German (((engineering)))

what in the fuck?

>audi (((engineering)))

In pic BMW engineering

GREAT GERMAN IDEAS

THIS IS ONLY A PROBLEM ON THE AUTOMATIC

WHY VW/AUDI WHY

The 305 was basically garbage on purpose. Undersquare instead of oversquare and choked on both the intake and exhaust sides. Fuel crisis and whatnot. It's hardly like it was maxed out from the factory.

Seriously, what car is that?

pls learn a thing or two about engines

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJJJJAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

>mercedes w124 front suspension

first gen E-Class. That was how they tacked on 4WD.

Man, every time I look at that, I wanna go light up my bong and get really really stoned.

>MIGHT AS WELL GO THROUGH THE OIL PAN TOO
>GERMAN ENGINEERING, SO RELIABLE

It's a cherrypicked imaginary engine. You know how we do things, make a sportscar engine then detune/return it to work in vans, trucks, and passenger cars. Less crazy cams, more restrictive intake, lower compression etc.

What in the.....how?

You have utterly destroyed what little respect I had remaining for Daimler-Benz. I will always be snickering uncontrollably from now on whenever I see one on the road.

>entire country somehow gets a reputation as having great engineering
>can't even make rubber parts that don't fucking disintegrate

no no no no no no no

>have never seen an awd in their lives

Replacing AC compressor on an A4?
>Step 1. completely fuck your own shit up
>Step 2. replace compressor
>Step 3. put everything back in the right place, have fun :)
if you're trying to say that system is in any way a good idea, or normal, you haven't seen an AWD system in your life either

driveshaft through the oilpan is very very common, stop being such a newfag

>yuropoors can afford overengineered cars
>amerifats have to stick with archaic technologies like pushrods or leaf springs
whos the poorfag here

Alphonse you niggerfaggot put your name back on

>very very common
>only on old hacked together E classes, some BMWs, and some chebby 4x4s
even if it was actually common it's still a fucking terrible idea
guy who doesn't actually work on cars thinks leaf springs are "archaic", man who woulda guessed

toyota, nissan, ford, chrysler and others have it

>it's still a fucking terrible idea
confirmed for fucking clueless

>He doesn't know where the chains are

Didn't they do this same shit with the Ferrari FF?

>entire rear dif is sitting in the oil pan along with a shitload of the driveshaft
>this is somehow fine
do you have a single example to prove this lol

isnt that like an ar15 charge handle

this.

except the differential is not inside the oilpan you fucking newfag

holy shit, fucking summer

>LITERALLY
>CAN'T
>SEE

how does an a4 have a v8?

>LITERALLY
>CAN'T
>SEE

do you understand what INSIDE means you fucking summer???

holy fuck, cuck yourself

V8s have been present in S4s/RS4s since 2003.

This pic raises an interesting question: if the diff housing is an integral part of the oil pan, is it in the oil pan?

how do you tighten those studs that go inside the block?

no, it is not inside the oilpan, is the oil filter inside the oilpan?

but is an s4 an a4? im pretty sure nobody calls their s4 an a4

>is an s4 an a4?
Yes.
>nobody calls their s4 an a4
So? I call my car a racecar despite it being a shitbox.

>itt: some filtered tripfag and a bunch of morons confuse the front diff for the driveshaft
>and dumb tripfag thinks the rb26 integrated oilpan is the same system as the 4matic

mercedes engineering

>a longitudinal awd set up is not a longitudinal awd set up

neither the mercedes differential is inside the oilpan, faggot

also, I am a namefag you fucking summer

the highly over rated 190E cosworth has the worlds worst fuel injection system.

never said anything about that

keep thinking they're common though, while the rest of the world doesn't have to suffer from these shit designs

worst kind of fuel injection ever

It's not even that they're outright BAD cars, it's that Japanese and American companies come to the same result with a lot less bullshit.

An S4 is literally an A4 with a bigger engine.

they are?

>while the rest of the world doesn't have to suffer from these shit designs
literally every longitudinal awd car aside from some exceptions like subarus and audis has it

yeah nobody wants to do the timing chain on the 6 cyl subarus, but those engines were actually engineered by porsche. actually who knows why?

what the fuck does that have to do with the differentials?

shit designs. etc

name a better configuration for longitudinal awd then

>brotip; you can't

i like the pinz system

Copy Nissan's ATTESA system.

But in that pic, the oil filter is not mounted to the oil pan. Is it? I know exactly jack shit about RBs

that is not awd, thats 4wd

American ***engineering***

true but its got a mid engine 4x4 system thats hard to beat

>Comparing performance cars to a fucking Bronco

yeah, but it is not awd

I asked you to come up with a better solution for longitudinal awd set up than the one that we were discussing

Okay then, it's time to re-name German engineering to JUST engineering.

no this

what is that?

search this

>tfw this is my engine

The Cadillac ATS system? Jeep doesn't have their diff in the pan or their shaft going through it either? Land Rover? Mercedes learned their lesson and G wagons haven't had that system for years? Hello? Retard?

Do you actually think you have to put gaskets on and shove your diff, axle(s), or driveshaft through the oilpan to have AWD/4WD on a longitudinally mounted motor? Do you really think it's a necessity? Have you ever actually worked on a FUCKING CAR LOL

>American Engineering

I saw that and started laughing harder until I couldn't breathe.

I dunno what point you're trying to make, the 258 was bulletproof

How do the germans get away with this?

>muh efficiency
>takes 4 hours to check anything under the plastic
>takes 1 week to fix anything that breaks

How is it efficient?
>we used all the space available!

Exactly. I just forgot the
>t.burger

I drive a ford with AWD and it doesn't have this engineering flaw. Must be older fords without the superior torque vectoring system.

>cadillac
lol haldex, it's trash

>jeep
jeep is 4wd dummy, so is land rover and the g wagon

>Do you actually think you have to put gaskets on and shove your diff, axle(s), or driveshaft through the oilpan to have AWD/4WD on a longitudinally mounted motor?
again autists, name a better way to set up a longitudinal awd drivetrain

>Have you ever actually worked on a FUCKING CAR LOL
no because mechanics exist???

what ford?

Beautiful. One of the best engines ever made.

The best part is they managed to make it bigger in every dimension AND heavier than an LS. VAG's engineering is like a train wreck, you know it's horrible, but it's somehow fascinating to watch. You just can't look away.

>no because mechanics exist
figures that some know-nothing fuckboi would defend a retarded design that is incredibly uncommon, because he knows nothing
>haldex is trash
which is why the CTS-V handles better than cars half its weight and has a sub 8 minute burgerking time LOL. literally all you have to do to not have a bunch of shit sitting in your oilpan is...move your oilpan. you retarded namefag

>American ***engineering***

The Mustang had a 4.2 with 120 hp for like three or four years though.

2013 Escape
Ironically, the German designed one

Wasn't the 190E Cosworth horrendously underpowered for what it was supposed to be?

they could've gone with EFI instead of the horrid KE-Jetronic which never actually works. I mean, even Opel and BMW had EFI on their cars in the mid 80s.

>Hans, put ze dreivenshaft through the springer, ja?
>Jawohl Friedrich, but vat vill I do wiz ze diff?
>Hans, you scheisse idiot, put it through ze oilpann!

Fucking hell, I'd even take an eternally understeering rebadged VW over that clusterfuck.

It's an electro-mechanical system with some electrics tacked on onto an ancient K-Jetronic injection system. The result is the worst of both worlds, a really error-prone and hard to diagnose system that doesn't work if any of the electrics fail. I've worked on 190E Cosworth rally cars with the original injection and something as simple as a broken engine temperature sensor or poor ground connection wreaks havoc on everything; the mechanical side of the system doesn't really seem to provide any redundancy whatsoever.

>retarded design
again autist, feel free to post a better longitudinal awd set up

I don't want to put pressure on you autist, but you have failed to come up with a better layout

>which is why the CTS-V handles better
lol no
literally delusional, the cts-v isn't awd you fucking sperg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_CTS-V#Third_generation_.282016.E2.80.93present.29

>Layout Front-engine, rear-wheel drive
>rear-wheel drive

congrats on being fucking stupid, let me guess you are an ameridumb aswell

isn't the escape a haldex system, if it is, it is trash

>Hold my beer Hans, we vill put ze engine in the rear of the car
>B-but Butzi...

fucking Germans, not even once

t. clueless

holy shit, americans are literally embarassing themselves all over this thread

>escape a haldex system
Nope, it runs full time. Gives rear more power from standing starts, sends power to the front while cruising on the freeway, and can send 100% power to one wheel if it needs to.

Idk what modern haldex is like, but last time I tired it, it was just like driving FWD until it slipped. Escape doesn't feel like that at all.

Are... Are you guys seriously bitching about chain/gear driven cams?

Good awd has the front diff in front of the engine or under

German Engineering sux, American Engineering also sux too

The winner is Korean Engineering!