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Rush Adventure 2 Alternatively Shadow the Hedgehog 2 with Eclipse as the main villian
Leo Ortiz
heroes fucking sucks
Mason Baker
Happy 4th /sthg/.
Levi Parker
Cosmo.
Zachary Lewis
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Jaxon Barnes
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Kayden Martin
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Asher Anderson
Eggman is still capturing animals to put them into robots. One of the Deadly Six shows up to fuck around with it so that the animals are enslaved under their control. Sonic interrupts the process halfway through. The result is a rabbit who was in the machine at the time ends up with permanently robotic legs and a left arm. She comes to terms with her new cybernetic status and decides to use her new abilities to help others. Gameplay is basically Mega Man in the Sonic universe.
Ian Bennett
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Zachary Phillips
People shit on 4Kids, but they had some pretty good dubs. Pokémon, Kirby, Ultimate Muscle, and even F-Zero.
And they also came up with some pretty good songs when they put the effort.
Lucas Hall
Is it wrong to find this adorable instead of cringy?
Nathan Johnson
I'm more bothered by whatever the heck is going on with the ears.
Benjamin Stewart
I don't even think Sonic X was bad.
I think most people who shit on 4kids are just weeaboos and edgelords
Kayden Bailey
>I don't even think Sonic X was bad. Ignoring the edited script and censoring, the Sonic X dub was atrocious. It frequently played obnoxious music, got many details about the games wrong ("That used to be Chaos Control") since they didn't even play the games, and they even use Live and Learn in the SA2 adaptation.
Jaxon Wood
*didn't even use Live and Learn in the SA2 adaptation
Brandon Sullivan
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Kayden Gonzalez
Pokemon was pure cringe. People also forget about the F-Zero anime. It really is dope as fuck. It manages to blend being chill and high-octane races pretty well. Captain Falcon is also absolutely based. It sucks that only Kinnikuman Nisei got dubbed considering the original series is god-tier. youtube.com/watch?v=o5OMmTQARK8&t=334s
Jason Carter
>Kirby dub >good They fucking cut out scenes from the show. They also changed the soundtrack. 4kids is shit on because they did that for nearly every anime they dubbed.
Dominic Scott
I've been struggling to find some way to tie Sonic into my July 4th festivities, but I think I've got it: Post your best times for Empire City in the Generations Unleashed Project. This run took me a few attempts after having not played it in awhile.
Sebastian Parker
Both the US and JP theme for Kirby is so damn catchy.
But that can't really work in the games. While in SatAM and the pre-reboot comics, roboticization was used on both anthropomorphic citizens and non-anthropomorphic animals, in the games and rebooted comics, the animals Eggman uses are the smaller animals. In the reboot comics, it's mentioned that Eggman was testing a new approach for roboticization, so that might have been akin to SatAM, but as of now, we'll never know.
Logan Moore
You really are a bunch of manchildren...
Elijah Hughes
This desu. Have it play like X4. Maybe like X4 you can play as Ant
Colton Torres
The Deadly Six decide to do it to Tails.
Thomas Flores
I just realized that if we battle against Shadow we could get a remix of I am all of me or All hail Shadow, which one do you want?
Jaxon Harris
I think what he means is in regards to the script and acting.
Levi White
>not liking Dedede's sexy Texan accent To the brig with you.
Hunter Perry
Bunnie just happens to be a bigger animal who gets captured regardless. The reason why I included the Deadly Six, much as I hate them, is because they did exactly what I described to try and enslave Tails, so it'd basically be the same thing.
Brody Miller
>Pokemon was pure cringe Are you talking about the dub or the anime in general?
Cameron Cooper
For what reason, user?
Benjamin Bailey
they would also make really /really/ bizarre changes. They would remove text and symbols from signs, buildings, etc. and never replace them, even if the text played a huge role in whatever was going on screen at the time
Bentley Gomez
>he spends his free time to come onto an anime imageboard, goes over to the video game circlejerk, seeks out a general dedicated to a 26 year old game, flexes out his fingers to call the posters manchildren >instead of doing anything productive with his life >considering what he's doing, literally anything at all
C'mon user, look around you, we're all manchildren here. You, me, the people from Veeky Forums to Veeky Forums, what you gonna do.
Carson Foster
Mostly the dub.
Brayden Young
dumbest thing is most of the text was in english. they just needed to fix a few typos here and there
I guess reading is for nerds
Jonathan Ortiz
First of all, it's mentioned that Tails' "roboticization" was done with Eggman's technology and his help, so he could do the same thing. Secondly, Tails was designed as a cyborg, whereas Bunnie's roboticization was interrupted, thus turning her into a cyborg. A more game-accurate backstory would be Bunnie being turned into a cyborg successfully and then gaining control of her body through one of Tails' inventions or something.
John Moore
"Kids today don't read."
– An actual quote from Al Kahn, CEO of 4Kids Entertainment from 1991-2011 who was so bad that even the staff hated him
Ryder Ramirez
>First of all, it's mentioned that Tails' "roboticization" was done with Eggman's technology and his help, so he could do the same thing. But he doesn't actually want to, otherwise he'd do it more often.
>A more game-accurate backstory would be Bunnie being turned into a cyborg successfully and then gaining control of her body through one of Tails' inventions or something. No because then she's a different character. Having the process interrupted preserves that.
Joseph Reyes
>implying you have to be very bad for your employees to hate you >implying kids today read
Eli Bell
the Pokemon dub was actually pretty good for the first 20 or so episodes. With the exception of anything remotely violent (like misty slapping ash in the first ep) being removed and some of the music being changed they actually kept the dub very similar to the original. Even the episode titles were close.
I don't know what happened but at some point Ash and James' voices got higher, all the episode titles changed to bad puns, etc. It was like 4kids wanted to be careful and get everything right with the dub at first but once they realized they had a hit, they started Americanizing it (more than it already was) and stopped caring about translation accuracy
Elijah Moore
was supposed to respond to
Owen Collins
>No because then she's a different character. Having the process interrupted preserves that. Well, she'd be different anyways. You can't translate everything. Plus you still have the whole angst about the robot parts thing.
Aaron Ortiz
So why bother making things more different than they need to be? There's absolutely no scientific explanation behind any of: 1) how Eggman's robots are powered by animals, 2) how the Deadly Six were able to convert that into cyborgification, and 3) how the cyborg parts were able to be fully used by their wearer (in that case Tails) while still being able to be taken off in time for the next cutscene. So the games are perfectly free to make up an explanation as to how a rabbit can become a half-cyborg, or even leave it with no explanation as they have in the past. Keep it simple instead of being retarded with it.
Christopher Powell
It's not that different. The Deadly Six/Eggman "roboticize" Bunnie, but Tails, being a tech genius, invents something that gives Bunnie control of her body. She discovers that she's a cyborg, and cue angst/butt-kicking. She can even have her personality and everything.
Adrian Bennett
It isn't exactly untrue, though.
Jaxson Flores
>"It's not that different." >proceeds to list a bunch of shit that makes it completely different >"But you can make it the same other than that!"
Colton Hill
Why can't to be "She got into an accident and had to get mechanical parts"?
Jeremiah Butler
I want to take a Sonic level and put it in VR. Not as an actual playable thing, but just take the environment and walk around in it. Which level should it be, guys? Which Sonic level do you want to just *be* in? I've got a few in mind, but I can't decide.
Chase Rodriguez
What's the difference? Bunnie gets captured, gets freed from said capture, has angst and recovers from it, kicks butt with Sonic and friends, and has her personality and speech patterns intact from SatAM and the comics? Is it really all that important that the process is interrupted vs. being completed?
Because then she'd be an ordinary citizen. She wouldn't have combat parts, since she's not part of a resistance or anything.
Because you're changing things for no reason when the changes add nothing and serve no purpose other than to make things different for the sake of being different. If I say "let's put Bunnie in the games" it means making Bunnie as accurate as possible with the only changes being necessary to be accurate to the games (for example, no Robotnik roboticization because that's not a thing in the games). If you're going to change more than what's necessary then just make a different character.
Isaiah Rogers
Green Hill Zone! It's always the most sound and familiar place, doesn't it just warm your heart user? I bet you're feeling all nostalgic huh? Don't worry, you can pre-order the upcoming Sonic Forces and Sonic Mania games, both featuring Green Hill Zone! We-uhh, I mean, Sega, would certainly love to see the positive feedback to their loving recreations of your favorite Zone. And then you'll see those beautiful green hills in VR in no time!
Julian Gray
City Escape, or anything from Colours
Angel Bennett
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Alexander Diaz
Emerald Coast
Aiden Allen
The Game Grumps are now playing Unleashed. On Wii. Christ, it's like they're trying as hard as possible to ensure that they get the worst experience possible so they can shit on it.
Great.
Gavin Allen
Okay
Dylan Stewart
No shit. They know Arin's overreacting freakouts bring them the clicks. Dan's laugh brings mine.
Wii isn't even the best SD version, at least PS2 doesn't have to deal with shitty gimmick controls.
Tyler Cook
And I should care why?
Though to be fair I think the Wii version utilises the boost mechanic the best by putting it into one shot segments.
Liam Torres
The wii version can be played with a gamecube controller. And iirc the wii version is better for speedrunning.
Luis Evans
>adventurefags still mad that their game is shit i don't even like gamegrumps
Luis Bell
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Austin Reyes
The point is after all the actual fucking business and promotion the Sonic social media has given him, he responds by pulling out another Sonic game and shitting on it.
Evan Cox
Whether people should care or get into an argument with it is a whole different discussion but what does the Adventure series have anything to do with Sonic Unleashed or their opinion on Sonic games in general?
Blake Stewart
yeah i agree that's kinda shitty actually
especially since he acts like he likes sonic every time it happens
adventurefags got fucking FURIOUS when he played SA1 and it was super buggy and shitty
Julian Murphy
Wonder how many free cupcakes he'll get this time.
Daniel Roberts
also they tend to excuse it with "b-but you didn't play the original dreamcast version!" as if that's a good excuse
Leo Price
Videos about good Sonic games don't get the views. Simple as that.
Josiah Thompson
even if he played a good sonic game he'd be complaining about how he can't hold right to win (even though people were making fun of sonic for that before)
Henry Torres
. So what? The Adventure games were far from the only ones Game Grumps shat on & people get pissed about all the nonsense they've said, not just Adventure games.
I'm pretty sure he shat on the Genesis games, too
Jacob Smith
Okay Adventure series is bad but this isn't Adventure series, this is Unleashed; Where does "adventurefags still mad that their game is shit" come from? Comments? OP?
Jace White
it's just that "they didn't play the right version!" is the typical adventurefag defense
Cooper Bennett
And what does the Adventure games have to do with the video? No one's talking about Adventure but you, for some reason.
Brody Baker
Did people actually say this or are you talking out your ass?
Alexander Rodriguez
This is what I was trying to point out but I poorly explained it.
So what would be a better argument so someone wouldn't be defaulted using "adventurefag defenses"?
Hunter Rogers
you could've just said "oh boy gamegrumps are playing another sanic game even though they hate them" or something like that
Carson Scott
The only time le grumpworm was right was when he said OoT was shit.
William Howard
I'm not that user who made the initial posts but I didn't know that it made that big of a difference and assumption to a person and their "stance".
I guess I'm learning more about people's mindsets.
Ethan Gutierrez
WOW. I had no idea there was actually a sonic general on. How does this shitty franchise still have fans. Jesus christ you really all are autistic aren't you.