What went wrong?
What went wrong?
Liam Ross
Colton Carter
Betraying the US.
Jordan Carter
This
And no industry
Caleb Nelson
think they tried that
Blake Perry
Not securing Kentucky and Missouri allegiance (would've added tens of thousands of additional soldiers to their armies and would've blocked any Union advance into the Deep South via overland).
Failure to defend New Orleans
Electing Jefferson Davis as president (great military mind, but a poor civilian leader).
Not taking the leash off Stonewall Jackson and letting him lay waste to the North.
Not invading California to force the Union into a continent-wide war.
Not shooting Albert Pike as a spy.
Failure to secure British and French recognition or using a false flag attack to force their intervention.
Putting Hood in command of the defense of Atlanta.
Cotton diplomacy.
Not giving Forrest a field army to command.
Not adopting Cleburne's emancipation for military service 1-2 years earlier when the war's outcome wasn't a forgone conclusion and the additional numbers could've made the difference.
Continuing to grow cash crops during a Union blockade and not switching to produce which could've fed their armies.
Paroling captured Union soldiers and not using them as expendable slave labor.
Brayden Howard
not making the secession peaceful, which was a realistic goal.
Most Confederate leaders knew that the longer the war dragged on and the larger the scale of fighting, they would lose, simple as that.
In the beginning, it seemed that the session would have been peaceful, no shots were fired as states left and federal forts/banks were seized between December and April. There probably was a chance for agreement between the north and south.
after the shots were fired in Charleston though and the war started, Confederates could only hope that the war would be so small in scale that maybe 1 or 2 victories would be enough to scare the union out of war, and placed their hopes into Manassas for that victory that would spook the Union into recognizing the break.
After the first victory, there was serious talk in Washington about just that, but ultimately it was decided to escalate the war instead, dooming the confederacy into a long and protracted war that they had no ability to win.
Adrian Peterson
The Cuntfederates didn't have any foreign backing.
Camden Barnes
>Not conscripting the niggers as cannon fodder
>think they tried that
en.wikipedia.org
>Though most Confederates were opposed to the idea of using black soldiers, a small number suggested the idea. An acrimonious and controversial debate was raised by a letter from Patrick Cleburne[86] urging the Confederacy to raise black soldiers by offering emancipation; Jefferson Davis refused to consider the proposal and issued instructions forbidding the matter from being discussed.[87] It would not be until Robert E. Lee wrote the Confederate Congress urging them that the idea would take serious traction.[88]
>On March 13, 1865,[12] the Confederate Congress passed General Order 14[77][89] by a single vote in the Confederate senate,[12][90] and Jefferson Davis signed the order into law. The order was issued March 23, but as it was late in the war, only a few African American companies were raised in the Richmond area before the town was captured by the U.S. Army and placed back under U.S. control.[91]
Joshua Bell
samefag
Basically all the smart Confederate generals knew they had to give freedom to any slave that wanted to enlist.
The stupid rich politicians in Richmond fought the Generals on it until it was too late to matter.
Nicholas Butler
samefag last time
en.wikipedia.org
>By late 1863, it had become obvious to Cleburne that the Confederacy was losing the war because of the growing limitations of its manpower and resources.[10] In 1864, he dramatically called together the leadership of the Army of Tennessee and put forth the proposal to emancipate slaves and enlist them in the Confederate Army to secure Southern independence.[11][12] His plan did not include black equality, suggesting that legislation and foresight would ensure relations between blacks and whites would not materially change.[13] This proposal was met with polite silence at the meeting, and while word of it leaked out, it went unremarked, much less officially recognized.[10] From his letter outlining the proposal:[14]
>"Satisfy the negro that if he faithfully adheres to our standard during the war he shall receive his freedom and that of his race ... and we change the race from a dreaded weakness to a position of strength.
>"Will the slaves fight? The helots of Sparta stood their masters good stead in battle. In the great sea fight of Lepanto where the Christians checked forever the spread of Mohammedanism over Europe, the galley slaves of portions of the fleet were promised freedom, and called on to fight at a critical moment of the battle. They fought well, and civilization owes much to those brave galley slaves ... the experience of this war has been so far that half-trained negroes have fought as bravely as many other half-trained Yankees.
>"It is said that slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties."
Blake Wright
Northern armies wholesale rape of southern women made it increasing difficult to keep southern soldiers in the field choosing instead to rush home in an attempt to protect them
Colton Robinson
it was certainly an economic issue when so much wealth was tied up in a slave. Think about it in today's dollars a male would cost 15k to 20k.
Carson Johnson
They basically just wanted to live in peace which is why they didn't properly embrace total war
They were too soft and generous to their enemies like Germany in WW2
James Peterson
If you were to believe Clinton's word they could have gotten away with it since "I will not enforce a law were it is not wanted"
He of course took the first opportunity he got to gain a casus belli, they should have kept their head down and not have been bold.
Logan Cruz
North grew more food, north had more industrial capacity, north had more disposable Irish to throw into the meat grinder.
South was dominated by a bunch of non food cash crop growing plantation owners. Their way of life was coming to an end, not because of slavery, but because Europe was getting their trade goods from colonies now.
So while the South had better military minds and the advantage of only having to fight defense. It didn't make up for their poor economics and logistics.
Noah Bailey
>Betraying betrayers of the Crown
Ultimately: Virginia was shouldering like literally 90% of the economic strain and especially the manufacturing resources in its state to keep the Confederate army supplied, armed, and clothed. Also I think the supermajority of railroad networks and infrastructure for the South were in Virginia.
Doesn't matter how good your generals are, skilled your soldiers and armies are, or how motivated you are, when one or two states have to deal with the lion share of logistics to keep you going, its a bad handicap.
Juan Perry
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Also Missouri messes up the aesthetic shape.
Camden Rodriguez
They were too lazy to pick their own cotton
Owen Morgan
hear
Is it true that the state of Florida should return to Spain in the future?
is that internet say that Spain recover the state of florida in the future
John Martin
>germany
>soft and generous
Christian Sullivan
On top of all that the Confederacy was not always the most united within its own membership. As I recall, Texas was constantly fucking around and not quite obeying orders.