its good for the sustain but then again the bottle morph abuse got popular and i dont even know whats the more efficient build anymore i have opted to get bottle + lance for the stats that linken gives, i dont know which is which or better
side question: is it better to go full agi hehe or stay at 1.5k hp late game
Isaac Smith
nth for Mireska
Juan Jackson
New meta sucks, AM and Medusa both come online too fast
Jose Harris
Why is it so fun to skitter skitter
Jonathan Hill
i always ban pl, but since last few games where enemy won ONLY because of that imbalanced snakehead shit i think ill start to ban medusa hope all medusa spammers burn in hell forever, somewhere near tinker spammers
Benjamin Smith
Just pick AM
Nathan Rogers
>quit league because of the shit that is top lane and balance team >check out dota >have a lot of fun >play some axe and eventually do well >try out bane and have a blast fucking storm spirit with fiend's grip god bless i need to know when to use E and stuff, but I'm mad excited about continuing on desu
Parker Reyes
>hating tinker >when its fucking impossible to win as him since 1 mistake its gg yes its hard to be archon player, try ancient 5 when he actually wins(he does not)
Cameron Fisher
lolbabs go home desu
Aaron Thomas
>Enjoying Dota Whoa there buddy, this is not the right place for you.
Jonathan Jackson
LoL is the harder game mechanically so you should just main Invoker and trash retards to Divine 5
Jaxon Parker
>having fun
Brody Collins
i hate that farm-50-minutes-then-a-click-enemy playstyle, besides i'm offlaning now, need some rest for my nerves (sounds odd but it really helps) >its fucking impossible to spam machines when they try to push your hg >its fucking impossible to spam rockets from a 10 screens away distance >its fucking impossible to permablind enemy on mid since lvl1 >its fucking impossible to permahex now who's an archon here? and i didn't say that tinker is freewin, it's just he's so fucking annoying and antifun to play against (and with)
Anthony Hernandez
>lose 3 games in a row >develop acne
DOTARDS?
Caleb Sullivan
LoL is not harder mechanically
Thomas Sanders
>we are not having fun with dota so you shouldnt too!
Tyler Kelly
Reminder fun is a memeword that's only intended to stir the shitposting pot that is /d2g/
Chase Diaz
there are like 3 skillshots in all of Dota
SS Hook Arrow
Jaxon Price
>play offlane tide >its agaisnt am good fuck i hate chasing that rat around the map
Anthony Martin
>picking tide in 707 why
Joshua Rogers
>not picking tide in 707 why?
Jayden Butler
>LoL is the harder game mechanically
As someone who has had over 3K games in LoL I have to disagree in a sense.
LoL is generally much more fast paced considering the fast skill shots, no turn rates, and non-existent cast times....But the game keeps it's mechanics to an absolute minimum by effectively removing mechanics such as silences and constantly recycling mechanics and ideas into other champions to reduce diversity. This makes the game very predictable and easier to maneuver, the only real limiting factor is your reaction time.
This is very unlike dota, where there is a never ending list of unique abilities and interactions that require an intimate knowledge of the game, making split-second decisions a predictions is much more mentally taxing.
Juan Perry
How do i revert back to normal games? turbo mode just seems more fun overall.
Henry Smith
what if blink dagger cost mana
Jaxon White
That's factually wrong and skillshots in LoL are less meaningful anyways.
cause he's literally one button (not even spell immune piercing) hero and there are so many better offlane heroes?
Henry Green
realize turbo erodes your actual skill
Mana draining heroes buffed, also heroes like Centaur/Slardar nerfed because they have low mana pool and few mana skills.
Parker Martin
>someone mentions tank >someone calls it out as bait
based dotard from the past
Jaxson Hall
can someone teach me how to armlet toggle properly?
Evan Green
teach me how to become a dotard first then well start
Levi Wood
how do i play offlane LD?
Cameron Morgan
>DEAD GAME >esports drama >blogposts everywhere >waifu posters Literally no difference than today.
Jordan Cox
Just drag the creeps all day long.
Christian Hall
A ti sloochaem ne to chmo...
Charles Campbell
Portal hero when? >Eliotrope >Q - Target unit that hits for below-average damage
>W - Instant blink with fair CD
>E - Attack modifier that converts damage to % magic
>R - Place portals like Brood webs, can cast abilities and items through portals to extend cast range to near global potential. Can attack only with attack modifier and buffs Q when it uses more than one Portal.
Or make Portal an innate ability and give him 5 abilities (including Portal)
Adam Brooks
always have it on till you have 1 HP
then turn it off and bait retards into attac king you, turn on your armlet in the last second and kill your enemy
Asher Ortiz
why don't you stop stealing heroes from Wakfu and try to think up something of your own?
Julian Green
I have.
ammer STR Hero
Q - Terrain (Raise) >In a 400 AoE the terrain elevation is raised by 1 level, knocks up and stuns enemies for 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8 seconds and deals 125 magical damage. >Destroys trees and connects with terrain of similar elevation if applicable. This terrain change is permanent but will always have stairs. W - Terrain (Lower) >In a 400 AoE the terrain elevation is lowered by 1 level, deals 75/150/225/300 magical damage and slows for 2 seconds for 10/20/30/40% >Destroys trees and connects with terrain of similar elevation if applicable. This terrain change is permanent but will always have stairs.
E - Land Master >Hammer gains stats depending on level of terrain he sits on, effects persists for 2 seconds after changing terrains in addition to gaining the respective terrains buff >River - 5/10/15/20 % Increased movement speed >Level 1 - 10/15/30/45 Increased base damage >Level 2 - 400/800/1200/1600 Increased vision >Level 3 - 6/8/10/12 Increased armor
D - Construct >Hammer channels for up to 3/6/9/12 seconds and creates a simple controllable entity to do his bidding. >every second of channeling creates a Construct >Constructs gain half of the benefits of Land Master >Constructs have innate mini-bash of 15% chance to stun for 0.01 seconds and deal 25 bonus pure damage.
F - Reset >After channeling for 2 seconds all terrain modifications by Hammer are reverted. >Any enemy units caught in affected terrain are mini-stunned for 0.5 seconds.
R - Terraform >Hammer channels for 2 seconds and afterwards levels the area in around him in a 800/1600/2400 AoE, removing all trees and obstruction excluding base walls and fountain elevation. All effects of Land Master are applied onto Hammer on this new terrain. Slows enemies for 50% for 4/6/8 seconds.
bots are retarded, not helpful one called me a dumbass for playing a such a shit game, and the other came back with "muh LCS"
Issue is that the only person that is even remotely interested is scared off by the imba like abilities. Specifically Silencer's passive and ult as well as Shadow Shaman, Lion and other walking permastuns
Dylan Green
>you cant target the spell so its a skill shot yep its sick when someone hits that sick Gust or Breathe Fire skill shot
Shackle, Iceblast, Boulder Smash, Sunstrike, Hook and Arrow are the only spells that can be considered skill shots in dota
Dylan Miller
just get him to play a walking perma stun
play custom dota then, like ridiculous imba or 10v10 or overthrow to ease them in
Chase Gomez
tell them to try it out, and check the whole variation of items there is also how indepth it is if they are up to watching videos of day9 learning the game with purge the game is difficult as fuck at first but eventually you start grasping each thing and you get more used to the basics that are outside the hero
Show them the game through the features, you could practically start a game with them, click item shop and check out the in-game guides/builds so they don't even have to think and they'll think "holy shit LoL doesn't have this"
or even tell them to click on another unit and realize they can see their abilities unlike LoL
Or you can just pick Meepo and show how fucking powerful he is or PL.
Christopher Peterson
>tfw STILL keep thinking that omni's ultimate gives health regen
Joseph Rogers
thankfully, unlike league of lolbabbies, dota 2 has an item called >black king bar which prevents stuns >my friends were total lolbabbies >I tried to play league once and couldn't figure out how to turn off the screenlock and uninstalled cause "muh wc3" >get into dota 2 beta >2500 hours later >"hey guys come play this" >"no" >play league for real >dumpster kids as veigar >dumpster kids as ashe mid, which I'm pretty sure was a support, but I just played her like mirana mixed with drow ranger loved every laugh, lolbabbies literally self destruct when you pull some goofy shit like that
Angel Johnson
I can only hope they'll be open to trying an "overcomplicated' game
it gives regen if you buy spirit vessel :^)
Blake Gonzalez
If you don't get the first blood or die trying, you're not worthy of being in the gulag.
Connor Anderson
yes, then you get report nuked and locked out of lol for months at a time
I fucking hate Riot for what they did to the assfaggots genera
but what if I hold the fucker still for my carry to get first blood?
Connor Gonzalez
Fuck they don't even have to play Dota, click WATCH, go to any game, watch, and show them how good the Dota client can be. Player perspective alone is fucking godly.
Justin Martinez
>Omni's ult doesn't regen >Lich ult doesn't ministun >Sniper doesn't ministun >Lycan's wolves don't have bash >hex doesn't break passives Who else has dota phantom pain here
Jacob Diaz
>mfw 3 javelins on pango >halve the enemy team's health with one q
Tyler Johnson
>support screaming on the mic for me to chase offlane omni >listen to him for some reason >it takes forever to kill him >miss at least 4 CS in the meantime >didnt even get the kill t-thanks for the gank
Michael Morgan
>Doom doesn't have lvl death
ICEFAGGOT GIMME MY LINKEN BREAKING ABILITY BAAAAAACK
Benjamin Hill
I play offlane and get killed first instead because there's always an aggressive trilane or people trying to steal my rune. I hate this patch.
Sebastian Price
That's your fault faggot, carry is one of the easier roles but they have the most weight when it comes to judgement calls.
>drag creeps >win >???
Jack Price
Just pull the enemy creep wave into your tower, brainlets dont even know its a thing
Brandon Ramirez
I had two autistic friends who would argue with me for hours over >it's too convoluted >durr why is there turn speed >why can trees be destroyed >this is just bad wc3 >this just took all the bad parts of wc3 >shit graphics >hard >1/12/5 They actually like the game now but the average match is >me struggling to carry 3 friends and some other dipshit >"fuck this game" I'm not good at dota 2, but I do have around 3500 hours now. My friends have hundreds of hours but they'll never get to my level at this point. This is the fate of the lolbab, literally missing out because they opted to play a game they unanimously despise nowadays. Especially funny because the average lol games would be me stomping while alt tabbing to figure out what to buy or us getting completely dumpstered by tryhards with mommy's credit card.
Parker Brown
1. pick Underlord 2. stomp the offlane
Grayson Baker
>watch purge videos are you trying to make them vomit?
Jordan Ward
I swear everyone below 5k doesn't know this trick exists.
Bentley Carter
>mommy's credit card not so much anymore, you get runes >for free now, but the in game cash was changed to blue chards and is given on account level up rather than at the end of game, so now it's even more expensive and grindy to get new champs. Riot is fucking up bad, even my near zealous lo;bab friend is pissed about this new change he still hates dota more because it's too complex and takes more than 100 hours investment to learn. He spammed two heroes over 100 hours and apperently got shitstomped in every game
Elijah Rogers
you can't do that lmfao. Idiot.
Nathaniel Bell
Where did it all go so wrong bros?
Grayson Reyes
>He spammed two heroes over 100 hours and apperently got shitstomped in every game
Bentley Kelly
>league always 100k viewers >dota only gets 30k+ when theres a major going on its not fair
Dominic Allen
Run with your teammates who are now furiously pinging you and lead them across the river in a glorious assault
Jason Thompson
They aren't watching LoL they are watchign the female streamer's tits. LoL is a more accessible game so it is much friendlier to the "personalities" that stream
Lucas Rivera
oh my fucking christ I am so sick and goddamned tired of losing fucking ranked games because every single goddamn time I begin to get steam to win the game my idiotic team sabatoges me and throws till we lose. I haven't been placed yet but I already know it's gonna be super low because of fucking retards ruining my chances. Give me a pub stomp hero, now
Levi Baker
while we're on the lol bashing topic doesn't lol have something called skin shards now
Xavier Rodriguez
Omniknight is easy wins, get midas and GPM talents FREE GOLD.
David Jones
what people don't understand, and I'm talking even avid dotards with 1000 hours plus, is that you are supposed to draft accordingly it's as simple as >they bring a knife, you bring a gun >they pick a storm, you pick a silencer >they counter silencer with pa? you grab an omniknight however here is your average draft >me mid >shadow fiend >i called first >ta >two mid gg >storm spirit >need support >clinkz >courier pls >tangos etc and these fucking people have the GALL to get mad
Parker Rogers
it's pretty simple stay with team. they can't throw if you save them every time. u mad.
Luke Turner
>not posting classics
Tyler Watson
yeah git gud faggot
Angel Murphy
They keep running off on their own, the team doesn't stick together ever
Blake Hill
Huh. Riot doesn't release its numbers but usually when that happens it's a sign of SELL SELL SELL to cash in as fast as possible due to a slump
Aye. I watch huomao and there's an entire section of just girls talking into their webcams Not playing games, just talking, and they get donations every 30 seconds it's insane
Jaxson Butler
I'm still pretty new into Dota but he seems pretty good at teaching. Who do you prefer or recommend though, user? I'm always up to learn from people that know about the game very well.
Carter Roberts
excuses
Jack Hughes
>pick KOTL >force team to come to you
dotards?
Luke Hughes
Literally nobody streaming and no esports
Liam Morales
>pick wisp >force the team to listen to your words of wisdom by fountain diving them any time they disobey your will, effectively negatively reinforcing them to bend to your grand stratagem
Grayson Hughes
genuine questions typically get answered here
Benjamin Allen
ourguy waga is on
Jace Rodriguez
At the MMR where people are running around randomly separate from each other at 45 minutes, there are always 2 or 3 sticking together. Go with those. There is only so much farm on the map and it dies quickly, leading to groups of teammates running around lanes together trying to get farm.