Tight control and general combat. Say what you will about how broken rolls are, the way the characters move and fight feels the best out of the three.
In DaS1 you have backstab meta and massively delayed input queues, in DaS2 you have super floaty movement and lack of invulnerability during backstab/riposte animations (plus the abomination that is Soul Memory). DaS3 is the most "refined" of the three despite what it failed to learn.
Just make a new Pyromancer character and farm them through invasions. Shackles are the second- or third-easiest covenant item to get because you're not restricted to just killing the host.
DaS1 has literally no cheat protection. Go ham.
Owen Rodriguez
nah
Leo Evans
Jesus, that's super fucking cute.
Evan Walker
>DaS3 is the most refined out of the 3 Not really. DS3 tossed in a grab bag of mechanics from older games without really understanding how they would work in combination and the result is a jumbled mess.
Eli Allen
>player chugs in 1 Backstab him or hit him with a stunlock combo for more than the chug heals >player chugs in 2 Interrupt his healing before it begins or nuke him with a high damage weapon / spell >player injects in BB Parry his heal and oneshot him >player chugs in 3 Recovery is instant and rolls are so spammy that you can't do shit without DMB sellsword twinblades or something
>people defend being a chugging bitch in 3 >people defend the objectively and most offensively casualized, hand-holding game in the series
Nathaniel Jackson
Anyone knows if Salt & Sanctuary is worth it with Mouse/Keyboard? My controller is not working properly, sometimes the left stick will go left after being pushed right and returning. On a game about turning right, this means I'm leaving my back opened too often
Connor Sullivan
I need some more feedback for the tier list.
Once again, this is Work in Progress, I will change the entire layout. It won't stay the clusterfuck that it is right now.
Currently only working on text and ranks. Let me know what you think and I'll make some changes here and there. BKGA is going down for sure, and I might bump Frayed Blade to top.
Lincoln Carter
>Hidden body doesn't let you pass through this area Also how do I pass midir on the bridge with no vig? I am unable to make it to the safe spots in time to dodge his fire breath, do I try fire resist stuff or will that do to little to matter?
Jeremiah Cox
Which is better between Lorians and Propaned greatsword?
They seem identical but is there much of a difference between there self buffs?
I really want to use a golf swing weapon and I just realised FUGS doesn't have a special follow after stomp it's just a normal r1 or r2.
Jack Reed
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Jackson Watson
>typical dark souls 3 pvp webm
Why are you so boring now /dsg/?
Caleb Thomas
P.s. I might add spells, miracles and pyromancies.
Ryder Wright
>Lorian's I AM LOW LEVEL BUT WANT HIGH DAMAGE >Propane I AM SHITTING LEVELS AND WANT HIGH DAMAGE
That is the only difference between the two
Lincoln Taylor
Just block his fire with a shield. Aim for high fire resist. It's okay to use a shield you don't have stats for or be guard broken.
Lucas Stewart
>DS3 tossed in a grab bag of mechanics from older games without really understanding how they would work in combination and the result is a jumbled mess you've literally described DS2
Joshua Torres
Run by him.
Carson Turner
What's the best twinking weapon I can grab the base stats for and then just pump vigor with?
Liam Perez
>Backstab him or hit him with a stunlock combo for more than the chug heals You can also do this in 3 though. All you have to do is stay close and wait for him to chug.
Ryder Wilson
Why did you put the MLGS and OB so high up? I love both, but their split damage was always something that bothered. Especially in the case of OB that gets fire damage from it's Blackflame buff (for some absurd reason).
Christopher Howard
Does anyone else get really angry when a phantom that's part of a gank squad bows like it's a legit duel?
Tyler Lopez
>youtube montage >not even a swap of any variety you'll never farm (you)s with such low quality bait
Juan Sanchez
Lorian's for low levels (the wa buff activates on l2, it's basically free). Can also kinda work at ~80 vigvitgouge. Propaned for high level quality build.
Xavier Stewart
Yeah but I need all spells on a single character for the achievement, so getting covenant +2 on a new character won't help with that, sadly.
Luke Powell
raw Astora straight sword dark hand bandit knife literally anything with a good moveset
Luke Garcia
>gravelord servant covenant will never ever work and will never ever be revisited or revamped
Hudson Peterson
I crysral soul spear people sometimes but I have to predict it.
Can punish it on reaction super easy with vestiges or lightning arrow or spears.
Jackson Jenkins
>+50% hp gone from curved sword stunlock
Now I remember why DaS2 PvP sucked.
Hunter Martinez
run up, let him fly behind you. This gives you enough time to run to the first left rock, then once he comes back over you have enough time to run to the left dropdown
Oliver Bailey
I bow everytime on my toons with proper bow.
No matter if it was a 3v1 or 1v1
Brayden Peterson
Auuh...
Christopher Cooper
does any high levelled soul fiend want to password farm vertebra shackles with me i suppose you can be low levelled but then you could just invade for what you want instead
Benjamin Clark
accurate but also the worst looking list I've ever seen
Aaron Nguyen
i get angry when people bow or emote at all
i attack them immediately
Jaxon Gonzalez
Ds3 has one of them post number build rollcharts, right? can somebody post it?
Elijah Smith
>password farm vertebra shackles what do you mean by this?
Jaxson Taylor
>i hate DS2 guise please tell me I fit in
DS2 tried something new and was abandoned by hackazaki midway through development so he could make edge souls SOTFS improved upon it in every way save for removing soul memory They used DS1 as a jumping off point to try and innovate and do different shit and got lambasted for it
Asher White
ringed knight spear doesn't even compare to GFS or plow >pike r1s and shit range r2s b-but you can do slow jump attacks get real.... kid...
onyx blade is shit compared to MLGS, does less damage, 40/40 requirement keeps you from poise stacking
drang hammers are a joke in poise backpedal meta and probably cant l2 infinite anymore
giant door shields have the most broken rolling attack in the whole game
who uses O&U? seriously
greataxe can r1 r2 with warcry as well, is far easier to hit with / harder to parry
Christopher Rodriguez
pretty sure you can get vertebra shackles by summoning via mad sign with the same password so that any two people regardless of SL can do it repeatedly i'm SL 2much so it's hard to do without password unless coincidence
Alexander Smith
Literally only three of the Pyromancies require boss soul transposition (Stray Demon, Wolnir and ODK), with another five found through regular exploration. They're not hard to get at all.
Have you made a Pyromancer character before? They're pretty damn fun to play. May as well experience it while PvPing for Shackles.
Jaxson Russell
Found one more table with more lighting and gfx stuff. This is for Vanilla DaS2.
Onyx Blade is better by virtue of an all around better moveset and range and most importantly, lending itself to a better kind of caster. As a standalone greatsword, it's an inferior clay.
Matthew Russell
Lightanon was also known as Cr8 or Cr8n, since he wore the Creighton set. Zullie worked with him, but they're different people.
Ian Wright
Not played pyro on Ds3, no. My autism makes me want to collect literally everything on my main character before I move on
Jayden Morales
I'll try this one out in a sec. Took a bit to reply since I was messing around with the tables.
I'll see what i can do with this once once i load it up.
Still, if lightanon or zullie read these and still have those light tables, then please post them.
Angel Richardson
Does anyone have a spare Sunset Shield? I completely forgot about that quest this NG+.
Nathan Wright
The one I added (quasar.ct) seems to have most if not all of the things lightanon showed us back in the day.
Jackson Myers
What did M mean by this? Is Vaati here to tell me the lore significance?
Luke Cook
anybody?
Parker Nguyen
so is SSS WA actually any better than deep protection? better in PvP than power within?
Nolan Hill
>Power Within Use: Temporarily boost attack, but gradually lose HP
>This spell is acquired from Grand Archives and provides +30 Stamina and x1.2 Attack Speed per second for a total of 30 seconds.
what did they mean by this
Austin Morgan
Did it finally I bought a few extra seconds by running into his fire attack while it was still on the ground the small damage didn't matter but covering the distance was enough to get me to safety before his next attack.
Carson Foster
I want to make a regular mace-wielding Cleric that looks similar to the Way of White Clerics from DaS. What are some good armor pieces to use?
Henry Reed
>fextra
Luke Cook
Which off hand cross bow would be best to pair with a big slow weapon to stop people from playing so passive and spamming rolls?
Parker Cruz
literally none of them because that's a stupid tactic that only works in invasions
Joshua Rodriguez
post save file
Oliver Wright
Anyone on PS4 want to help me kill the dancer? PW is sundsg, leave your mark at lucerne
Dominic Reyes
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Justin Bailey
Why do you want that?
Gavin Perez
>when you're so autistic that every gesture, not just point down, triggers you into getting angry getting mad at one gesture is dumb enough, but getting mad at all of them is fucking retarded. I bet you get angry when people have a medium shield too.
Sebastian Hughes
>all around better moveset poke r2s are overrated on greatswords, r1 > r2 >range it's pretty minimal honestly, and overshadowed by your pathetic poise >better kind of caster why are you even casting with a greatsword? the fuck you one-handing for? for what? black serpent? lmao
with MLGS you can wear full havels
Brandon Moore
>thinks i care about the gesture >being such an HNOROBUR faggot that you do your pretty little bow before each fight
LMAO
Noah Cruz
You usually have up to 2500 HP in DaS2, that guy was a retard
Hudson Gutierrez
you seem to care quite a bit if you have to rush down someone for trying to wave hello at you also >everyone who uses gestures bows before a duel have you even played past irithyll
Samuel Long
He was also wearing black robes and engraved gauntlets, which gives you fuckall physical defense
I miss r2 combos
Juan Wilson
*PRRRRFFFFFF*
Blake Walker
>sunlight oath into deep protection stacks but deep protection into sunlight oath cancels the former what did they mean by this
Liam Russell
I'll fiddle around with the parameters and some of the other settings to see if I can recreate what I saw.
Thank you for uploading these tables.
Wyatt Scott
Anyone?
Brayden Johnson
Nah, HERE'S the real deepest lore.
Why is the old iron king's Balrog face on the Darklurker's vagina? Answer me that.
Elijah Morris
There's no penalty to carrying around a whole bunch of stuff so you can switch to whatever works best.
If you stick to one or two weapons you're limiting yourself.
Jackson Robinson
I miss DaS2-style counter damage Except ridiculous 140-160 counter for the katanas
Oliver Johnson
What the fuck just happened to me?
I was in Earthen Peak, I get invaded by a White Phantom? He drops a Seed, I pop it, he proceeds to guide me through the whole level, drops 10x effigies, 10x souls, 10x of a bunch of other shit, then leaves?
Jeremiah Cruz
see, you can spot an assblasted das2babby pcuck when the bloodborne hate comes out. why don't you go back to EZ souls 2 and stop whining bitch.
Jace Morales
It makes hardswapping to my Yhorm's after a parry harder.
Zachary Bennett
I suck at souls character creation and wanted to use CE to use your face on my new character, if you don't want to I understand.
Just looked pretty good from the front shot you posted.
Luke Campbell
Faggot that posted pic related a few weeks ago pirating the game here, finally got the game due to the sale.
I have a certain particular autistic way of playing souls games that i've used since Demon's, which is trying to look up missables before i've played the game.
So my question is: what should i look out for and what shouldn't i do?
Jack Butler
I think DS2 and 3 are guilty of this.
Austin Wilson
Some guy got tired of waiting for a summon and took matters into his own hands
Cooper Hill
but that also takes away from the fun of an rpg
Bentley White
If you want to get everything you need to play the game 3 times. You'd might as well do your first run blind and then look up a guide for the rest.
Jonathan Allen
am i the only one who thinks that dark souls 1 is easier than 3
Jayden Diaz
I mean I can understand someone getting creative and invading to help people, but how come he was a white phantom?
Also, since he most likely cheated to get all the stuff the dropped for me, can I get banned for taking them?
Xavier Davis
>invades world >im gonna play nice nice and wave XD
Robert Butler
Your build already determines what you're good and bad at. With 40/40 refined build I can swap to an ultra weapon or dagger, but I won't do as much damage as someone with a pure str or dex build.
It was my attempt at making an ok looking girl in DS1 since another user wanted to, I just ended up using her as my SL1 character. I don't wanna give you my saves, but I did screenshot it for that user. I think I made really small tweaks, but nothing much. imgur.com/a/bUexP
Bentley Cox
There is a ring to make you look like a white phantom. If you also couldn't hit him, he was probably using a glitch that allows you to invade but spawn as if you had been white sign summoned.
Ayden Taylor
There's way too much missable shit to put into a single post. A bunch of the missable stuff is enforced anyways unless you explicitly look up a guide.
Jordan Allen
On my way
Robert Allen
Seed cannot be traded anymore and only lasts for 45 seconds now. Dubious story.
Ryan Bailey
Should this be done with the dlc bosses now?
Connor Richardson
What's the DS3 equivalent to Giant Dad or Havelyn/Smavel? Why is this game lacking iconic memebuilds?
Luke Diaz
>lack of invulnerability during backstab/riposte animations
DS2 had invulnerability during backstab and riposte.
Xavier Bailey
>effigies He's clearly playing dks 2
Grayson Stewart
>STOP USING GESTURES YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN UNLESS IT'S THE WAY I WANT REEEEEEEEEEEE lol
Adam Cooper
problem with sliders in DS1 is they morph differently depending on the order you change things, if you have cheat engine you can just copy the face rip data and that will work.
Jason Adams
>yet another advantage melee users get >In an unsurprising fashion mages would have to sacrifice more rings slots for the utility of another spell
Christopher Edwards
>onyx blade is shit compared to MLGS, d
Doesn't it have better range? I dont care for trading on my casters i just need a get off me button at times