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21 months ago
first for too early but it prevents retards jacking it again i guess
21 months ago
gimme more cult rounds it’s all I have left to live for
21 months ago
All those uncovered faces and the borg doesn't have stoxsmoke
What a homosexual world we live in.
21 months ago
Who cares when you're about to summon Nar'sie
21 months ago
Bumping people out of the circle resets it long enough for the stox to hit
21 months ago
I meant more of the unconvered face thing
21 months ago
Enjoy ur smoke/spray vulnerability.
21 months ago
PLEASE POST YOUR BEST SCREENIES
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21 months ago
borg in charge of policing religious activities
MacValidstein has logged in to the thread
21 months ago
Mech components on space pods when?
21 months ago
TheManNamedTom
deny
Nuke
deny
Salamandoo
deny
Chazach
accept
ChugMonkey
deny
Kurfurst
accept
Toomykins
deny
MeetMeInDorms
accept
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21 months ago
Posted this in the wrong thread...
veekyforums.com/thread/209838035/video-games
Alright, so 2 vaults for 3 z levels, and 3 vaults for Z6. Can some only spawn on certain Z levels?
veekyforums.com/thread/209838035/video-games
Thanks, going through this now.
veekyforums.com/thread/209838035/video-games
The vault was not nearly as fun as this video suggests.
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21 months ago
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21 months ago
TheManNamedTom
deny
Nuke
deny
Salamandoo
deny
Chazach
deny
ChugMonkey
accept
Kurfurst
deny
Toomykins
accept
MeetMeInDorms
deny
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21 months ago
Im indifferent on most components on pods but Id really like to see tracking beacons on pods, along with the same sort of console mechs have.
Sleeper pods for group exploration or body recoverly wouldnt break anything I think.
21 months ago
inactive but good
inactive but good
good
bad
good
no opinion
good
21 months ago
youre tsundere about sharing your job with others
thats a cute thought to go to sleep to
night Veeky Forums
21 months ago
make a meme list
deny nuke/salamandoo
21 months ago
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21 months ago
Also I think ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Vault_(map_element) is missing a few vault or two. There doesn't seem to be any records of the zoo ship, that' mostly filled with Kudzu and cockatrices.
21 months ago
salamandooo has three o's you brainlets
21 months ago
next time just press ctrl+S
21 months ago
no ctrl key on my phone keyboard
21 months ago
I'LL MAKE EVERY NON-SERIOUS APPLICANT ADMIN
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21 months ago
veekyforums.com/thread/209838035/video-games
Not that i'm aware but something could have changed
You can read up on its system and loo kat its spawn region areas
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21 months ago
Station does silent after reports of homosexuals
All that is left for the ERT is remains in a twisted hulk
???
21 months ago
Worried I might slip up now lads
Been playing on vore more and more even got close to unironicly EPRing
There is too much power when you know you can get away with anything
Even me uwu
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21 months ago
Its ok, suicide is still an option for you
21 months ago
he can’t meta botany by harvesting semen from the dorms after EPRS have had sex
21 months ago
He doesn't capture his waifu's and feed them poison to collect their vomit, feed them blood so they can harvest it in preparation for a full transfusion and organ and limb switch so that they're truly inside their waifu with the assistance of a gripper emagged medborg
21 months ago
Ngl
That seems like a really good gimick to fuck with a meta friend
21 months ago
that tator AI round several hours earlier
tator AI seems new so I suggest we play it cool and let me make barrel bombs
just as I'm about to finish getting stuff on the roid I run into a double goliath gang bang
somehow the Ai gets outed when I go back into my MMI after I'm blown and spend like 10 mins in darkess before I ghost and realize shit got fucked
21 months ago
it was a big mess
one of the slaved mediborgs just went full "I am blatantly spacing the target"
only reason i didn't kill it there was because I didn't want to get banned over some dumb shit so it got lazered later on in the BrigCore when it got subverted
21 months ago
veekyforums.com/thread/209838035/video-games
Ok so I want to think about the proper way to go about this.
I made BO an alt title of IAA because theres a lack of general content.
I cant code for shit, but I can map bridges to have enough "tools" to get around that.
Do we actually want BO to put on the big boy panties and be its own job? If so Ill need to edit all the bridges.
Im ok with doing this but Im not going to do it if people dont want it.
21 months ago
If I skin a goliath to harden my suit, its defences will remain unchanged if I use an ADVANCED injector right?
21 months ago
Eh I would appreciate that change it personally but I'm one dude
I think you wouldn't need to change the Bridges that much, just make some Bridge Officer lockers that spawn... somewhere. (Shit maybe you would need to edit the Bridges).
Basically what I've found is this: All of the "Pure Command" roles [Captain, HoP, and to a lesser extent Bridge Officer] suffer from this issue where since they have no real "home" base with coworkers and tools, (the HoP theoretically manages Cargo but in reality the QM just wants him to go away) you wind up with a bunch of SecLite players. This can be seen in many aspects of our gameplay, like how :C is often an abandoned radio channel, and the "real" Command radio channel ends up being :S in practice unless the HoS thinks that yelling loud over :C will get the RD to blow them borgs.
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21 months ago
I dont see much of reason not to honestly. Bridge officer isnt really any different than the other two "nco" nonhead style jobs - quartermaster and warden.
Neither are necessary for their departments to function, but they have perks that allow them to enhance their departments.
Fundamentally theres no reason not to have BO serve as that immediate level position within command.
21 months ago
What if HoP lost :s on their default headset?
I dont know what else you can do to limit command from becoming security wannabes. Its a breakdown in job delegation - you give HoP all the tools to do security job so its foolish to expect them not to use them.
The problem with command is that with all the tools for command and control comes power that naturally leads to a lust for valids. How do you change their content to discourage this without making their command tools ineffective?
IAA suffers from this as well. You have access and power, youre going to naturally want to use it. How do you limit people blue and black tiding without breaking the jobs?
21 months ago
Reminder to tell him/her how you feel, user.
21 months ago
command being seclite is just natural adjustment to the game mechanics if anything
like for example, if im the hos, i naturally only use :s because i want my officers to know what's going on. i will only use :c if i have to because anything I say there I'll usually have to repeat on :s. so then the captain naturally adjusts, and only talks on :s whenever possible, and then eventually the HoP does too, because there's hardly anyone on :c, and the topic of job changes pretty much concerns security anyway because officers want to know who is allowed to go where.
i havent played hop in a while, but if i saw a hop diving into the sec lockers at round start to steal a security encryption key because otherwise he can't tell the security team that the clown has botany access, because he wants to know when the people he gave access to are being shits, (or whatever) & because the hos would rather not copypaste everything he says into the radio twice then i really cant blame him
i mean those big blue lads dont even spawn with a belt in their locker
there's very little i would change here because i think you'd have to overhaul our command structure, but if i only had to make easy changes, i'd just give HoS access to the ID console at roundstart it so he actually has the access necessary to do his job & make Bridge Officers real boys because why not
21 months ago
It stems from command having very little else to do. Once HoP runs out of tards to wrangle at the line, what else does one do? Civilian departments dont need him 99% of the time.
Same reason IAA goes blacktide. They dont have anything else to do.
Unlike an actual navy, Veeky Forums departments work pretty much autonomous and have no need for commanders. You'd have to reorder the command structure entirely to fix it.
21 months ago
I don't think Bridge Officer needs to be it's own job. Please, I get your new to coding but don't listen to every person's suggestions, because thats how you end up with shitty spaghetti code, and coders not paying attention to what they are doing. N3X15 isn't here to regulate bad ideas for coding, so please look at alternate titles and ask, "What changes?" if a Bridge Officer is made it's own job, what can they do differently if they are given there own role that they can't do now? That's the reason the Lawyer was moved to an alternate title, because his purpose was trials and cleaning up the brig, and everyone in sec could do that perfectly fine. If the captain, or HoP, or someone can look after the bridge just fine, then we don't really need it to be it's own job. If they don't want to look after it, thats fine too were a Low RP server, and we don't need strict ru-rus about captains needing to stay in the bridge
21 months ago
What this guy said. Like most pie in the sky projects in the thread, this is one of those ideas where one guy says "Wouldn't it be cool if".
21 months ago
if a Bridge Officer is made it's own job, what can they do differently if they are given there own role that they can't do now?
well i cant speak for everyone in command but spawning with a command radio & the fact that i actually listen to what bridge officers have to say
i guess you could also argue that the shitters would just invade the bridge officer role if we did that. i might counter with "why haven't they already for the free headset?" but i can see it happening anyway
21 months ago
Nobody has any trouble using the security channel let along a guy that can just do get a security headset
21 months ago
You're also too harsh on people killing problem chilluns. It's simple, they're fucking peoples shit up so people affected by that and the soon to be loose plasma/singularity are gonna do something about it.
21 months ago
What i'm trying to get at, is we already have a command/nanotrasen yes-man in the form of the IAA. Alternate Titles exist because someone goes, "Wouldn't it be cool if X", and then they realize that the job they are proposing fits perfectly fine within the boundries of the current jobs that exist. The point where jobs seperate I.E Roboticist, to Scientist. Is when they have a bigger primary purpose.
For instance, Roboticist focuses primarily on building and constructing Mechs and Robots
Scientist focuses primarily on Research, Bombs, Telesci, ect. Theres 2 big differences between those jobs and how they function.
Now, for the BO example
IAA is a yes-man who faxes complaints to Heads and Centcomm, and generally agrees with anyone a nanotrasen official or the captain says
Bridge Officer is a yes-man who gives orders to heads and nanotrasen officials and generally agrees with what they say or do.
The way you slice it, Bridge Officers and IAA's have no different primary purpose from eachother, and that is why they should remain alternate titles and not jobs themselves because nothing changes, except IAA becomes a lot less clogged by people who have a weird domination fetish for the captain.
21 months ago
HIGH BUTTPEE NOW
ID ENCODED INTO YOUR RIGHT HAND
ADBUTT TOGGLE FOR HARD ID CHECKS ON VIRTUALLY EVERY PIECE OF MACHINERY AND CONSOLE WITH THE IDCOMP LOSING CUSTOM DESIGNATIONS AND CANNOT REASSIGN ABOVE THE MANIFEST ROLE CAPS no sixty "captain"s
IT'S TIME TO SLAM, WELCOME TO THE :h JAM
21 months ago
Im not really convinced it needs its own job, which is why I did BO the way it is done.
I keep seeing the suggestions to change it, which is why I bring it up.
Im interested in the gameplay implications of a stronger set of tools for BO that would make it worth doing it, which warrants a discussion I think.
Anything that speeds up command decisions and lessens the "fog of war" with antags is tricky because youre trying to balance the game on the tip of the sword. On one hand the extra communication and abilities could help make command jobs more effective and fun, but also make antaging harder because that gap of situational awareness that is inherent to SS13.
Im super hesitant to add the next "sps" to game. But Im also really open to jobs who interact with large sections of the station and crew.
21 months ago
id argue that the difference is that iaa is pretty much a defunct role
it's not in an ideal state at all and your whole job relying off of faxbusses is bad which is why chappy does it better because there's at least more content to play with
there were complaints on this even on bay when i played it, that their nanotrasen liason or whatever it's called there gets ignored by admemes
21 months ago
Who is this Chug person and why should I care if they're an admin?
21 months ago
He's one of the many infamous shitters and he has only returned to grab power, hoping to follow in the footsteps of Sawbones
21 months ago
old player that some people who may or may not play here dislike or maybe not dislike but just want to shitpost and he's the target of the week
21 months ago
It's martin taylor
He's a many years old ss13 player who burned out years ago and generally only played to grief people
You should care cause he only came back for a chance to be an admin which tells you every reason you need to deny him.
21 months ago
Do you remember the IAA plasmeme "cornslaw"? Do you remember this person sucking squid's and other admins dick for constant round after round shitbuses? That Chug. They "cleaned up" conveniently when the shitmins enabling got canned but we all know people dont really change on this server.
21 months ago
t. guy who doesn't remember chug
21 months ago
iaa is ded role
suddenly
iaa busses for cornslaw every round
sometimes stuff that changed the whole round solely for this one meme man
those were dark times
21 months ago
He is the anonymous informant that caused a bunch of drama a month ago, despite him being a huge drama whore he's accepted but somebody else was instantly denied for making drama but chug makes drama and the other people dont but chug is admin now because he is friends with probe and foster and also he makes drama.
21 months ago
sorry should i trust people like (You) who don't even know who is an admin or not? squid wasn't removed.
21 months ago
He's talking about dorms who finally assblasted themselves
21 months ago
squid had their bus flags removed, i dont know how many, but i think all of them
understandable mistake to make as they did go on hiatus after that
21 months ago
t. guy who thinks he knows shit but actually doesn't
21 months ago
Squid lost buildmode, fun, spawn, sound, varedit dude.
21 months ago
fuck i accidentally the admin apps
21 months ago
Oh, I remember that name. He was a greytiding shitbag if I recall.
21 months ago
martin taylor
That was Infoman.
21 months ago
reminder that if you dont want somebody as admin, then go into their app under an anonymous account and say so. maybe you can even include why
21 months ago
Well logs are burnt toast, was his non-jones bones static close to that? I'm terrible with names. I was just sick of him being a shitter all the time and seeing chug's ckey come up as the guy.
21 months ago
just update the remaining 4 bridges to have the same amount of tools as deff has now and leave it be
The time you spend trying to make a niche job could be spent better elsewhere.
21 months ago
5 hours ago the server loaded up
21 months ago
change box
get lynched
I dont see that working well for me.
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21 months ago
Yes, and? It's deadpop time
Delete some of the tables
Replace with consoles
Put the tables on the inside instead
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21 months ago
Robotics console inside Bridge is OP, nerf when?
21 months ago
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21 months ago
It's so easy to make it's whatever
21 months ago
While changing rogue borg balance, it also moves the "cyborg control" away from Science
21 months ago
i think i'd have grounds to object to it if sec had the access necessary to do their job but as is im not too bothered
it wont ruin a milf or traitor ai round for obvious reasons
21 months ago
Can Cultist Xenos write runes and use them?
21 months ago
Sec
Isn't fixing/killing Silicons the job of Engineering and Science?
21 months ago
They don't have access to do anything other than monitor it.
Yes
21 months ago
Eng lost the assembly line nearly half a decade ago, stop living in the past
Sci doesn't listen, are never around, and don't even know how to do anything silicon related more often than not.
21 months ago
in theory yes
in practice i'm locking up a secborg that's breaking its ROBOCOP laws in a ghetto gay baby jail (welded locker surrounded by vending machines) because i don't have the access to remove its cell as a HoS let alone use the robo console which has a hard ID lock
21 months ago
Thats essentially what I would have to do, since no one will tolerate a deff style overhaul.
The reason Im hesitant is because the default bridge layout as is leaves firing angle vulnerabilities. As in, you can get firing angles from the hall onto targets on the bridge via the gaps in consoles when the shields are down. Adding more consoles without that in mind means disregarding combat balance.
Maybe Im overthinking this, but I come from a FPS and Isometric shooter design background, so it draws my attention.
For example when I was actively developing for Infantry Online, I'd spend alot of time going over every single attack angle, a bigger deal for infantry because of the bouncy bullets and splash damage, but still a valid concern here.
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21 months ago
Sci doesn't listen, are never around, and don't even know how to do anything silicon related more often than not.
this too.
god bless the rd today for blowing the borgs when i asked him to, but he didnt know that traitor ais are a thing and that just because the card says asimov doesn't mean the ai is asimov. (which i dont blame him for but you get the idea.)
21 months ago
Maybe removing the law 0 visibility from intellicard was a shit idea, it's very hard to make sure the AI is actually a traitor
21 months ago
Any spergy faggot can just drop blast shutters and cut AI control. While I agree that it's a concern, it's a stupid concern. You can also just make it vertically rather than horizontally oriented so people can barf shots down if you want to keep some a least Or hell, just put the consoles up against the AI core wall so it's wide open to shoot into their backs
It's really easy.
Purge, Asimov
If a n y t h i n g happens since, purge, suicide laws, go blow, melt the brains, kill and card then melt the ai. It only gets one second chance.
21 months ago
A good map will have defensible areas with exploitable weak points.
This base has a back door, a bypass, and various props that allow players utilize a wide range of gameplay mechanics.
Adding consoles willy nilly to box bridge just means adding extra cover with nothing to lose for it. This is why I'd like to remodel box bridge, to keep things fair for all involved, but touching box is too taboo these days.
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21 months ago
AI: There is another Upload console!
We had an Ion law!
21 months ago
Remember only wiping kills the carded AI, if you destroy a carded AI's card it gets sent to deadchat, but shows up functional for greentext purposes
21 months ago
this is why if the ai is fucky, (not murderboning but obviously goofed something bad like a slaved borg trying to assassinate) i ideally like to put a huge ass hole in the core & card the AI without touching the laws
if the laws look fine, then that means the AI is blatantly lying and you can press that wipe button
however it's also worth mentioning that rogue AIs are ALWAYS valid to kill and it's better to do sooner rather than later
21 months ago
does Veeky Forums have autocloning and if so what part do i change?
21 months ago
God tier Captain gimmick:
Set AI on NT default
AI, do not let anyone but me into Upload or change laws
Suicide
Watch half the station try to kill the "malf" AI when it doesn't want to let anyone into Upload
21 months ago
I dont think its a stupid concern, just a lesser one.
21 months ago
not putting the ai on keeper
21 months ago
You never get banned for participating in a large lynch mob. They can't ding dong half the pop
21 months ago
Are you ready for 8 players?
21 months ago
honestly lynch mobs are great
asimov janiborg was slipping people once and a crowd formed to beat it to death and completely disperse afterwards
21 months ago
It's not taboo
You have to put a lot of thought into it regarding not just the players but the antagonists as well. If it's well done, people like it. But that's the thing, you have to think it out.
that's exactly why you're melting it. It doesn't matter if there is another or it's a traitor. It can't be controlled so it's time to go
It has until I've killed it for the ion law message to play and if my timer doesn't have it in the applicable timeframe for the next event roll or a multiple in case of a silent, it's toast for milf powers. I can reconstruct it if it's fine.
21 months ago
Sometimes I wonder what SS13 would be like with that style of graphics.
High detail buttbots when?
21 months ago
The captain would be the one being banned obviously.
21 months ago
Is there a map making checklist?
21 months ago
run prepare bat in map tools before changes
run cleaner bat in map tools after changes
21 months ago
tfw got cucked by ai right before starting bingo yesterday
maybe tonight
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21 months ago
I WANT TO GET OFF RANDY SANDY'S WILD RIDE
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21 months ago
2562
walk into bar
battle of lil slugger starts playing
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21 months ago
What do I need to know to become a competent engineer that everyone will love
21 months ago
Singlo goes inside containment not out.
21 months ago
Space both singularity generators
Setup another engine and config the smes
Turn up the input to the air tank and throughput from the air line to distro
Fix the holes, broken wires and broken pipes from meteors, rods, and asshats
Learn to make an engine worthy of a railgun and clear carp when they show up
21 months ago
Just join a furry meta-group *brohoof* OwO
21 months ago
is it possible to learn such power?
21 months ago
Build air alarms in maint and keep that shit pressurized during long rounds.
21 months ago