University fag, don't know what to buy. Have a budget of around 15k and need some suggestions.
Wants:
RWD (will consider hot hatches) Fast-ish(0-60 preferably in the 5's) 4-6 Cylinder (No 8) Newer than 2010 (Insurance and discount purposes)
I have been researching for months and seems like my RWD options are limited only to BRZ/FRS, 2011+ Mustang V6, 2015+ Ecoboost or V6 Stang, 2015+ Camaro 4banger, Genesis V6 or 2.0t, G37 Coupe, BMW 135, 335i. Anything I am missing?
As far as FWD options I have to choose from: Focus ST, Fiesta ST, GTi, 2013+ Civic Si and that is pretty much all the FWD I care about.
So much to choose from, what is best bang for buck?
Yeah, my age (20) it would just be too much, not worth it.
Noah Ward
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Juan Ortiz
FRS/BZ 2013-2015 you can afford, and best bang for bucks
Connor Campbell
Would you still choose that over say maybe a 2015 Ecoboost with a manual for 1.5k more?
Only 20k miles
110 more hp and a turbo
Robert Williams
Just bought an 81 Corona for 300, try something like that.
Ethan Jackson
>babby's first trust fund Ask your boomer parents faggot
Charles Gonzalez
I hate bike shills, but it really sounds like you want a bike.
Bentley Miller
C A D I L L A C
Benjamin Flores
>Newer than 2010 Insurance have you actually looked into the insurance rates of older cars because at least over here (germany) an older powerful car (e36/46 m3) is usually cheaper to insure for young people than the current generation of boiracers' hot hatch of choice
Camden Walker
get a fiesta st, seriously best bang for buck, if youre insecure get the focus st
Michael Ward
mazda 3 can be in the hot hatch section. Veloster too if you want gookshit.
Sebastian Wright
Toyota Camry
Connor Watson
If you're paying for university why are you budgeting 15k? Maybe you're rich and all your loans are paid off, whatever.
Do you need 4 doors? Considered the Nissan 370z?
Grayson Flores
BMW Z4
John Thompson
mad poorfag is mad. 15k aint shit
Mason Jackson
I saved for 1 1/2 years downpayment money and have had steady employment for years and been driving around cash cars forever. My monthly will be very small even a mcjob w/ 10 hrs a week can afford so long as the down payment is good, interest rate and loan duration is low.
You dont have to be rich to have a nice car lol, keep crying about people that can afford more car than u that will get u places.
Top of my list so far is 6mt ecoboost mustang or focus st.
Whoever said newer mazda 3 is a hot hatch, its not its so slow without its turbo
Jordan Stewart
Whether it's shit or not, if you're not paying your student loans as fast as you can you're pretty stupid.
Christian Barnes
>wants sub 5 second car >is concerned about insurance I'm not a doctor, but I think you're retarded
Leo Price
Hot hatches and 6 cylinder 2+2 coupes and sedans usually arent too bad for insurance and most reach sub 5 sec 0-60's. Idk about 4 cylinder Stangs and genesis coupe tho. Frs shouldnt be too bad from what I gathered
I dont have student loan debt. Parents saved and I got good scholarships.
Angel Reed
You dont need a fast car, especially these days when you're going to be stuck either in traffic or behind traffic lights.
Reliability and price re god these days.
Dont get memed into pointless muh fast but impractical cars by the idiots here.
Leo Barnes
The mustang ecoboost, its a pretty sweet looking car, it has a lot of performance over 300hp, and saves gas
Connor Campbell
You can get a mazdaspeed3 for 15k easy, would be around 50-60k miles at that price if you're a bit patient maybe a bit lower
Zachary Scott
buy a civic
Landon Carter
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Colton Harris
fiesta st best bang for your buck.
jeremy clarkson himself said its the most fun car on normal roads in his review of the civic type r so let that sink in
focus st and golf gti have potential to be actually fast. gti with a proper tune is a beast.
If you really want rwd, save a little more for the 15+ ecoboost.
you could get a c5 corvette pretty easily and smoke everything else though, don't know why you wouldn't look at them. insurance is actually cheap because they're mostly driven by old men
Mason Cruz
Mustang. V6 or ecomeme...i would get the V6 but people swear by ecomeme so w/e. The s550's look great.
Hunter Myers
135i with a tune >bmw badge so bitches dig it >fast stock, faster with a tune >later model years increase in reliability >handles great and is fun to toss around >reasonably comfy
>kind of cheap interior for a bimmer >features pretty limited >reliability is strong-ish but read up on common problems
i'm really not sure what your budget is on repairs, and if you can do all the repairs yourself at a friend's garage or something
Austin Richardson
>unironically recommending a v6 mustang
you are a fucking idiot. remove yourself from the gene pool asap
Brandon Turner
No, that's a better buy
Colton Cook
Why? I'm paying them all off in 10 years, sure I'll throw some more money in every once in a while but it's whatever, I'm making 65k a year right out of school and I need a car that I want to be useful for a minimum of 5 years. The amount of interest that I would pay off by paying it a year or two earlier isn't worth what I can be putting into my 401k and investing.
Ian Wilson
Civic Si
Wyatt Johnson
Buy a Toyota MR-S and forge a fake Vin for your insurance.
Nolan Miller
Too bad you didn't study enough to get a good scholarship hehehehahahehe
Zachary Edwards
Wow we are in the exact same situation hahah, I've been looking at pretty much exclusively v6 mustangs.
Logan Green
NEVER FINANCE A CAR! EVER!
Buy the cheapest shitbox you can afford. If you unironically buy a 3k civic you will have the same operating costs as a mustang but will save money now. You do not want to be saddled with such a high interest rate on a asset that depreciates so quickly.
Tyler Thompson
>4cyl mustang okay user, enjoy your cuckmobile
Brody Martinez
I already have a cheap shitbox. I'm beyond that poorfag bullshit, I want a real car.
Jayden Hill
>I'm beyond that poorfag bullshit no you are not if you don't have the cash to buy a real car
Noah Wilson
You are not 'beyond' anything, wanting to pay interest (even low interest) on a rapidly depreciating asset such as a car (even a "real car") is precisely the definition of "poorfag bullshit". If you be paitent, save your money and buy your real car when you can pay the full price and not finance a dime you will be much better off in the long run.
Benjamin Cooper
Who tf pays cash for $20k+ cars besides richfags, much smarter to spend 5-10k for a down payment and save/invest the rest.
A car isn't a fucking investment, its a hobby I love and enjoy everyday, and having a bumfuck 3k civic is not enjoying your hobby.
I already financed a car before, sold it and it was no big deal for me. Christ you people that have never financed a car and drive 3k shitboxes have no idea what your talking about
Charles Williams
Bump for suggestions
Connor Bennett
I would suggest xr6 turbo because its better than anything you listed, but you can't get that.
Ethan Roberts
just get a civic for 3k. there's time for nicer/faster cars in a few years after you get a decent paying job. having that cash on hand would be good if you needed to pick up and move cross country for a job or you'll be closer to a down payment on a house if you don't live in the bay area or so cal or the northeast.
Ethan Wright
>getting a loan to buy a car
Loans are for investments user, cars are not investments (unless you need a specific vehicle for work).
Tyler Jenkins
>I'm beyond that poorfag bullshit
Evidently you are NOT beyond that "poorfag bullshit" if you need to finance a car, in fact that is stereotypical poorfag behavior - to finance a car beyond your means so that you may appear richer than you are.
Jack Lopez
my AE86
>its a meme bros
Joseph Perry
Try to get something that will hold its value well so you can sell it for relatively the same price you paid when your done with the loan. idk wrx? clean s2000?
Luke Wood
that what I'm doing with my car I paid 30k$ last year I have 7k$ left on the loan but its a wrx so it should still be worth a good amount in 5 years. eh not bad
Ayden Gomez
You can get all 3 at once in Australia Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo, or an SS Commodore
Gabriel Green
Focus ST is AWD.
Stick to the fiesta if you need a FWD. If you need to daily drive a car while you are at college and you have 15k IGNORE fun driving or anything expensive. Priorities are priorities.
I heard really good shit about lexus tho.
They are like hidden poor mans nissan sports cars.
No cash for a 370Z, a GT86 or STI? Get a V6 RWD Lexus.
Nolan Long
>Falcon Just don't get an auto or the radiator will bust into your tranny warmer/cooler at exactly 170,000ks >SS Commodore Just don't get it at all.
Parker Ortiz
Focus ST is fwd. Are u high?
Carson Cooper
7 series for 3k
Aiden Powell
Yeh hes thinking of the RS
Lucas Cooper
My BA is an auto at 325,000km and it hasn't had any transmission/radiator problems
Jason Martinez
Maybe the turbs run a separate tranny cooler.
Kayden Green
another uni fag (texas) looking to spend max 25k. I was looking at a wrx sti. any other suggestions?
Easton Sullivan
Op here. Not much advice going around. Just a bunch of poor people telling me how I should own a 3k civic until im married with 2 kids and 50 yrs old.
For 25k Mustang GT S550, WRX will be best choice because it holds value real well. 235i's are good as well as.
Luke Allen
Mustang gt's are fun. Don't settle for ecomeme four banger bullshit.
Owen Reyes
>"but I want it now daddy!" No son, not 'til you're older....
>wasting the best years of your life driving no fun shitboxes and not enjoying your passion.
Why is Veeky Forums full of anti fun fags all of a sudden? Thought we all enjoyed cars here
Henry Lopez
Overpriced. Dont go over budget hell you cam get a 2015+ wrx for under 25k.
I can find the previous generation subies for well ober 25k with low miles amd good condition
Landon Walker
S2000, Fiesta ST, Miata, E46 ZHP, Golf (MK6?). I would avoid the 135 and the 335 like the plague.
Jayden Taylor
Until the turbos go and its $5k to replace. I'll never own a 135i. Fucking garbage car.
Robert Flores
Not 'til you can afford it son, not 'til you're older......
Jonathan Flores
Already owned an e46 amd a miata. S2k is too impractical and fiesta st is too dinky lookin for me and cheap on the inside.
Top of the list for me is FoST or FRS/BRZ unless someone can convince me the mk6 gti is worth my time.
Mustang V6/ Eco is best bamg for the buck from my research however
Hunter Ward
The v6's are a little under torqued in the low end but still fun to drive. BRZ's look cool but slow.
Hunter Evans
They probably do, considering how much more power they're pushing
Robert Sanders
135i, BRZ or 1LE camaro are all excellent options
Jackson Garcia
128i and mods
Leo Howard
Seeing this chart has made me realize that my car is not cheap, reliable, or fast. Good thing those aren't the only qualities I look for in a car.
Ethan Murphy
FD Rx7 is for you
Hunter Rogers
Dumbest suggestion of the thread award goes to....
Austin Walker
The plastics are pretty cheap in the 350z and 370z, they're overpriced imo even used
Brayden Murphy
I agree with this guy. I own a 2014 V6 mustang and I wish it handled a little better, I couldn't go back to anything slower though, even if it had superior handling.
2015 ecoboost is going to handle a lot better but then you're stuck with an engine that dies out at the high end, sounds like an inline 4 and has been starting to show some reliability issues (moreso on the focus RS version tho).
If I could do it again I might have gone C5 corvette, they're right around 15k and really get pretty good gas mileage (although you have to run 93). Not sure about insurance though because of that displacement.
John Miller
Get a used mk7 gti, you can find them for 17k out the door and they are the best. 27mpg on the highway and it’s a blast to drive. They’re quick enough to be fun but they get scary fast with cheap tunes.
Owen Anderson
Whoops, that’s should be 37mpg!
Isaiah Bailey
>University fag, don't know what to buy. Have a budget of around 15k and need some suggestions. >Wants: >RWD (will consider hot hatches) Yes >Fast-ish(0-60 preferably in the 5's) It can go 60mph >4-6 Cylinder (No 8) Go Devil 134ci 4 cylinder >Newer than 2010 (Insurance and discount purposes) Newer than 1910, progressive will insure it on the cheap
1949 Willys Jeep. You can't go wrong.
It's also 1300lbs, superb for handling!
Can be had for 5-12k and easily modifiable.
David Green
this but unironically
Robert Wood
This and put a turbo in it
Jaxon Flores
Not the current gen. You'd have to look at Mazdaspeeds or last gen 2.5 Mazda 3s to consider it a hot hatch. The new ones can't really be considered in the same bracket as the STs or a GTI.
Hopefully these upcoming turbo Mazda 6s sell and Mazda can get their head out of their ass and make a good hot hatch again. But they did flat out say that they likely will never make another Mazdaspeed because I guess they're too grown up now and need to focus on crossovers.
Alexander Adams
>5k to replace
i know they aren't reliable but that's a lie. i have the 328i. it's more than bulletproof. i'd say the n52 is the most reliable modern engine period
Isaiah Reyes
ls the world
Asher Jenkins
??
Joseph Wood
How expensive is the maintenance for a 2014 GTI?
Julian Lee
I like my fiesta. Its fun to accelerate and turn fast. I generally cruise at a low speed, but could go fast if I felt like it. Love how tiny it is for parking and maneuvering. Exterior design is meh, but love the interior and a new car is not much more than a used one. Probably the only car you can consider buying new.
Dylan Nelson
>Giving financial advice on a board that caters to automotive enthusiasts
Juan Reyes
A 3k civic is fun. You've obviously never driven one on a twisty road. No, it's not as fun as a mustang gt but it costs less than what your down payment should be.
Aaron Howard
vws are trash.
Angel Scott
News flash, not everyone wants a 25 year old economy car.
Landon Thomas
well everyone in school needs one.
Camden Torres
You're a fucking university student taking on a huge responsibility and debt for your education and you want to buy a car.
Why not take 12 of that 15k, spend it on paying off your loan, take the 3k civic
Jace Gutierrez
>$15k FD
But then he'd need another $10k to unfuck it
Mason Cooper
You dont know me lol. I have no student loan debt. This isnt a finacial advice board faggot give me suggestions for my budget or gtfo.
Tired of poorfags shitting up my thread with muh 3k civic meme.
Pic related is current shitbox
Colton Fisher
Well at least you're right on something.
You are in fact driving a shitbox.
Aaron Ortiz
Your right, spent $3,200 to buy it, didnt want a civic so fell for the 3k G35 meme.
Parker Hill
>g35 >shitbox I think we have a much different standard for shitbox