Beethoven.

These: nationalvanguard.org/2015/03/three-jews-and-the-ruin-of-classical-music/ are the kind of mouth breathers that would have governed the NSDAP music policy.

Just imagine if some /pol/ NEET ran your life and decided if you listened to music that wasn't "Tannhauser, Burzum, and the Evangelion OST" you would be shot in the back of the head.

yes, and many American-German Jews were upset that America declared war on Germany, since Germany offered some protection from Russian pogroms.

NSDAP were autistic though.

I like Tannhauser though

Depends, the Nazi's used it sparingly for propaganda in the end.

youtu.be/XsPOKoNKii4

Funnily enough Adorno also hated similar types of jazz because he thought it was capitalist culture :)

really makes you think

but what about other areas of aesthetics? Fashion, art and architecture?

>"le nigger music XDD" despite it's appearance in Beethoven.

Proto-jazz only exists in one Beethoven piece by chance when he was deaf. I know the theory that romantic music helped start jazz in post-slaverly America to begin with, but implying Beethoven is "jazz" is too far. Beethoven was also the most popular classical composer in Nazi Germany, if I remember correctly.

>implying beethoven wasn't black