And I live in eastern Norway, also a place with very cold winters - still, not every car has a heater
I'm willing to accept the fact that some vehicles probably will have/had it as a factory option, but to say that every single vehicle sold new has one from the factory is a bit tough for me to swallow
Carson James
This. I live in the southern U.S. and I don't have one. It doesn't get below 10 degrees Fahrenheit even in the winter, and is usually warmer than 50 all year long. (Black paint with Black Leather Interior master race)
Jaxson Lewis
Then either your cold isn't that cold, or your cars are shit. How do you start the car when it's -50c outside in the morning without a fucking block heater?
John Jones
>tfw 300k mile shitbox vee ate still starts without block heater in -30f just gotta crank that bitch twice
Ayden Brooks
-30 isn't that cold.
Grayson Watson
If those are the temperatures you regularly see during the winter then it makes a lot of sense.
The reason why you only ever see vehicles with them is simply because any vehicle in your area without one is 100% useless for half the year or maybe even more.
My area doesn't get that cold. -30c to -35c is quite common during the nights, with -40c or just under does occur every now and then. In my local area most cars do have engine heaters, but there are plenty who don't. These are usually people who park their cars inside a heated garage at night, or catch rides to work on the coldest mornings as their cars don't start
Still, even at -40c you shouldn't have trouble as long as the battery is in good condition and the coolant & oil isn't frozen (which the oil fucking will be, which I would avoid like the plague)
An extra problem here is that the absolute majority of vehicles are diesels. This means its even more important to have a good, strong battery, and ofcourse glow plugs that work as intended. We also start selling winterized diesel at the start of each winter, which is simply diesel with a much lower point of gelification
William Brown
My guess is you've only ever seen 2 cars in your life
Maybe the factory (mis)identified a problem with them and/or they had a "reputation" for not starting/being wonky without them? Maybe the owner specified it because he liked to spend his leisure time hunting babby seals in the canuck boonies or Alaska?
Wait a second bruh. Their cars generally start fine WITHOUT block heaters, yet they are shit? They don't need help with cold climate starts...and Sorry cars do?
MightyBenz lives in -30C climate, that's darn cold, so I wonder how cold it usually gets in A Fucking Leaf...
Xavier Martin
-30c is a fine daytime temperature. And even with indoor, you can't buy a car without a block heater here. They just aren't sold. Diesel is reserved for commercial/industrial though.
I've seen hundreds. And last month (April) it went down to -26c. We still have snow right now, but by the end of the month it'll get up to +30 going by last year. Canada is a fun place to live.
Carter Sullivan
Exactly - nobody in their right mind would sell a vehicle without a heater there as they know that they would either not be able to sell them as people would demand one, or they'd have really angry customers returning with the start of winter as they weren't able to find the plug to put the cable in
I kinda wish more people would have & use them here... much less EGR trouble, less emissions, fewer breakdowns and so on
And I know your temperatures feels. Its -2c outside right now, but tomorrow it might even hit like +20c in the sun
Caleb Moore
Ah, so that's the situation
If'n you want fun, try working in an area where the climate is typically 70-85% humidity with 39-44°C in the shade. Day and night heat and sweating drains not only your liquids but your soul, and you can't just have localized air conditioner like you can plug some electric heaters and warm up the frozen metal bits/your general work area