/domg/ - Dominions General

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Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3000 units, 900 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our pastebin
pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y

>Drawfaggotry
dominionsdraws.imgur.com/

>DOMINIONS 5 IS OUT.

>Where do I get it?
Currently only available on Steam.
store.steampowered.com/app/722060/Dominions_5__Warriors_of_the_Faith/

>Manual
illwinter.com/dom5/dom5manual.pdf
illwinter.com/dom5/dom5tables.pdf

>Mod inspector
larzm42.github.io/dom5inspector/

>Multiplayer guide
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582

>Debug mod
dropbox.com/s/gc9io6paebo4pj3/Debug_501.zip?dl=0

>How do I change the fonts?
Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions5\data usually).

>Is there an easier way to play multiplayer?
Yes.
rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/dominions-4-pbem-manager-new-stuff.104015/
Works for Dominions 5 just as well.

>Completed games
Submit them here:
docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuclmaCiRo8vcTztsKjPJxnBgRDE-E1uNvE5j0x5wDZMMhRA/viewform
Results:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OxILAa3Y_O7Vk2NFhKAAQfStHqh1WJXMkGCim9sQ_ns/edit#gid=1292233344

>OP pastebin
Just copypaste it and link the previous thread below.
pastebin.com/RbFWcFcU

>Previous Pantokrator:

First for qt grills

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Tell me about Ermor-tan. Why does she cover her face?

Don't let anyone tell you that skeletons aren't friendly and that they are just not trying to make friends.

How do mods work with MP? If you mod your game by changing the files does it not work in multiplayer?

Can't stop weeping in lamentation over the annihilation of her empire.

You need all the players to have the same mod(s) enabled.

If you're playing over llamaserver you need to have the admin enable the mod(s) for the game too.

Hold and attack is good, but units with that command will still move forward before flying units engage. You need some squads behind your commander to catch flyers, or a squad which is sufficiently large and slow that your commander won't be left behind within a turn.

Giving each commander bodyguards and grouping them all up together can also help, but brings different problems.

why isnt there a "genghis khan" hero for barbarian kings?

Are any of you autists going to be at MAGFest next week? Dominions 5 LAN party would be fun.

Because LA T'ien Ch'i is supposed to represent the Manchus and the Qing dynasty, not the Mongols. Baka.

It really doesnt look like it desu

TC's progression through the ages is kind of a cluster fuck desu. No age of TC really represents any time period of China well

Where are the cute boys of domg?

Ok so how exactly does "undeath" function in Dominions.

I know liches etc still have their original soul but they made themselves undead. What of the skellies and ghouls though?

Are the souls placed back into their bodies through necromancy and bound to the necromancer's will?

Or is it like in Dragon Age, were demons possesses the bodies of the dead after the souls has left the body?

they are just caricatures of what a person would think of chinese history after watching some movies and reading basic chinese history.
nothing wrong with that, though some work could be done on them

>Thought she was face palming
>Actually lamenting

Now I'm sad.

Why didn't she cast Utterdark?

mindless undead are just automatons who fight for their commander

Skeletons are basically D&D Skeletons, they're essentially golems with no real will. Whether or not you're even using a proper soul is up to debate, but if you are, it sure ain't intact. Guys like Lictors have intact souls, and can think on their own - Longdead can't.
Ghouls aren't even properly undead, they're just infected humans. Basically zombies.

Cool thanks.

Representing China is a nightmare for anyone who wants to do it well, this isn't some lelelel 100000000 years of history and culture thing, it just comes with the territory of being a technically continuous culture for at least 2200 years and, depending on how you look at it up to 3500 or so, as well as the territory of being an empire. Representing Rome or Persia is a pain in the fucking ass too.

What's a good way to break into water as a nation without water access asap?
Besides pretender of course.

Have you ever actually tried to research Utterdark as a pop-kill nation? Their research is fucked as it is. Maybe on turn 90 or something.

You kind of have to rush it
>their research is fucked as is
Eh. Summoning shittons of mages is pretty decent if you find the gems for it.

Luck/Magic gets you the gems and occasionally a mage. Some thrones, some sites, depending on where you start in relation to those. Certain nations with no innate W have national heroes with that access.

steamchat

There is only grog. All the cute boys play Conquest of Elysium instead.

Outside of luck with events and conquest summon spectre is easiest way.

Well you need to hit enchantment 6 first. At least as Ermor-Lemuria. That's non-negotiable.

The most efficient summonable researcher for them is the revenant. Which costs 9 death gems for 10 research (I'm assuming here that they have M3). So they're paying nearly 1 death gem for every point of research at the very least. There's not a single normal nation that has that much difficulty with research.

Ench 6? What for? HoS is the big one, and that's at 5.

>Ench 6? What for?

Oh you'll find out...

I'm going to try an innovative elf removing strategy

Wish me luck

>Notice tied up cat
>Notice chopped off doggy paw
>Notice chopped off finger on the table
>Notice "Thai Cuisine"

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Good luck, make Pelinal proud.

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I spelt "Pelinal" wrong.

Did the inclusion of recruitment points make Sloth more viable?

With the limiting factors of some civs/provinces now being recruitment points instead of resources; you need resources less? Or did it just make growth way better?

you are still largely limited by resources too for some nations

>tfw waiting on 1 player to submit their turn in 3 PBEM games

>tfw in zero PBEM games because they all fill so fast

neet harder

No moreso than it was previously. Which is to say: Situationally. It's made The Order/Turmoil pick less of a no-brainer though. Used to be either ORDER 3 or TURMOIL 3 LUCK 3 with nothing in between.

Doesn't lemuria get 2x magic bonus now? Or is that only for their national mages?

They can also turn air gems into RP, at 5 gems per 6RP.

It's a commander trait. So yeah, nationals only.

>5 gems per 6RP.
Trash.

Not for Lemuria. Every RP that didn't take death gems is more immortal combat mages to field.

Why isn't the new turn coming?

If it's a short time, llamaserver is probably busy hosting a large game.

If it's been a while, check if the admin turned autohost off.

Quickhost? Thats the only thing I see he turned off

Yep, that'll be it.

It'll host when the timer expires, no sooner.

Better off using Lemur Acolytes. 11 gems for 13 research (again, assuming Magic 3), but they've the benefit of A) Not requiring research and B) Being sacred. If you've a caster/thug bless (and you're Lemuria. Take a caster/thug bless), then that'll help make them at least not TOTALLY worthless in battle.

That'd do it. You'll get the new turn at 1454.

Thanks.
Fucking holidayfags deserve to be shot

It leaves them free to get their stupendously broken immortal priest-mages out in ridiculous numbers though
You can't get rid of Lemurs, they just come back hale and hearty.

Aren't Lemurian Lemurs Astral/Death mages or something

>MAdomgOPEN didn't extend the turn for Christmas

Enjoy your AI, I guess. ¯\(°_o)/¯

>¯\(°_o)/¯
Kill yourself on the way out of here.

Sure thing, newfriend! :^)

>¯\(°_o)/¯
Post your nation you sack of shit

It's really not that hard to figure out assuming you've got half a brain.

Anything with high resource cost will be gated harder by that than by recruitment points. Since Order/Turmoil now have the smallest effect on income, for some nations with very high prod or just very low recruitment point cost on the infantry you want, Turmoil becomes nearly free points.
A particularly skewed example of this is Abysia. Standard human infantry cost 9 recruitment points. Abysia's superhuman, 20g/28res infantry cost 8. You can take Turmoil 3 and never feel it.

>a neighbor of mine is going AI
>someone just attacked me so I can't take advantage of it

Wait, turmoil increases recruitment points?

MULTIPLE SIMULTANEOUS AND DEVASTATING DEFENSIVE ELF STRIKES

Can Ermor fuck up the knifeears or no
I want to jerk off to the mental image of lictors raping elf girls

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R'lyeh I swear to the one true God I will remove you IRL as well as in-game if you don't take your turn or AI
No. Order/Turmoil used to be the highest pure % income modifier. It's now the lowest and its primary modifier is +/- 10% rec points/level. Abysians can take -30% rec points because all their shit costs ridiculously low rec and high gold/res, so you'll never be gated by rec points.

Ah got you.

>LA R'lyeh.

The poor guy has to deal with all the freespawn trash.

>introduce elves to modestly protected thug
>elvish cavalry encircles thuggo
>limp, noodly elf arms flail helplessly against him with all the might of an average dude with a spear
>poorly-armed thug takes 20 swings to hit an elf and still ends up routing them

How should I figure out what sort of troops to recruit when they are those nearly identical but the only difference is weapons?

Like these footmen here. Under what circumstances should I pick each one? The shield guys for anti-archer armies? Just take a mix, or pick the cheapest one and spam them?

All the dominions elves are ubermensch, though

Do you have the Cocksleeves edit from the recent chapter
I've lost my copy

>sacred 65g elite elf cavalry
>11 STR
>ordinary Ulmish man astride his steed
>13 STR
hmmmmmm

Ulmish dudes are also literal ubermensch compared to your average dominions human, so that's not exactly the best comparison.

>tfw your Prophet gets 360 noscoped by a crossbow crit

>tfw your prophet gets hit by Flare from across the map

>the most formidable military units of mankind
>only the strongest warriors are allowed to become members
>from a nation of people who are already basically peak human
>ordinary man

Also, if you take the sacred price increase into account, those ulmish cavalry are more expensive than those elite elf cavalry.

EA game

Did you ever actually request a turn delay/change? If not, I feel no sympathy and don't really care about catering to someone who shows such a basic lack of initiative that they assume I'll change settings to accommodate them promoting me to.

Now if you did, that's totally on me and my bad. Must've missed it if so.

The LA game is currently delayed, and I remember you posting in the thread about it.

Can't recall if you mentioned MA delay or not.

And yet they are inferior to satyrs and centaurs. Pangaeans truly are the master race.

>The LA game is currently delayed
pretty sure that was after a specific request and only for that game

You probably remember better than me.

I just remember being surprised that MA wasn't delayed. I didn't mention it because I'm not busy and getting faster turns is more than fine.

What is a good use for blood slaves for a non-blood nation? I'm getting three a turn from sites and have 42 at this point. I could make someone a level 1 blood mage, but is that really the best use?

>tfw your national hero that's only good for thugging gets hit by an arrow and catches a disease in his first battle

Fuck Disease
What kind of ridiculous disease makes people lose their fucking arms and get chest wounds and start limping and go blind but still be alive

I would empower someone and get them blood hunting, since blood has some useful boosters for other paths that aren't super difficult to get towards if you have even a small amount of blood income.

Empowering a mage is probably the best thing to do. Or, if you truly have no use for them whatsoever, using them as shitty "bodyguards" can buy your commanders a tiny amount of time in combat.

Leprosy?

Why not get a little blood magic on the side?

As others have said, even just as boosters to magic paths its fine. Also doesn't have more magic paths in general mean that the mage is stronger for being a communion/sabbath slave?

Personally I dislike blood slaves because they're just not that useful, so I'd probably gift them to someone else in exchange for whatever, even gold really.
If you've got nothing else to do with them go empower some mages and hunt for more blood slaves, there's a few passably useful rituals out there for blood, though you can get randomly horror marked by empowering
Also if you Wish for women you get like 120 blood slaves, which I can only guess means it's 120 dick addicts willing to die because that's how broken-in they are

So what, everyone in this world can just spontaneously catch leprosy? Why is the Pankoman's world such a shithole

It also makes them research harder which is useful.

MA wasn't delayed because, to my recollection, nobody requested for it to be delayed. I'll gladly delay it if somebody needs it delayed because I'm not going to expect 17 people to mess up their schedules to get a turn in.

At the same time, though, unless you actually tell me you want it delayed, I'm going to assume you're okay with the schedule.

>kill and drink the blood of 50 virgins
>get 4 better at reasearching

I mean it's more than what Bathory accomplished

You empower mages to do one of the following and blood hunt for more slaves (with dousing rod) while idle:
1) Crafting boosters. Blood stones for example are excellent.
2) Joining communions to cast reinvigoration
3) Unique summons (although you're extremely unlikely to grab them first if there's any real blood nations in the game also present)

Just to make it clear, I'm both of those posts and not the same guy from