What do you recommend instead? I kinda want to use freeweights so I don't gimp myself by relying on machines?
Logan Richardson
relax you are new , stick to that program t for a couple of months to get your body used to exercise and then you can move to free weights
Charles Young
you want compound movements like putting deadlifts in your back day, squats and overhead press in your leg day, and bench press on your chest day. those are the ticket to widespread development throughout muscle groups and having good strength all around. do them first in the workout
Anthony Torres
Thanks. What's a good number of reps per set for each of those?
Owen Hill
the gym manager is an idiot, there's all sorts of shit in there you don't need, it's not a waste of time but it's not efficient either
i think you should read the sticky
Charles Martin
this, shit will get real after 4 months
Jordan Reyes
>Monday, Wednesday, Friday schedule
When will this meme die?
Nicholas Cox
Fucking retarded. The only real split is PPL. On Day A you're working triceps with all those chest pushing exercises. And then you're working them again the next workout. Change it to chest and triceps, then back and biceps.
Connor Sanders
What should I replace then?
David Butler
fitsticky.com
Adrian Young
5 for squats and deads, 8 for bench and overhead press is what i do. Some here may say 5 for all.
Chase Williams
If you're new to lifting entirely, then you want to start off with something like: AxBxAxx BxAxBxx
A: Bench 5x5 OHP 5x5 Tricep Pushdown 3x8
B: Squat 5x5 Deadlift 5x5 Pullup 3xf
To get started.
After a couple months, and seeing some functional strength gains, then you can switch to a bro-split (which is how you attain body in your pic):
ABCDExx
A: Shoulders, including OHP Arnold press Shrugs Barbell raises etc
B: Back & light Bi's, including Deadlift Pulldowns Pullups Curls etc
C: Chest and light Tri's, including Bench press Flyes Pushdowns etc
D: Legs, including Squats Leg press GHR etc
E: Arms, including Curls Pushdowns etc
David Reed
Shits bad, read the sticky.
Julian Turner
Working triceps on all days is really bad for a beginner you can do it later on but starting off I don't think it's a good idea
Nolan Harris
Guys what will I look like if I keep doing this routine.. I've been working out for the past ~4 months.
Bench - Currently at about 130-135lbs 5x5
Incline Dumbell - Currently at about 5x4 45lbs each hand
Overhead Press - Recently started I'm about 5x3 50lbs
Upright Rows - I do about 5x5
Lat Pull Down - 80lbs i do a lot of these, I don't really think of a number...
Pull Ups - I try to get a few good ones in but I still can barely do them
Farmer Walks - I do these to exhaustion
For legs I just focus on calves by doing a lot of jump rope, for some reason my thighs are already thick as fuck and I don't want to look weird in jeans. I'm just at the very least trying to get to a decent V-taper asap.
I'm just trying to improve my physique where I think it needs the most work. I know it's a stupid workout. But I can do it consistently with my weird schedule (at least 3 times a week)
Charles Allen
Do sticky reads.
Gabriel Martin
>le cardio builds legs meme >le my legs are naturally big meme Dear lord do i ever fucking hate normies
Leo Carter
S T I C K Y T I C K Y
Jace Nguyen
Bruh... this is really bad.
50lbs OHP is horrible unless you're a girl. Add lateral raises for support, also probably seated overhead press (dumbbells)
To do more pullups, add wide grip and narrow grip pulldowns as well as over and underhand.
I assume you're targeting forearms because of the farmer's walks, which are pretty much pointless by themselves. Add supplementation to these if you're looking for forearm gains.
Do squats regardless, I guarantee your thighs won't get any bigger; it helps with core and glutes.
Focusing on calves by doing cardio is pretty much autismal. Do calf raises instead.
Chase Green
Also my gym lacks a squat rack, so the best I could do is goblin squats.
Ayden Jenkins
ABCABCx
A (Chest/Tri): -Flat Bench 4x6 -Incline DB Bench 4x8 -Flies 4x8 -Tricep Pulldowns 4x8 -Dips 4x8
B (Back/Bi): -Deadlift 4x6 -Pullups/Pulldowns 4x8 -Closegrip Rows 4x8 -EZ Bar curlz 4 gurlz 4x8 -Hammer DB curlz 4x8 -Shurgz 4x8
C: Legs
Sebastian Williams
Is this summer Veeky Forums? Literally every routine in this thread is terrible. One guy recommends a shitty version of ss with no accessories and then says after a couple of months do a terrible bro split. Another guy has 'naturally' big legs so he just does cardio for them. What's happening to this board bros.
Aaron Robinson
post body if you think you're such a profound lifter, along with a program
Ryder Wright
>goblin squats
Hunter Collins
what about my routine m8 the one above u
Kevin Martin
Do ss until you have at least a body weight squat and deadlift and nearly a 1 plate bench, then switch to greyskull for a couple months. Then think about doing a retarded split.
Brayden Russell
>implying there's anything deeply concerning about the routines he posted It's not perfect but it'll get the fucker started m8
James Barnes
Your goal body used roids to achieve it. Keep that in mind.
B: OHP 3x5 Squat 3x5 Diddly 1x5 (obviously with several warmup sets) Chins 3x8 Dips 3x8 Abs
Sometimes when I'm not too fatigued in terms of biceps, I'll ad some curls just to squeez out whatever energy I have left
Josiah Thompson
That's what happens when trappy leaves for the weekend.
Noah Butler
Looks okay. I don't really like the idea of chins+dips every day. I think it'd be better served to do triceps+dips on A and chins+curls on B. YMMV, IANAB.
Isaac Walker
>terrible bro split >literally just says do a 5-day split with examples Are you autism?
Anthony Thompson
Unless he's orca fat and pretty weak he should be diddlying bodyweight and benching 135 very quickly, if not already
Oliver Butler
>implying that's not achievable natty fit these days, I fucking swear
Charles Baker
This is good, maybe a bit too much volume with chins and dips everyday. You should probably remove dips from day A since you're hitting chest twice already.
Blake Williams
Not with OP's routine. At least not in the first decade.
Gabriel Davis
That's what I was thinking, too.
My tris usually feel pretty fatigued by the time I get to dips on workout A. So I usually just do then unweighted (I do weighted dips on workout B, forgot to mention).
I'll try taking them out of workout A for a while and see how I feel
Brayden Thompson
>im pretty fat He is literally brand new to lifting. And his routine doesn't introduce him to 3/4 of the major lifts every beginner should be doing.
Adam Wright
Just do tricep dips as opposed to chest.
Mason Harris
A: Diddy 5/3/1 Front Squat 4x8 Calf Raises 3x15-20 Hanging Leg Raises 3xF
B: Push Press 5/3/1 Weighted Chins 3x5 DB Row 4x8 Dips 4xF Face Pulls 3x12-15
D: Pendlay Row 5/3/1 Weighted Dips 3x5 Military Press 4x8 Pullups 4xF Face Pulls 3x12-15
When I write 5/3/1, I mean the proper periodized 5/3/1 progression.
>inb4 no binch I dislike the bench. I don't compete in PL. I don't want a huge chest. I get good chest involvement with dips.
Connor Allen
i literally could not do B without getting burnt out mid way
i can't even squat and dl on the same day
Isaiah Lee
Well I'm not doing heavy weights yet, so I can get through the workout. By the time I'm able to actually squat and diddly some heavier weights, I'll probably switch it up.
Benjamin Rodriguez
>Snatch Grip DL Have you found this to be a good supplement to your normal deadlift? I know you're supposed to go lighter with them, but I've never tried. Does it target different muscles?
Bentley Phillips
Same muscles, but puts a lot more strain on your back and grip strength.
Oliver Williams
>grip strength Very nice. Will add. Thanks.
Brody Davis
Most people just hookgrip or use straps though. It's very difficult to hold the bar when you go wide.
Jonathan Allen
>do a 5 split Literally retarded
Jaxson Richardson
bump
Isaac Torres
oh my fucking god talk about horrible advice .. fit/knows nothing about aesthetics..
Austin Lopez
>goblin squats
Josiah Torres
I feel like I would be in the gym for 40 minutes max and then be done. u should just add more exercises
Jace Ross
damn mane, do you even eat
James Perry
Please r8 my routine guys. Working points: arms and abs
Please rate my routine, lifting twice a week for grappling:
Day 1 Power Clean 3/4/5/6x3 Front Squat 3/4/5/6x3 OHP 3/4/5/6x3
Day 2 Power Clean 3x3/3rm/2rm/1rm +3x3 Back Squat 5x5rm/3rm/2rm/1rm + 3x3 Incline Bench 5x5rm/3rm/2rm/1rm +1x8-10
The rep maxes aren't true maxes, just daily maxes at a weight I can hit without grinding.
Thoughts?
Gavin Peterson
I'm currently 5'10 160lb at ~10%BF. My lifts are Bench: 190 Squat: 245 Deadlift: 280 The Press: 115x3/100x6 Chinup: +50x8/+75x3
I haven't squated or diddlyed since february since I already had relatively big legs proportionaly, but I've recomped a bit and am working them back into the program.
I've been inconsistently lifting about 3 days a week for the past three months, and have been getting decent gainz the whole time. I want to have more trackable linear progression by having a set program. Does this look good? I might up the volume to 4 times a week during summer because conditions will be more ideal (more free time to eat/lift).
Three day split AB AXBXAXX, BXAXBXX
A Bench 3x4-6 Weighted Chinup 3x4-6 Front Squat 3x4-6 OHP 3x4-6
Deadlift - RPT 3x3-5 Hold bar as long as possible on last rep Squat - 3x6-10 Snatch Grip Deadlift - 3x8-12 Leg Press - 3x8-12 Barbell Rows - 3x6-8 Barbell Wrist Curls - 3x10-15
>Triceps are 75% of your arm >Triceps are the most useful muscle on your entire arm >DON'T WORK ON THEM!! IT'S BAD FOR BEGINNERS!!! This is why everyone on Veeky Forums has shit triceps
Nicholas Nguyen
that routine is shit. too much volume.
Do. Starting. Strength.
Cooper Long
are you on steroids?
also calf raises are bullshit. waste of time
Leo Watson
Am I gonna overtrain?
>A Bench 3x5 Row 3x8 25 pullups DB incline bench 3x10 The Press™ 3x8 Squats/deads/lunges Facepulls 3x10 Hammer curls 3x10
>B The Press™ 3x5 Row 3x8 25 pullups DB incline bench 3x8 Squats/deads/lunges Rear delt flys 3x10 Cable crossovers 3x10
3 days a week, I generally do a pyramid set for the legs
Justin Murphy
well what do you do for calves then? sprints?
Samuel Taylor
>I'm trying to increase my main 4 lifts, increasing weight each week
what are your stats?
why don't you do the Texas Method?
Austin Baker
nothing, calves are genetic. the most size you can get if you're lucky is 1cm
Matthew Davis
are you on steroids? are you a beginner?
Juan Ramirez
Posted a thread for this, but might as well post it here too... this is a routine I worked up as a follow-up to my 6+ months of a 3 day full body split. Will this get me sick gains?
Days 5 and 6 repeats of days 1 and 2 with reps halved and weights increased
Andrew Baker
Natty, intermediate. 130/180/240/300
Evan Rogers
bw?
Ryder Howard
180
Kayden Wood
you'll overtrain natty. do a real established routine, don't make your own shit up
looks pretty shitty. why would you do mixed grip pullups? why not just do regular pullups?
wrist curls are shit for grip, do farmers walk or plate pinches.
completely get rid of days five and six, that's retarded.
are you on steroids?
Leo Thompson
I think still have some LP gains to do m8
I'm 130/185/275/315 at 185lbs and don't feel like an intermediate yet
Justin Gutierrez
nvm, you're not intermediate. keep doing SS.
Logan Reyes
>I think you still have some LP gains to do m8 fixed
Julian Campbell
Change them to 5rm. I think most would hit intermediate.
Parker Garcia
addition, seeing as how all of your lifts are about the same except for your ohp which shoots up, you're most likely half repping or otherwise not locking out your ohp.
Luis Morris
Mixed grip are easier on the joints and more evenly train the bicep and brachialis.
Wrist curls are for forearm aesthetics, not grip strength.
How are having strength days in addition to hypertrophy days retarded?
T: BB rows 4x6 (weighted) pullups 3x10 or curls 3x10 facepulls or high cable rows 3x10 hamstring curls 3x10
W: Dead 5x6 press 3x6 dips 4x6
T and F are repeats of monday and tuesday
Henry Gonzalez
true, they are intermediate at 5rm, but why did you put them down as 1rm previously?
Jaxon Morris
what is this from?
Nathan Phillips
I didn't specify, just didn't think about it I guess.
Jace Cox
>Mixed grip are easier on the joints and more evenly train the bicep and brachialis. source
>Wrist curls are for forearm aesthetics how does that fucking matter? you want some size on your forearms don't you? wouldn't it make sense to choose the best exercise to achieve this?
>How are having strength days in addition to hypertrophy days retarded? you're training six days a week.
>I am not on steroids answers that question pretty well
Julian Nelson
strengthstandards.co
i apologize then. do a real intermediate routine, don't make up your own
Hudson Evans
apologies on the first one, I meant neutral grip rather than mixed.
Noted your suggestion on farmers walks rather than wrist curls.
The six days a week comment is a fair point. Although I will say that on my current 3 day split I never really feel as though I couldn't go to the gym on my rest days. Is PPLPPL for example not doable natty?
Levi Martin
is this you?
Hunter Bennett
yup. Like I said I posted a thread for it, but at first everyone was just turning it into a taytay circlejerk so I posted here too.
Liam Harris
I workut 2 days a week. Chest day and back day, the day I go back to hit chest