Octane academy edition >What is a "Hot Hatch"? A Hot Hatch is a manufacturer produced, performance oriented variant of a standard hatchback, designed for improved handling, increased top speed, acceleration and generally enhance the driving experience.
>Are all Hot Hatches FWD? No. Whilst most Hot Hatches are FWD, some are AWD or even RWD.
>Isn't FWD shit? No. Just because you can't get the arse out by stamping on the accelerator doesn't mean you can't have fun.
>Aren't Hot Hatches just for Europoors? No; Hot Hatches have been a thing for the US since the 90s, took a dip in the mid 00s and are gaining momentum again.
>missed out on my chance to do Octane Academy for free Fuck my life
Owen Parker
I drove an old Chevelle once. It had racing stripes and everything. Does that count as a "Hot Hatch?"
Jason Lewis
Also Mountune is having a labor day sale. Code is LD17.
Robert Nelson
>What is hhg? A bunch of losers got rolled by some sales shit and bought a smelly overpriced bad FWD shitbox that they can't do anything with.
>Can you have fun in a FWD car? No. Capital words, more white people bullshit. Muh reality distortion field. No. If I just say No, and capitalize the N, it makes me look all intelligent. By the way, I don't have to provide any counterpoint, I can just say No.
>If someone asks a question and there is a rumor, does that mean it is true? No. I mean yes, that's why they're there in the first place.
>Am I allowed to join your secret FWD IRC circlejerk club? No. We're all full, but please want to join it really bad so we can ban you. By the way mine has been in the garage for 6 years, wanted to take it for a spin the other day and the battery wouldn't start. This is OK because this is not about cars, but pretending to be better than you for made up reasons which I can't really get into right now. Let me just say No, No, with Capital N a few more times, No.
Leo Garcia
Why didn't you go? It was a fucking blast.
Angel Cox
I didn't know when I'd be getting leave until the month before.
Jaxon Gonzalez
Ah. That really sucks.
Maybe if you explain your situation they'd let you attend at a different date?
Nathaniel Perry
>I got walked by a hot hatch in my """""""""""performance"""""""""" car and no diaper on earth can contain my level of buttblastedness
Its going to be OK.
Caleb King
I drive a 2011 1.6 Fiesta, basically an ST without the turbo. Any Brits on here who can say how much turbo-ing their car added to insurance? I'm 22 and paying a grand atm
Mason Williams
What if you do it and not tell insurance
That's how it works in burger
Landon Carter
>go to MOT >garage notices a brand new fucking turbo in the engine bay >enjoy your insurance fraud charge
Jeremiah Campbell
I want to hate your car so god damn much, but only because of how it looks and I know thats part of the appeal to why people have one.
How does it handle? Does it get a lot of bodyroll in the turns?
Lucas Barnes
>Being cucked by the government Jew El oh el
That sucks man.
Honestly, really good. Not much body roll but more than my dad's 911. The thing is super neutral in it's behavior. If you find yourself every going in too hot or
Easton Myers
Too wide you just need to let off a tiny bit, or dabble the brakes.
Probably my biggest complaints for this car are >The seats aren't that good >The stock sound system blows >It could use a 6th gear
Dominic James
Hmm, might get a symposer delete.
Have any FiST owners here tried getting rid of the sound symposer? Do you prefer it with or without? Might help me hear my exhaust better with windows up.
Parker Evans
>octane academy looks like literal shit. Why can't they give a proper track day training and have like a 5-10 lap hotlap race at the end of the day.
Sebastian Hill
>The stock sound system blows nigga just listen to the exhaust?!?!?!?!?!
Jose Diaz
The autocross portion isn't too bad, though I would have preferred pure track time
Gavin Baker
>remove turbo before MOT >reinstall turbo afterwards
lel
Jace Mitchell
No?!?!?!?
This is my dude. I'm not autistic enough to delet my sound system
Thomas Davis
Been meaning to do this for ages
It's better if you have an aftermarket exhaust apperantly
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Jesus this is some next level anal annihilation. What happened, user? Wanna get something off your chest? We're here for you.
Blake Morales
>not taking your car in on Saturday morning, slipping the hungover MOT tester a score or two for his night out later that day. "Have a few extra on me, mate. Just keep the turbo shtum." "Yeah mate, nice one." You probably don't have a good relationship with your garage dude if you can't do that.
Oliver Morgan
I'm looking at the rallyarmor flaps for winter. Still undecided as they look kind of faggoty.
Ryan Rodriguez
Have fun with maintenance, those cars are shit.
Jaxson Collins
The octane academy is what me realize what a lame car the focus st is.
Austin Ortiz
So far it's been mild. There's no big problem areas with these yet after being in burger for 5 years, and by the time I get to 60k miles I'll probably be selling it and getting something else
Juan Perry
How?
Ayden James
Terrible seating position Awful interior Torque dip and wheel hop galore. Relatively numb feeling
Pass
Asher Scott
Is this compared to the FiST?
Jason Barnes
Toque steer I meant hah
Benjamin Williams
Just in general.
I actually prefer the focus st over the fiesta. It's way more practical and doesn't feel like it was made by Fischer Price.
I wasn't very impressed with either honestly. My old 2005 srt4 was a better driver's car, and slightly faster stock IIRC.
Leo Hernandez
This is why I went with the abarth instead of a FiST. The fiesta might be objectively better from a numbers standpoint, but the Fiat is just a note engaging car to drive. Plus smol.
Parker Cruz
That's odd, just made me like it more.
Luke Green
>Pass
Buspass, maybe. Though I have to give you the shitty interior. Ford has no idea what a 'good interior' means.
Landon Evans
I like it with the sound symposer delete
makes the car seem more refined
Caleb Taylor
I wish I could've found one of those for a good price when I was looking. I don't have buyers remorse, but the fiesta st was my first option.
Brody Ward
Why on earth would you want it to be more refined?
Christian Jones
where did the hot hatch touch you user?
Thomas Flores
why is there always one fag that insists on posting a veloshit?
Jonathan Parker
I have no clue user, it's like they don't realize that their gook trash is inferior to literally everything else with wheels and an engine
Xavier Cook
post your stang. also they could be a lot worse. could be a chevy sonic RS
Nolan Morgan
kek'd and chek'd agreed, let's see that pony, boy
Owen Howard
Memeboost?
Anthony Barnes
>Terrible seating position well yeah its a hatch so it remains practical, its not a 2 seater track toy >Awful interior only ford (which I have) but the seats make up for it >Torque steer just enough so its fun >wheel hop galore. change RMM >Relatively numb feeling relative to what? its way better than most
Gabriel Sullivan
stock sound symposer is ricey and shitty
Evan Foster
Is an automatic 1989 Hyundai excel hatch a hot hatch Veeky Forums
Aaron Parker
If you manual swap it and change the engine for 4g63, sure
Grayson Nelson
imo the 2017 steering wheel is perfection
Alexander Perez
Is the Matrix XRS considered a hot hatch?
>2ZZ-GE engine and a 6 speed >"sport" suspension >rice bodykit
Zachary Powell
Why is there always one fag who wants to sperg about anothers car choice.
Nathan Williams
Those are actually pretty fun to drive
I would say yes
Mason Peterson
Yes, just not that color.
Angel Clark
how sad does it make you americans that you dont get the m140i godmachine?
Parker Parker
That's not how it works m8, MOT is literally a box ticking exercise and has nothing to do with the insurance.
Tyler Morales
I'm more upset that we dont get the RS Megane.
Adam Ramirez
Haven't seen one of these in a while.
Y'all do anything new to your Fiestas? Looking like I'll have to get mine retuned in order to enable Cobb Traction Control, might take a moment to put on my EWG at the same time.
Adrian Cox
I'm only sad I don't get the ST200.
Eli Rivera
Mountune MR230, pedal spacers, short throw, shifter bushings, stiff exhaust hangars, motor mount, Indy 500 tires. Pretty happy, but if I could do it all over again, I'd have spent less money. Mountune MP215, bushings, pedal spacers, exhaust hangars, keep it simple. I'd also would've just stuck with stock wheels/tires and got steelies for my winters.
Colton Cooper
Any reason you went with the MR230 over a custom set up?
Jackson Powell
Am I allowed in this club with my warm hatch?
Eli Cook
ughh, such an ugly car. Even the New Type R civic is less ostentatious
Aaron Martinez
I don't see why not, they let velosters in.
Elijah Myers
I think the CRX when done correctly is close to aesthetically perfect for a car, I just wish it was RWD and fast. Nothing to be done about the RWD but I'm thinking about engine swapping one.
Luis Ramirez
American velosters are probably quite fast compared to my euro sized little turbo engine.
David Evans
Peace of mind, reliability, quality pieces, resale. Mountune gets more Ford testing data and general support than other manufacturers. Also it was on sale and I had a 15% off coupon code.
Isaiah Brooks
Would rather get a hot clio or Citroen ds3 my dude
Isaiah Roberts
out of the way peasants, best hot hatch coming thru
Levi Thompson
>130hp >literally slower than a 90s CRX Si with worse fuel economy >"hot hatch"
Jonathan Moore
196 hp my dude. that's the hpd supercharged version
Grayson Ward
>still less power than a FiST kek
Cameron Gray
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Adam Martin
Okay so now you're almost as powerful as a stock Fiesta ST but with less seats, less torque, less fuel economy, and you spent more. Meanwhile in FiST land: >tune >220hp >260trq
Dominic Bell
Honestly the more I think about it, the more I'm willing to trade my SVTF for a Fist.
Tyler Harris
do FiST's have the poor reliability of recent year fords tho? had a focus and it was always fucking up to the point where I'm unsure of ever owning another ford
Brandon Bell
Fiesta st is for numales who don't like driving
Mason Mitchell
It might literally be Ford's most reliable car. I've picked up the Consumer Reports magazine, and the only black dot on it was "transmission." But you can't get the shitty automatic in the ST, just a decent Getrag 6 speed manual, so it's not an issue. Someone on the Fiesta ST forums has 281,000km on his (half of them modded) and has only done basic preventative maintenance. Hey fuck you man, I'm not a dick to your car.
James Bennett
>when you're so insecure about your choice of vehicle you have to lash out at people who own similar vehicles in order to make yourself feel better
Samuel Baker
anyone else GTI here?
Wyatt Ward
Honestly I wish my Fiat had a 6th speed.
I'm just keking y'all take some bants. On a related note, the abarth might be one of the most reliable vehicles Fiat makes in the us.
Christian Gray
Forever alone.
Matthew Cox
Just nabbed this for 2k. Inb4 >not a hot hatch
It just dyno'd 323hp/358tq and it's 3000lb on the nose. It's got all stage 3+ parts including suspension and LSD. And it's manual. Fucking quick.
David Morales
lmfao this is the gayest most fanciful post I've ever seen on Veeky Forums
Grayson Thompson
Seeing as how my last one was 308hp I believe it. RIP my old PTGT, got totaled by some old cunt in a suburban last week :(
Leo Martin
quints beats dubs any day
Hudson Harris
Quints confirms BTFO
Caleb King
The GTs have barely 230hp, and that was brand new. An old piece of shit like that will be lucky to put 200hp to the wheels.
FRONT WHEELS.
lmao faggot
William James
PTCuck BTFO by
Sebastian Ortiz
No. The ST's are fairly well put together cars.
Ethan Sanders
I wish dude. I have a couple rattles at 11000km, though that may be because I got sideswiped by a french canadian going 50 over the limit
Thomas Long
Ford build quality is below average for everything they make, that should be enough to influence your decision.
They fucking DEVOURED manual transmissions, countless people complained about this. Clutches would shred themselves too.
If Ford pinches pennies on something as integral as the tranny, god only knows what else they cheaped out on.
Jaxson Wood
>babbys first manual car Hmm I wonder why
Camden Gonzalez
weird man it's just the ford cheap quality making it hit or miss i guess.
I took apart my entire interior lower than the glovebox/upperdash and put it all back together with a few messed up clips. the only rattle i have is from the right side of the stereo next to vents... which i didn't even touch.
most of what i've heard people complain about isn't the clutch. the complaint was usually random synchro failure which ford covered most of the time if you brought it in under warranty
Nolan Morris
>most of what i've heard people complain about isn't the clutch. the complaint was usually random synchro failure which ford covered most of the time if you brought it in under warranty
are you the same guy who posts this stuff every ST/HHG thread?
Dominic Cooper
Dude I just googled that stuff in about 15 seconds, I don't give a shit about your shitty Ford products.
But it's misleading to tell people that these are good cars, and that they're the best Ford makes.
The 5.0 Mustang is probably one of the most solid vehicles Ford makes, and even it isn't amazingly well built.
Stop shilling your econoshitbox, and don't get so bootyblasted by the truth. You intentionally, or accidentally, took a bite from a shit sandwich. Now that you know this, there's no reason to keep chowing down on it. Sell that turd and get something decent.
>The dealer now reports we need a new transmission: $6,500 + tax. We have been told by both the dealer and Ford corporate that we are 1,400 miles over warranty at 61,400 miles, so there is no financial assistance with the repair.”
>buying Ford >ever
Chase Cruz
>Ford did issue a warranty extension for PowerShift-equipped vehicles once again dct only
>Dude I just googled that stuff in about 15 seconds, I don't give a shit about your shitty Ford then leave and don't make stupid posts without research.