pastebin.com/AEU0TuVt (embed) Be aware, Thargroots are currently grabbing ships out of witchspace and giving out complementary rectal probings, it is advised you shoot the fuck out of them whenever possible, or just go with it if that's your thing, I ain't tellin you how to live. Apparently the Ayylmaos are rumbling again, inquire within if this means goddamned thing or if its just Braben trying to scare up some more money.
I don't really know shit about E:D's current events so If you want anything but mockery in the Op you fuckers needs to make them once and a while and add shit.
Reminder that Braben is a Dad and that is why E:D is and will always be a dad sim. __________________________________ Star Citizen Information:
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Stellaris is on sale on steam 40% off, it's not a first person game it's an RTS but its is a space game and its pretty gud. I am salty as fuck because I bought it for full price three days ago. Fucking jews man.
SC is in dire need of racy but postable fanart to be posted in these threads in particular butts and bodysuits. Drawfags, you are work is cut out for you, get to it.
In this thread we discuss the rites and rituals of the Cult of the Spaced God. E:D fags can join in too if they want, though they cannot participate in any of the rites of Spaced men until they get legs, So never.
First for 3.0 is further away with less features than we thought.
Bentley Collins
It really does make me question what exactly those 400 some fucking developers we paid for are doing? Like, I get that game dev takes a long time and is full of unforeseen shit, but they have added literally in more than a year, and we haven't heard a peep about SQ42 in 6 months, and what we last heard was a complete fabrication. Like what the hell are the actually doing? Where is all the time and money going? What the fuck are they actually doing because they're clearly not making huge amounts of progress on the game, or if they are they are being so fucking utterly tight lipped about it that we have no idea of the actual state of the game, which is the precise opposite of what they promised to do.
John Lewis
yeah, actually forgot about that, maybe a bunch of fags got b&
Juan Morris
Yeah, but it's open development, so you can't criticize them because they showed us a tiny slice of their development. Also, they put the reptilian on camera every week to go on and on about how much they are doing without actually showing any actual gameplay or mission elements.
CIG thinks all of their backers are window licking retards. Based off on leddit and the Spectrum, they are mostly right. People with >2 brain cells are caught in the lurch.
>tfw fucking spreadsheet sim has better lighting than SC It hurts.
Josiah Taylor
>mfw ED update that gave us spess faces had flavour text along the lines of "It's the future, you can be whoever you want to be in the future! It's the future!" >can't be a handsome spacecat
Future is shit.
Cooper Phillips
the sun has better textures than the dying sun map in SC, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that it has better lightning at all, still I only have a poor tech demo to back my argument so...
Is it without flight assist? I tried to fly around Orbis similarly last evening in hopes to get a better grip on FA-off and got myself entangled in the first ring.
Mason Perry
Wow this looks generic as fuck. Thanks for proving my point.
Someone should call Chris and tell him that Doom 3 was a decade ago and it sucked.
Dominic Moore
>doom 3 sucked
You shut your whore mouth.
Charles Rivera
Do the Orca and Beluga have good jump ranges now after engineering?
Jordan Anderson
>Do the Orca and Beluga have good jump ranges now after engineering? Whoa, I have missed a lot! Comparing old coriolis.io/ to coriolis.edcd.io/ Orca used to have the shittiest max jump range and now it's top-5 without engineering. What the fuck, what else did they change? I flew Orca ironically back then!
Cameron Ward
How the fuck iCourier max speed and boost are still slower than heavier Eagle or Viper though? 35 tons vs 50 tons is, like, a lot.
Wyatt Anderson
>generic as fuck
Do your eyes function correctly? It's impressive as fuck.
God damn. Why does am I always surprised that people like you exist. But then again, this is Veeky Forums afterall.
Lucas Martinez
Get the fuck out Derek.
Zachary Roberts
>reeeee, stop disliking what I like >IT'S GROUNDBREAKING 1000 UEC has been added to your account, citizen. Keep fighting the good fight and cya in the 'verse! - Ben
Jack Davis
>tfw you get triggered so hard you begin to samefag to support the argument you never had
Juan Carter
It's not a matter of like or dislike. When something is groundbreaking, that by definition means it is pushing the boundaries of what is currently capable. You can dislike how it looks for whatever reason, but to say a game made in 2003 (with some graphical upgrades since then I'm assuming) does it better is objectively wrong.
Levi Hughes
no that webm was done with flight assist on. i still can't get FAOFF to get turned on/stay on reliably in camera mode but it's probably a matter of me not knowing the combination or some shit
Luke Powell
Good fidelity != good art direction, neither is complex technology != good lighting. Just like $150mil budget != good game, as we well know. Day/night cycle on planetary scale is great and all, but not when it looks generic as fuck.
Matthew Smith
Art direction is subjective. If that's your opinion then sure, whatever. I was referring to the technology behind it.
Nolan Watson
>Art direction is subjective. That's exactly why someone should tell Chris Doom 3 he loves so much sucked and everyone knows that.
Brayden Howard
>citizens don't like doom 3 /scg/ confirmed for not knowing shit about video games
Anthony Cooper
Never played Doom, dunno anything on that subject matter. I'm also not sure how much Chris is directly overseeing the lighting system. Since it's Chris, I assume he has everything grabbed by the balls.
I am also unable to see how the current lighting implementation looks generic but the lighting in the EVE video that was linked looks less generic. Care to elaborate? By it being not generic, do you mean it looks unique or stylized? If so, I prefer realism.
Lincoln Ross
>Never played Doom, dunno anything on that subject matter. Then how about you stop discussing things you know nothing about? >Never played Doom Shitizens, ladies and CMNDs.
Jordan Rivera
Huh? Aren't we talking about the lighting technology in SC and EVE? You're the one that keeps bringing up Doom for whatever reason. It's not the main point being discuseed.
Daniel Reed
Hahaha, this webm.
But yeah, I'm not gentle enough with my FA-off, often end up adding unnecessary input even for calm situations like boost-turning to face the jump.
Cameron Turner
>technology You're the only one talking about technology behind it, go read the posts again. No one cares how good the tech is if you don't utilize its potential. Everything in Crusader looks as bland as generic as it's humanly possible.
Jonathan Butler
I never said anything about Doom other than that I haven't played it. My lack of knowledge of Doom doesn't relate to my opinion of SC and EVE's lighting, in any way shape or form. That was a random statement you keep tacking onto your posts. Then you tell me that my lack of knowledge of Doom invalidates my opinion of the lighting in games. What is the thought process here?
I don't disagree with you there. But that can be changed and improved on. What's important that the potential IS there.
Jordan Anderson
is that*
Ohhh. I think I get it.
and wasn't me.
Nicholas Clark
>What's important that the potential IS there. Planetside 2 also had potential. Same with every game developed ever. Wasted potential is a thing.
Logan Myers
The difference is this is a crowdfunded game much more open to player feedback. If the lighting really isn't up to par when the game is closer to release, I'm sure many people will tell them. I know it's easy to label backers as a bunch of yes men, but in reality we are extremely critical of CIG.
Liam Torres
>crowdfunded game much more open to player feedback Countless Kickstarters has proven this wrong time and time again.
Benjamin Williams
Don't bother is just shitposting. You have to call his bullshit before he'll attempt to justify himself.
Star Citizen lightning isn't what I would call generic, neither is EVE, many space game always add ambient lightning to keep the ship's texture visible at all time. For them it only happen in the rare nebula picture.
The only way to call it generic is if you only played game using CryEngine, then obviously it become your own standard.
Benjamin Wood
>any different opinion is shitposting >thinks Crusader is not generic >reddit spacing Gilded, upvoted. Go the fuck back where you came from, sunshine.
Levi Harris
I don't quite understand what generic means for lighting. To me it's either realistic, or artistic/stylized.
Noah Moore
Like Veeky Forums is any better. I wish you people would honestly keep to yourselves.
Justin Hall
>comes to Veeky Forums to shill >says 4channers should keep to themselves ???
Brayden Rivera
I firmly believe that the crazies and deplorables should have no platform to speak on.
Mason Parker
ANd I do agree with that, but sadly SC subreddit is not going anywhere anytime soon.
David Cook
But the reality is this site attracts more of those people than any other.
Connor Scott
It did attract you and other cultists, so there's some truth behind that alright.
Should I? Will it give me the edge? Will it make me a dad?
John Reed
This. I became a goon, a shitposter and Derek just by asking a rather innocent question about SC ship pricing. This cult is really getting out of hand.
Logan Rivera
I'm not even talking about SC. Just types of people in general. For instance, this site has an overwhelming majority of Trump supporters that talk like skinheads. I'm ashamed to even frequent it at times.
It's just the way that people formulate sentences and express their beliefs that give an off-putting feeling.
Wyatt Jackson
This, what the fuck is "generic" in terms of lighting?
Expecting light to behave differently to reality to make it unique in some way or some bullshit?
Parker Powell
>For instance, this site has an overwhelming majority of Trump supporters that talk like skinheads
Are your feelie weelies hurt because people are talking like they have since this site existed, redditor?
"Project Eclipse" is some sort of soon to be disclosed black project. Rumbles say it's an Aegis multicrew gunboat somewhere between a Constellation and a polaris in size.
Thomas Johnson
It's nowhere to be seen on steam.
Jacob Cox
Is that Ortwin?
David Long
At this point it seems more likely that we'd get /edg/ together and grind up cqc rank then it'd be to find a regular game. So never
Blake Perry
...
William Miller
>decide to go full FUN mode and start doing all ICC missions in SC until the end of days to see how the dialogue goes >like 8 missions in a row without crashing >restock at cryastro >mobiglass stuck bug
fucking piece of shit tech demo, I'll be so fucking mad if in 3.0 this shit is still in the god damn ''''''game'''''' FUCK
David Mitchell
What did he mean by this?
Parker Anderson
Not him but probably one of the many game breaking bugs that exist in the current PU and probably won't be fixed for the patch everyone was told to wait for; 3.0
Christian Ramirez
>poor >computahh is shit >cant run sc >but want to join the madness
3.0 never SC is a scam Bannerlord never GINGEEEEEEEEEe
Isaiah Carter
The arg shit can go fuck itself. Just put out the Damm thing already.
Bentley Thomas
I'd laugh if Project Eclipse turned out to be the Redeemer. I'd laugh half to death.
Brody Diaz
All we can ever hope for is the Shitdeemer is quietly forgotten about
Matthew James
oh baby give it to me, rip it off chris, rip it off!
Wyatt Anderson
People paid money for it, it was $250 USD. CIG isn't quick to forget money dropped their way. The Redeemer will surface when we least expect it, and the lower turret will still be a useless deathtrap.
Xavier Cox
What are the top 5 most failure ships right now?
1. refailiation 2. memedeemer 3. 4. 5.
?
Liam Thomas
hello all, i just got the commander edition of elite dangerous and was a bit intimidated on starting it, any tips and how should i go about it?
i have a mouse and keyboard and a ps4 controller
James Ross
3.karthu al 4.m50
Juan Sanders
that's all nice but how many children do you have?
Brayden Baker
about 3 million in a few socks under the bed.
Zachary Gomez
Why are they under the bed, do you not know how to do laundry?
Jordan Gutierrez
Take it easy and do tutorials. That will help you familiarise yourself with basic controls and actions like flying about and shooting lasers at various things. They seem to have added more tutorials, but I don't know how detailed they are.
For example, mining tutorial used to be barebones "shoot lasers at an asteroid and catch a few pieces flying off". Which hardly scratches a surface, because getting a proper loadout, using limpets and choosing better asteroids is a must.
So, prepare to google a lot.
Juan Martinez
In no particular order
Refailiator(I own one, RIP shipfu) Memedeemer Shitstaing Rely-Aint 325Awful
Nathaniel Turner
Don't know why you would list the Retaliator so high up. Its niche doesn't even exist yet
Joseph Evans
Did you people already forget about the Defender.
Caleb Robinson
M8, its gonna be shit in its niche, and you can operate a Polaris for the same manpower as a Tally. It's problems are many and clear and it's not just because it doesn't have caps to shoot at. It's turret are small and poorly laid out, its weapons loadout is anemic aside from its Torps, meaning its not flexible. Its interior is a case study in wasted and redundant space. It has 7 Crew, and only 6 escape pods, short straw goes down with the ship. It's neither durable nor maneuverable nor fast despite having literally 8 main engines.
All this would be forgiveable if it could outrun fighters, but it cant. It lacks any sort of defensive equipment like jammers, or mine launchers or decoys, any of the various things IRL bombers use to keep themselves alive.
It's not lack of a role that makes the tally shit its lack of focused, thoughtful design to make it able to do its job. It's a strike bombers thats combat non survivable against small fighters, how is it going to survive attack runs on defended, escorted heavily armed caps? Even if you can gets your torps away, theres just no way you get out alive if the other team is even vaguely awake.
It's a ship that no one is going to use because theres a better option for literally every thing its is capable of doing. Like I said, I have one, It's my favorite ship, but it's objectively shit in its current form.
Jack Baker
>Its niche doesn't even exist yet hangar queen?
you are right
also add esperia prowler
ayylian ships are so shit, HappyMerchant is probably the only decent one
Kayden Ortiz
Want me to give you a ride through THE VISION?
Jaxon Brown
Were talking flyable or at least hangar ready stuff, aalso AYYLMAO ships dont count, they're intentionally memey, were talking about ships intended as practical options that just are not.
Ships that don't exist cannot yet be failures. Not that I dont think it will be. Shibashicane as well.
Jose Gutierrez
Its turrets and weapons are meant to be small. Its primarily a torpedo bomber, if it could actually fight off dedicated fighters that wouldn't be the rock-paper-scissors gameplay that is intended. Cap ships kill fighters easily, bombers kill cap ships, fighters kill bombers.
If its capable of getting in, launching a significant payload and getting out, its fit for purpose even if the corridors are fucked. Still better than the 300i or Reliant.
Survivability is literally just tweaking an XML to have better values. 300i needs its entire design changed to even function.
Jackson Bailey
Most interesting thing about the Banjew defender will be the introcdution of Tachyon cannons.
Elijah Lopez
Just use your use mouse like everyone else. It's useless gimmick especially in a game like Elite where everything is always in front of you. Elite is not really a simulator.
If it were a hardcore flight simulator where you need to read a manual just to get airborne then it's adviced. Also WW2 flight sims need head tracking because you don't have any instruments to track your targets, only your eyes.
William Murphy
You're missing the biggest issues the ship has internally and externally. It can't perform its funciton due to extremely low survivability in all situations it can be in. It's a humongous target for capital ship weapons as well as fighter mounted ones, with a large enough cross section that the mere act of turning away from a capital ship after a run will cause it to get totaled. This means the crew will have to quickly get to the upper deck to reach the escape pods, and one person will still be left to die even if they do manage to get there before the ship is torn to shreds. This means the three people in the back are fucked, since the corridor layout maximizes your time in transit, then you have to climb a goddamn ladder, too, one at a time.
The Retaliator will not survive having both fighters and capital ships gunning for it in its current state... And that's before we get into the placement of the turrets, the lack of thruster power, the lack of pilot controlled weapons, the small size and low power of the weapons attached to the turrets, and the wasted space in the bomb bays. It's not even good for carrying cargo with its cargo modules, since the Constellation is more defensible, better armored, and has a hands down better weapons loadout. And THAT'S not going into the ships that do its niche job better than it, like the Vanguard Harbinger, or Polaris.
I just want the Retaliator to be worth a damn, even if it still gets wrecked by fighters.
Connor Adams
>more aegis/anvil/generic military purpose only NPC spam ships
oh boy gee i sure i am excited lemme tell you what
DRAKE CAP SHIP WHEN JOSH COONZ
Oliver Hill
>SC eventually release >All features like stealth and Electronic Warfare are In >Its speed was rebalanced up >Turrets even in auto-mod make it too dangerous to pursue as you can't dodge easily >Everybody get used to call it the Silent Death of all capital ship >The Polaris turn out too fat and heavy to survive cap battle and is forever a patrol&rescue ship
You know this pict to be true
Isaiah Powell
>first paragraph
already covered this. Retaliator could be a flying tank of a billion HP shield or made of tissue paper at the drop of a hat. Placement of escape pods is relevant to crew survivability, but not SHIP survivability - the hope being that it doesn't come to it getting blown to pieces in the first place.
Already talked about the turrets, too. They're not meant to be good.
Why the fuck are you comparing it to the Constellation? It can't carry torpedoes, so how in the merry hell is it going to fit that niche better?
Benjamin Collins
I think the Eclipse will be smaller than this, my money is on a stealth bomber to replace the Gladiator.
