i've asked in /meg/ and read through the Physical Training Guide. it seems the guide is geared more towards basic minimum requirements, and other than the Veeky Forumsmeg/ guy, everyone just suggests Couch25k any active duty or prior service have and tips for standing out physically at Basic? Currently at >50 pushups in 2 minutes >40-60 sit ups in 2 minutes >2 mile run in 18:00, sometimes a little faster
i know i need to work on my run, tips? any idea how to get more pushups and sit ups? this seems to be my max, can't seem to do more
It's literally just cardio. I went in to the Navy doing a 6:30 mile, 60 push-ups/2 minutes, and 80 to 90 sit-ups/2 minutes and I was basically in top percent for how fit I was. Run as much as you can and if you want to improve your push-ups and sit-ups, do the 5 minute interval thing. 5 minutes of nonstop push-ups followed by 5 minutes of rest for 30 minutes. Don't do it more than once or twice a week.
Basic lifting for strength and just overall feeling and looking better is recommended. If you're going for specops then just train cardio even harder. I did the Diver test about a year into service and passed it easy. Endurance is all that it's about
Oliver Jenkins
how did you get your mile so low? everytime i try to "go all out", my ankles and thighs are fucked for a couple days. and my time isn't greatly improved either
I'll try the 5 min intervals with pushups
Eli Cook
Bumping because I'm interested too. I plan to put in my paperwork for my country's reserves in the next month, which give me about a year before basic. And since it's reserves, I'll have to be in the top of the pack to get any good jobs or assignments.
Isaac Long
A lot of training. It isn't about going hard, it's about seeing how far you can go. My best time is 6:30, on average my mile is around 6:50 I should have corrected that. It's part mental too. When I started picturing chains pulling my hips back and forth, my run improved a lot since running is supposed to be focused on your hips and upper legs. Focusing too much on your ankles will fuck shit up.
Swimming helps too. I used to swim half a mile daily at my peak and it helped my breathing and endurance immensely.
Jaxon Lopez
shit i wish i had a year. i leave in a little less than a month and all my progression has just stopped. i started training 5 months ago as a smoker and about 30 lbs overweight. but now i want to get better but body says "no"
Colton Moore
Honestly if you just aim for top score on the USMC PFT and hell even throw in the CFT you should be fine for any military fitness test.
Aiden Morris
can you elaborate a little more on the chains and hips? i don't even think about my hips, maybe my form is fucking me
Jonathan Bell
God I fucking hate wookies so goddam much. 2 Ribbon having female "sergeants" and shit. We had some stupid as female captain last deployment who would go for runs around the wire and have her Marines film her doing it and doing push-ups and shit so she could post it on her fitness Instagram #fit #Marines #Semperfi #hardcorps #femalemarine #butimstrongastheboys etc etc
Women in the military was a mistake
Christian Torres
Have you tried taking a day or two off? Might seem counter intuitive, but in the past when struggling with lifting, I sometimes took an extra rest day to let my body recover fully before going at it again.
Your call though. Good luck man
Connor James
I'm not the best runner. I do about 15 mins for my two mile on the pt test. I came across this article though and it seems pretty legit. A year a go I couldn't even run one mile without stopping. Hiit does a lot of good. And far runs. You're going to want to do more than a 5k once or twice a week for sure. This article might help taskandpurpose.com/how-to-crush-your-2-mile-run-like-an-olympian/
Leo Rogers
Op u need to literally work on everything those seem like the absolute minimal standards to barely scrape by on a pt test in a mom infantry unit. Unless the army is just that easy?
Ayden Bell
the only time I've taken two days off is when i pushed myself too hard and fucked my ankles and thighs >so bad i could barely walk upstairs the next morning
Hudson Myers
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Nicholas Clark
thank you for this! great article, I'm going to start incorporating this into my runs.
Grayson Myers
OP, I ran a 15:13 5k in college and have fun sub 9 minute 2 mile races. If you need to improve your running speed, you need to specialize your training. You have to do an over-distance day, a threshold day, an anaerobic day, and a competition or effort day, each week.
Over distance days are long runs - about 3-5 times the distance of the event you are training for.
Threshold is running at about 75-85% of max heart rate for sustained efforts.
Anaerobic days are 400m repeats on a track at pace
Competition/effort days are days where you try to set a new 2 mile PR
The rest of the days are recovery runs/junk miles.
Nolan Collins
critique me >monday get up at 5:30/6, stretch, walk half a mile to the middle school track. run about 75% speed for 1.5 miles, walk home >around 6/7pm warm up/stretch, walk back to track, run 2 miles as fast as i can. walk home
>tuesday same thing
>wednesday i take the dog on a 3-4 mile walk, roads sidewalks gravel woods dirt/sand, sometimes we jog but its about 80% just walking. >wednesday night i go to the track and run 1.5-2 miles
>thursday and friday same as monday and tuesday
>saturday and sunday is a mix bag, depending on my schedule. sometimes i walk the dog, sometimes i run at the track, sometimes i just walk around the neighborhood etc
i know its not perfect, and i'm getting more disciplined. i'm also going to incorporate some of that stuff from the Olympian article above.
i also have to improve my sit up and pushups, i just bust a few of those out every hour, and do some pullups everytime i pass the pullup bar attached to my door
Noah Gray
Honestly it's shit. Just like lifting weights the only way to ever improve is to overload. You have to train well past the distance that you intend to improve.
Try this: Sunday - long run 3-5x distance of event, slowish Monday - 8x400m intervals with 60-90 seconds rest in between Tuesday - recovery run, (3-5 miles) Wednesday - warm up 1 mile, 2 miles of threshold running at 75-85% max heart rate, cool down 1 mile Thursday - recovery run Friday - recovery run Saturday - try to set 2 mile PR or repeat Wednesday's workout
Connor Russell
The 400m intervals should be fast - 90%+ of max HR
Austin Powell
the recovery run should be just a light jog? thank you for the help!
Anthony Bennett
> pushups till Failure x 3 in morning
> 25 situps and then 1 minute plank right after x 4
> do these every day, rest over weekends
> couch to 5k
this is the bare minimum you need to do
as long as you can pass the minimum standard like a bitch ass pussy they'll push you through
its harder to fail out than it is to get pushed through, just dont go private pyle
Jeremiah Butler
i just thought they'd give you shit for bare minimums
Jace Peterson
Yep. They're called junk miles Just to get your legs used to the beating, and to get some blood flow to facilitate recovery. Light exercise is the best way to recover from strenuous efforts. No more than 65-75% of max heart rate. It's oftentimes difficult to run that slowly but you have to force it.
As the miles become easier and you're better able to hit your 400m repeats more accurately, you can increase the mileage, decrease the pace of the 400m, increase the number of reps to do, etc. it's all about adding total miles and a percentage of that mileage should be effort based and recovery based. If you want an in depth look, read a book called "Daniels' running formula" it's the gold standard
Hudson Brown
thanks so much user
William Martin
I mean, ya its gonna suck way more dick for you if you can hardly do 50 pushups than the guy who can pump out 100
you're gonna get smoked either way
Michael Parker
No problem. Good luck. Be patient, don't overdo the recovery days by running too fast. You only get faster by recovering from your hard workouts. Make a plan and stick to it. When I was running I planned y runs for 3 months in advance and didn't deviate unless I was really sick or something. You have to hold yourself accountable.
Oliver Campbell
yeah i figured, either way. but isn't the AFPT score at the end of basic kind of important? it affects promotion points, what kind of unit you go to?
Leo Russell
Nothing is going to prepare you for the absolute ass whooping in bootcamp. You'll push your body till it fails and be expected to push it pass that day in and say out. Stay extremely hydrated since ass whoopings happen at random.
Caleb Morales
not really, I knew guys who went in with a 300 and came out barely passing cause they were so broken
it doesn't matter
Eli Hughes
>5 minutes of rest >for 30 seconds wat? I'm a retard who wants to get better at doing pushups, but can you explain this to me again?
Asher Green
Not that guy, but read it again, its 30 minutes not seconds.
Jeremiah Lopez
goddamn, can't wait. Oklahoma in the summer plus soulcrushing physical tasks
Jeremiah Gray
goddammit. I said I was a retard.
William James
I think what he is saying is you have to generate more power from your hips. I guess he does this by visualizing pulling chains attached at his hips. Idk, but it makes sense to me. Too many people try to get faster by lengthening their stride which cause a bouncing motion, which will wear out your ankles, shins, and knees faster. What he's suggesting is basically moving your legs faster over the same distance (same stride that is). Try it on a treadmill to get a feel for it. Don't rely on hamster wheels too much, but they're great for practicing form and getting a feel for how your body moves during higher speeds.
Aaron Moore
this makes sense, and yes i've attempted the longer strides thing, with negative results
Aaron Parker
Army boot is easy. When they say boot is 90% mental, they mean it. I went into the Marine Corps never having run 3 Miles in my life and doing 3 pull-ups, and I graduated boot camp with a 21:00 3-Mile and 18 Pull ups. They will train your body. You will get fucked up regularly, but do what you're told, be loud, and aggressive, you'll be fine.
Jeremiah Miller
i don't want to be the best or worst, just gray man the entire time and try to fly under the radar
If you're joining the US army your APFT score in BCT and AIT will not matter as long as you pass with a score of 60 in each event. Once you get to an actual unit your APFT score will effect promotion points. The only thing your BCT APFT score will effect is your eligibility for end of training awards (for example the Audie Murphy Award for infantry basic training or Excellence in Armor for tanker or cav scout)
Leo Wright
goddamn my recruiter is a fucking idiot
Robert Thomas
I doubt he's an idiot. He's just not telling you the whole truth because he wants you to be well-prepared physically before you ship. If you fail out of basic because you can't pass your APFT or get hurt you won't be counted towards his recruitment numbers.
But it really is in your best interest to be in the best shape you can be before you leave, it will make it that much easier. The training itself wasn't that hard for me, and I wasn't in that great of shape. It was living with the dregs of society 24/7 that made my training difficult.
Blake Bailey
You don't belong.
Nathaniel Bennett
DON'T FUCKING JOIN Best advice a Marine can give you, go to college, enjoy your freedoms.
Ryder Johnson
the kids at MEPS were all fat as fuck, smokers, dumb.. if these are the people i'm going to basic with, i should be alright. there were like 3 super/fit/ dudes, 2 going marines, 1 trying to be a Ranger
Jace Hill
have been runner for many years. This guy has the best advice for improving mile/ 2mile time. Just make sure you are timing yourself for whatever set distance you are running so you can improve on it next time.
Ryan Carter
Yeah, I'll be honest with you, the dumbest people I have I ever met, I met in the military. You have to be a tremendous pussy to not make it through BCT.
Jose Evans
yeah, i don't belong in basic, you're right. but unfortunately there's no way to skip that part, user
David Wood
Wtf, going stealth is the best way to get through basic. Seriously, it's not gonna follow you around.
Camden Price
that's what i was saying, but captain america doesn't think i'm worthy for HIS army lol
Jace Gutierrez
Goings to MEPS to get that all sorted soon and am going to shoot for 1C2X1 im a pretty small guy but im really toned and have a low 7 minute mile, what should i do to prepare other than endurance training?
Sebastian Evans
> hurr dur I'm gonna showboat and prove Imma supersoldier in basic, surely that'll impress my DS and he'll promote me to an E12 right after I get out
Andrew Wright
To improve how fast you run you gotta do som interval training... Here are some different interval training options: 1. Speedgame - 5 min. easy run. 2 min. as fast as possible. 5 min. easy. 2 min. easy. 5 min. easy 2. 60/60, 60 sec. as fast as possible 60 sec walk. x10 3. Once a week, 4 weeks - W1 10x200, W2 4x500, W3 5x600, W4 5x800.
If you run three times a week it could be something like: Day 1: Speed Game + 60/60 Day 2: Nr. 3 + 10 min. Light jog Day 3: Distance Running
Just some ideas
Noah Baker
what asvab score did you get user?
Xavier Johnson
Sorry... In nr. 1 i meant 5 min easy, 2 min. hard, 5 min. easy 2 min. hard, 5 min. easy
Landon Green
99, GT 143.
But it doesn't matter too much because I can't even run an 8 minute mile yet. Probably need to start taking some of the advice from this thread, because fuck.
Elijah Evans
Your pushups are probably garbage, and your run needs to be waaayyyy faster or you're gunna fucking hate life.
Shoot for sub 13 two mile, and 70 GOOD FORM pushups.
Caleb Collins
very nice, I got a 97 on mine (stupid mechanical section)
Thats a top tier score though, what mos?
Anthony Hughes
Canadian Forces for 3 years here. Our fitness standards are a fucking joke. Here's the test:
I kinda like how it's not just about cardio and more about weighted compound movements, but a 30lb sandbag is nothing. Even PT at basic and my trades course was a joke.
Justin Phillips
>Attractive female marine Times sure have changed bros
Juan Gutierrez
Tools and Auto Body sections don't count toward your percentile score, it seems. I fucked up pretty hard on those parts because I didn't bother preparing for them and still came out on top in terms of the final score.
Probably anything that bears semblance to a 9-to-5 civilian job. I've heard of people signing up for more combat-oriented MOS, but my thinking is, I'd rather not have a bullet hole somewhere on my person if possible. 36B sounds right up my alley since that seems to be the only job in the similar vein as my civilian career goal.
But of course I understand I need to shake myself out of the meme mentality that cardio is somehow detrimental to my health. Rather the contrary if I don't want to see myself getting my ass kicked in basic.
Charles Walker
You're honestly wasting yourself on that mos man. Go into military intelligence or something that gets you a TS clearance. Once you get out, you will literally be able to get a job anywhere and companies will be sending you more offers than you can deal with. Totally safe, too.
Colton Campbell
Just graduated OSUT a couple weeks ago, now I'm in Airborne hold. My DS didn't even know who I was until week 13, everyone was impressed really.
Nolan Martinez
That feel when Americans will never know the sheer agony of yomping.
Parker Thompson
RM?
Logan Wood
thats a great way to do it user
I probably will stick out like a sore thumb in basic cause I've been doing ROTC and rsp for national guard and I'm kind of a pt stud (still gotta get my run time down after an injury inshallah)
I'm not gonna tell anyone that I'm a cadet/ in the guard, or even showboat, but I won't hold back o0n pt. I've heard that everyone likes a pt stud anyways though (as long as you aren't showboating)
Cooper Price
monday- Long run
Kayden Carter
are you some kind of muhreen faggot?
Anthony Kelly
>stand out at basic
Rip. Better to be a wallflower unless you want to have your rack moved into the CC's for being a good little recruit.