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Cooper Brown
Well yeah.
Would you sign up for men's league hockey without knowing how to pass or shoot at least somewhat accurately?
Of course not. Practice the fundamentals, then go out and play with other people.
Kayden Butler
If you don't have a full simulation booth, get the FUCK out of my games!
Robert Smith
when is genki coming out with a new game? that mobile game is just for funding their new console title, right?
right?
Angel Green
Can you pass the /ovg/ pre-race tech inspection?
>graphics cards in order to keep system latency from causing drivers to temporarily lose control of his/her vehicle it now is now mandatory to have graphics card/settings that allow your game to run at a consistent 120 fps on 60hz monitors and 280fps on 140hz monitors, we recommend at minimum an Nvidia 1080 for low settings in rfactor, anything lower than an nvidia 970/amd rx 480 will be sent to the race director for evaluation
>monitors entrants must be able to see all cars to prevent race incidents, at minimum entrants should have track ir, minimum recommendation is triple 16:9 monitors or a generation 1 VR headset such as the rift cv1 or htc vive, developer preview headsets will be have to inspected pre-race by a race director authority
it is recommended to have a friend run a seperate copy of game and spectate to act as a spotter to prevent race incidents
>controllers to prevent incidents players should be able to feel their virtual race car, as such the board recommends a belt driven direct drive wheel
gear driven wheels may pass inspection after thorough testing from a race directing authority
non-load cell pedals will also be subject to inspection and testing from the racing director
gamepads must undergo a 24 hour test with no race incidents under super vision of a race director and have written approval before race, points will still be deducted from pad entrants final score per the casual shitter policy
Brayden Ward
which gt game is this
Isaac Flores
stale
Aiden Allen
interceptors powered by bees makes for close racing
Owen Turner
no but i haven't played with /ovg/ in like a year and a half why am i still here
looks like 6
Grayson Hill
midnight club 4
Evan Powell
not every online race is a league
and if you can't deal with shitters being dangerous, maybe it's you who should quit playing?
Gabriel Hughes
>pcars2 comes out for consoles and pc >it fails because its nearly undriveable with a controller, the main input device of 90% of players due to console owners >james goes full damage control blaming players for not buying extra hardware to play a game
2015 James would've laughed at 2017 James
Matthew Howard
2bh ive been invited to multiple leagues, tried to politely decline by saying "But I don't know how to play sports and I'm out of shape", and they've consistently said "That's the point, it's not the fucking NHL, we play for beer"
Angel Ward
>he's never seen a beer league >he thinks most local small-time after-work sports groups will turn someone away for being bad at sports
Poorfags shouldn't play with me. I won't tolerate someone who doesn't have proper displays or a proper wheel setup not fucking getting out of my way because he can't see and he's playing with a controller. Peasants need to stay home.
Ryan Wood
If you can't save up for a wheel over the span of two years, that's your own damn fault.
At this point it's like playing guitar hero without the plastic guitar.
Justin Miller
>the upper series are all full of drivers who all started as rookie isnt iRacing literally p2w? like, isn't progression tied to how many cars you have, and you buy cars with real money
also lmao those fucking physics wtf
Adrian Torres
guitar hero is perfectly playable with a controller
pcars 2 isnt
Henry Hughes
This is how I know you're trolling.
GH as a game is shit without the plastic guitar/drums.
Ayden Edwards
you have to buy cars but you're not allowed to use them until you're at a certain skill level
Joseph Jackson
guitar hero comes with the guitar though. these games do not come with wheels. in fact, they don't even support all wheels. It's pretty unreasonable to expect someone who just bought a game to go out and buy peripherals for it when they're just trying it out, and aren't sure if they'll like that title or not.
Daniel Hall
You can get out of rookie for free. I think usually you can get to C license without buying any content if you're willing to wait for the right track to come up in the right series, which is what allows on track shitposters to get into GT3s and fixed trucks on a new account when they get banned.
Cooper Reed
you can full combo any song with a controller
cant say the same about pcars2
Jacob Hughes
>the most common video game input device is not supported by a video game >this is the client's fault, and not the developer's fault >you should actively belittle the client for not knowing this in advance, and for being unwilling to spend more money than he's already paid on the game he isn't even able to play
gamers really are filth
Ethan Ortiz
Incorrect. You can use them in leagues/hosted/testing sessions, you just can't run races for irating with them.
>It's pretty unreasonable to expect someone who just bought a game to go out and buy peripherals for it when they're just trying it out, and aren't sure if they'll like that title or not.
These games are built for a hardcore audience. The audience is already obsessed enough with the subject matter that buying a wheel isn't a big ask for them.
Technically, yes you can FC a song without a plastic guitar. Is it a shit experience? Yes.
Rocksmith.
Checkmate.
Aaron Myers
wow thats just as dumb, really
are they appealing to the trainfan style market or something who just collect DLCs of autistic low-res recreations of liveries no non-autist cares about?
Chase White
i played dark souls on kb/m even though it was the worse experience and i did just fine, fully understanding that i had a worse experience than those who were using gamepad in fact, i do this in rocket league, a game that 100000% is not meant for keyboard and mouse and i have a ton of fun with it just enjoy a game, stop worrying about whether you're the best or whatever, find a community that fits you and have fun, fuck
it's appealing to a market that wants really well-balanced, high quality races at any time, which it delivers i personally don't care for it but it works for the audience that desires it
Jordan Torres
no one is arguing that a controller is a worse experience than a wheel
im saying that pcars2 is U N P L A Y A B L E with a controller
not able to be played or played on. "hit a high-bouncing, unplayable chop over second" (of music) too difficult or bad to perform.
Asher Carter
rocksmith is explicitly a tutoring tool.
As well, from wikipedia > Rocksmith was also sold as a bundle that includes the game and adapter, an Epiphone Les Paul Junior guitar, strap, and 2 picks. >an Epiphone Les Paul Junior guitar, strap, and 2 picks.
Caleb Wilson
>in fact, they don't even support all wheels. yeah they do I cannot think of a single steering wheel available right now that doesn't work on PC, and games usually support generic mappings for really old or obscure ones.
This market has been around since the very beginning of 3D gaming, if you don't realize you need a race car controller to play pretend race cars you're kind of a moron.
Owen Garcia
>and games usually support generic mappings even forza doesnt properly release the bullshit steering issues unless you have a Logitech wheel, or the Microsoft-branded one for XBox 360s
Gabriel Gray
Got damn Forza motorsport 7 looks so fun. its a shame they fucked up career mode so badly trying to get rid of leaderboard cars by confining all cars to a certain category you can't drive them out of... no more racing muscle cars with JDM no more racing modified super cars with race cars. the collector level forcing you to buy cars you don't need to unlock others also fucking sucks.
Austin Hall
>im saying that pcars2 is U N P L A Y A B L E m8 we already know that
Robert Anderson
A lot of iRacing's business comes from people buying tracks so they can rush to the next license level. The actual safety requirements to get each license are pathetically low so that all but the most ginormous retards can be eligible to race every car.
>even forza >implying forza has good controller support
Carson Foster
>Rocksmith If you're referring to the bullshit DRM thing where you have to use a Rocksmith RealTone(TM) Cable, the community patched that so you could use whatever aux to usb cable you have lying around. I know another guy who uses it when he practices on his guitar. Only thing with racing games is I can't suddenly take the wheel and pedals out of my car and use them to play racing games with.
Or if you mean the need for a guitar, see since they were sold with a basic Epiphone guitar along with the game and cable. Not bad price eithet considering you're getting $50 off the guitar along with the game and cables to play. I think my setup for Rocksmith cost me
Ryan Green
apparently the SMS employee doesnt. i dont blame him though its obvious no one bothered touching an xbox controller over at ian bells leather dungeon
Brody Mitchell
>This market has been around since the very beginning of 3D gaming, if you don't realize you need a race car controller to play pretend race cars you're kind of a moron.
Put your trip back on, me.
>im saying that pcars2 is U N P L A Y A B L E with a controller
Is it really? I've seen people bitch on Reddit that they're having a hard time, but it's counter-acted by "here are some settings that make the game great for controllers." I've also seen people post vids of them driving and they're honestly just ass, a wheel wouldn't fix braking three car lengths too late or entering a corner two car widths away from the racing line.
Landon Perry
>rocksmith wasn't a commercial failure that most people considered to be inferior to the DVDs that come with cheapo guitars
>comparing rocksmith, an electronic guitar tutor that actually did come with a guitar, to a racing video game that just refuses to support the most common video game input device on the planet and doesn't indicate as such before you buy it
>comparing rocksmith, a game with zero community but in the context of a community that frequently partners up with people with different input/output devices to great effect, to AC, rFactor, etc. which do have communities that belittle people who try to play them without the "correct" input device and even then argues incessantly over which of those "correct" devices is the most correct
Gamers.
Isaac Fisher
desu collector level is invalid after about 3 days the series is fun though. some of the most fun ive had on any racing game the racing is extremely clean too. very few instances of contact. even the crown vic racing was clean despite the jelly suspension and dorito power
Blake Wilson
At this point your argument is just silly.
Gonna reiterate what this dude said:
>I cannot think of a single steering wheel available right now that doesn't work on PC, and games usually support generic mappings for really old or obscure ones. >This market has been around since the very beginning of 3D gaming, if you don't realize you need a race car controller to play pretend race cars you're kind of a moron.
Jonathan Jones
in googling it i actually found for the new ones, while it includes a cable, it says you can use any cable, but also supports using a microphone now, which is pretty impressive
Liam King
>Is it really?
yes it is, and looks like you fell for the usual WMD backer tricks of "if you do xyz it completely fixes your issue!" when it actually doesnt
Nolan Evans
>hardcore audience vs >300bhp on gravel
which meme will last longer?
Levi White
people have been playing racing games with controllers probably for longer than clamp-on wheels.
Perhaps it is a bit foolish to not support and sometimes even actively punish paying players who would rather use a device they already have than going out and buying new ones. If anything, they'll never get ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~hardcore~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ because they can't see what the games have to offer at any level at all ever unless they go out and shell out for a giant sim station
Aiden Flores
>you need a race car controller to play pretend race cars false statement
>but muh hardcore audience
Carson Ross
complaining about casuals tournament next month be there
Michael Russell
>"here are some settings that make the game great for controllers." they dont work they never work
>drive over 55 >steering column welds shut >drive exactly 54 >have all the lock in the world
its shit and you are shit
Ryder Hall
I'm wondering if that got changed in the remaster that released late last year that they removed the requirement to use their cable. It was a rather easy patch that they probably said fuck it anyway. The mic thing has been around since 2014 I think, I know I can use my mic for vocals while I strum to the song. The remaster also changes up some things like skill requirements and give you better tracking of your progress to show you how far you've come playing guitar.
Either way, despite being a singleplayer/two player game the community support is fantastic for it. Totally recommend it if you want to jam.
Samuel Gonzalez
>people have been playing racing games with controllers probably for longer than clamp-on wheels. pretty much the very first analog controllers were flight sticks and racing wheels, so uh
Daniel Wood
>people have been playing racing games with controllers probably for longer than clamp-on wheels. This is only true because you're an asshat and included "clamp-on" like it was important.
Hunter Reed
>Totally recommend it if you want to jam. i don't but ok
Ryder Moore
>backer trick
I'm sorry I'm not stupid enough to play a high fidelity racing simulator with a pad in the first place.
Kevin Rogers
Pcars 2 was bac because you're associated with it
Nathaniel Kelly
>comparing quarter-munchers to a home gaming experience you paid 120 euro-australian bitcoins for
Brandon Price
>collector level is invalid after about 3 days What do you mean? you don't need to collect a certain amount of cars to get access to others anymore after 72 hours or?
William Brooks
>Rocksmith. >Checkmate. rocksmith not only comes with a guitar but it supports literally any electric guitar that has a 1/4" output jack, and you can add a pickup and output to any acoustic guitar.
gamers are scum and all deserve to die
Nolan Torres
>its not a game its a simulator
Looks like you became just like the iRacing simdads you used to laugh at
my my
Adrian Diaz
>I assume most people don't even bother looking at the controller settings, so the devs prefer to give you a smooth but limited steering rather than a full but barely manageable one and be drowned in negative reviews and comments of people complaining the cars are undrivable. looks like they fucked up then because one of the most common complaints after "the controls are shit" is "the cars all perform like they're on ice"
Easton Cruz
>you will never challenge the shitters of /ovg/ with a ghettorigged telstar arcade wired into a G29 board
it's the neGcon life for me
Jack Morgan
>rocksmith not only comes with a guitar but it supports literally any electric guitar that has a 1/4" output jack, and you can add a pickup and output to any acoustic guitar.
The more you keep typing this, the more you look like a deranged sperg.
Easton Clark
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Josiah Bell
it is important, it differentiates home stuff from permanent fixtures like arcades and actual simulators
niggas playing shit on the intellicalicotaricom didn't have wheels, they had that bullshit number pad and weird dial
even in modern gaming, it's pretty rare to find someone who owns a wheel who isn't a simdad autist. most players play things on gamepads or kb+m
>Rocksmith doesn't always retail with a guitar. yeah because it's a tutoring tool and people would want to use their own guitar. if you want to start from scratch you can buy the one with a guitar. standard racing games don't exactly come with wheels, and don't even support all wheels, and don't support anything but wheels. it's a wonder they even come with cars! oh wait they don't, like iRacing
Alexander Carter
Yeah but I can buy a hotdog and eat it in a slice of bread instead of a roll lmao checkmate
Jose Jackson
no he means you level up so fast it's irrelevant within 3 days.
Landon Turner
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Jaxson Fisher
>niggas playing shit on the intellicalicotaricom didn't have wheels, they had that bullshit number pad and weird dial there absolutely were wheels in the era of shitty arcade ports see right above you >even in modern gaming, it's pretty rare to find someone who owns a wheel who isn't a simdad autist. most players play things on gamepads or kb+m sure, in the same way that a lot of people in the early 90s didn't use mice but there were a lot of games that were specifically designed for and played better with one
Justin Murphy
How does playing mode 7 games on a digital controller even relate to muh analog joypad autism
>it differentiates home stuff from permanent fixtures Home steering wheels weren't clamped on in the old days to start with.
>even in modern gaming, it's pretty rare to find someone who owns a wheel who isn't a simdad autist because the normal people don't bother arguing about these things - survivorship bias basically. it's not too difficult to find them, but it's easier through small-talk than through sim racing forums
Thomas Stewart
>Created by gamers >not tested by gamers though >muh e-sports that explains why it's so shit
Dylan Davis
Man this fucking thing by the way
I can't even name a kid on my block, let alone a kid that had a console, let alone one that played racing games at all.
Ian Garcia
i thought we were talking about racing not soccer but i guess moving goalposts is cool too
Josiah Ortiz
>because the normal people don't bother arguing about these things I disagree, I run into this shit constantly
Kayden Nelson
>finally finish 2nd satsuma >dev added engine rock >nervous.webp I forgot how slow it is stock. Hopefully it doesnt overheat at 100km/h like it used to without the sport radiator.
Christopher Flores
name even one child
Jacob Cruz
>Rocksmith doesn't always retail with a guitar. You have options though.
The point is you have plenty of options to choose from here, depending on how much of the equipment you need to get yourself started up. If you're feeling cheap you could always buy some $50-$75 guitar, then buy a aux to USB cable and then Rocksmith 2014 on a sale. The nice thing about Rocksmith 2014 is that you not only have the choice of playing lead or rhythm guitar, but you also have the GOAT bass to learn as well.
Kayden Gray
>niggas playing shit on the intellicalicotaricom didn't have wheels they totally fucking did the Coleco Telstar Arcade I posted has a wheel literally built into the console.
This one was made by Nintendo in 1978.
Ethan Adams
>but guitar hero is playable on a pad anyway if you really wanna be a madman
Exactly. Playable, but certainly not ideal. Unless you are certifiably insane, Hard and Expert difficulties aren't possible for the average person to attain.
>There is a legitimate reason why most games default to high reduction of lock at speed, and it's because the cars would be twitchy as fuck because you are trying to replicate hundreds of degrees of wheel rotation in the tiny ass space of a controller stick.
You cannot make a racing simulator work flawlessly with a pad. You are advocating for something that will not provide a gameplay experience on par with the dedicated third party peripheral.
Why is this so difficult to understand? Why do you continuously insist on using a sub-par means to play a game when alternatives are out there and people generally agree that they are worth the money and add a whole lot more to the game?
This is an insane level of self-sabotage. Intentionally not buying a third party wheel when a genre of games have been built with third party wheels in mind, and then crying that the games are too hard and not as fun.
Colton Reyes
>go to check how much pcars actually costs >finally find the "buy for PC" button >HTTPS error, invalid certificate, expired >add exception >it's a redirect to bandai namco >to their generic PS4 section THE ABSOLUTE STATE
Jayden Hughes
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Juan Rivera
look at this fucking tryhard
Luis Green
that's not a kid, that's a series of drawings pretending to be movement
Levi Lewis
>You cannot make a racing simulator work flawlessly with a pad.
assetto corsa is playable with a god damn fight stick
Dylan Taylor
I also didn't name her
Parker Evans
That's some reaaaaaaaaaaaaal optimal looking steering there fella
>front tires are cooked after half a lap
Colton Evans
>You cannot make a racing simulator work flawlessly with a pad. who is talking about flawless, the argument was about "playable" [at all]
>james in charge of making arguments
Ryan Scott
fight stick world record buddy bow down to the king
Justin Adams
i think the answer you're looking for there is "pcars is garbage". If you want to use a keyboard or a controller there are much better games to play from many eras.
William Allen
You murdered your left front tire in turn one.
In the Mercedes Arena you missed the apex by two, almost three car lengths. This mistake was enough to lose 2-3 positions in a single corner alone.
At the 46 second mark, both tires are cooked.
By the end of the lap your left front is nearly destroyed.
That was absolutely horrible driving.
Cooper Murphy
feel free to post your fight stick lap
Henry Howard
>"why are you even trying to play simulators without a wheel? it's a sub-par experience!" >james, what do you think about rally 2000 >"i tried it with a gamepad and it was shit" >'rally2k btfo.png' saved!
Easton Martin
>YOU CAN'T PLAY SIMS WITH A PAD! >someone posts evidence >REEEEEEEEEEEEEE god you're pathetic.
Lucas White
The negcon is hardly a regular controller.
Jose Walker
to be fair, if you drove that lap with other people around you would crash out and it would 1000% be your fault
Zachary Bennett
Why the fuck would I own a flight stick? I don't play flight simulators.
If you call missing apexes and nuking the tires every other corner "playing".
