I worked for a chain of automotive repair shops as an apprentice, little about me before you judge, I'd show up early and drive the vehicles in the shop out, I'd cover shifts when they called me and someone else was sick, my only thing is I'd always take my half hour break, I am hourly so due to Ontario workplace law I thought I was entitled to a half hour break.
I've only been there 5 months but I figured taking my legally allocated break was ok long as I clocked out.
So basically I show up one day to work and my boss had already hired two newbies I was basically fired and one of the reasons he gave was my need for a break, he also listed that I seem to have bad luck his example relates to the photo
I contact the labor board and all I'm entitled is a weeks pay wtf
Take it as a sign and quit being a mechanic its aids job
Ryder Nguyen
Dont let it get you down user. Be adaptable and realize that know you get to go find another job and hoepfully find one that doesn't suck ass like this one did. Appreciate the opportunity to leave a tard convention like that.
Owen Thompson
>So basically our laws are pointless Yes...It is an eye opener isn't it?
Ethan Thompson
Yeah man, I'm 23.. Keep in mind most of my family works office jobs, with that said I'm not typical millennial I keep my phone in the locker and shit and id work nonstop until 12:00
Christian Peterson
Sucks I can't fucking sue them, I've heard of cases like this where people get thousands of dollars
Grayson Hall
>Canada >no breaks
wait what?? this commie shithole tends to heavily favor laborers. Something is missing
What province How long were your shifts
Isaac Hill
Is it worth your time user? Go smoke a fag, drink some whiskey and go find a better job buddy.
Liam Stewart
Join the army dude
Kayden Myers
Specialize in just one thing like panel welding, A/C, interior, wiring, paint and body, etc and make your own small business to compete with them.
Shops and even mechanic schools purposely spread your knowledge thin over a variety of things so you can't do this.
Isaac Rodriguez
Yeah! That's what I thought.
He told me he took issue with it when he 'laid me off
Ontario, it's fucking shit here
Tyler Martinez
Like 8-9 hours
Leo Diaz
I did time in the Marines in the US. Come join, you'll get US citizenship and a bretty decent job. If you don't like it you get out after 4 years and use the GI Bill like me.
>be me >using GI Bill to attend Wayne State University >tuition paid >also $1770 USD deposited to my checking account once a month >fucking rich by college standards
Ayden Martinez
If he said your need for a break was the reason he fired you please get a lawyer and sue him into the ground. He's too stupid to be anyone's boss. You were past the 3 month probation period so unless he has documented real legit issues on paper that he had with you he cannot fire you and immediately hire 2 people to replace you.
Brandon Walker
dude you are either holding something from us, or you didn't explain your situation properly to the job board
because in Ontario, on a 8 hour shift you're entitled to an unpaid half hour AND 2 paid 15 min breaks, afaik, might be different for other industries
Bentley Brooks
Been trying in Ontario you need a registered training agreement to go to school, so far no one is willing to sign that until probation, which is bullshit considering it doesn't cost them anything or stick you with them basically putting my school off since I was supposed to go in the spring.
I'm at this point debating if I should just pay for my own schooling and quit trying to get it from these crooks dealerships are the worst
Angel Evans
Actually no fuck that, contact the MOL and ask them for advice.
Yea that's why I suggested it to that guy. I too am a Mellow Belleau Woodsmen. EAS in 2 months after 5 years and am basically set for life now
Robert Carter
You fucked up that car bro. Maybe you deserved a firing.
Landon Ramirez
It is a pretty fuckin sweet gig. Navy payed for my college and taught me to fly, life is good.
Leo Peterson
Swingin with the wing? haha. Yeah its a nice life. Although I am tired of fucking school. Prolly gunna apply to Detroit Police after this semester.
Julian Bailey
>court fees >lawyer fees >wasting time in court when you could be spending time finding a new job >no guarantee to "thousands of dollars" >high risk low reward lawsuit You'd be lucky to net a few hundred bucks after legal fees IF you win.
Just start applying for a new job.
Jose Thompson
Naw dude! He legit did it as a layoff he told me exactly
user, I'm sorry I have to let you go I meant to tell you yesterday
I ask why
Well there isn't hours right now, that's why I had you painting, also I find you're in the office too much I don't know if its bad luck or not
I ask like what
Like that stripped drain plug last week
Ok but why me I can't control that?
Well if you notice nobody else takes a lunch like you do, they eat while they work and it's not productive
Go to your car man it's cold
I don't remember exactly how it went down I was in such shock but that was basically the extent of the conversation
William Moore
>Navy payed for my college and taught me to fly Top wut I thought you had to be an officer in order to be eligible for flight training and pilot commissioning.
Tyler Morris
Also!! That car came in like that, I wanted to show the customer but they had this stupid rule that the techs couldn't talk to the customer.
So before I pulled it out leaving him needing a drain pan I thought it might be best to explain to the customer the situation
>Belleau Woods >The wing Nigga I'm in the fighting 5th, the Presidents personal battalion. Same here though I joined in 2013 with no skills whatsoever and an associates degree. I went to school and learned how to soon wrenches solder and wire but more importantly troubleshoot and read a manual. Worked in a bay with mechanics for a year and cross trained on engines and shit and then 3 little peace time deployments and gate guard to pad my stats for law enforcement after I get out. 1 semester from having my bachelor's (all free thanks to tuition assistance), already in the hiring process with the sheriff's dept and haven't even touched the GI bill. If it doesn't work out my wife's boss at the dealership said they'll hire me on as a lube tech then send me through there line tech school for free. Life is good
Hudson Parker
Might be an ROTC guy or naval academy scholarship. Uncle same covered his schooling then he commissioned and went pilot.
Samuel Kelly
most 5 year contracts indicate someone joined with a winger job that had a long MOS school.
And why Sheriff? Dont you need to start in corrections making like $17/hr?
Angel Wood
>That car came in like that So what happened?
Ryder Gray
1 week, plus the week i worked
800 bucks doesn't cover school
Joshua Flores
Nope most of the sheriff's dept around here split there table of organization now for law enforcement side and corrections side. That allows them to hire cheap high school grad 18 year olds who can't legally carry a handgun yet on duty (there's no need since they work in jail) and skimp out on half the training costs since they don't have to teach them weapons or 4th amendment search and seizure shit nor driving. Meanwhile of you get hired on the Law Enforcement side the standards are much tougher the academy longer and the lay better
Hudson Davis
Yeah same in the States and they take that seruously here. I've had employers give me shit about it and I'd be like, hey I've got the Dept of Labor on speed dial, let's see what they say and that would shut them up. I was a good worker though otherwise I know they would fire me and say it was for some other reason, I was just a stickler for taking a lunch break.
Adrian Bennett
If you can prove that the guy laid you off for taking your 1/2 hour unpaid break then you have an easy case bud.
Levi Collins
Fuck, I wish Monroe Country Sheriff was like that.
Jack Jenkins
It left not being touched, since the customer didn't want the repair.
Camden Hernandez
That's what I thought, but apparently not
Isaiah Baker
Who told you not?
Ryder Evans
Whay state is that in? See I think here nobody wants to be a police officer anymore with all the political turmoil and whatnot so they had to make it more enticing. I joined the LAPD in 2011 and it took over a year to get hired since there were billions of applicants. Now it's taking like 2 months
Xavier Hernandez
Michigan, I'm thinking of doing Detroit Police just for the fun and excitement of hood rat shit. State Troopers are the best (highest standards, best pay and benefits, best training and equipment) but they seriously just handle traffic. I know a few Troopers and all they do is traffic.
Elijah Davis
Tbh you don't even gotta do the full 4 years if you do it right. I did 30 months and made 90k my first year out of the navy at 21
Cameron King
Even after probation period, your employer can fire you for any reason... In Ontario, employer is not required to pay you for your 15 min breaks... If you take some time and see whats in the employment regs, you'd be quite surprised at some of the shit that is legal...
Aaron King
Eh I'm doing it because I love the program. Computer Science is fun as hell to me except for the Calculus.
Justin Bennett
It's the same in California the CHP basically just causes traffic on the freeways shopping people in the car left and making them merge across 6 lanes during rush hour to pull them over to the right shoulder. LAPD is where the action is at. I'm joining a smaller county sheriff's for a nice split down the middle of rural and urban policing with a nice budget. Kek I almost joined Detroit PD in 2011 too they were hurting so hard they were offering like 80 grand relocation bonuses for qualified applicants. Apply online do all your stuff over the phone and email, fly in once for the polygraph, physical fitness, medical exam and final interview and then BAM the city council cuts you a check for 80 grand to move all your shit to Detroit and probably pay like a few months rent up front.
Justin Watson
Sorry for all the typos I'm phone posting and had quite a bit of tequila and Mezcal last night
James Green
first job i had i was entitled to a 15 minute break, i only ever took 5 and did overtime every time it was available
you gotta make yourself appear invaluable or shit like this happens, even if the work is child's play
John Robinson
I meant 4 years of military. 30 months gets you 90% GI bill still....though after 4 years out I still don't have a degree because I smoke too much pot
Luis Hall
Whys everyone from michigan but MI meets always fall through
Cameron Torres
Wow, yeah that $20/hr is hard to swallow though. Talking less than 40k/year. They have "incremental pay raises" and a patrol officer makes max 51k but I don't know if that incremental raise is like +20c/hr once a year ya know? And Detroit is notorious for fucking officers. An officer was injured badly while off duty and they didn't cover him medically.
Camden Stewart
Yeazuz fuck all that noise. I'm looking at a little over 50k starting with phenomenal benefits and retirement package in a place with lower cost of living than the rest of the state and the pay is upwards of 80k after just 5 years. Also have one of the best police unions so you can't get screwed by the city/county. More pay faster for graduates and veterans too. The max out is like 105k for patrol here after 10. LAPD starts at like 70k but maxes out at less and raises are slower. No kids yet so I'm fine with starting at 50 and working up.
Wyatt Young
>Even after probation period, your employer can fire you for any reason...
Unless it violates the employment standards act. Such as firing someone for taking their unpaid 30 minute meal break as outlined below.
An employee must not work for more than five hours in a row without getting a 30-minute eating period (meal break) free from work. However, if the employer and employee agree, the eating period can be split into two eating periods within every five consecutive hours. Together these must total at least 30 minutes. This agreement can be oral or in writing.
Meal breaks are unpaid unless the employee's employment contract requires payment. Even if the employer pays for meal breaks, the employee must be free from work in order for the time to be considered a meal break.
Christopher Phillips
Welcome to adulthood. Sucks, doesn't it?
Andrew Peterson
Fuck suing. Get a new job, don't waste time. Did you get fired from your career? No, it's a shit-tier job. Just find another one
Robert Reed
>labor board You should have contacted a lawyer
Xavier Gonzalez
>Fuck yea socialism! >wait
Hunter Walker
How are those health insurance payments?
Hudson Perry
Yeah the one thing I like about DPD though is they'll pay for the 6 month achademy and pay you $15/hr while you go (peanuts I know, but helps slow the bleed of cash while I'm going). After you do 2 years you can move on. So I can do 2 years at DPD and not have paid for my achademy and also have Detroit Police experience on my resume. So I could probably walk into any department I want. Go to Kalamazoo or Canton. They start at 50 and go upwards very fast.
Nathan White
Hey OP you know filing small claims is fairly simple and you don't need a lawyer right? You can even file it online, just make damn sure you have your shit together. attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/courts/scc/
Alexander Myers
welcome to being a mechanic.
im in Alberta and apprenticed as a mechanic when i was 19, i learned everything the old school grit way and got maybe 45 minutes a break a day if that when i was entitled to 90 minutes. especially back then it was a hard trade to get into so i worked my fucking ass off, especially because the apprenticeship was offered to me, i didnt ask for it. the main problem is usually especially small shops like i worked at, youre technically your own contractor under the company name so the owner can get away with doing that kind of stuff. its just to be accepted in the trade
theres a reason every old timer that has been a mechanic for 30-40 years will tell you to go back to school after your apprenticeship and get a desk job, its a tough job to stay for the long run. i stayed for my 4 year apprenticeship and got my Jman and redseal diplomas then stayed 2 more years as a journeyman and dipped out and got a completely different job
do i miss making $30+ an hour? yeah but the stress wasnt worth it at all
Lincoln Lewis
i wouldnt know, im healthy
Elijah Jenkins
Your an apprentice, more than likely they rotate through apprentices every six months. Its cheap labor, this is more so for independent garages.
Jordan Wilson
>catches a cold >goes bankrupt
Brayden Martinez
Day of the Rake when?
Henry Smith
>I was basically fired and one of the reasons he gave was my need for a break
well working at canadian tire is garbage to begin with. go find a real mechanics job in a non cuck province
John Harris
>level 1 shop sweeper >need muh break hahahahahahahahaha Come to alberta and work a man's job, and see what happens when you try and take a break.
Liam Butler
Become an electrician
Jacob Sanchez
Mechanic from Vancouver here. Get out of this trade and go into Heavy Equipment. The demand is high, the work is easier (this surprised me) and every shop will pay for your schooling and you can pick anywhere you want to work. Basically I got certified in automotive and was making 26$/hr after like 5 years of working at the same place and being the best mechanic there. I looked into Heavy Duty and got a job at 40$/hr (Minimum start rate is 20$/hr for first year apprentice) plus 6$/hr to my pension and full benefits (Union shop, most non-union shops pay more money but don't do pension). The stuff I work on takes a long time to do anything, so an oil change might take 2 hours or replacing something on the engine might take 4 hours and if they need it done you will be given lots of overtime.
The main reason I switched was money but the fact that I don't need to clean up after each job and test drive the vehicle (I do off-road equipment, NOT TRANSPORT TRUCKS), I can wipe off some grease from my hands and hop into the equipment without worrying about getting a small dirt stain on the floormats.
Do the switch now and don't look back. You also will need about half the number of tools you would for working on cars (I don't even use 3/4 of the tools I have).
Jaxson Johnson
>"You seem to have bad luck". Surely this is not an actual reason you were fired, right?
Henry Bell
> Eat while they work
What the FUCK kind of a half-assed cheapo workplace was that?
By workspace laws in the entire western hemisphere you are not allowed to eat in a workshop where metal is being grinded/welded/painted and where oils and other chemicals are abound.
user you go to your fucking union and you raise Hell
If you are not in a union then I have zero sympathy for you, they would take care of all your problems and run the case for you
Andrew Walker
>By workspace laws in the entire western hemisphere you are not allowed to eat in a workshop where metal is being grinded/welded/painted
You don't understand how unfair some places are when it is a "right to work" USA state. In those states, they can fire you for any reason other than one that violates the Bill of Rights and you are the one that has to prove they are violating the Constitution. Therefore, if you insist on your full legal rights like break times, paid overtiime, etcetera, you can end up fired if there are plenty of other applicants that want your job.
Sure, you have rights. But if you use them, you'll get your hours cut, demoted, or fired.
Jose Long
Nigger what? You've been listening to union reps too much.
Lawyer up, state, federal and local laws still apply.
Nolan Howard
I am a Sask HD road tech. Ill write my journeyman this coming fall. >This guy is right >Don't work for dealerships >Work in the field in a service truck >I worked 5 months last year and made $92,000
Isaiah Scott
>land of the free
James Perry
>used to load for UPS >10 hour shift, one 10 minute break >never took it before no one would cover for you I know how you feel OP, but truth is, if the employer is that iffy about something like a break, don't work there.
Carson Mitchell
this
OP make the switch, you won't regret it. And if you are willing to relocate to the oil fields of Alberta (ideal if you don't have a family right now) then you can make more money than you can handle and you can actually afford to buy a house in Vancouver or Toronto. I missed out on that opportunity but I'm making double the money for half the work an automotive tech would be doing. And if you get a service truck you will spend half your day driving, half your day working and start making crazy overtime.
Equipment is also a lot easier to work on and because there are only a handful of companies you don't need to be familiar with so many different ones. A lot of times a fleet will only have Caterpillar or John Deere and you get really good at working on them. Oh and you also don't get customers going "my husband is a mechanic and says this repair should not cost 40$ it should cost 30$ and it didn't make this weird sqeak until after you replaced the brake light"
I had people constantly telling me to change careers when I had just got my automotive certification (Red Seal) but I stayed at my shop and barely got a raise. Now that I've changed my only regret is not doing it sooner.
Evan Perez
Play the race card if you can.
Jordan Thompson
>reddit spacing Stop this shit.
Jayden Morgan
>reddit spacing what is this
Michael Nelson
That's what happens when a shithole becomes flooded with more people than jobs. If you aren't willing to work through a break they'll find two who can.
Chase Baker
>And if you are willing to relocate to the oil fields of Alberta dude wat Have you been living under a rock? Work has picked up a little here but there's still tons of experienced guys out of work. And OP would be coming in green as fuck There seems to be a weird trend I've noticed where well-meaning people usually from Ontario and the Maritimes have this super outdated info on the job market here in alberta and think that it's still 2011 and anyone with a pulse can make $30/hour. I'm not telling people to not come here but at least do some research so you don't get a rude surprise if you do move here expecting a job
Ryan Lee
I know it's not as good as it was, but if you can land a job at 30-40/hr (You would need your 3rd year of training) and get your certification then you have the chance to move to one of the better companies (I have had two friends do this, but they went there as 4th year apprentices) and start making better money. Northern BC also has a lot of good paying mechanics jobs but the safest scenario is to get into a shop locally and finish your schooling before relocating.