/sthg/ Sonic the Hedgehog General

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we discuss Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including cartoons and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks speedrunning, and more!

/sthg/ #756 - Shadow in Persona edition

Link Compilation<
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Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
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General Interest Links<
/sthg/ is making a game! Modelers, Designers, Artists, and more are needed!
Project folder: drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw9wQojS0lxpOHBEdERyNXVIeWM

Sonic Time Twisted
overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Source Code for Bump in Sonic 1
www10.zippyshare.com/v/Vh05gC9s/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

The Current Archie Comic Situation
theamazingsallyhogan.tumblr.com/post/157126289491/sonic-the-hedgehog-scott-fulop-narrative-ark

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
toonova.com/sonic-boom
toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

Sonic News<
Sonic Forces Classic Sonic Gameplay
youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw

Sonic Boom Fire & Ice Concept Art Found
sonicstadium.org/2017/04/sonic-boom-fire-ice-concepts-found/

Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania Nintendo Direct Video
youtube.com/watch?v=A7bsS2mWDuw

Sonic Mania and Forces Famitsu Article
tssznews.com/2017/04/12/famitsu-has-released-new-information-on-sonic-mania-forces-iizuka-interview/
sonicstadium.org/2017/04/morio-kishimoto-is-directing-sonic-forces-no-boom-sonic-will-be-at-e3/

Previous thread veekyforums.com/thread/176186762/video-games

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twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/861565031997202433
twitter.com/babylonian/status/852298423931854848
youtube.com/watch?v=XBZgk8gJc6g
juicebox.dj/videogames
youtube.com/watch?v=FOuF0U8FSiw
bleedingcool.com/2017/05/09/archie-comics-still-not-talking-about-cancellation-of-sonic-the-hedgehog/
youtu.be/MDZf5nvr66w
youtube.com/watch?v=kgW-FP8ResA
picarto.tv/GeekofLove
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animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-05-10/sonic-the-hedgehog-extreme-skateboarding-game-lost-footage-revealed/.115882
s-dash.blogspot.de/2017/05/blog-post.html
veekyforums.com/thread/176423024/video-games

Booteefool
Booteefool

I removed the Archie to send email part because it's past April.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Better thread with no gayness. Thanks
Anyone tried that new Shiness game? Apparently its alot like Skies of Arcadia

WebTool
WebTool

youtu.be/yIOGU00044w
youtu.be/dRgqOL3T1do

Evilember
Evilember

Balenaproductions

RumChicken
RumChicken

Don't start.

FastChef
FastChef

So why did Sonic Team feel the need to create a new character for Forces instead of using one of the established characters? Especially since the other characters already have fans that would love the chance to play as them again?

farquit
farquit

It's good but the combat can be a bit back and forth.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Maybe it's another Chip situation. He is probably connected to why Eggman conquered most of the world.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

If they use an existing character and the gameplay turns out shit then the character's reputation will tank

idontknow
idontknow

God forbid they introduce anything new to the franchise without asking their schizophrenic fans for permission first.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

But they already have so many characters they refuse to use.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Yeah but honestly I'd like it if the combat were a bit slower and the regular specials worked from hit confirming rather than mashing the 3 or so buttons in quick succession.

TechHater
TechHater

Too bad, faggot. If they fit the part then they aren't used.

SniperGod
SniperGod

youtu.be/rpalKeWBrBY
BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREAKFAST TIME BREA BREA BREA BREA BREAKFAST TIME

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

What would the sonic characters arcanas be?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

*If they don't fit the part

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Now then, now that the comics are gone, I move that all discussion regarding them be moved to /co/ or /trash/ they no longer have a place here.

takes2long
takes2long

I move that you remove the cock from your mouth, but that's just as unlikely as your proposal.

Techpill
Techpill

Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we discuss Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including cartoons and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks speedrunning, and more!

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I guess we gotta remove the comics part from the OP now.

Methnerd
Methnerd

To be fair we never have real comic discussion anyway. Every time a discussion starts it's cut off with REEE COMICSFAGS or (insert billionth valid argument on why the Freedom Fighters shouldn't exist)

Skullbone
Skullbone

To be fair
No need to hold back.

eGremlin
eGremlin

When was the last time we had a civil discussion about ANYTHING before it was derailed by shitposting, let alone the comics? Closest I can remember is the museum fanlevel.

RumChicken
RumChicken

How come Sonic the Comics aren't instead discussed in /co/?

I mean isn't this usually a General for Sonic games or am I just too single minded focused on that since I never gave Archie a single cent?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Nah.

WebTool
WebTool

Comic discussion wouldn't be a problem if it didn't consist of heavy waifufaggotry and saying it's better than every other continuity.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

This general was created to continue discussion following a marathon of comics on /v/. Not /co/, /v/. This general has always been comics-based and it's only newfags like you who don't realize it.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

That kinda proves his point of why it can't go to /co/. I myself would like to discuss Sonic the FRANCHISE as a whole, not one of it's niche brands.

viagrandad
viagrandad

You know it's not mutually exclusive right? Discuss the games or the cartoons or whatever else you want.

girlDog
girlDog

I myself would like to discuss Sonic the FRANCHISE as a whole
Then do it, cunt.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Rude ass.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

If they use a new character and the gameplay turns out shit then the franchise's reputation will tank.

Inmate
Inmate

implying I am a newfag
Welcome Home honey~

whereismyname
whereismyname

Wheres my Sonic /mu/ Bros at?
youtu.be/ExUtW369jok

5mileys
5mileys

youtu.be/9JgKvrZjZqE
Dooo doo do do du doo doo dooo~

Soft_member
Soft_member

This probably.
twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/861565031997202433

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I want you to give him attention not only as a character or a game[style]
him

So much for making waifus.

Firespawn
Firespawn

They haven't made a mainline female since Blaze, you were foolish for even expecting that. I'm really fucking hoping this guy isn't a cat or that he has abilities somebody in the reject pile already has

RumChicken
RumChicken

Oh god is it Iizuka's self insert?

Techpill
Techpill

What if the new character is blaze's brother?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I'm really fucking hoping this guy isn't a cat or that he has abilities somebody in the reject pile already has
Really wondering what abilities they could give him that would be at least interesting.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Nope, he'll either begon after this game like chip and tikal and gemerl or he'll be on par with sonic,shadow and silver. I'll be surprised if they don't have him be a hedgehog.

likme
likme

He'll have the ability to cheer on the Sonics while they do everything.

massdebater
massdebater

tfw the golden age of sonic has long since passed

TreeEater
TreeEater

I'm really hoping this character is a one-off thing. They had the chance to do that with Shadow and it would've made his death so impactful, but they cheapened it by having him return in other games with some half assed excuse about how he survived. Like another user said, the way they did it with Chip would be ideal. I don't know about you guys but I was sad as fuck when he sacrificed himself.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Unleashed will have it's 10th anniversary next year
Jesus, where does the time go? I still remember the hype i felt watching the trailer as a 10 year old and spending a couple hours drawing fanart of the werehog. I even took the time to mail it to SEGA of America (which is kinda dumb in retrospect considering I live on the other side of the country) and they sent a letter back a month later along with a copy of issue #175 in the hopes that it would inspire me to keep drawing. Probably my coolest childhood memory.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

That's actually pretty hilarious if you think about it.

"Oh cool, this guy really like Sonic."
"Let's mail him a comic where Sonic gets his ass kicked, his home burns down, and all of his friends get vaporized."

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I don't know about you guys but I was sad as fuck when he sacrificed himself.

But Chip didn't die. He and Dark Gaia are sleeping. They just wake up once every tens of thousands of years. So they're kinda treated as being dead because we'll probably never see them again outside mobile game cameos like Runners.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Being a Silverfag is fucking suffering.
Tfw he will only appear in spinoff games
The he will never be story relevant again

Booteefool
Booteefool

Character deaths, unless they're in backstory like Maria, never work out in a series like Sonic. If the death has meaning then it means the character is popular enough that there's incentive for the company to bring them back. If they're not popular enough then the death is meaningless. Funny enough, the only way they can get around that is through create-a-character, because then the character has no canon appearance or personality to bring back.

askme
askme

Send fanart to Sega
Get free copy of LIMIT!
Kinda dumb in retrospect
What logic are you running on?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Only reason Shadow came back is because people actually liked him, unlike Chip.

Inmate
Inmate

I meant the fact that I mailed it was dumb. It would've been a lot easier if I just emailed it. They didn't respond for a while month and I was bummed out because I thought they didn't get it

Playboyize
Playboyize

Hey, he shares the same fate as the majority of characters in the games.

Methshot
Methshot

Woah! That must be the Lost Hex! Legends say that every thousand or so years, pieces fall off and land on our world, creating new masses of land and landmarks! But no one has ever seen it before!

WebTool
WebTool

I wanna see Shade again, how do you think I feel? It almost feels like SEGA is intentionally ignoring most of its characters. And most of its IPs as well.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

If the death has meaning then it means the character is popular enough that there's incentive for the company to bring them back.
I'm pretty sure a huge part of Shadow's popularity was BECAUSE he had a meaningful death, not the other way around.
Funny enough, the only way they can get around that is through create-a-character, because then the character has no canon appearance or personality to bring back.
Remind me again why everyone keeps pushing the create-a-character idea when they pretty much confirmed that it's not?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

He is probably connected to why Eggman conquered most of the world.
The question is why did they write the plot in such a way that there is a completely new playable character. By this time they should have learnt that you have to ask fans for permission before pulling such shit.

Illusionz
Illusionz

If everything in SA2 happened the exact same, only after beating Final Hazard both Sonic and Shadow go back to the Ark and Shadow talks about how he remembered Maria's wishes and will now fight to give humanity a chance, he'd be just as popular.

And I'm not saying it'll be a create-a-character, just saying that they could get around the issues with character deaths that way. I don't think the new character will die either.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I wanna see Shade again, how do you think I feel? It almost feels like SEGA is intentionally ignoring most of its characters. And most of its IPs as well.

The difference between us is that Silver starred in a main-series game and there's no legal bullshit holding them back from using him, unlike with Shade. And with Forces being a story that involves time travel, there's even more reason to bring him back as opposed to using a whole new character.

likme
likme

The new character is post-modern Sonic. Also, every game from now on will have his as the protagonist, the Sonic you have now will be history, along with classic Sonic.

Evilember
Evilember

Forces
involving time travel

Actually Classic is from a whole other universe now.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

And no one will care.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I'm pretty sure that's just a marketing gimmick for kids who haven't heard of Classic Sonic before.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Actually Classic is from a whole other universe now.

Since when? Generations established Classic Sonic is a younger Modern Sonic from the past.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I want the stupid chinks to leave this franchise alone.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

don't care about classic sonic at all
get to hear and see cute little Tails again.

He was just so cute in generations

girlDog
girlDog

implying generations is canon

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Only old people have played generations now.

Soft_member
Soft_member

canon
implying implications

Emberburn
Emberburn

It's canon to forces at least, considering the fact that this game is generations 2 in everything but name

Booteefool
Booteefool

Assuming this isn't bait. Why wouldn't it be? And who said Classic Sonic was from another universe?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Generations was a spin-off.

That guy is retarded anyway tho.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I thought Generations was considered to be a "main-series" game. This is the first time I'm hearing it called a spin-off.

Techpill
Techpill

Again, this could be marketing. After all, it's been a while since Generations, and most kids by now have got into the franchise by either Lost World or Boom. Calling him an AU Sonic makes sense for kids who haven't heard of the classic games.

TreeEater
TreeEater

They wouldn't have sent you the comic if it was emailed. Having a letter personally sent to you from their headquarters is a lot cooler than a sentence long reply to an email.

Lunatick
Lunatick

It's only been 5-6 years since generations. And all games since have been Nintendo exclusive. Chill the fuck down m8.

girlDog
girlDog

Well he is in Forces, so there's something I guess

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

And all games since have been Nintendo exclusive.

That's the biggest problem, no kid wants to play on an Nintendo system. So only manchildren have played those games.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Source?

Emberburn
Emberburn

So...If we agree on that, why do you think most kids by now have gotten into the franchise by either Lost World or Generations?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I think Forces will feel more like a mainline title in that unlike Generations the theme isn't "100% nostalgia trip" this time, and the game presumably takes place in Sonic's world rather than a random white void.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Never said I agreed.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Lost world or Boom*

Fuck.

TechHater
TechHater

Whoops, meant to reply to

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

twitter.com/babylonian/status/852298423931854848

MPmaster
MPmaster

unlike Generations the theme isn't "100% nostalgia trip" this time

Don't kid yourself, that first zone we saw Modern Sonic go through will be the only "original" zone. Not counting levels where all you do is fight a boss.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Thinking any new kids have gotten into this series
Especially Boom of all things
Implying the fanbase isn't made up of mostly people who grew up with Sonic

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Maybe Sonic's buddies will work as 'mentors' for your Oc's by completing their missions and getting their gear as an award.

Like Xenoverse

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

We agree that kids don't play Nintendo systems.

I add to that, the fact that 5 years isn't enough for an entire generation of kids to completely forget about Generations, especially when it's the last multi-platform release.

If anything we're in a Melee situation where we have more new people shitposting about Sonic than playing Sonic games, thanks to meme-man and his meme-squad of ebin youtube e-celebs

WebTool
WebTool

We agree that kids don't play Nintendo systems.
......What?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

That's the biggest problem, no kid wants to play on an Nintendo system. So only manchildren have played those games.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Have you ever read YouTube comments?

Plenty of little kids think NINTENDO SHOULD BUY SANIC LOL

King_Martha
King_Martha

They don't. My little 7 year old cousin owns a PS4, my step-sister plays PC, and my step-brother owns multiple Xbox consoles. Nintendo is mostly just for sentimental neckbeards.

Soft_member
Soft_member

He's pulling things out of his ass.

5mileys
5mileys

not him but kids these days only care about being hip, pew die pie, and minecraft

w8t4u
w8t4u

They might express themselves like brain-damaged 10 year olds, but a lot of them are actually college students or older.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Nintendo is probably the only decent console manufacturer left, but is spot-on.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

years ago I thought that might be a good myself and one of the classic-fags.

This was in the mid 00's when sega's treatment of it's mascot of akin to abuse. It would be bad idea now, Nintendo wouldn't give a fuck about sonic if they owned it. we would get one game per console generation if we we lucky. Not to mention I think they wouldn't get sonic and make more games like Lost World.

something I do wonder about though is the amount of money/clout Nintendo has. imagine how well Sonic's reputation would be if the games weren't rushed or mismanaged. Mario and Zelda benefit from being a first party developer.

Playboyize
Playboyize

*years ago I thought that might be a good idea myself and I'm one of the classic-fags.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Any requests?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Knuckles trying not to chuckle.

likme
likme

This with Amy and Honey

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Clove dressed as Velvet from Tales of Berseria

FastChef
FastChef

Why do Adventure fans enjoy bullying Modern fans?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Rotor and Tails nerf gun fight

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Older brother-younger brother relationship

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Vanilla reacting to seeing goatse for the first time.

TreeEater
TreeEater

bullying modern
I thought adventure was modern? or is modern everything post wii generation?

takes2long
takes2long

Oh shit

Emberburn
Emberburn

Modern started with Unleashed. How different the gameplay is and how the fanbase is divided, the Adventure fans are a different sect.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Tails asking Sonic where Aunt Sally went

Techpill
Techpill

i thought modern was anything post 06? after all, games like secret rings don't seem to fit into the adventure group

Skullbone
Skullbone

Now this is podracing

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Tails teaches you how to fly
Knuckles teaches you how to climb walls
Amy gives you a hammer
Shadow gives you chaos powers
Could be neat.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Nigga that'd make you the most OP mary-sue character ever

TreeEater
TreeEater

Do I count as classicfag if my first experiences with Sonic were classic games played in early 00s on Gens emulator? Never had a console from 4th generation actually. Or from 5th. And my 6th generation console is Dreamcast bought in 2006.

SniperWish
SniperWish

I have a perfect design for this character.

cum2soon
cum2soon

This.
-One playable character
-slippery controls
-no chao garden

DeathDog
DeathDog

You can only have two abilities enabled at once. This prevents your character from being broken but allows you to make fun combos by mixing and matching different abilities. (Think Sonic Advance 3)

Bidwell
Bidwell

So apparently people are complaining about sonic forces already. What's the problem?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Everything Classic Sonic

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Vlassic Sonic

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Eggman smiling behind an Archie Comics desk.
"You won't have to worry about that rodent problem anymore!"

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

It looks like a worse version of game they bought in 2011.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

He did stir up quite a pickle.

Supergrass
Supergrass

You are a fag of whatever games you prefer.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

a franchise that originally defined itself based on properly retaining momentum shouldn't have controls and physics that retain momentum

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

For Adventure fags, Boost.
For Modern fags, Classic.
That and the majority of it is just bitching/making half assed assumptions about a game that we barely know anyhting about. Or in /sthg/'s case, shitposting because the thread isn't moving fast enough.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Why not Both?

youtube.com/watch?v=XBZgk8gJc6g

WebTool
WebTool

For Classic fag, Classic. What we've seen of Classic Forces so far looks like early 00s cereal box game trash compared to Mania.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Utopia shitposting
not even the webm

cum2soon
cum2soon

Generations did put 06 in the modern era, but that was fairly arbitrary. 06 plays a lot more like the Adventure games than even Heroes does, and it shares more with those games' stories than it does with the Unleashed an later games.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Shade not being around has less to do with Sega ignoring her, and more to do with the whole legal bullshit that Ken Penders started when he accused them of ripping off his story elements from the comic (whole civilization of echidnas that live in other dimension, plus one female who's hinted as future love interest for Knuckles).

Spamalot
Spamalot

I know I'm gonna get shit for this but I don't really care how classic sonic is gonna play, I just want that sweet 3D boost gameplay.

idontknow
idontknow

Utopia is NOTHING LIKE MODERN SONIC

SniperGod
SniperGod

Anyone up for some sonic vidya?

juicebox.dj/videogames

StonedTime
StonedTime

What happen to the comics anyway?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Put on indefinite hiatus, but recent leaks and changes to creators' social media accounts indicate that the Archie comics are cancelled.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Brutal, sucks the comic industry has been on a downward spiral.

girlDog
girlDog

You'd think the amount of money they're blowing on the comic films and "Nerd Culture" would make all the comics sell a bit more.

Unpopular opinions
Superhero Comics in general had their spotlight and are now being made by people who just want to spool money out of it by giving it to whichever new writer comes in with whatever awful story they want to push.
They expect you to read almost fucking everything and the people who read comics will guffaw when you missed a panel from Wonder Woman's adopted red head stepdaughter's sister's brothers boy Issue 5 about an offhand comment about Batman.

But that retardation is only rivalled by the popular nerd culture who overhype awfully written films.

Guardians 1 + 2 don't count they're fucking incredible.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2 and Deadpool are the only good capeshit movies because they perfectly capture the sillyness of the comic book medium.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Shade is hinted as future love interest for Knuckles
But he has Tikal. By the way, whe are we seing her again?

eGremlin
eGremlin

How did the story end?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Tikal isn't a love interest, and never.

Skullbone
Skullbone

You'll keep getting omochao and you'll like it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS!

cum2soon
cum2soon

I can agree to that.
I'm incredibly sad Guardians and Avengers will meet up, I can't stand everything being the Tony Stark show.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I want a sonic girl to snuggle with.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Would you accept an Amy kiss, /sthg/?

Bidwell
Bidwell

Nah

Playboyize
Playboyize

black housemaid
Is this real?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Yup, its from the sonic x comic.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

The characters are from Sonic X but the comic posted is a fan comic.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I thought she was hispanic?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Chronologically, it ended with Sonic and Chip fixing the world and stopping Eggman and Dark Gaia, concluding the Shattered World Crisis Saga. The Sky Patrol is still in the ocean though (and Nicole doesn't have a handheld anymore) but I guess that was supposed to be sorted out later.

The last few issues were part of Genesis of a Hero, which were some anniversary stories based on Sonic 1, Sonic 2, and Sonic CD. After that there was going to be one for Sonic 3, followed by some issues about Mighty, Antoine, and Bunnie, among others.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Without hesitation!

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Why do you like Sonic?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Gross, no.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

He fast

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Hey guys its me Ian Flynn and I love lasagna!

viagrandad
viagrandad

Get outta here, faker.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

He's blue

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Should Amy just give up on Sonic? I personally don't want her to but what's the point if she can never get with him. I guess she's supposed to be determined but ultimately all I see heartbreak coming her way.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

It's fucking Goku Day, you cunt.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Not on my watch.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Faker? I think you're the fake Ian Flynn around here. You don't even love lasagna

FastChef
FastChef

I'm surprised she never baked him chili dogs.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Nope. Just have their interactions be more like the comic.

Does Amy even know how to cook?

askme
askme

She'll give up on him for sure when he loses to Eggman in Forces!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

youtube.com/watch?v=FOuF0U8FSiw

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

You can be both...

likme
likme

I wouldn't be surprised if everyone gives up on Sonic in Forces and they only accept him again at the end of the game after he proves that he's still a hero by beating Eggman again

Evilember
Evilember

Excellent.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Let it out, Chuckles

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

A shame about the comic. But hey, at least we've got this to look forward to, right?

I don't give a fuck what any of you say. You're going to miss the comic once this shitshow of a "novel" eventually gets published.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Given that there's apparently radio chatter in the city level, what would it take for Sonic's friends to lose faith in him asides from just not being there to save the day?

Supergrass
Supergrass

That's all it'd really take. They like him because he's a hero. If he fails to stop Eggman, that doesn't make him a good hero, does it?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

That's never going to come out.

TechHater
TechHater

Poor Sonic's going to find himself all alone like in Lost World again.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Wait, I missed it. Has there been an announcement yet?

WebTool
WebTool

You're going to miss the comic once this shitshow of a "novel" eventually gets published.
I think it is more likely that people will shit on the comics even more by equating them to this.

From the writer of the Archie Sonic comics...
I can't believe comic fans actually like this shit
This is what happens when you let OCs take over
I can see it already.

TreeEater
TreeEater

bleedingcool.com/2017/05/09/archie-comics-still-not-talking-about-cancellation-of-sonic-the-hedgehog/

UPDATE: Hang about! No sooner had we published than an Archie Comics spokesperson told us “We are aware of the questions regarding Sonic. Archie and SEGA are in communication and we hope to have some news soon. We thank the fans for their patience.”

Published 6 hours ago.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

She's dead user

Spamalot
Spamalot

Fuck that possessive leech.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

SWEET NEPTUNE SHE'S NAKED!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I don't see them doing a better job.

story will be like Lost World
ohno.iso

Firespawn
Firespawn

I don't see them doing a better job.
That's not the point. The point is, at least to them, Sonic should've been able to stop him, but he didn't

RumChicken
RumChicken

a new hedgehog

Doubt it. They'd fucking be plastering him over every possible piece of merchandise there is, not waiting for a reveal. Fuck, he would have been revealed at the sonic party just so they could build him up.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Wouldn't those be somewhat smart decisions? Sega isn't too fond of those.

Emberburn
Emberburn

If there's one thing Sega can do right, it's marketing.

WebTool
WebTool

W-hat is this Mickey Mouse shit?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Reminder that the deer sisters were saved from otherwise-inevitable tragedy by the cancellation of the comic.

Evilember
Evilember

I like some of the ideas from the Sonic OVA. Sonic's World should have a sky world too and that's where the mobians come from.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

sonegg the eggnog

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

3rd character revealed?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

It does have a sky world, it's called the Lost Hex.

Bidwell
Bidwell

But that's a entire planet and nobody cares about Lost World.

farquit
farquit

What was the general reception of Heroes when it first came out? Genuinely curious

TreeEater
TreeEater

"Meh"

TechHater
TechHater

Angel Island.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Just one island.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

As a PC player, I was euphoric.

Skullbone
Skullbone

B-but...my pronghorn sufferinggggggggg

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The real suffering is that they will never get their happy ending.

farquit
farquit

It's still fucking nothing.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Implying

DeathDog
DeathDog

youtu.be/MDZf5nvr66w
Lost World's Japanese script is much more tolerable than ours.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

youtube.com/watch?v=kgW-FP8ResA
So is Colors'

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Anyone been to /sth/ recently?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

No because who gives a shit?

Methshot
Methshot

I hope Forces gives us an option to switch to Japanese voices once again, Kanemaru is infinitely less grating than any English VA for Sonic.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I am going to riot if they don't.

girlDog
girlDog

I hope Forces gives us an option to switch to Japanese voices once again
Why wouldn't they?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Would he be a better villain than Eggman?

farquit
farquit

Kanemaru is good, but Ryan Drummond was great as well

Emberburn
Emberburn

You should, it will releive some of the infighting here and give people a whole board to post on instead of 1 topic. I even changed the rules to be less strict.

Rules:
1. Keep threads on topic
2. Only Sonic Related porn is allowed, porn has to be spoilered in the OP
3. Keep OC/Fanfics to 1 thread
4. Global Rules Apply

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

He would have already conquered the world. Faster than the speed of sound.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Also its nsfw and you can post up to 5 images or webms at a time

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

They always have for the past decade or so. We should be fine.

IIRC, did Lost World have 5 language optiins like Gens did?

takes2long
takes2long

I feel those two basically nailed the laid-back aspect of Sonic's personality, if only because they sound so alike.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Someone edit this to relate to the comics

Skullbone
Skullbone

Eggman's just not that good.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I played it last night, and yes it does have those options for voice and text.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Hold on, what? I played it on PC and there wasn't.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Nah, Drummond was too try-hard, like he was reading for a toy commercial or something.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Is it wrong that I want to marry Sally?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

After reading the link on the comic situation, did Archie claim these same things with Penders? Their defense makes a lot of sense, like the passage of time for example. I don't remember hearing any of that in the Penders case. If that made no difference then, then why would it now?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

said as all of the creatives on the comic are scrubbing their association with Archie
Lying out both sides of their damn mouth.

SniperWish
SniperWish

I have the PAL version on Wii U. It definitely has options for 6 different languages for both voice and text, including English and Japanese. i double checked just now for you

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Well, you could always make an unofficial continuation, like what the British did for the Fleetway comic, and what's been happening for the pre-reboot Archie continuity since the reboot.

But then you'd have to collectively choose whether to have pronghorn suffering or pronghorn happiness.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Fuck off, Drummond was literally perfect in Heroes

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

what the british did for Fleetway
say what?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Don't start.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Yes, there's a fanmade continuation of the Fleetway Sonic comic.

Emberfire
Emberfire

He has the voice, but the acting was far too hammy.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

[Deleted]

Bidwell
Bidwell

What happened to /fast/?
Also, it'd be nice to make banners for them if they weren't so dead and the site wasn't so awful.

Playboyize
Playboyize

it's been 7 years already since the switch to the current cast
Man, that first reaction to Roger only felt like the other day.

Roger also had the same problem with those voice clips he did for that Sonic themed hotel room all those years ago. He's come a long way since then. Even Colours sounds noticeably different to what he is now.

Inmate
Inmate

/fast/ is still around but it's just dead.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

It really doesn't feel like he's been around that long.

Actually, is he the longest tenured English VA for Sonic?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Why would I want to vomit all over the mona lisa?

Firespawn
Firespawn

how did those megadrive comics do? did they do well in terms of sales?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Kanemaru is only good now because unlike any of the English cast he's had almost 20 years of experience doing the role. He was just as cringy in the Adventure games to anyone who understands Japanese. And now he's 54 so he falls under the same thing that people criticize Roger for which is being too old to voice Sonic. Like I said, he's gotten the voice down since he's had all that experience, but people don't seem to understand how much of a difference experience and good voice direction can make on voice acting.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I live my life quarter chili dog at a time

Firespawn
Firespawn

It got rave reviews as the best 3D Sonic yet. Yet for some reason everyone hates in retrospect now.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Ryan Drummond went from 1998-2005
Jason Griffith was 2006-2010

The first issue did huge sales, but after that, it was no different from the other comics.

happy_sad
happy_sad

God no! I don't want the notorious fanartists to be anywhere near a Archie Sonic continuation!

Flameblow
Flameblow

Jaleel White: 1993-1999, six years
Ryan Drummond: 1999-2004, five years
Jason Griffith: 2003-2009, six years
Roger Craig Smith: 2010-2017, seven years
Yep.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Nothing did, this idiot is just being a faggot.

That being said, you're not wrong.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Who here remember co+?

SniperWish
SniperWish

That used to be kind of a given for games, but very few give you the option for Japanese voices anymore.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Because Roger didn't voice Sonic in as many games as Griffith in a shorter period.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Try not being such a fuckwit then?

I do! I was there for several of Flynn's visits. Good times.

Pretty mixed. By that time "Sonic's Stupid Friends" syndrome had started setting in.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Interesting, doesn't feel as long. Maybe due to what said.

Seems like he's having fun with it and will stay as Sonic for a long time. Which is nice to have a consistent VA for Sonic.

Lunatick
Lunatick

That was 30 years ago user. SEGA is owned and run by another company. They merely exists as a shell.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

So how would you end the archie comic, /sthg/? we're not going to get an official ending so anyone's here would be just as good but not better than Flynn's should he make one .

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What is this magical company called?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Sammy Corp.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Eggman kills them all. The end.

WebTool
WebTool

Eggman kills the Freedom Fighters

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Because memes

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

They whole cast gets together and say it's been fun folks. The end.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I- I still feel like it ended at #200. They defeated Eggman. There's also the future stories, new freedom fighters, all that.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Final Issue
Freedom Fighters are finally began to disband and talk about their fond memories with each other and their plans after that
Suddenly Eggman appears riding Egg Beater Mrk 2
FF's decided to battle against him together for one last time.
The Comic ends with The FF & Knuckles fighting a giant Eggman Mech with both Sonic and Eggman saying "LET'S DO-IT TO IT"
>>After the wide spread
a Genesis portal suddenly opens in green hill zone
a shadowy figure enters from the portal
"It's Show time!"
Scourge the Hedgehog Returns!
ends in a cliffhanger

>The final nail in the coffin to trigger Penders
>Archie finally dies from lawsuit shenanigans and bankruptcy

massdebater
massdebater

It kind of ended though. Sonic defeated Eggman for the time being and Dark Gaia was stopped. It's not like Archie died right in the middle of an important story arc. The last actual plot-thing was the conclusion of Unleashed.

girlDog
girlDog

It was the first cross console Sonic game so it was very big for Sonic. I remember the "EB Games" near me having a promotion where if you returned 3 games you could get Heroes at a discount.

It wasn't until later that I realized what a fucking shitty deal that was.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Personally as much as I love Drummond, those story book games, as polarizing as the game play was, with Jason cemented him as my favorite Sonic VA.

King_Martha
King_Martha

That's a pretty awful deal, even if the game wasn't Heroes.

takes2long
takes2long

It hasn't aged well. Also most people remember the PS2 version, which has aged the worst.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Wily accidentally leans on an inconsequential button back at home
White flash happens in Sonic's world
EGGMAN WHAT DID YOU D-
Wily shrugs and continues working on Dr. Xavier's plan.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Went there before coming to Veeky Forums

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

SA1 has aged even worse than Heroes. In fact Adventure 1 was rough around the edges even when it came out. Yes people remember that one quite fondly.

likme
likme

You see a lot of people shit in both adventure games nowadays.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

SA1 has dreamcast nostalgia and a thicker storyline.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I think it isn't far fetched to say that most people that played Adventure did so on either the Gamecube or the PC.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

SA1
storyline
Eggman finds a monster and tries to use it to take over the world.
Sonic beats up Eggman.
Later the monster gets out of control and Sonic beats it up too.

Wow what a story.

Inmate
Inmate

That's as good as it gets with Sonic games.

askme
askme

Hey, was right

likme
likme

what about seeing tails crash into emerald coast?
what about saving amy?
what about fishing with big?
what about emerald hunting with knux?
or shooting shit with gamma?
did you forget the chao gardens?

That's a pretty barebones review of SA1, user. For its time, and hardware, it was a good solid weekend of vidya, plus more for the completionists wanting those 180 emblems.

5mileys
5mileys

Ian Flynn

Stop toying with me.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

To be fair, that's still better than what most of the later games try to do.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

It took me probably a month or 2 as a kid to beat that game and I never could finish the Big stages.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Dreamcast fans used to be vocal though. SA1 was the last true Sonic game. Heroes, and SA2 to lesser extent, were newgen stuff.

Moar than heroes, you kinda described heroes storyline actually.

I feel like when people say they want SA3, they actually mean the thick story, not the varied gameplay.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

The only REAL games are the games I grew up
Get a ucking grip

happy_sad
happy_sad

Not my sonic

FastChef
FastChef

Adventure is the first game that tells a story cinematic-ally. It's also the first game where the story is a little more mature and dark. Sonic CD was dark too but the average child wouldn't have read between the lines enough to really grasp it.

askme
askme

SA1 is probably the 3D title that feels the most like classic stages brought into a 3D world. Despite the fact that it was the first attempt at Sonic being in the real world, it still has a very cartoonish art style.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

It could've been for Metal Gear Solid 3 and it'd still be a shitty deal.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Forces story seems like it's going to be pretty thicc.

Spamalot
Spamalot

you mean the 'chinks' that fucking created it? they're actually nips btw

Bidwell
Bidwell

Griffith also did Sonic X which was 2003 and Shadow the Hedgehog which was 2005. That's why it felt like such a long time

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Yeah. I wonder what Pontaff shitposters think now that Forces has a darker story.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I'm just hoping they won't fuck it up like they did with Lost World

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

This really doesn't matter since Boost is now a definite Gameplay staple for 3D Sonics.

all it needs now is more playable Friends that isn't an alternative Sonic, and the new guy for forces is a start.

likme
likme

Jason Griffith will always be my favorite

iluvmen
iluvmen

New character's name is Boost

Emberfire
Emberfire

But user, he has a different gameplay style. That means he's bad.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

It's ironic that the shortest one was the best.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

But RCS is the longest

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I agree, wish he had more than just the one OVA.

MPmaster
MPmaster

spending a couple hours drawing fanart of the werehog
I even took the time to mail it to SEGA of America
sent a letter back a month later along with a copy of issue #175

175 was published May 2007, and according to Wikipedia: "The title was first brought to public attention when the Sonic Unleashed name was trademarked by Sega on March 12, 2008"

Something doesn't add up.

Methshot
Methshot

They had extra copies of that issue and figured they'd get rid of them? What's not adding up?

farquit
farquit

I guess now it feels lacking compared to most sonic games due to the small number of stages that get tweaked a bit in order to cover the gameplay of all the teams. The simple story doesn't help either...

takes2long
takes2long

Most 3D sonic games to be precise*

TreeEater
TreeEater

For anyone whining about how Sonic shouldn't be dark. I would argue that there has always been a somewhat darker aspect to Sonic. Using innocent little animals to power machines and destroy nature to build toxic factories is more serious than the more fairy tale like story of Mario, save the the princess from the evil dragon. And if you want an example of dark Sonic pre Dreamcast era, look no further than Sonic CD. There's nothing wrong with a more serious Sonic, I think people just associate the darker games with shit because of the comical way it was portrayed in Shadow.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Why do people have problems with ShTH's story anyway?

takes2long
takes2long

He gives you the illusion of multiple paths just to give you a last, true ending.

TechHater
TechHater

ShTH
Sonic Hedgehog The Hedgehog?

SegaSonic Hedgehog The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles & Knuckles

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

All of the paths are shallow because they're 6 levels per run, there's no proper build to any of them because your level selection can go all over the place, almost all of them are generic and amount to 10-year-old FF.net writing, and all of them are completely irrelevant because the last story overrides all of them.

Spamalot
Spamalot

what does he mean by this?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I'm guessing Sonic Team thought the endings would feel satisfying at the moment you were seeing them.

girlDog
girlDog

I really need to play Shadow. I'm going to see if I can emulate it.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Yeah, that's why it was so full of shit.

SniperWish
SniperWish

"I am a gigantic faggot please rape my face."

I love how his tweets get two or three likes tops.

WebTool
WebTool

He's completely right, but in the exact opposite way he thinks he is.

Bidwell
Bidwell

The game would've been a lot more tolerable if you just played all the levels in a single playthrough with the final ending being based on how many of each mission you did.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I wanted the series to succeed
So that's why I threw a bitchfit after Chronicles, went to court for my Donuts and set the comic back a couple times.
Now the comic is dead.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Imagine a world where Sonic 06 wasn't rushed, and got amazing critical reception from everyone. I think that if it did, we would have gotten Sonic games that were similar to it. We could have gotten a Sonic the Hedgehog 2. 06 was like a next gen Adventure 1, the hypothetical game I'm talking about could be a next gen Adventure 2. The art design and gameplay style was forgotten but I feel like if it didn't get the extremely negative criticism that it did, we would have continued getting games in that same aesthetic and style. We wouldn't have games like Unleashed, Colors and Generations. Rather we would have had more ambitious games, akin to 06. The criticism that 06 got made Sonic Team drop and change everything. Which is a shame, because I think it would have been interesting as fuck to see more games in that art style that 06 had. I rambled for a bit but I hope you lot got what I was trying to portray.

girlDog
girlDog

Baldy McFuckHair piece of shit fat fuck

RumChicken
RumChicken

It's like he's trying to push the blame for that on Archie or something.

Is the guilt hitting him or something?

TreeEater
TreeEater

I disagree. We might have slowly made our way around to the boost formula but I think Sega would have continued to be careless and rush Sonic out the door had 06 not been a slap in the face that it was. 06 would have led to a worse future for Sonic.

Booteefool
Booteefool

*a good 06 would have led to a worse future.

I don't think it would have ever been received well by the public. Passable maybe.

Techpill
Techpill

That nigga has brain problems. His art for the comics wasn't even that bad. But the shit he's doing now looks like a parody it's so hilariously bad.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Fix up the glitches and load times and you pretty much have a Adventure title for (what was at the time) next gen consoles. If you dislike 06 but adore Adventure 1 and 2, you are a dumb hypocritical bastard in every sense of the word.

SniperGod
SniperGod

There is no fucking way you can have this little self-awareness. That's the kind of perfectly worded double-entendre you would only see on some sitcom. I can't believe this is real.

I agree that certain elements of 06 not responsible for its shittiness or still with potential, like hub worlds and characters other than Sonic, might have still existed in Sonic games had 06 been better.

I think we'd still get boost and Sonic-only games as well, though. Many games before 06 focused only on Sonic, and boost seems like a natural progression to appeal to "going fast". You can even see what I'd argue is the beginning of boost in 06's mach speed sections where you go faster than normal but can't slow down. The majority consider Sonic games as "games where you go fast", streamlining levels and making Sonic faster was bound to happen sooner or later.

Not saying that Boost is good or bad, that's not an argument I want to get in. Just saying that I think we'd be getting Boost or something very similar no matter how past games were received. If 06 was good and the history of the franchise dramatically altered I think we would still get Sonic-only games and Boost, but that wouldn't be everything we get.

farquit
farquit

Hey friends. You up for a draw and vidya stream tonight

Illusionz
Illusionz

Fix up the glitches and load times and you pretty much have a Adventure title for (what was at the time) next gen consoles.
Maybe if it also had more content and a different story.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Hell to the fuck no.

Techpill
Techpill

TLSC
Published
K.

Hm, now that I think about it, maybe Penders' plan is:
sell pre-orders
NEVER deliver on them at all
wait for people to sue
get his (wife's) lawyers to counter-sue
????
Profit! Hard!

Like most of what Penders does, it won't work cus no one will pre-order, I'm just speculating that he *thinks* this will work.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Would it be Merry-o vidya?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Sure why not

girlDog
girlDog

Who the fuck keeps making these 300-reply "ARCHIE SONIC IS DEAD" posts on /co/? Imagine the fucking confusion if it miraculously recovers.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

What did you post?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

wasn't even that bad
Are you high on acid? He would copy/paste a page worth of panels and use stock photos from Google Images for backgrounds. If he *wasn't* the worst, he was in the top three, along with Many Hands and Ron Lim.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

that sameface "artist" with squashed anatomy
Only Hayakain is worse.
those images Hayakain did for the before and after improvement deviantart meme
Instant comedy gold!

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I actually liked Sonic Chronicles for the gameplay and the silly story. All the lore in the files really showed that the team working on it actually played the other games. I wish they could've continued.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I'd be down

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

All the lore in the files really showed that the team working on it actually played the other games.
Please tell me you're joking.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

It wasn't very good, by any means, all I am saying is that they put heart into it and I appreciate that.

idontknow
idontknow

All right, all right, it's well-known that Classicfags hate story, we get it already.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Alright I can see that, just glad you didn't say you enjoyed the music outside the battle theme for the first few times.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Yeah. I really liked Tails the Fox's role in helping both Sonic and the player in the beginning. It's a clever way to display all the useless dialogue options that don't change anything whatsoever.

WebTool
WebTool

Merry-o is gey

picarto.tv/GeekofLove
Be on in 5

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

The state of that thread

Why is it that everytime a Sonic thread on /co/ or /v/ is made, it's filled with people who have no goddamn clue what the fuck they're talking about?

WebTool
WebTool

/co/ or /v/

Well golly gee gosh

Rude!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I don't hate story. I hate Chronicles' story, because the writers clearly put no thought into the characters or their interactions. You can't even say that it's up to the writers to decide what the characters are, because this was written by Bioware with approval from Sega of America. I'd be surprised if Sega of Japan even knew about this game before it released in the States.

Evilember
Evilember

den of Tumblr or hive of shitposters
Couldn't hazard a guess, user.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Sega of Japan cares about story and characters

stop

iluvmen
iluvmen

What is /sthg/'s opinion on AkumaTH and the other countless sprite webcomics?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

No, you idiot. I meant the in-game files. Did you actually played the game? It had this codex where they put all the lore, it not only accurately summarized SA 1 and 2, but also tied in the stories to the game's very neatly. They used and referenced very obscure aspects of SA1's story which is how the setting is built up.

Music was a sad thing, specially when I caught on to the fact that they were supposed to be remixes of other songs and I would have rather them using the Genesis songs instead.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Shit. InSonicnia is the only one I like.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Never heard of em.

Supergrass
Supergrass

They clearly care somewhat, otherwise they wouldn't rewrite the lines in Colors or Lost World.

youtube.com/watch?v=kgW-FP8ResA
youtube.com/watch?v=MDZf5nvr66w

Methnerd
Methnerd

It is impossible to dissociate the fandom and the autism it generates at this point, is it not?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Oh, the codex. Well, it is nice that they tried to make an SA1 continuation (with references to Battle and Advance 3), but I just wish they didn't end it on a cliffhanger. Or have a credits sequence that jacks off Bioware.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I won't say embrace it, but getting used to it will at least lower how much stress it puts on you whenever it comes up.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I've been trying to do that for a decade and it still aggravating as always.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Not much different from this place

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

it will at least lower how much stress
Bitch, after the Penders problem we had with the comics, I don't think any autism will ever top that.

Just thinking that a mediocre comic fanfiction writer in the guise of a comic book artist got the actual motherfucking rights to part of the franchise gives me headaches.

I just wish they didn't end it on a cliffhanger.
I am pretty sure they wanted to work on a sequel but it got canned
Or have a credits sequence that jacks off Bioware.
honestly I am more bothered by how they made a romance between Sonic and Amy a thing. That's not how it works you pieces of shit.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I've yet to see someone in /sthg/ try to claim that Amy, of all characters, is a Mary-Sue.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Only ever cared about InSONICnia and Power Rings.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Sounds like something Boco or a shitposter here from 2 years ago might say, if it's the former then:
Caring what Boco and his giant Amy-hate boner has to say

Illusionz
Illusionz

Have you heard the story behind Chronicles chronic music problems? It's actually kinda sad

Flameblow
Flameblow

I don't know it in full, I just know they had a good OST prepared but they had to scrap it on the last second, but I do not recall why.

King_Martha
King_Martha

On now. Playing some old Sonic Flash Games then either Request or Sonic Animation stuff.. maybe

SniperWish
SniperWish

I'm thirsty for milk. Anyone else?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Banned

Inmate
Inmate

Not even spoilered
Later senpai

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Anyone?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

It wasn't Boco.

Say goodbye to user, everybody!

Emberburn
Emberburn

Wow what a Mary Sue

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

This is such a shitty fetish.

farquit
farquit

Nice knowing ya, user. Off to the roboticizer with you.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Ravnic
Poor guy is FORCED to draw these things because of those mean horny commissioners! Such wasted talent, just like the true master of all art TheCon! What poor souls!

iluvmen
iluvmen

Man, shitposters try everything these days huh? Tryhards.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx


Press F to pay respects to user before his ban.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

No thanks.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Would you play a Sonic Action RPG with Kingdom Hearts gameplay and Chris as the protagonist?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Ravnicposting isn't new and it usually leads into actual discussion.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Literally how aren't you banned yet

Spamalot
Spamalot

Responding should also be a bannable offense

takes2long
takes2long

Nice knowin' ya. That aside, will we see any mother's day pics this year?

TechHater
TechHater

I don't want a power ranking. Just tell me one name.

What is your all time favorite Sonic game?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

drat. I was really thirsty. I could've used a nice glass of milk.

5mileys
5mileys

Unlike text-based shitposting, which hardly ever goes away, porn-based shitposting is almost a guaranteed ban so responding has little to no consequences.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

SA2:B

Bidwell
Bidwell

Probably SA2:B

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Sonic Generations

Firespawn
Firespawn

Asking this immediately after someone posts a ton of lactation fetish art

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Sonic adventure or sonic unleashed

hairygrape
hairygrape

Unleashed. Give me your salt.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Goddamn. Mods were fast!

Kinda wanted more Whore Rouge.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Sonic Colors.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Sonic Generations

Supergrass
Supergrass

Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

SA1.

Bidwell
Bidwell

So just any Rouge? I don't understand the character isn't banned is she?

Sonic World______

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Archie comics canned
Forces looking bad and pissing everyone off
Mania having oldfag levels

so long as they keep the oldfag levels to a minimum I can't see how Mania could possibly fail unless they do something stupid like tying the plot into Forces, or having Amy Rose be in the game. Sonic's on his way back to finally being respected again.

Booteefool
Booteefool

forces looking bad
There has been like 2 trailers. I don't think it's fair to judge it so early

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

pissing everyone off

I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to Forces. And Amy in Mania would make the game even better, desu.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Someone was posting porn pics of Rouge as a stripper.

SniperWish
SniperWish

SA2B

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Rush/Rush Adventure

iluvmen
iluvmen

Not him but I think Amy could harm the game if mandatory, like, if story mode has a couple levels where you need to play as her. There are people who will take every opportunity to shit on a Sonic game, especially if playing as someone other than Sonic, and the faster paced iconic gameplay to take a break for playing as Amy (really any other character but especially Amy), however short or fun that period is, is going to get those meme reviews firing and piss people off. If it is an optional thing I don't think it would negatively impact the game or its reception, though.

idontknow
idontknow

Sonic 2

hairygrape
hairygrape

People are tired of the boost to win gameplay of modern sonic especially since his boost just makes the game a half assed effort to keep Sonic moving, it's like a race track and there's very little to stop Sonic anyway because the few attacks you get from the bots are very very easy to dodge and with all the boosts and springs throwing you to where Sonic needs to be it's more like holding a button and watching the game play itself with boost Sonic now, not to mention the boring hallway and straightway design of his levels to further accomidate the boost gimmick and finally, there's there's the usual "trail of enemies homing attack" pattern that's been plaguing Sonic games since Sonic Adventure 1.

Classic Sonic's music and gameplay has somehow managed to be even worse than he was in generations, how is that possible? It's almost like the slapped Classic Sonic in out of sheer laziness and an attempt to bring back the crowd who liked him in generations even moreso after I learned the nips forced classic stages into Mania because their plugged ear asses think that's the only way to sell a game with sonic in it now.
How? Amy has never been playable in that style before so they'd have to create an entire new model for her and of course that model would have to avoid showing her panties not to piss off the SJWs, liberals and conservatives, way to much trouble than it's worse. Finally, Amy isn't popular to the people they're selling Mania to, not once has anybody who likes the classics ever bitched about lack of Amy. The real reason to be pissed off is if Mania doesn't include Metal Sonic in anyway.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I haven't refreshed the page on my laptop, so I can still see it.

eugh

Booteefool
Booteefool

meme reviews firing and piss people off

To be fair, those people would look for literally any reason to shit on a Sonic game, regardless. There's no point in trying to appease to those kind of people.

Amy has never been playable in that style before

And? The best thing about the way the Genesis games handled characters is that they made their core gameplay similar to Sonic's, with small differences to make them stand out.

not once has anybody who likes the classics ever bitched about lack of Amy.

You can't really speak for all Classicfags. I loved the classics & I'm hyped for Mania, but I'm disappointed by a lack of Amy.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I was thinking that the character could be categorized into speed, flight, power, "technical" ability types, each with their own move selections, with the "technical" ability type based on stuff like Amy's and Silver's movesets and stuff like that.

As a Speed character you could perform homing attacks, light dashes, and other moves focused on plowing through enemies and getting to the end of the level quickly

As a Fly type, your combat would become more indirect and tricky, but you'd have better ways of moving about the level and exploring, potentially avoiding conflict entirely

Power types would have a bit less mobility, but could open their own routes by breaking through walls and such. Naturally, they'd also thrive in combat scenarios, and would take out waves of enemies more easily than the other types

Technical types would have unique skills of their own that could be seen as a fusion of the other three types, but would probably be more of a departure from traditional Sonic gameplay, like Amy in Sonic Advance 1. perhaps they'd rely on a weapon of sorts, or could use a projectile attack instead of simply charging into enemies

thoughts?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Don't make me choose

Bidwell
Bidwell

I play through most of SA2:B twice a year.

Most of the other big games like Sonic 3 & Knuckles I'll play with no complaint at all, but SA2:B is something I feel compelled to play.

SA1 has the best atmosphere, though. I like to replay it just to wander the overworld.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

CD. First game I ever played.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Some good taste in here.
I didn't know SA2 was so popular.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Basically the composer left near the end of the project, taking all the music assets with him. So they had to basically had to rush the entire OST to get the game out in time.

Lunatick
Lunatick

HOW?!

eGremlin
eGremlin

The modern stage of Forces looks great. Green Hill looks underwhelming. That's the only thing that concerns me so far. The context of the stage makes it a little more interesting but the layout is bland.

girlDog
girlDog

Hold up, did anyone cap this guy's post before he got banned? Or would posting a cap be just as illegal?

Evilember
Evilember

not having Veeky Forums X
in $CURRENT_YEAR

girlDog
girlDog

mania doesn't need Amy because she was never playable
mania should have metal sonic a character that was never playable in the 2D games
The things you like are bad, here have the things I like.

hold down boost and win the game
People who use this argument have clearly never played a boost game

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I'm pretty sure posting a cap showing what he posted would get you banned. You could check fireden, though.

Nojokur
Nojokur

It's my favorite 3D title too, I just though most people preferred SA1 to it.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Sonic and Knuckles

viagrandad
viagrandad

Far too much effort for shit

Inmate
Inmate

Never heard if it til now, thanks for the reference

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

SA2 was by no means my first Sonic game (that goes to SA1 on Dreamcast), but it was a Sonic game that came out on Nintendo's super duper neat lunch box shaped console. Plus, it was also a console with multiple Sonic collection games on it, so the Gamecube was a real good way to enter the fandom (Am I allowed to use that word?).

There are few games in the series I honestly dislike (Shuffle plays like ass, and Gamegear games minus Tails's games aren't very fun), but SA2 I keep coming back to.

DeathDog
DeathDog

It's fun, and SA1 is held back by Big's stages and Amy's stages could've been better.

takes2long
takes2long

I can understand why you'd think that, considering the amount of attention SA1 has increasingly garnered over the past year or two. But it's always been SA2 this, SA2 that.

Heh, I already know that, I was just asking how he didn't know it was popular.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I am really out of the loop. I averted my eyes for what feels like a moment and there is now some guy named Roger.

FastChef
FastChef

Must have averted your eyes for 7 whole years.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Penders announced on his Twitter account that his characters were no longer echidna but Echyd'nya, an alien species. Penders stated reasons for the change was the difficulty he has seen with people pronouncing the word echidna.
Is this some american joke?

Methshot
Methshot

SA1 has the best atmosphere, though. I like to replay it just to wander the overworld.
Same. The adventure field gets a lot of hate but I like most of the areas (except the maze). Being able to walk from one stage to another always reminded me of S3&K where every stage had you 'travel' or at least transition to the next one, like falling down into Hydrocity from Angel Island or the first act of Sandopolis being outside but then you beat the miniboss and go inside the pyramid for the second act. I love that shit. Actually watching Sonic go from one place to another makes the game feel much more cohesive

Emberburn
Emberburn

No, Penders is just from an alternate dimension where your social status is determined by how fucking absurd you can be before somebody physically assaults you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Most people probably pronounce the "ch" in echidna like "cheese" and flip the d and n.
uh-chin-duh

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Why not have a glossary of word meanings and pronunciations instead? You know fucking LSC is gonna have a glossary.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Why is she so perfect?

Inmate
Inmate

Wandering around in the Mystic Ruins forest at the second part of the song with the whistling takes me to a very calm and happy place. Especially when it's night time in the game.
I hate to use the term but it makes me feel euphoric.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

no pan

RumChicken
RumChicken

When has she ever shown an inclination to cook?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Yeah I think the world hub is what puts SA1 in front ot SA2. It made it feel more connected and like an actual adventure

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Is there some kind of Sonic fan book with official art, character bios, plot synopsis and stuff like that? A fan book like Hyrule Historia but for Sonic?
If not there should be, and package it with a little plushie and a best of CD. Bam, instant money Sega.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

A book full of Sonic lore
Fuck it. I'll probably disagree with part of it, but goddamn I want the salt to flow.

Plus I'll have a singular specific canon to work with when writefagging

girlDog
girlDog

Especially when it's night time in the game.
man I really wish the game would cycle through day/sunset/night when you're just replaying levels or doing mission mode in SADX. There were only a handful of times when it wasn't day out

massdebater
massdebater

Yeah unfortunately you have to play specific parts of the story to get the different times of day. Night time Mystic Ruins and sunset Station Square are really pretty, though so is night Station Square.
And I want to say there's a point where you're in the Mystic Ruins hub world with the train station and Tails' house where the sky is really stormy and dark. I think it's right before Skychase Act 2.

SniperWish
SniperWish

She's a big girl pretty tall too.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

What the fuck was his problem?

JunkTop
JunkTop

He has shit tastes

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I get that this is a Yaranaika reference but why do people always freak out over this? Do I even want to know?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Plus I'll have a singular specific canon to work with when writefagging
Don't you already have that? Unless you're writing about both the games and comics, the games already have a defined timeline for you to write for.

Firespawn
Firespawn

No i don't think you do.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Sonic games have a defined timeline? I thought they all just kind of...happened.

Like, besides SA1 -> SA2 -> Heroes -> Shadow the Hedgehog, I'm not certain where anything goes. Because there is Riders, Colors, Lost World, Rush 1 and 2, Generations, Unleashed, and some others I'm probably missing.

Nojokur
Nojokur

alright sthg, webber man posted some clue shit on his twitter today. usually theyre pretty fucking useless, but this one (if solved) looks like it might have something decent.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Well, there's the Classic S1 -> S2 -> S3&K -> Sonic Mania. Sonic CD goes after 3&K, though it could go before 1 if you're one of those "where is Tails?" people.

There's also the Advance 1 & 2 which happen before Heroes, since Amy knows Cream and Cream knows Sonic in that game after Sonic met her in Sonic Advance 2. Battle has to happen after Heroes and Shadow since Shadow is alive and knows about the Professor and Maria. After that, Advance 3 happens.

The Modern Era is a bit more difficult to place. Sonic 06 is the main starting point. After that, everything is "reset" into the Rush and Rivals games (Rivals games taking place after Rush games; Eggman Nega going against Eggman), with the Riders and Storybook games (Secret Rings and Black Knight) also happening somewhere in the mix. After that, everything comes together in Colors -> Generations -> Lost World. Forces will most likely come after Lost World, though some have speculated it takes place after Generations.

takes2long
takes2long

Forgot Unleashed; that also comes between 06 and Colors.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Now solve this puzzle: when does Generations happen for classic Sonic?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Shut the fuck up you stupid weeb, they obviously have no idea what they're doing.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I got a theory about an arc for most of the main series titles, but brace for autism:

start of time, light gaia and dark gaia emerge
fight over and over, earth gets reconstructed each time
some of the leftover energy --henceforth called Chaos Energy-- of both beings manifested through Chaos emeralds
speed up to current world
ancient populations catch onto this, build the Gaia Temples as recharge points for the Emeralds and as a way to potentially reduce damage from the Gaias' fight.
ages later, echidna tribes build shrines for the Master and Chaos Emeralds-- Hidden Palace included -- emulating the structure of the Gaia Temples mixed with their own culture
Chaos Emeralds end up being abused either now or eariler prompting the gods/ancients/whatever to create the master emerald as a safeguard/interface for their Chaos energy
Echidnas evelop some degree of precognition, form prophecies of Robotnik's first theft of the Master Emerald on Angel Island, and the fight between Perfect Chaos and Super Sonic
Fast forward further, Gerald Robotnik stumbles upon Chaos Energy in his research for Maria's cure
Discovers echidna's prophecies, decides to develop his experiments around them
builds a replica of a Master Emerald shrine on the ARK to keep his source of info close at hand
First creates the Biolizard from a common reptile like an iguana to test its regenerative effects in conjunction with Chaos Energy
Fails, puts Biolizard into stasis, decides to base experiment around Super Sonic from the prophecy instead
Gerald wants his creation to be as stable as it is powerful, looks for methods to improve upon its genetic makeup
Enter Black Arms, decide to give their DNA to Gerald in hopes that Project Shadow could be used as a weapon & as a way to get the Chaos Emeralds for themselves
G.U.N. comes in, shuts down Gerald's research, take findings and Chaos Energy data to use for themselves in their technology

good or shit?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Is Lara-Su a Mary Sue?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Unleashed was very ambitious at the time. It's not like Sonic Team or SEGA knew it would be so well received.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I doubt anyone here would be able to solve it.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

comes to Veeky Forums to talk about Japanese games
complains about weebs
You're like those anime fans who act like they're such cool epic nerdy anime experts as they watch their dubs but as soon as someone mentions subs they lose their shit and start screaming WEEB.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Amy from the Stream.
The other wasn't worth posting.
I hope you enjoyed it
I'll try to be on more. Two job is just eatting my time.. I miss you guys though

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Very cute Amy. Like the detail with the hearts in her eyes. Good work.

viagrandad
viagrandad

other wasn't worth posting
You actually went through with it? I have an early shift and tried watching from my phone but the stream kept acting up.

FastChef
FastChef

Literally the story of this whole god danm franchise.

RavySnake
RavySnake

S3&K

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

At the prime end of the Classic Era before Mania. We see Classic Tails, so we know it takes place after Sonic 2. And Sonic 3 & Knuckles happens immediately after that. It can't happen in between, since Classic Sonic is running through Green Hill before the Time Eater gets it. It also has to happen after Sonic CD, since Classic Sonic and Classic Metal Sonic know each other and have met.

hairygrape
hairygrape

The overworld and puzzles made Adventure 1 feel more like a real adventure for me tbqh.

whereismyname
whereismyname

That's because English is a retarded mess of a language where the spelling is merely a suggestion.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

They go through Sky Sanctuary yet there is no classic Knuckles. Classic Amy's omission can be justified as Metal was the representation of CD.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Japanese game
Implying I care about those shitty games

Nigga the only good part of this franchise was made by westeners.

StonedTime
StonedTime

That is because Classic Knux was busy doing his fucking job.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Classic Knuckles and Classic Amy weren't as iconic as Classic Tails or Metal Sonic, so they weren't included.t

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Nice job

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Pretty good.

Not a huge fan of your origin story for the Chaos Emeralds, their power is supposedly infinite so being the result of "leftover energy" seems unfitting. Everything after that is fine, though.

idontknow
idontknow

Nigga the only good part of this franchise was made by westeners.
I'll say.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

From thumbnail it reads like :SONIC PORK".

Soft_member
Soft_member

Well, yeah, "leftover energy" is a huge understatement; just didnt know how to word it.

besides, unleashed's intro showed that the emeralds CAN be drained, so their power can be considered finite, at least by definition

eGremlin
eGremlin

Reminder that the chinks are to blame for the disaster that is Boom.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Knuckles has always been far more iconic than Metal Sonic.

Sonic Pork Sonic Pork Sonic Pork
Trouble keeps you eatin' faster.
Save your stomach from disaster.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Oh, it did? Haven't played that game in a long time, guess I forgot about that. Never mind then.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

biggest criticism from ACTUAL SONIC FANS of generations is that the classic sonic gameplay is nothing like classic sonic
instead of fixing this sega just adds some mania move and calls it a day xD
literally what the fuck were they thinking

idontknow
idontknow

I have played the game so I know for a fact that Classic Sonic in Forces plays exactly like Classic Sonic in Generations, my dad works for Sega
What were you thinking when you decided to post?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

He saw the gameplay vid, so that tells him how he'll play the whole game.

Skullbone
Skullbone

epic samefag brah

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

lma0

iluvmen
iluvmen

Question: which does /sthg/ like better: rings being a one-hit shield that you recollect like in the old classic/adventure games, or a healthbar that incrementally decreases, like how Shadow and Unleashed did it?

Personally, i prefer the latter. seemed like a clever change that eases the tension a bit while still providing a decent health system

FastChef
FastChef

Former because the latter means you literally never have to worry about being hit.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Why tske out a signature mechanic and replace it with a generic mechanic?

DeathDog
DeathDog

I prefer the one-hit shield that you lose all of when hit myself. Makes it more challenging to get a good score without making it difficult to just complete the level as long as you can just pick up at least one ring after each hit.

Though I do say that picturing adventure and boost style games in which enemies die in one hit and the focus is less on fighting and more on going fast. In your example with Shadow I could be persuaded to believe that a healthbar might be the better option if there is more focus on combat with tougher enemies. Healthbars have proven to be pretty effective with combat-focused action games, and dropping all your rings and having to scramble to pick up at least one would be a tedious and frustrating pause to combat, especially in more difficult battles where you are getting hit a lot. I haven't played enough Sonic games with that sort of beat-em-up style to definitively say that I think that is how those games should work, just my thoughts on the matter.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Iizuka was "overseeing development of Sonic Boom" and "constantly communicating" with the dev team and "had his hands in every part of the development"

Sonic Boom was just as much of a Japanese abomination as it was a Western one

Inmate
Inmate

pretty much this. Shadow's combat focus needed the healthbar in order to keep the flow going, though heroes could have benefited from it as well.

it all depends on the kind of game you're playing; colors' "ring-shield" thing helped it out because it pushed the severity of slip-ups while playing and actually made you slow down to avoid flubbing again. Shadow had you in the middle of all the conflict, where getting hit was far more likely, so the healthbar thing was justified

idontknow
idontknow

The concept of losing all your rings after taking a single hit feels a bit outdated in terms of how video games have evolved over time. Older games are generally understood to have been much more punishing and relied on memorization. The loss of rings is balanced in relation to difficulty. Say you enter a fight with a boss and you have 50 rings. The more times you lose them, it gets progressively more difficult to pick them back up as less and less will fly out of him. And eventually the few you have left will fly off the screen too fast to get them, or worse in the case of some final bosses they'll fall right through the floor.
Where the concept of losing all your rings feels a tad outdated is in the reward factor for collecting them. There is far less room for error if you're trying to access a special stage or simply get a high score, putting more emphasis on repetition and memorization of the stage. I personally have no problem with that level of challenge but modern audiences are used to a more forgiving experience. Sega surely knows this which is why recent entries have softened the punishment of taking damage.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Did he have part in bloating Knuckles too?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

W-who made Sticks?

askme
askme

Older games are generally understood to have been much more punishing
modern audiences are used to a more forgiving experience
Sonic fans are old, though.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Older games are generally understood to have been much more punishing and relied on memorization

If you find the Sonic games hard you need to get out.

Methshot
Methshot

There will always be more money in getting kids to pester their parents to buy a game than relying solely on nostalgic adults.

Emberburn
Emberburn

he probably just told them "make him as American as you can" and BBR rolled with it

I know she was designed by Sega or Sonic Team as opposed to something that BBR solely came up with. I'm not sure if she was designed by the SoA or SoJ team though. I want to say SoJ since they generally oversee important aspects like new "main" characters but every interview I've read that talks about Sticks is always with SoA people talking about how she was designed, why she's the way she is, etc. but never who actually came up with the initial or final design.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Kids only play phone games and watch the other games on youtube, there's no money to be made of them in the console market.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Kids only play phone games and watch the other games on youtube
I'm talking out of my ass: the post
The only group that only does those two things are age 6 or less.

massdebater
massdebater

10 year olds will only play console games if they have big brothers or know someone who does.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

toot toot toot
Your anecdotal shit means nothing to me.

SniperGod
SniperGod

And yours means nothing to me. But there's a reason a lot of companies are banking more on mobile than on big budget releases.

TreeEater
TreeEater

You brought it up in the first place. If you wanna spout anymore crap make sure to bring some sources with it.
But there's a reason a lot of companies are banking more on mobile than on big budget releases
They sure are. Nintendo and Sega are just shitting out app games like crazy and not focusing on actual video game production at all.
It's not like people kill time with their phones or anything. That'd be too smart.

farquit
farquit

Nintendo is a dying company and Sammy SEGA makes the vast majority of it's income off Arcades and Pachinko.

It doesn't take much effort to google sales figures for videogames and compare them to the profits of the phone apps industry. But sure! Kids just LOVE Sonic! I mean have you not seen that new cool nintendon't add??? SEGA is sure to overtake this hot new videogame thing!

RavySnake
RavySnake

Nintendo is a dying company
pic related
It doesn't take much effort to google sales figures for videogames and compare them to the profits of the phone apps industry
It also doesn't take much effort to remember that mobile games are made to vacuum money out of your wallet with very little production cost.
Sega and Sonic aren't as relevant as they were in the 90s
this means they aren't relevant at all
Were you dropped as a kid?

Bidwell
Bidwell

It also doesn't take much effort to remember that mobile games are made to vacuum money out of your wallet with very little production cost.

And they're also designed to hook people in Casino style. And are hella good at it, which is why they're far more profitable than regular games. Companies don't care about quality, they care about profits.

But whatever, you keep thinking Nintendo is the top of the world and that kids like to play E-rated console games like all other deluded manchildren, if that's what helps you sleep at night.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Companies don't care about quality, they care about profits.
So that's why Nintendo is whoring themselves out on the mobile market like a gin hooker? How many have they released so far?
Didn't Sega switch focus from pachinko to video games not too long ago?
Really makes me think.
has absolutely nothing to support his anecdotal nonsense so he tries to make it a console war
I won't be the one having trouble sleeping, I can tell that much.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Again, Nintendo is a dying company, and that's with their 2 consoles out right now being handheld platforms. This isn't a console war tho, you were the one that bough up Nintendo trying to prove a point.

And no, SEGA didn't switch their focus to console games, they've always have an equally big hand on pachinko and Arcades in Japan.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Again, Nintendo is a dying company
Again, pic related.
keep thinking Nintendo is the top of the world and that kids like to play E-rated console games like all other deluded manchildren
I'm not trying to start a console war to deflect from having no backing to the shit I'm producing from my ass for you, silly user :^)
It's not very often that I see an user as consistently wrong as you are.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Companies don't care about quality, they care about profits.
Fuck companies. There should be state-enforced creative control. If Japan ever institutes Ministry of Good Taste I'll volunteer as the minister.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I said that Nintendo is a dying company. This isn't a "heh, dumb nintendrones top kek :^]" post, it's the truth, they're surviving off 25 years worth of savings, but they have been losing profits over the last 6 years or so. The 3DS is the most successful console out at the moment, but it's questionable how much longer it will last, and how successful a hypothetical successor will be, if there even is one with the Switch being an in-between.

Other than that i'm not sure what you want me to proof, that the mobile market is more profitable than the console market? It takes 5 seconds of Googling to find that out yourself, I don't think I really need to post a chart with source to prove the sky is blue.

farquit
farquit

I can't find a picture of it but there are a couple times where Big looks to the left or right in SA and his eyes are absolutely terrifying looking.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

but they have been losing profits over the last 6 years or so
let me continue to spew anecdotal garbage and act like I'm right
Does the inside of your ass smell good, user?
that the mobile market is more profitable than the console market?
I never said it wasn't but within the mobile market what's popular are just fads that cycle out faster than memes. There's no lasting appeal. They're quick, cheap ways to make a lot of money before dying off in a year or less. There's no building a loyal consumer base like that. There's no depth and with the high majority of people that play video games being involved with the console market either alone or in tandem with having some shit like candy crush on their phone as a time killer would be enough to cause company ending problems if one were to opt out of the console market.
If you honestly think Nintendo is a dying company then you're dumber than I thought you were. Both the DS and Wii printed them money and the 3DS and Switch certainly aren't putting a hole in their pocket since they usually make money off the individual sales of their hardware instead of jerking off their hardware's capabilities too hard and then realizing later that no one wants to spend $500 on glorified toaster. Except me.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/130424e.pdf
nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150507e.pdf
nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/170427e.pdf

Nintendo's financial reports of the last 5 years.

There's no lasting appeal. They're quick, cheap ways to make a lot of money before dying off in a year or less. There's no building a loyal consumer base like that.

I would agree, but games like clash of clans and it's spin-off game have been at the top for years, and names like Rovio names have certain degree of prestige within that market.

And even if it didn't, they don't need to, the mobile market works great with the modus operandi of most videogame companies; make a game for cheap, throw it out there, make a quick buck off it until something newer comes out. Rinse and Repeat.
Now I don't have any specific sauce for this but I'd wager a mobile game costs less than a small fraction to make than a "real" game, being on the frontpage of the appstore for a few days is probably good enough to earn back all of the production cost if not a bit more, so they're very low risk projects. This isn't news either, the 3DS gets so much third party support, or did, compared to the Vita, because of the same reason, a 3DS game with it's limitations only costs a few million while a big AAA game can cost dozens of millions, and with a relatively big install base, they're almost guaranteed to make at least their money back.

But anyway I don't know why i'm explaining the economics of kid toys on a taiwanese sweatshop design site at 6am on a Wednesday

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Some time ago AVGN played Sonic 2 and it turnd out he is still a just Nintendo nerd and a total noob when in comes to Sonic (he discovered a special stage right there, for crying out loud) or Mega Drive in general. At the end of the video he expressed desire to play Sonic 3 but months have passed and he didn't follow up on that. Maybe he is still stuck on the barrel.

FastChef
FastChef

It's obvious that James never was that much into videogames and just made the AVGN for pure coincidence. Mike is the vidya kid in that channel.

Lunatick
Lunatick

James and Mike deserve credit for playing Knuckles Chaotix on an actual 32X though. Even Johnny hasn't touched Chaotix.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I was about to post a smug response about how nobody does because it goes for retarded high on Ebay or something but looking at it, it's honestly not that expensive.

massdebater
massdebater

Sonic Adventure 2 is the best Sonic game ever created

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I think the real reason is that people aren't willing to put in the time to figure out the goofy rubber band physics. Understandably so. I hated it at first but once you get it down you can do some crazy shit and get nearly endless momentum.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

LETS GET TO WOOOOOOOORK

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I unironically enjoy playing shadow the hedgehog, its an actually fun game. Just started playing it for the first time in 12 years on dophin.

*One of the best Sonic Games ever created

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

its the only one with Eggman scratching his ass.

DeathDog
DeathDog

12 years
Fuck, where has my time gone?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

In 4 years Sonic will be 30 years old.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I hope SEGA finally gives in and makes him a bit older canonically.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Probably SoJ, Sticks has Uekawa's design hallmarks all over her.

Evilember
Evilember

Sticks' design > Sticks' voice

TreeEater
TreeEater

tfw they give Sonic a son eventually
tfw he's still voiced by RCS and makes even more potent dad jokes now that Sonic is a dad

Playboyize
Playboyize

Sonic's creation is closer to Moon Landing than to this day.

cum2soon
cum2soon

I hope son is dark purple.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Blue + Pink = ?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

A sort of lavender colour, darker shade than Blaze's lavender.

5mileys
5mileys

lavender
What are you gay? Just say purple

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

There already is a character of that color.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

There's nothing gay about knowing colors. If it weren't for artfags who know how to draw cute girly clothes and coordinate colors you wouldn't get your spicy fanart.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I feel that if Sonic had a son, he would pull a Goku on them. Unless, he just takes them on adventures with him or something.

Supergrass
Supergrass

How would you feel when the third character from Forces is Sonic's son?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

giving Sonic a son

I'm suddenly reminded of this image for no particular reason.

massdebater
massdebater

How would you even give Sonic a son without pissing shippers off?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Indifferent, and then annoyed at the inevitable massive backlash it would cause both within the fanbase and the media.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I wouldn't

SniperWish
SniperWish

Mitosis

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Make him look like some kind of amorphous blob that vaguely resembles every female character and never mention who the mother is. But even if you somehow managed to achieve that, you'd still get autistic screeching until the end of time.

A better question is: Why would you even need to give Sonic a son in the first place? In all likelihood, t'd just be the same gameplay with a slightly different looking Sonic.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Make it Amy's son.
Lie back and get murdered.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

sleep

cum2soon
cum2soon

youtube.com/watch?v=KqgP0wGBa_Q

Illusionz
Illusionz

Two job is just eatting my time
Ouch... survive

Methnerd
Methnerd

It looks like some sort of web link
Like the end of a youtube link, just scrambled

viagrandad
viagrandad

Bumb!

iluvmen
iluvmen

Can I cheat and say Sonic Mega Collection? It's the game that got me into the series.

iluvmen
iluvmen

That's a lot of fakers.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

this.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

someones got a fetish

Want a lil' Rouge one bad.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

adventure has the worst gameplay of all 3D sonics

cum2soon
cum2soon

Just like Generations!

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

You seem to have misspelled "Heroes". Don't worry, it's a common mistake.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It never occured to me how much I miss the Tornado 2. Tails really made that thing his own, he turned it from a plan, to a bi plane to a mecha. I can't remember the last time it was scene in canon.

TechHater
TechHater

I like to think at this point he has several different Tornados he picks and chooses from.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Knuckles has always been far more iconic than Metal Sonic.

Sorry friend, you gotta stop living in the past. Knuckles is just a meme at this point. Metal Sonic has taken over, just as planned.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I forgot before looking it up just now that the plane in Unleashed is the Tornado-1. Not the original Tornado again, but the Tornado-1. The evolution goes
Tornado -> Tornado 2 -> Tornado-1

Tails, your naming scheme sucks.

RavySnake
RavySnake

What was his plan?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Technically, the Tornado in SA2 is the Tornado III.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Rouge and many dicks
Oh, there's one Amy too.

likme
likme

This is also the model he uses when you race him in Sonic Generations. It seems he removed the cannon because the generations one doesn't have Sonic's gunner control.
The comics are dead, stop posting this shit

RavySnake
RavySnake

who gives a shit he literally doesnt exist anymore

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I love the fact that the end of Generations' Japanese script shits on the Tornado walker.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Well Knuckles is probably the 2nd most iconic cheerleader at this point, next to Tails. Wonder how many cheerleaders will show up in Forces, and if you can turn their "advice" off

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

The Tornado 3 (the walker in SA2) was actually mentioned in Generations' Japanese script.

Classic Tails: You added legs to the plane? How could you do that to Sonic's Tornado?!

Modern Tails: Yeah... I really overdid it with the legs...

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

The comics are dead, stop posting this shit

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I don't even think it's in my top 5.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I think you're fucking up the acronym.
Shouldn't it be BRB?

RavySnake
RavySnake

When did they have this conversation?

iluvmen
iluvmen

eh i thought the walker was alright, gave tails some good firepower
post-final boss, where in the english version they talk about Sonic's ring collecting

Emberburn
Emberburn

I'd guess it was at the point classic Tails asked where Sonic stored his rings in the English script.

In hindsight, wouldn't Tails know since he's had to hold rings too?

Emberfire
Emberfire

That was always my least favorite part of SA2. Mostly because the entire time I was like "Tails you're almost as fast as sonic and can literally fly? Why do you even need this mech?"

He'd just fall into quicksand and resign himself to death instead of just hopping out and taking the rest of the level on foot.

idontknow
idontknow

his ass wasn't even suppose to be in the game until somebody bitched. It was suppose to be Sonic and Knuckles vs Shadow and Eggman, remember all the early trailers just showing those four? We didn't see Rouge and Tails until late,oh, and Shadow had striped shows back then

girlDog
girlDog

should still be buying multiple copies

You can say it was just a joke, but we all know who was REALLY behind this panel.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Good thing someone bitched. Thanks to that we got Rouge: a breakthrough for female characters.

TechHater
TechHater

That's it! No more mercy

King_Martha
King_Martha

Took me a while to realize that Sally, in fact, is not riding a dick.

Lunatick
Lunatick

How perverted are you to get THAT image out of that image? Jeez,guy.

w8t4u
w8t4u

In terms of Sonic's run cycle, I always assumed that the reason he runs with his hands behind his back is that he's going so fast that he can't pull them forward.
Which is why in games like Heroes he's running normal because he's going slow enough for tails and knuckles to keep up.

farquit
farquit

To fuck all of Sonic's bitches, surely.

I thought Tails' walker was called the Cyclone, and was only modeled after the Tornado, not legit made from it?

whereismyname
whereismyname

I mistook Sonic's leg for Sally's other leg.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I never realized until just now the "arms behind the back" thing started with the Super peel out.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Cartoons
Meh to Alright
Games
Puke to fucking amazing
Comics
.....Meh

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

The new season of boom is better than it has any right to be. They've pretty much gone 22 jump street and 180d from the first season, becoming meta and self aware as fuck.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

It was named the Tornado III, but it's nickname is Cyclone.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

"I'll show you how powerful my cyclone is. Fire power laser!"

happy_sad
happy_sad

fucking nightmares from that line

Illusionz
Illusionz

Haven't seen 22 Jump street. Grew up with the cast of 21 Jump Street.
youtu.be/XNt4G7isvjk

StonedTime
StonedTime

That's part of where that theory came from. Super Peelout was Sonic's "MAX" speed. Even faster than his foot wheel animation.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Tails's AI is much more aggressive than Eggmans in that fight, fucking horrible.

happy_sad
happy_sad

I love Boom, but
Self aware =/= good
There needs to be a fair amount of actual jokes so you don't need a degree obtained from the Sonic Wiki to have fun with the show. There's plenty of those but people act like the meta jokes are everything.

Skullbone
Skullbone

That's because the meta jokes are the most fun for us as part of the community.

likme
likme

Basically 21 is like the original show, just a movie version

But 22 becomes ultra meta and basically goes the complete opposite direction from the first one, while acknowledging how it's the complete opposite, but follows similar tropes. It's fucking ridiculous. I'd give both movies a watch, they're pretty good.
Oh they're not everything, I just found shit like the dreamcaster jokes to be pretty funny.
I want the peel out back in mania. People said it was useless but I fucking loved it. Also the new max speed animation in mania is gay and goofy.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It actually kinda makes sense that way too. Tails was pissed as fuck because his best buddy just died and wanted to not let him down. Eggman meanwhile was likely severely underestimating what he could do.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Daily reminder that Adventurefags and Adventurefaggotry ruined the franchise and deserve no pandering in future games.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Jesus I want another game with an Adventure 1/2 styled soundtrack. Some may call it generic but damn fuck you Metal Harbor and Prison Lane are my fucking jam

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I agree. They'll never top SA2 anyway so why even try?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Why? Classicfaggotry did the same thing and look what we have now.

Emberfire
Emberfire

We have a great anniversary game coming down the pipe (Mania) and an at least halfway decent 20th anniversary game (Generations)? Meanwhile Adventurefaggotry got us all the shit from Adventure to Unleashed's hub stages and Werehog segments.

Bidwell
Bidwell

GRIIIIFFFIIIIIIITH

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Forces would be more hype if Classic Sonic wasn't around.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Peelout's a pretty neat thing. simply because I love seeing sonic hit mach speed when not in ball form.

I think the issue with it is that sonic levels are rarely open enough to hit a full sprint and keep that speed. I'd argue that Utopiahandled it best because you can go from a roll into peelout and back again and maintaining a full peelout sprint required you to use inertia to reach and maintain that speed.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Drop Dash > Spin Dash >>>>> shit >>>>> Super Banana Peel out

Methshot
Methshot

Want a lil' Rouge one bad.
I'd get one quicker rather than later. The company that made the current one no longer has the merch license and who knows if Tomy will make one.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Well CDs level design wasn't exactly "open" or good, for that matter. I think peelout would work a lot better in stages from Sonic 2, and from what I've seen, Manias stages. Can't wait for pc mods lol.

Also

utopia

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Using the gameplay from The Unleashed Project and the usability of his friends Sonic 3 style is the only way to make Sonic good again.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING
SO DON'T EVEN TRY
GET SOME HELP

hairygrape
hairygrape

Adventure 1/2 styled soundtrack
Let it get to me? I'm just gonna creep,
Down in Pumpkin Hill I gots to find my lost piece.
I know that it's here, I sense it in my feet,
The great Emerald's power allows me to feel.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

But why does the great Emeralds Power make an Echidna feel tho?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

youtube.com/watch?v=6y-q2BdBA-Q

Spamalot
Spamalot

youtu.be/mme5wIp5qdU

I wonder if Andy Tunstall would do some music in Sonic Mania?
Probably not but I would welcome if its just one track at least.

Soft_member
Soft_member

True. Shoving Classic into another game that isn't Generations 2 is as bad as keeping the Wisps around.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Everybody tries to be straight,
But things are still unchanged.
It's useless to resist,
Their effort will be wasted.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

CD is one of the hardest games to maintain top speed and you NEED to do that to go through time.
It's like the game almost actively doesn't want you to be able to use its gimmick. It especially sucks when you've been running at top speed for a couple seconds and at the LAST second you hit a wall and it doesn't work.

RumChicken
RumChicken

It's weird how immediately triggering just SEEING the 06 font is.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

No shit, there's always fans like that for any series that has had multiple interpretations and gameplay styles over the years. This is like being surprised by "not muh Batman" types, or how various Mario fans feel about NSMB, 64, Galaxy, and 3D Land/World.

farquit
farquit

Good thing I am a normal fan that just likes to play the games as is and not be swayed into disgust of how a game looks/plays.

I rather play the game first then have my own opinion on it.

For what it is worth.
I enjoyed Sonic Chronicles the Dark Brotherhood aside from the shitty Midi musics and the plot stupidity. I like that they gave some of the characters more of a personalities in them.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I think as far as a "good 3D sonic" goes, I feel Sonic World nails the balance perfectly. The physics aren't perfection, but it has the extreme speed of the Boost games while giving you the control you still had in Adventure. It's seriously a great balance between intense speed and player control, and I go back to replay the levels often.

Lunatick
Lunatick

prison lane
my echidna

eGremlin
eGremlin

teleports behind Silver
psssh...nothing personnel...kid

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Otani has commented on that, somewhat. The Modern soundtrack (and maybe the new character's levels, too) implements more rock and guitar instruments like the Adventure titles. In addition, the soundtrack will be unlike Lost World, and similar to 06, though not exactly the same.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Well that's good to hear. An 06-esque soundtrack is not a problem for me, as with most Sonic games the music is usually the saving grace and I really dig the tunes.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Any of you faggots play sonic world?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I tried it. The idea is nice, but the gameplay and level need more polish until they're more enjoyable. Good variety of characters to pick from.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Do you mean Sonic Lost World?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Do you mean Sonic World Adventure?

youtube.com/watch?v=TGC4ce_AVcc

Yay or nay on having Future Sonic Forces boss battle to have Lyrics come up when the boss is only at 50% of health left and battle gets tougher?

eGremlin
eGremlin

yep. though im having a lot of trouble getting a controller to work, but that's mostly a hardware thing

I actually came up with a new key setup that uses the L, K, J, and I buttons for actions while WASD controls movement and Q and E rotate the camera

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

No, he means the fangame Sonic World.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

requires light speed dash
doesn't give it to all characters
Wow

Bidwell
Bidwell

lightspeed dash to all characters
might as well give sonic the ability to fly if you're going to do that

viagrandad
viagrandad

Can we all agree that one of the best things Sonic arguably has over other platformers besides music is the level aesthetics? Sonic goes through some crazy places each new game. While a lot of them share themes, they're still incredibly inspired and appealing for a platformer series. BINGO Highway is a high-speed highway-pinball hybrid set in a park that is also a giant casino. Sky Sanctuary, true to its name, is a bunch of floating ruins suspended in the air, some of them very unstable and prone to collapsing. Dragon Road has large dragon-shaped paths that twist around a gorgeous mountain range. And with Mania we already have some great looking locales in the form of Studiopolis and Mirage Saloon.

Asteroid Coaster, Rail Canyon, Quartz Quadrant - Sonic seems to do this thing really well I believe, and easily one of my favorite things about a new Sonic game is experiencing the cool new worlds our favorite blue rat is going to run through. I get the jitters as soon as I see the level card. Anyone else?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

No Sonic World, its a fangame

Ask for help on the discord

Emberburn
Emberburn

See .

With some polish it could be the best 3D Sonic, period. You can play as Mighty so I already love it.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Don't make a stage that RECQUIRES a move that not all characters can use.

Imagine if in sonic adventure they threw sonic into a stage and said "Find all the emeralds burried in the ground" without the ability to climb or dig for emeralds.

FastChef
FastChef

Nintendo is a dying company
In 2100, maybe, but nowadays?

The Wii took Nintendo to a new level of profit, to the point that they still have a good saving amount of money earned from Wii. It also helps that their handhelds still make ridiculous profit.

I thought SEGA is the one dying company, especially when it almost went to bankrupt before if it weren't for Isao Okawa.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Stages backdrops Great.
Some of the level Design?
Eh. Hit or miss with Some.

Rooftop Run is pure Kino in Unleashed

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

requires lightspeed dash
What are you smoking?

Also theres a team mode or duo mode if you need a character with a different ability to help

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

no need, i know what to do next, its just downloading the right remapping programs and such

the fact that the game doesnt and wont support bluetooth controllers really is a bitch tho

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

When they put the effort in, it's amazing. Hopefully no more like Lost World, though.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

aesthetics
most of the modern sonic games barely do anything fresh. it's always cities, underground caves, etc, etc. the classic games will always be the best at it

viagrandad
viagrandad

Sega just now in a joint venture with Platinum and they are going to reach record highs with Bayo/Vanquish selling like hotcakes on PC.

Lest not forget that they are planning to push these games onto current consoles too.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I often find myself going back to Sonic CD solely for the art and music. The level design is either chunky, slow ass (if you stop and try to earn your good ending) or absurdly short and unrewarding (if you try to play it like a normal sonic game) and kind of counters the time mechanic, the bosses are lame, and the final boss is even lamer.

But it looks and sounds so good, I end up playing it a lot.

askme
askme

I really do suggest you check out their discord, peoppe show level WIP's and character mods off, and theres a channel for video promotions so you can see the levels before you download them

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

aight i'll check it out

Flameblow
Flameblow

Just look up Ravnic, kiddo.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Unleashed, Colors, and Black Knight had some pretty nice and distinctive level visuals.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

can you give me a link, all the ones i'm finding are busted

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Yeah
discord.gg/bfxSg

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Unleashed's stages were great BECAUSE they were unique cities. It wasn't just generic New York City (although there was a New york city stage). It was a world adventure and all the locations felt interesting.

Also the color stages were really cool to. Aquarium Park, The candy place. And asteroid coaster is pretty great.

Spamalot
Spamalot

youtube.com/watch?v=YErNN3Jzpf8

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I agree. It's a shame that Lost World decided to go with explicitly generic tropes for the levels, which means we haven't had truly original stages for 7 years since Colors!

Firespawn
Firespawn

unique cities
this is like saying green hill in forces is different from green hill in generations

Spamalot
Spamalot

i like sticks' voice

she's like a female version of this guy

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

thx

MPmaster
MPmaster

Np

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Colors is 7 years old.

God damn...

cum2soon
cum2soon

good call user.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Chun-nan doesn't feel like Holaska
Holaska doesn't feel like Spagonia.
Spagonia isn't like Shamar

The only ones I can think that are SORTA similar are Spagonia and Apatos, and that's just because italian and greek architecture aren't TOO different from one another.

idontknow
idontknow

jitters
you may be experiencing some form of mild seizure, user.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I love plushies

like 90% of them look very retarded and off but it's like, part of the charm

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

italian
You mean spanish, british and french.

StonedTime
StonedTime

7 years since Colors
what the fuck does time just move fast for autistic people or what? it feels like Colors was like 2 years ago

WebTool
WebTool

more like it moves fast for adults. every day seems to go by faster and faster

someone make it stop ;_;

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

It will all be over soon

Snarelure
Snarelure

There is nothing in life but suffering, death and the realization that things like morals, goodness, hope and love only exist in fantasy land. There are enemies at every turn and more and more you come to realize that if we just killed everybody everything would be better, no more suffering, no more destruction, just an eternity of nothingness

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

But then I can't play Mania.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

So? it's just a game, one of many, you'll play, maybe get into a meaningless flame war about it's quality and listen to it's ost for a few months and the cycle will continue.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Top story today, a person from /sthg/ is being overdramatic. In other news, stoves are hot.

girlDog
girlDog

It's not so much as dramatic just a truth. everything is meaningless and pointless, only lies and selfish desires keep people alive.

Skullbone
Skullbone

It'd be funny if Ryan Drummond passed away.

whereismyname
whereismyname

That's not funny.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

things like morals, goodness, hope and love only exist in fantasy land
And that's why you should invent them.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

the various sonics are all pretty good in their own way

but there is only one shadow

cum2soon
cum2soon

Jason Griffith?

cum2soon
cum2soon

youtube.com/watch?v=__LE-IYXI28

holy shit
dat voice change

King_Martha
King_Martha

You forgot about the Shadow Androids?

idontknow
idontknow

gotta go fats xDD

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

"On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

DO IT!

Even though Boom is for kids, it still gives me a chuckle

viagrandad
viagrandad

are you okay user

FastChef
FastChef

Who is your fav VA for sonic?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Burke.

I grew up with Jaleel but he honestly hasn't aged well.

King_Martha
King_Martha

blast processing
Are the making fun of SEGA?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Can't see anyone else voicing Sonic other than Jason Griffith in my eyes
Yeah...that garbage fan movie did NOT do him justice.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Kanemura overall, but English-wise, Drummond for Modern and Burke for Classic.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Ryan
Fucking
Drummond

RCS is an asshat

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

DO IT!

Booteefool
Booteefool

Can Amy spin dash or not?

DeathDog
DeathDog

In the Sonic Dash mobile game which is what that comic is adapting, yes.

I don't think there's many other games where she can roll.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Where's this from again?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Drummond.

The guy who did Sonic Undergound for cartoons.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Sonic Super Special Magazine #10.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

She can Spin Jump and Spin Attack in Advance 2. She can also Homing Attack and Rocket Accel (which is a worse Spin Dash) in Heroes.

askme
askme

I think she can in the dreamcast version of SA2

MPmaster
MPmaster

they have been for a while
youtube.com/watch?v=E9tkmos5CN4

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

kek
they work fast

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Cool. Now if only I know where I can read them.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I like the current one.

idontknow
idontknow

muh-- muuhhreeaaah

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Was their mother ever found?
They made a vow, you know.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Is this an Edgar Allan Poe reference?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Jason

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Burke for Classic Sonic, Smith for Modern.

TechHater
TechHater

you know people laugh about it but I doubt any of you would be happy about letting a childhood friend die when you have superpowers to some extent. especially one that was already dying anyway

Spamalot
Spamalot

the damn series was cancelled before they could meet up.
I always hated how she was always so close by all the time.
Gotta love that sexy buttrock themetune.

eGremlin
eGremlin

RCS

farquit
farquit

it is actually a nice story but it's still funny because underneath the edgy exterior he's just a small rodent crying about his friend

Playboyize
Playboyize

Roger. The only Sonic VA since Jaleel that had any sort of comedic ability.

Techpill
Techpill

why are they so perfect? why is there not a film noir style show or game dedicated entirely to their exploits as undercover agents?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

same reason there is no justice league style cartoon show with sonic and pals

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Rouge is cuddly and snuggly.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'd watch/play it.
cute pic

Soft_member
Soft_member

How about Knuckles/Rouge game where they search for emeralds?

eGremlin
eGremlin

I second this.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

G-Guys

animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-05-10/sonic-the-hedgehog-extreme-skateboarding-game-lost-footage-revealed/.115882

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The video was already posted.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I feel dumb

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I hope somebody is getting a new thread ready, the bump limit is at our fingertips.

girlDog
girlDog

You tried

TreeEater
TreeEater

CLAIMING POST #750!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

-Martin Burke did Classic Sonic's voice well, sounding cool and determined without trying hard, much like Sonic himself was in his early games
-Jaleel White emphasized sonic's absolute lack of respect, gave a now-visibly exaggerated "cool" personality that still charmed a lot of the intended demographic
-Ryan Drummond was the same deal, but toned down a bit and more emphasized on sonic's free-spirited nature
-Jason Griffith had a more emotional tone to his sonic, allowing him to bring out Sonic's altruistic motivations for doing what he does, but every sentence that came out of his mouth had the exact same intonation and enunciation
-Roger Craig can do pretty much all of the above and make every sentence unique, albeit with a VERY slight cost in quality

I think Martin Burke was the best voice for Classic Sonic, but Modern Sonic has too much of a personality to be voiced by anyone except Roger imo

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

#749

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Here's the link to that uncensored Bump vs OCDonut I said I would post, but it's not like there's a significant difference: s-dash.blogspot.de/2017/05/blog-post.html

But hey. It's also link to a site in case of something too lewd for Swatting Boats.

askme
askme

veekyforums.com/thread/176423024/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/176423024/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/176423024/video-games

MPmaster
MPmaster

Not anymore.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Cool. Thanks, man.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Neat.

RumChicken
RumChicken

is this the comic where super sonic is a complete dickwad?

askme
askme

Amy flirting to get sonic off guard.

Even if that's not what she's doing, that'd be a pretty effective strategy.

Evilember
Evilember

i want to motorboat bumps bumps

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Nah, that's Fleetway.

This is from the Archie comic. It's the very last panel before the reboot happens.

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