It seems like the media completely ignores the successes of socialism, like the medical care available in Cuba. This in turn leads to further misinformation about socialism within the public, getting them to vote in ways that are not within their interest.
How do we stop socialism being a dirty word?
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Maybe it's because the failures of socialism tend to loom over muh healthcare omg we live like two years longer on average than the americans because they shoot each other too fucking much lmao suck it!!!
don't even bother making these threads, all you'll get is helicopter memes and "kill the commies lol"
Sometimes I wish we could have an educated discussion on socialism. All you seem to get is epic /pol/ may-mays and psudohistoric capitalist propaganda.
So is "social democrat" the term for somebody who supports some elements of socialism (worker's rights, a welfare state, etc.) to protect an overall capitalist system with no goal of eventually transitioning to pure socialism?
Because whatever successes socialism has had (such as a working health care system) are not exclusive to it but its massive, mass-murdering failures are.
>Because whatever successes capitalism has had (such as mild technological successes) are not exclusive to it but its massive, mass-murdering failures are.
I would say socdems are socialists. If you get them to list good things about the current society, it's usually things like 40 hour week and minimuim wage, not you can exploit the workers for profit
>implying proper, "seize the means of production" socialism has ever worked at improving living standards
If people aren't taking you seriously, sometimes there's a reason.
>implying marxist shits don't call every argument that disagrees with their religion "capitalist propaganda"
You people destroyed the ecology of Siberia and expect me to pay homage to your delusions. Fuck you.
"Capitalism" isn't a descriptive term, it is a snarl world subversives came up with to mean "everything I don't like" and to make it look like all the world's problems are systemic in origin. Thus capitalism doesn't have failures because "capitalism" as such isn't a thing.
Socialism, on the other hand, is a concrete movement, and can be attributed the horrible failures it had.
(and, to add to that, no government in modern history has ever come anywhere close to the death toll of socialism in regard to ITS OWN CITIZENS IN PEACETIME.)