BRZ Sucks

Depends what you're doing. If you want to get up to speed quickly, you wind up revving it up in the first two or three gears. But if you're just going around town or WOTing up to speed for the highway, then you might be at or near your desired speed by that point, and now you're ready to cruise in 5th or 6th.

On a track, no. But for DD, it's pretty easy to want to skip gears on the way up or down. The torque dip shows its ugly head in this regard especially, since there are plenty of times where if you only drop one gear you faceplant right into the torque dip, so you have to remember to drop two gears.

you really don’t have to blip the throttle when upshifting, user. assuming you do it all in one motion, just clutch in, shift up, clutch out, smoothly. now if you take too long you’ll have to rev a bit to match your speed.

But, maintenance will be much more on one off the same price

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I drive a 96 Prelude Si. 160hp 5speed. I have low compression on one cylinder. I can assure you, you shouldn’t have to “row through the gears” in the city in your 86.

They're close together due to the short final drive, there's a torque dip right in the middle, sometimes you have to work harder than you think you should if you want to match other cars with big lazy torque converters from stop lights rather than doing what feels natural, and overall it just makes you want to push it because that's when it goes from meh to fun.

I've spent some time in econoboxes and okayboxes from the 80s and 90s and there's just a different feeling to doing more than puttering along. Even in NYC of all places I wind up shifting all over the place for anything more than wading through thick, sludgy traffic.

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I testdrove one, and a civic si. Why does the brz feel slower? Is there some good explanation for this?

Probably the torque curve. Don't be fooled by things like lower gearing and intake runners that are tuned for an initial grunt of power. Also note that what you feel in a car is called "jerk" in calculus. Its the acceleration of acceleration. So a car that gains revs at an exponential rate (even if only slightly exponential) will "feel" much much faster than a car that gains revs at a near linear rate. For "speed", look at the numbers. Also look at vehicle weight, distribution and wheel base. These are the things that should matter. For $1000 bucks you can get some headers and a tune and feel much faster than the civic probably and the car will run better anyway so . Try to buy off numbers and objective traits, car feel and "speed" are things you can get used to and/or modify.