>ok, so if I want to convert a car to be as close to a rally version, what would I need to do? win the lottery
Isaiah Morris
I mean if you are asking these kinds of questions then its not for you.
Just buy a WRX STI or RS focus and stick some lame stickers on it.
Jackson White
You are looking at 250k
Adrian Rogers
-9001/10 Although I'll be surprised if retards don't show trying to offer genuine "advice".
Jose Martinez
who hurt u?
Josiah Phillips
do you know what a rally car is.
Ian Gomez
Do this: >aquire a somewhat compact car >fit a new suspension system that also raises the car to an extent >get tires with a higher sidewall than stock >install underbody protection, further stiffen up the body if required >you could strip out the interior and install a rollcage, but those are unpractical (doesn't seem like you want to actually use it in competition) >bucket seats are important though >add horsepower and stickers (not required though)
.. and you'll end up with pic related. A daily driver you can also blast down a dirt road in.
Base car could be anything though. Hatchback, compact sedan, small sportscar, front-, rear- or all-wheel drive, turbocharged or not etc
Michael Walker
forgot picture, sorry
Blake Collins
Thanks user, that is what I had in mind!
Isaac Jones
You can make a good rally car for around 10k usd if you do all the labour, now if you want a professional class thats another story unless you have deep pockets.
Ryder Garcia
>my pockets aint empty cuz
what previous user wrote, hit the nail on the head, just something usable on dirt roads, that can be floored mercilessly.
Gabriel Martin
>rally like bread fetching machine? strip it out, put in a "clubsport cage with rear cross", put stickers on it, you're done at least that's what i'm reading from the OP
Jacob Long
I can't believe retards on /o can't come to this conclusion. It should NOT have taken this long for this post to appear
Austin Morales
To give you an idea how out of your depth you are, look in to sequential transmissions. Not only are they insanely expensive, their life expectancy is measured in hours. You have neither the money or skill to have one.
Parker Gonzalez
>OP asks for something as close to a rally car as possible, with a picture of a tarmac wrc car >Veeky Forums recommends a pretend rally car that's really a shitty home brewed crossover LEL
>Impreza 2.5 (NA) or BMW 325/328 >MUH SUSPENSHUN or just a set of forester struts kek >15 or 16 inch wheels with used rally tyres >bolt some aluminium sheets to the bottom >pull abs fuse >add monster stickers >oversteer into tree and die
Isaiah Lewis
how is a ralley car usable?!?!?!? you cant give people rides you cant go anywhere without attracting attention it will cost waaaay more than a regular car to own it will require a lot more maintinence vehicle theft becomes a reality the performance that you get isnt usable on the streets there are so few places where the extremem suspensions and drivetran would even be usable
Joshua Butler
For rally.
Ethan Powell
rally stages have tarmac and gravel variants soo its usable if set in that way.
Luke Nguyen
which one?
Zachary Jackson
do tell what stage and coarse do you want this car for? are you sponsored? have you even checked with your insurance company on if they will allow you to insure a ralley car?
if you dont tell them and somthing ever happens to it nothing will be covered
Wyatt Ross
Rip out interior, stiffen the frame roll cage rust repair etc, than just put on rally suspension with a good gravel tire and than you can go hard on dirt roads.
Zachary Perez
>Vehicle theft Yeah some regular jamal knows how to turn on a proper rally car. Have you been in one, or at least seen one its literally a fucking helicopter.
Nicholas Gutierrez
They just winch the thing on to a low loader, and strip the parts out. A proper rally car transmission costs $100k, it's worth the hassle.
Colton Martin
>insurance You don't drive your rally box to work.
Owen Barnes
At what fucking point has Veeky Forums ever done anything proper
OP get a Neon SRT and lift it two inches. Done.
Carson Harris
I dont need a proper rally car, just a approximation which I can daily and enjoy increased tarmac and gravel usability.
Are wrc cars these days fwd or awd?
Aiden Ramirez
Please stop posting.
James Rogers
Already told you what to do here, especially if you're just trying to do better than a stock shitbox. Not that hooning a rally course in literally anything isn't fun.
Easton Fisher
>I like the usability of rally cars >Are they awd or are they fwd? just fuck my shit up
Christopher Bennett
>implying Veeky Forums isn't a car shitposting containment board >implying every board on Veeky Forums isn't a shitposting containment board
Blake Edwards
>Rally >Add horsepower This is wrong.
Alexander Stewart
If you are this fucking retarded, please stop using the MK1 Focus as your image.
Pick some low end clio or something.
Thomas Moore
its doable
get a beater with a clean straight chassis with no rust and a good engine with a big aftermarket presence.
you could build one in your garage but it would take years and you'd end up spending 50k+ anyway just to wrap it round a tree.
just get a old rwd beater and head up the nearest dirt road.
organized rally races are such a fucking wank and have such a high entry barrier
Nolan Foster
rally cars make like 350hp
Justin Sullivan
And cars from the factory come out with 350hp today.
>350hp >lets add more hp >fwd 600whp rally car Yea, totally makes sense.
Anthony Ross
>cars from the factory come out with 350hp today. yeah a very small percentage... are u fucking stupid. name a hatchback with 350hp. I'll wait.
Open the technical regulations, read article 252, 253, 254 and 261, start building according to what you find in each of those documents, enjoy your rally car. An R5 is probably the closest to a street car and the cheapest legit rally car you can build according to the FIA regs
Nicholas Collins
Next question: can you rally that stock RS from factory?
Hunter Perry
you forgot the hydraulic handbrake
Cameron Flores
if you tune it like rally cross car they have a very soft suspension so it's really usable on the streets
Logan Thomas
>goal posts Drop a roll cage in it and yes.
Ethan Walker
thanks.
Aaron Wood
I wonder what all the pro teams do with their old rally cars and if they crush them and send them back to the manufacturer like they do with factory team motocross bikes.
I imagine there'd be a nice collector market for used up rally cars, even without engines. I'd love to buy an old pastrana sti that has been rolled 9000 times
Aiden Bell
Be aware, building a rally car fully compliant with those FIA regs will be very, very expensive. Like, hundreds of thousands of dollars expensive.
If you want to just convert a cheap shitbox and have fun on some mountains, then find whatever federation/governing body promotes local amateur rally championships and see what kind of technical regulations it enforces.
Chances are they will "only" need basic safety equipment (rollcage, harness, extinguisher, suit, helmet, HANS, etc) and not much else, which is still infinitely cheaper than building a proper R5
It really depends on how much money are you ready to blow and how far you want to go with your racing ambitions. If you have the money to build an R5 or better, then you should probably consider setting up a small team and renting the car to other people
Jaxson Adams
>buy RWD shitbox >lift kit >big ol tires and/or mudflaps >we rally now
Elijah Campbell
>americans actually think this
Cameron Taylor
>implying you really need anything other than a lift kit and a dream
Nolan Rivera
>implying you really need anything other than a lift kit and a dream
muh nikkuh
never stop believing
Ryder Turner
Took you an hour to find one single example. Great job.
Hudson Morgan
>21:06 >21:31
I'm not him but you are a retard.
Jack Kelly
The difference between nasa/scca and fia is nothing.
Leo Long
>I'm not him Surreee.
Remind me how 350hp is common in stock economy cars again.
Hunter Bell
It's not though, Economy cars would only produce 200-250 max. MPS/Evo/Wrx/RS etc aren't economy cars, they're performance 4 bangers. Until I see a car making 350hp that delivers 5L/100km then that person is wrong.
Mason Flores
>It's not though Exactly.
Jonathan Gomez
>Implying I was that retard
Adam Williams
What I meant was that you can join your local motor club (or whatever you call them over there) and see if they have any event where stock or semi-stock cars can race.
There is plenty of that stuff in Europe, they go from basic cone courses to hillclimb on public roads to legit dirt stages. The more dangerous the course, the less stock the car will be, but you can still race on a budget and have fun without going full-blown FIA spec on every part of the car.
The logic is the same behind autocross, but for rallying, and it allows people to race without spending a fortune