What's the natty limit?

His legs are so shit. Needs to get leaner.

FFMI of 25.

dat aint natty dawg

So? Hes like 50

gtfo faggot.

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fkn mirin
i wonder what his lifts are

With a lowish bodyfat and some muscle mass about this

Chris elkins

He's like something out of Streets of Rage

Now fuck off, first yearers

PLEASE

PROPAH

His bicep insertions are pretty weird

depends on your genetics

Fuck, both me and scott have 16 inch arms.

Do they really look this skelly from the front?

Fuck this.

>he's been lifting for 20 years
>he might actually be natty
HEY GUYS DON'T BE SO NEGATIVE

IVE BEEN LIFTING FOR 1 YEAR AND MADE AMAZING GAINS, JUDGING ON MY FIRST YEAR OF PROGRESS IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS ILL BE LOOKING LIKE TIMBAHWOLF

I MEAN HE'S BEEN LIFTING FOR LIKE 20 YEARS, IMAGINE WHAT I'LL LOOK LIKE IN 20 YEARS BASED OFF MY FIRST YEAR OF AMAZING GAINS

JUST BECAUSE YOU GUYS DONT WORK HARD ENOUGH YOU FUCKING FAGS, IVE MADE SO MANY GAINS IN MY FIRST YEAR OF TRAINING I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE IN MY SECOND YEAR, AND JUST IMAGINE BY MY 3RD YEAR! TIMBAHWOLF'S BODY IS TOTALLY ACHIEVABLE NATTY BASED ON MY FIRST YEAR OF PROGRESS

IF YOU NEED ANY HELP JUST ASK ME GUYS, IVE GOT A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE FROM MY FIRST YEAR OF LIFTING WHICH I GOT AMAZING RESULTS FROM

Is this achievable natty?

>Posting in all-caps

Confirmed roid rage

Gooby pls go, your drunk

For real tough, there's this french Youtuber that's been lifting for 24 years. Pic related.

He claims natty and I believe him. In an Interview the guy said that lifting was his life since his sixteen and since the very begining, he never missed a training and had a perfet diet.

I believe that he's natty. The whole natty french Youtube game follows his advice and says that he's the best they've ever seen.
He doesn't do work with the non-natty.

*illuminatty

>believing this is natty

tip top kek

He's not thaaaat huge for a guy that lifte for 24 fucking years.
That's a lot man. Imagine 24 of serious lifting and the diet that goes with it.

>I believe him

>natty

Are french people really that gullible ?

in case you faggots can't tell I was being fucking sarcastic
you make the vast majority of changes you will ever make to your body via lifting in the first 1-2 years of proper training. You will not gain as much muscle in the next 20 years of lifting as you did in your first 2 years assuming you did things somewhat correctly
your french guy is roided to fuck by the way
you want to know what ACTUAL drug free people look like? Here are some
>omar isuf
>nick wright
>maxx chewning
kk now fix ur expectations

pics of drug free people training for a long time inc.
1.

2.

3.

>natty
Dude I would have possibly believed it as well a few years ago. Now I've been lifting for while and I am now seeing the truth. Still don't let this discourage you though. You can still look great naturally. You just won't look like that without some extra help. Pic related is me at 15% bodyfat natural and over 5 years of lifting. I am still making progress but now I'm getting to that point where I am deciding whether I should make the jump to leave humanity behind or not.

if you lift for 15 years and you have good genetic, yeah why not

Not sure what your trying to say here, to be honest.
I mean, I'm a 6 year lifter, with over a decade of sports behind me before that. Not a veteran by any means, but certainly not a novice. My first four years were pretty good, but my last two years have showed me just how much mass I've built over years of consistency in bodybuilding. I really don't think that it's impossible to build really impressive physiques natty, but it takes a hell of a lot of work, and consistency over a long period of time.

different for everyone
but its usually around
180 - 190lb for 5'10

>not sure what you're trying to say here

mike tornabene

he is also extremely handsome

if that's at around 12-13% bodyfat I agree

WHERE is 7.?

Yeah you're absolutely wrong haha.
This is the attitude that makes it pretty obvious that you guys are just new gym rats, with no sports experience, knowing no real athletes, and who jump on steroids early and easily.
You're absolutely right about making fast gains within the first two years of lifting, but it's consistency over time that builds really impressive physiques.

>new gym rats
Lol
Post your body and prove me wrong

This is achievable natty.

Seid no one.

Don't matter.
Not natty

you're not going to post your body, that much I can tell
>sports experience
what has playing a competitive sport got to do with this? absolutely nothing
and I played competitively in tennis for a real long time
>knowing real athletes
gosh these buzzwords are making me cringe. what have people who compete in other sports got to do with how much lean mass you can build by going to the gym for a long time?
>jump on steroids early and easily
But I've been lifting for a long time and haven't used steroids
>consistency over time that builds really impressive physiques
no it's not, it's genes or/and steroids
you have proposed NO evidence contrary to the argument that you're not going to look a whole lot different after 20 years lifting compared to 2 years lifting, and if your next post doesn't include some then this discussion is over

Is homosexuality a requirement for steroid users, or is it just encouraged?

Actually he's right. You don't make gains forever. Only up to six years I believe if all other factors are inline.
I've been lifting for 8 years. How about you cupcake?

Gay for pay brother. Cumming is cumming amirite?

>skelly
check your manorexia, splitlord

Gay for pay brother. Cumming is cumming amirite?

Discregard everything said ITT.It differs from person to person and it depends on shit ton of factors