BMW wants to get rid of car keys

>phone dies
>can't unlock or start car
>literally any way around this involves carrying a key or fob anyway
GG BMW, no re

>the company's board member responsible for sales
Dropped.

>go to fancy restaurant
>have to give valet my phone so he can park my car
???

>bopard of directors says something stupid
>engineers and sales say that's fucking retarded
>board goes back to being a think take
>repeat ad nauseam

Enough time to park far away and leak nudes from the roastie with the X3 tho, there's a silver lining in anything.

>Battery dies
>You can't enter your luxury car on a freezing night
>The intern gets in his 1994 Civic hatch and VTECs past you

Thanks BMW, you really do provide the Ultimate Driving Machine™

Your key battery could die too asshole

Spare, nigger.

>casuaI racism: the post
Wow

>typical BMW owner
>so fucking stupid they lose their keys half the time
>and their phone the other half
>now you can fuck yourself twice as hard with a single error

BMWfags gonna get BTFO by their own stupidity.

>he got triggered by pewdiepie

wew

Jesus Christ dude literally fuck off right back to whatever shithole site you came from, Reddit or Tumblr either way fuck off

joke's on you, i was only pretending to be retarded

That was the original plan for the Model X, but keys were added just before launch. The keys still use bluetooth instead of just LF antennas for this reason.

Triggered lol

>key battery dies
>can still insert key into door and ignition

Key battery?

The only thing in keys that use batteries are the remote section. Any section associated with starting the car generally uses RFID which only requires the car to be have a charge.

ugh...
old people who think "yeah the kids will love this" are annoying as fuck.

all this smart phone bullshit, everything in life requires a god damned smart phone these days and some fucking app.

now the model 3 is really killing the key. You have a nfc card that you swipe at the b pillar. But, that's really just the backup. It uses low power BT from your phone, which syncs your presets as you step inside.So it'll have adjusted the seats to your liking before you even sit down; makes it easy when more than one person drives it

Not when you are talking about new cars, which use constant LF to see where the key is, authorize different actions (auto unlock, walk away lock, starting the car, etc.). Now only a handful of cars like Teslas and the S Class do things like this, but in a decade all these things and more will be commonplace. Makes sense to use something nearly anyone purchasing a new, expensive vehicle has (a phone) vs. making more expensive/advanced keys.

Yeah..... even cars the us LF always generally have an RFID backup...

Or you could just use a key.

Actually this happened to me the other day
I have a saab and those keys don't fit into the door. In fact I didn't even realise there was a key hole to get into my car, on the passenger side.
What happened was I called the roadside assistant and a guy arrived half an hour later. He told me he couldn't do anything if he couldn't get in the car, which he couldn't because the remote's battery was dead. He called someone else to come who came 2 hours later. Then I tell him what's wrong and I give him the key and he says "I'm pretty sure these have a...", pushed the little saab logo on the back of the key, pulled the top of the remote and out came a physical key
>mfw

>Or you could just use a key.
Making one off keys that can do all that is very expensive. Using a phone that the customer already owns that has lots of processing power is free. People don't like getting charged $300 for a key when they lose it, or $1000 + for a module once too many keys have been programmed a la BMW

>but I don't need no fancy stuff I'm a real red blooded Murican just need muh old fashioned key none of that gay automated shit
Cool, sounds like you shouldn't buy a high tech range topper. However, a huge market exists that is interested in these features and unlike you they can actually afford to buy a new luxury car.

I can get a key cut at home depot for pennies that does all that. The only thing it doesn't do is I actually need to go through the awful torture of putting it in the lock and turning it.

>GERMAN
>ENGINEERING

Now, I'll give you it's mildly fun that I can just walk up to my car and it goes
>BEEP
actually, not. I don't really want my car to beep

>door opens for me
>OPEN SESAME I AM GREAT, ALL POWERFUL HA HA HA HA
whatever

I still push the lock button on the way out so the power locks go, and I don't need my key for that. Nor do I need to have a big ugly start button so I can't even control the starter motor and the car starts getting angry and beeping at me if something is wrong with my shebolith of key use (MULTI-KEY DRIFTING MUCH CONCERN) and then there are 50 more things to break one day when it starts to get old.

There's a reason why people who live in the real world get bits welded or bolted on to their doors so they can hang padlocks on them.

Out of curiosity have keyless ignitions prevented car thefts or anything? I'm genuinely curious what advantage there is over old keys besides the lock wearing out and the 1 second it takes to put your key in.
I think some people have actually had their car stolen because they left the keyfob in the car, but setting that aside, does it make them harder to steal?

>There's a reason why people who live in the real world get bits welded or bolted on to their doors so they can hang padlocks on them.

>Dumb Nu-male loses his Iphone X
>freaks out and can't use his car starts crying
>laugh at him and put my flip phone in my pocket,turn the ignition on my E36 and drive away
Stupid kids and their new technolomgy shits

I've heard locking wheel nuts have earned lots of money for shops who can take them off for you after you lost the key you can get for $5 on Amazon.

It would prevent (or at least complicate) traditional car theft methods like hot wiring or just forcing the key ignition unit but when has that ever stopped thieves?

Oh yeah, that hot wiring epidemic. It's almost as bad as those guys who crack your safe!

Stealing a car is really hard now. It used to happen all the fucking time. Any nigger with a flat head screw driver could do it. Not anymore.

>expansion tank cracks and engine warps

heh

(you)

D-Dont worry that can b-be fixed easliy right?
Better than a-a keyless car

gabe go practice your drums man

now the screwdriver is just software and literally ANYONE could do it, but hurr computers is too hard

GAY

I've been using just a key to open the doors and for ignition for so long that I forgot that those wireless button things even exist.

Why the hell are G*rman companies so hellbent on being complete cancer?

>now they can track us via the BMW key app and sell our data to make extra money

well lemme jus get in the car to charge it.

wait. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LET ME JUST CALL PEOPLE NIGGERS GUYS UGH NORMIES

I have a Nissan LEAF. which was that wireless key fob.

my main worry is someone cracking the key encryption and clone my key. big enough antenna with an amplifier, and you could read the car's key codes from any distance, as long as you have line of sight.

...

Why don't these Orwellian government punks implement RFID and facial recognition in their cars already? It's obviously what they want.

Their attempts in being subtle and careful to not enrage the public is tiring me.

shut up nigger

Normies destroyed it.

Just look at the X1,X4,X6 and 2 Series

>2 Series

The 2 series is literally the best normal BMW nowadays, eat dikke.

>The fact that customers now all carry a smartphone
lol

trips of truth.

my friend who has an '08 E90 accidentally dropped his phone while getting out and he was re-adjusting his parking, ended up crushing his xperia.

It's no secret that car companies want people to subscribe to their own apps with subscription fees. GM has app subscription fees thru your OnStar account and those apps can access more info about the car you can't see otherwise as well as provide additional control features.

Once people get used to paying an automatically renewed monthly app fee, the car companies will continue to make money on the car after the new car sale. And those who buy used cars will continue to give the car company more money thru app fees. Thus a used car is no longer a parasite upon new car sales.

In order to create this environment, car owners need to be steered towards an app-centric environment. Having phones serve as the ignition key is one psychological step towards that.

>when has that ever stopped thieves?
It ups the ante for thieves to mug you for your phone now. In winter, I keep the phone in the inside sealed pocket of the jacket. But in summertime, the phone is too vulnerable as there is no jacket to shield the phone from snatching.

MY EXPANSION TANK IS CRACKED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE pic related....i dont overheat tho...yet

Enjoy not being able to get into your car if the battery dies.

At least these shitty key fobs usually have a backup key hidden in them which you can put in through a hidden key hole in the door.

Christ I'm sick of this shit.
I admit that I am guilty of liking having internet and a decent/good camera on a single device, yet this is getting out of hand.
>The fact that customers now all carry a smartphone and the availability of a BMW App
I don't want this shit. I am sick of being forced into the smartphone industry. I already fear they have all sort of data about me as is, since Google for instance isn't exactly privacy-happy (don't know about Apple and Micro$oft, but can assume the same).
And come to think about it, it will further ensure the monopoly of Android and iOS devices. Same shit happened to Steam, for a reason they thought it's a good idea to have a smartphone if you want to use their whole service, yet from what I heard there is no native program for Windows Phone devices. Even fucking BlackBerry had to convert to Android to survive the market.

Worse. New cars being so hard to steal means that carjackings have gotten more common.

iOS is at least architected to be very secure, so unless Apple built in a back door (which no one seems to suspect so far) you can turn off all the info sharing and have it be private. With Android I can give no such assurance, though.

>apple didn't build a back door
>one of the most popular platforms isn't back doored and zero-dayed to hell and back

How can macfags possibly be this delusional?

all this tech and still no one has invented a mechanism that stops you from accidentally hitting the adjacent car when opening the door

COME ON YOU GERMAN FAGGOTS

>bmw's head of marketing says current manual transmissions can't cope with the torque
>bmw's head of sales says car keys are unnecessary

What is it that makes sales and marketing absolute retards?

So if your smartphone is discharghed you can't open your car? Wonderful

>You have way to high expectations for yuropoors user.

Might be the most retarded thing I've read yet today

I was with you till that last bit
Wut

Cars are just going through the companion app phase
There's a reason this shit died in vidya

Wait, are companion apps still a thing? I thought that died back in 2013 with that autistic iFruit shit.

No its pretty much dead except for iFruit because you can use it to get vanity plates and special colors
>customize your guns at work
>play as commander on your tablet
What an interesting time that was

I like the general idea of reducing bulk in your pockets
but why can't they just make a small passive nfc sticker that you place on your phone, driver's license, house key or wherever
and that automatically unlocks the car when it's within half a meter distance or so

There were already cases of modern cars being hacked or opened with a nigger rigged remote.

NFC is not secure nor reliable enough

Model X has it