ITT: We discuss why automatic is autotragic

auto's take off the line quicker

no, your special GTR manual drag race mode that needs to be programmed in and setup every time you stop and start at the lights does not count

I'd rather have an auto to drive through the city and it's surrounding metropolitan area

The only people who bitch about autos are poorfags who can't afford 2 cars

>auto's take off the line quicker

>what is torque multiplication
There's a reason why people pair their 1000+HP blown SBC with a God damn 2 speed Power Glide

what did he mean by this?

Dare I say this is the Rick and Morty of OPs?

Why are manual drivers always so upset about automatic cars? What's the deal?

typically these people who bitch about automatics drive manual civics, so manual is the only redeeming feature of their car

>tfw 1990's 4 speed auto
>tfw i go the same speed as others driving to work
>tfw that speed is 10

Wasn't so long ago you'd get shat on for driving an auto on Veeky Forums, times change huh.

Yeah, people grew up

Trips confirm, salty poorfags like to hype up the only good quality of their sad shitboxes

have you ever driven a manual car? Yeah automatics will take off faster.

It just means you aren't comfortable enought with a manuel. Enjoy your slushbox shit.

>I bet your oil is 50% fuel 50% water by now

I'm still 12

TT Supra manuel vs auto. I guess you would be fine with the auto because the tranny wouldn't be the only redeeming feature of the car.

>tfw drive manual sportscar and autocuck shitbox for winter beater
jesus fucking christ auto is so god damn fucking boring and retarded.
If i have a bad day I just end up getting angrier on the drive home.
In manual I never got mad, instead I got happier thanks to being able to zip about and use backroads to cheer myself up or heeltoe to redlights to have fun.
With auto none of that is fun so i just get angry at everything.

Autos are fucking garbage. And yes i've driven brand new autos with manual mode and it's the same shit just bit faster.

Elitism, mostly.

keep telling yourself that.

I dunno, considering that literally everyone born more than 30 years ago can drive stick and most of them don't, makes ya wonder what its all about.
I get the engaging feel of it, but besides "its more fun", what other reason is there?
And even way, who gives a shit what transmission other people drive? There is elitism both ways, but its more common in manual folk.

"fun" is something 0% of normies cosider when they get a car.
For them car is nothing more than a living room that gets them to where they want to go and back and carry baggage.
For us car is for "fun"
and "its more fun" is like 90% of the reasoning behind most descisions for car people

gay

>the absolute level of arguments from americans

"Fun" is subjective, though. Someone can have fun in an automatic, but is that no longer valid because of the transmission?
It still doesn't explain the elitism of it. Though this is Veeky Forums we're talking about, so the bar is pretty low.

I'm euro, drove manual for years, got my first amerifat ford with autotragic, will never go back to manual.

It's comfier and faster for city traffic.

>In manual I never got mad

I wanted to kill myself in stop and go traffic and also developed health issues from using heavy clutch in such conditions for a decade to a point that if my auto DD is out of order I can't take my manual truck to work but have to take a bus. My whole leg started to go numb in the end.

You need to get laid and/or smoke a joint user you're getting visibly butthurt over a transmission

...

>the weak are already dying off

Sucks to be wage earner.

Noone says a car with automatic can't br fun. Everyone says the same car with a manual will be MORE fun. If you're an car enthusiast just because you've bought the latest most expensive muscle car foe status, you are a faggot and don't belong here as much as you do on Facebook where you should stay.

>Noone says a car with automatic can't br fun.
See >With auto none of that is fun so i just get angry at everything.
That's literally what every manualcuck says about automatics

>Letting a transmission influence your mood this much
Holy shit dude is this elaborate bait?

I am a manual """cuck""" and I don't say that. You literally took your point and somehow nullify it by being a fucking retard.

I want to drive my car fuck up basic descisionmaking I make with the reptilian part of my brain and take away my control from me.
Driving auto is like trying an early voice recognition software to get to do what you want while you speak in heavy accent

>no performance gains
>no soul
>no mechanical advantage
>always for women and gays

Umm, what?

>early voice recognition software to get to do what you want while you speak in heavy accent
youtube.com/watch?v=_7TacvYrnjI

>tfw too intelligent to drive auto

>no soul
>for women and gays
that applies to drag racing too

Don't worry OP, by 2025 manuals will only exist in DCT.

excuse me where the proofs

>No performance gain
>No mechanical advantage

>what is NAG1 vs. Tremec

youtube.com/watch?v=9LgMTOFJYfc

Classic.

Why does his dash look like a Christmas tree?

The car was on the way to be scrapped, probably fucked beyond repair

This. I like manual but all the increased control etc. goes out the window when you're inching forward at less than 5km/h average up a slight slope for an hour in work traffic. If i could replace my car I'd go from stick to something with optional manual shifting as a compromise.

>tfw want to buy supra celica
>only autos are left on cl

Autos are only “fun” in a straight line
Manuals are fun in any application

I do genuinely prefer manuals.
Benefits or not, they keep me far more connected to and focused on the driving experience.
They're also just more fun.

I'll admit my daily driver is an autotragic. All my motorcycles are manuals, though.

Guess this is 1990 still

I could spend ages talking about "feels" or "driver involvement" but the real reason I will forever stick to manual transmission is winter. With manual you can keep your car in the correct powerband and prevent slippage. Automatics (especially those without manual ode) need to be finangled to not slip.

A computer knows better than you where to shift, sorry bro.

>anyone can "drive"
>there's no difference between foot on floor or a brick on the gas pedal

buy one and swap it then faggot

>even buses
All 43 buses at the company I work at are automatic. Some are automated manual, but those are absolute dogshit for maneuvering in tight spaces. Auto is better for working vehicles, plain and simple, and I say this as a guy who dailies a manual and wouldn’t have it any other way.

wrong

>>tfw want to buy supra celica
>>only autos are left on cl

It's a good thing, they are cheaper and usually you can find a car with bodywork / suspension / engine in better condition.

I was looking for a MKIV for over a year, got one with auto and 2JZ-GE. The body is in excellent condition, it wasn't raced and it wasn't riced. The price was right too. It was sold buy a guy with pregnant wife (it was her car actually).

> it reduces the driver workload which in turn improves

Driving an auto car w/o speeding or hooning is boring as shit so I'm easily getting asleep. Do not recommend. I have to blast music to keep myself awake

this is pretty much the case right here:
>honda civic = best selling car from 1990-2005
>same civic = shitbox if with auto
>same civic is almost a perfect car if manual

as a del sol driver i can't help but feel insulted when i encounter people who bought them with an auto. it actually ruins the car

Commie cuck. Earning a wage was the best thing to ever happen to me

I don't think a lot of Americans realise that by driving automatic, you lose all connection to the car itself.

Auto ef hatch here

The only reason my first car owned was not a manual was because it was a 71 model that I really wanted...and unfortunately, the 4-door version couldn't get the 4 speed manual, only the base 3spd manual and 3spd auto. Granted, it's hard to find them in that good a condition with any engine/trans setup...fuck it feels good to drive manual again.

That is some pretentious shit right there

I prefer manual, unfortunately I can't buy a small diesel 4x4 truck in the states that has a manual as an option and I'm not doing a transmission swap and losing my towing mode and traction control disengagement.

I too enjoy putting more effort into daily tasks that have been obsolete since the turn of the century. When I'm not playing with my cars beautiful long stick and depressing that soft, soft clutch, you can usually find me behind the vehicle with my erect penis inside of the exhaust.

If you think autos are quicker off the line...

it's because you are bad at driving a manual.

A computer doesn't have eyes and can't see when turns are coming up to shift. It doesn't know if you want to initiate oversteer by shift locking. It also doesn't know when you are going to launch so it can't rev and drop the clutch like you should if you actually want to take off. You are an utter retard if you think an automatic is faster, and you probably only think this because you have no ability to drive a manual fast.

Lmao rekt

If you consider driving a daily task you are not a driving enthusiast and should get off of this board. Doing 135 is better than sex and it actually gets you where you are going.

>Auto in straight line
>Put ur foot down and wait for the car to do something
Nah manuels are better for that too

>t.never had sex

I have had sex though lol. I have done alot of crazy fetish shit involving bondage and choking too. None of it comes close to speeding while listening to good music. It's probably because I have been watching porn since I was 10 or 11 so I'm desensitized.

Maybe I should say this instead; speeding feels like jizzing in someone while participating in your favorite fetish only it lasts wayyy longer.

All my motorcycles are manuals, though.
????

You drive a fucking 1.2 diesel. You aren't connected to shit. That's like bragging about using a typewriter.

Nope. The fastest drag cars aside from the top fuels are all automatic. You can use the energy built up in the torque converter instead of wasting it by slipping the clutch.

Do you really think you could beat a torque converter auto much less an 'auto' like a PDK

new auto transmissions are far better and sophisticated nowadays. new 10 speeds shift with incredible ease, manuals are a dying bread, just like these autotragic debate threads

but being able to drive manual means that you have a 300+ iq

>new auto transmissions are far better and sophisticated nowadays. new 10 speeds shift with incredible ease, manuals are a dying bread, just like these autotragic debate threads

What is the best soft drink? What is the best dish?

Hint: everyone thinks his favourite drink and his favourite dish are the best.

Why "modern" automatic gearboxes are "better" than older ones?

Why automatic gearboxes aren't widely used in track vehicles (except drag racing)? Why F1, Nascar, WRC run automatic gearboxes with TC?

but they're also boring as fuck to drive

F1 uses an electronically operated manual iirc. Hell they even have clutch paddles on the wheel

Let's throw some more fuel on this dumpster fire.

Autos are reactive.
Manuals are proactive.

An auto will only drop a gear if the car is already slowing down, where a manual can drop a gear in order to slow down.
Meaning an auto has to rely on foot braking alone which is less than brilliant.
Engine braking + foot braking = shorter stopping distance. No exceptions.

Semi-autos exist which allow you to engine brake, to a degree.
But they are all sequential so you can't do block changes (which are critical to a successful e-stop - seriously, you get tested on this shit), and if you want to select your own gear why don't you just have a manual instead and have less mechanical complexity to potentially go wrong?

There are two things that autos are very good at:
>stop-start town driving in heavy traffic
>letting disabled folk drive
In every other instance of normal every day usage a manual is better.

tl;dr
>if you drive in heavy traffic an auto is better
>if you drive anywhere else a manual is better
>if you drive a long distance it makes no difference as all you're doing is holding your foot in one position
>if you're physically disabled an auto might be your only choice
>if you have neither co-ordination nor proprioception an auto is better

>iktf
there is ultra heavy traffic in my shitty country. are there any tips in a stop and go scenario? my legs start to get numb too specially if im wearing heavy shoes

I want to like manuals but I live in Seattle. This town is made out of traffic and wet hills. I don't buy OPs claim that manuals are better mpg either, not vs a modern auto.

A sequential system like smg can drop gears faster than a person and even torque Converter autos will downshift quick enough under heavy braking. The trans is never going to be the deciding factor in an emergency stop

>The trans is never going to be the deciding factor in an emergency stop
Except 90% of all cars here are manual, and since braking alone if objectively worse at stopping than engine + foot braking it absolutely is a deciding factor.

Seriously. If during your test the examiner has you perform an emergency stop and you fail to use engine braking, you get a minor fault for not stopping as quickly as you could.
Which potentially means you fail if you pick up enough other minors.
And if you do that while going past some point he's picked out as his stop mark (which you won't know about) you just fail.