Tfw socially retarded, no friends

But who do I even talk to. The only powwow I see are coworkers, who don't like me, and that I've left a bad impression on. And strangers on the street

> only people I see
Not powwow

It's fags like OP that make me realise that you can build muscle, but you can never hustle.

Stay virgin Veeky Forums

Rude

I was like you, and by that I mean I was like you about a few months ago. I didn't know where to talk to people. And I didn't for awhile.

I don't know how old you are, but perhaps you should consider getting a new job and starting anew. You said you ride the train, there's new people on there every day. I would also go to a public gym for nothing else but to get the opportunity to meet people. I'm still working on this stuff too, and I don't have much else to contribute. But we're all gunna make it brah

Get ripped. Women will do the work of talking for you

Am I weak if I cum just by looking at DAT ASS

disregard people alltogether, become the best you possible

false lmfao abmormalities in social interaction cause this you fuckhead
>had only had sex once
told girl who became my gf i was very experienced
>tfw she still believes everything i said months later
>getting laid all the time makes ab workouts amazing wow

>powwow instead of people
Can this be a new meme?

It comes with being fit I guess. I masturbated 3 times yesterday, and once was because I woke up at 3:00 am and was horny af

Am I cursed to have this much sexual drive when blessed with mussells?

Get hobbies that involve you getting outside.

Rowing club is always a good one, full of old people, tons of people to talk to.

Go to the gym. Get a haircut, shave, lose weight, eat better, learn another language and take classes.

Learn to play piano, easy as fuck for the basics.

All the lonely friendless people I know don't do anything. You make friends by meeting people. University/work/hobbies. On the weekends go hiking, get a dog.

Why would you want to drag a girl into your personal hell? Need to fix your life first.

how do I get high energy like you

>tfw stomach makes horrific noises whenever I'm anxious
>Have lost multiple opportunities with qts because of this shit
Why the fuck is this happening?
It only happens around girls and during exams.
Why does my body not want me to get a woman?

Also, what do you do if you want a gf but don't really want any friends?
I really don't care for friends and I'd feel I was just using them to get at girls.

Fatties bro

who is this fluid druid

>powwow

user, what the fuck

No

Thanks for the ideas

Maybe a gg can save me from my loser ways. And I'd have someone to do things with, instead of doing everything alone

You'll never get a gf if you don't have friends.

Girls like guys that seem like they're able to be social, even if they themselves are shut in losers. If I saw a guy with no friends I'd think something was really wrong with him.

are you fucking retarded
dont you know what nervousness is?
youre like a kid that asks why does his peepee feel funny when he sees a girl

Swype
>proofreading on Veeky Forums

Gf, not gg

I think the important thing is the mindset. Go for what you want. Don't think about it, just go for it. Find some girl attractive? Talk to her. Immediately, no thinking. Flirt with her. Ask her out on a date. I don't think rejection will be nearly as bad as you think. Just behaving as if you are deserving of a qt will be a self esteem boost.

Try it with the girls at work. Who gives a fuck what they think as long as you arent in danger of being fired. They already dislike you, right? So what are you going to lose?

That won't help him make friends you idiot

OP how old are you?

I've been in the same place and a gf didn't help, it just complicated things

I don't know what to say
And also worried about getting fired, or known as the creepy loser. Instead of just a loser

30

That's not true either. It's a cyclical process. Arrested social development is often caused by an external stimulus in early childhood, such as parental neglect or abuse. This lack of development then reinforces negative behaviors, such as isolationism or escapism, which drive the individual even further away from a normal childhood. The longer this cycle persists, the more difficult it is to recover later in life.

Literally me man. I don't know what to do, not do I believe a thread on Veeky Forums is going to show me the light and give me enthusiastic passions in life. Although I'd say stop giving a fuck about the gf meme and just focus on your personal pyramid of needs from its base point. also go to the gym, just get the membership, considering you have a job you can pay for it; make the effort to turn up and you will start doing the workouts almost automatically.

no amount of normie advice we can give you will help unless your mindset adapts accordingly, preferably to a mindset that doesn't give a shit if people realize you're weird. try and embed yourself into conversations or social situations with your co--workers, they will most likely want to give you a chance and accept you, if not, it doesn't matter either.

If you stop thinking in arbitrary terms and ideas like 'loser' or 'weird' and begin to realize the subjectivity of reality and perception by yourself and others then your psyche will be more freed from your mental prison.

You're a 30 year old virgin? Man you are beyond fucked at this point

You need to go out literally every night and hit on women until you find one to fuck

Socializing is alot like lifting. You dont start out being able to lift 500lbs, just as you wont start out being able to drop panties with a silver tongue.
It takes study and practice. Training. The socially inept complaining that they cant talk to girla are like hamplanets with skelly muscle structure complaining hey cant lift, run, or get up the stairs with out breaking into a sweat

>when your GF is stopping you from talking to your friends

They are good for banter and share lifting interests but pretty shitty people.

Feelsbadman.

>get fit
>hike a popular local trail
>meet cuties out there
>literally say hey
Just be interesting. Get a hobby. Shoot guns. Explore trails. Find local waterfalls. Etc

Protip, you have to be cute already

nah i did the same thing today

>get home
>pull down pants
>start looking at porn while beatin it
>this girls ass reminds me of my ex
>whip out my phone
>go through my private folder thats just nudes of ex
>beat to the memory of hittin that

Im sad and pathetic but it felt good

Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only guy on Veeky Forums who doesn't know how to get a girl.

Maybe you should fake the confidence when you socialize with people (not just girls).

Lastly, keep lifting, more socialize and try to become a macho guy/douchebag.

I've seen this work for a lot of other guys countless times.

Girls like macho guys/douchebags.

This might help you.

who is she?

>tfw forked veins in my forehead when i laugh hard
>tfw right angle vein on the corner of my forehead looks really pronounced all the time

Who do I talk to though? Random strangers?

>be cute
What part of "ugly manlet" did you not understand

Go to sports clubs or any other clubs etc, don't be a pussy and be like "Oh what if they don't like me etc etc etc, trust me, you'd rather go and have a shit time than regret it. I always think like that and it's done a lot more good than harm!

>gym

people work out and go home

it isnt for socializing

>train

who talks to random people on a train?

>who talks to random people on a train?

One girl started talking to me because we had matching umbrellas

>friends are whipped or married

>only option is to go out alone on a friday/saturday

>cant do stuff by yourself without looking like a loser

what in the fuck are you supposed to do solo?

>cant make friends cause not going out

>cant go out cause no friends to do stuff with

it fucking blows

Two options
>lower standard significantly
>increase your smv

Do martial arts. Made tons of friends between TKD and my boxing gym

so how do you meet people without a social circle

>just talk to people

this doesnt work unless they already were interested

Find a lifting bro. Just ask someone to spot you (when you seriously need it) and then ask about his/her routine. Then ask if you want to workout together.

this, idk how to escape

nah, at the gym I keep to myself and do my routine

it's a place to train, not socialize

im just sick of having nothing to do on the weekend, but I have to force myself out there I guess

some chick out of the blue just messaged me that shes getting her nipples pierced is it fair to assume shes keen on the d

halp pls

Go anywhere
Say Fuck it
Talk to anyone about anything
Hope theyll want to hang out
Repeat if fails

anywhere? why would random people want to talk to some other random person for no reason?

girls will only want to talk if they find you hot

Tell her that's a shit idea and only nasty whores and shitty douches like body piercings.

>tfw socially retarded, no friends
> ugly manlet
> no hobbies, or passions

Do you think a girl would want a man like that? In your job of fixing your self/life i'd say the thing that you have to prioritize is some kind of activities/hobbies/occupation/interest, and then friends. Or maybe something like this

1. Friends
2. Hobbies/activities/interests
3. work/education/career/employment
4. gf

You are not gonna get a girlfriend before you get 1-3. Women do not want a fucking loner that spends his time in front of a computer.

If you don't know how to make friends and you never had friends then maybe talk to a therapist to figure out if something is going on that you need to fix etc. If you are autistic then there are maybe some kind of support groups in your city where you can meet people. Google it

>Maybe a gg can save me from my loser ways.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
let me say that again
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
no.

There is nobody that can save your from your loser self other then you, and the mentality of a girl saving you is as wrong as it can get. The moment a girl feels she is saving you she becomes your mother and there is not gonna be a lot of sexual attraction there. Women like someone who though, sophisticated in his skills and his dealings with the world. Someone who is good at life, at doing shit, at working trough obstacles and shit.

And anyone is gonna save you, its gonna be friends, those are for life while gf/bf relationship always ends, especially for young people.

I can relate to that guy, or where he's coming from

you see, if you arent already a desirable male, making friends alone is difficult. forget about a gf for a second. you are the type of guy that noone sees as cool, or wanted. you dont stand out in any particular way, you are average at best.

now, if you cant even make friends easily, how the fuck are you supposed to catch the eye of women, who are even more critical?

you people saying "just be yourself" or "just talk to people" have no fucking idea how difficult it is to do those things, when life has dealt you a shitty hand. tell the guy with a disfigured face to go chat up girls at a bar. I guarantee you, he will get shot down miserably.

this is why "just be yourself" is awful advice. and sometimes, trying new things isnt even enough.

not only that, but years of being neglected or alone will do a number on how you see the world, or other people.

obviously you should tell her you'll need to see them so you can compare them before and after.

But on a more serious note it really depends on the context she brought it out. post the message.

I am just saying that if you are that down and low then down-prioritize a gf and focus on other things. I am not saying that its easy, i am just what i believe to be the truth.

>you are the type of guy that noone sees as cool, or wanted. you dont stand out in any particular way, you are average at best.
>you are average at best.
I'd just like to point out that everyone is average at best, don't try to be perfect, don't feel failed because you are average. That is impossible high standards that does you no good in any way.
I am average, most of my friends are average, most people i know are average. Some less some more

>you people saying "just be yourself" or "just talk to people" have no fucking idea how difficult it is to do those things
I am not saying that.

>but years of being neglected or alone will do a number on how you see the world, or other people.
Which is why i say "go to a psychologist to figure out if there is something you need to fix", people who got a bad start at the social life often develop maladaptive ways of perceiving them self and other people and they need to correct those impressions because they keep them from interacting with other people.

> tell the guy with a disfigured face to go chat up girls at a bar. I guarantee you, he will get shot down miserably.
But we aren't talking about such a bad case here. And that guy needs to lower his standards and meet someone in other ways.

You know, its a hard life, i've been popular i've been alone, i've been down and out. I know this shit

post 1/2

I think "just be yourself" is more about not trying to "fake it 'til you make it." If you want to be someone with friends, hobbies, and a gf you're gonna have to make the changes to your life that allow those things to happen. You're never gonna change if you spend every night attached to your computer screen jacking off to trap porn and blogging about your pathetic feels.

When we say "just be yourself," you've clearly stated that you want to have friends and hobbies, but you continue to act in a manner that will never help you reach your goals. If you really wanna be yourself(with friends, hobbies, etc.) you're gonna have to get off your ass and do something about it.

or in tl;dr form- our wants are our true nature, doing anything else is acting in bad faith and you aren't "being yourself"

Post 2/2

>"just be yourself"
This means something else. This means that lets say you are hanging out with someone, your friends etc and you are cool, chatting and chilling, then some other people or women joins your group and you get nervous or shy because you are afraid that you will say something stupid so you are holding back what you usually would say, your jokes, comments, thoughts (you are holding back your personality), this is where "just be your self" is to be applied. It means, stop holding hiding your thoughts/comments/talk and show it.

That is where that advice is to be given in my opinion

also OP do yourself a favor and read this book, helped me loads going from a homeschooled social retard to a more-or-less-normal college student.

yourcoach.be/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Dale-Carnegie-How-to-win-friends-and-influence-people.pdf

haha she invited me out and said that shes not sure if its a good idea to go out cos shes getting her nipples pierced i said just do it im going out and i said tattoos and and piercings are sexy to me and then she said that shes getting a tattoo next week so at this point im pretty sure shes keen and im gonna hook up with her tomorrow. thats my take on it tho im kinda good at this shit but i could be better(fucked over 20 chicks)

even if you go to a psych, that wont raise your market value.

some people will make it, many will not. some will get rich, others will die poor. that's life.

you can improve yourself in an effort to reach those goals, but ultimately trying doesnt mean you will succeed.

sure, trying is better than doing nothing, but it doesnt mean it will work either. I lift right now because it makes me feel good, and look good. I accept that im not a top tier male, im not going to be rich or fuck models. I accept that I have flaws that I cant change, and that's okay.

some people are born aesthetic, other people arent. some people get sex easily, other people have to pay for it.

and in all honesty, if I have to settle for a 5/10 whale just to not be alone, I would rather put a gun in my mouth. that just isnt worth it.

OP here, thinking of traveling for once in my life (used to be a lot more poor) and going to a hostel.. Heard you can make friends at those
How do I make sure I have a good time, and make friends without spilling my spaghetti?

>even if you go to a psych, that wont raise your market value.
If your problem is of the nature that i mentioned then yes that is gonna transform your life. But good job on ignoring my point you fucktard. Just reading your post i can tell i don't want to hang out with you. You aren't gonna make it.

>Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only guy on Veeky Forums who doesn't know how to get a girl.
Where do you think you are??

well if you're not gonna see them in person before she does it you might as well tell her to "send before & after pics ;-)"

Srsly bro, you should first work on your self-esteem, by focusin' on hobbies/activities, adopt better habits. Then when you're finally feeling good about yourself, socializing and all the rest will be a lot easier.

Just remind yourself of the inertia principle. You're currently at rest, once you will be moving, you'll be unstoppable.

Gl bro, believe in your potential.

yeah fuck it may as well ill keep talking and flirting with her and then ill send it may as well got nothing to lose plus shes been messaging me first in the day so i think im in with a good shot

So what you're saying is... friendship... is magic?

my whole point is that no matter how much you better yourself, ultimately you still have limits.

so lets say I feel better about myself. is that going to make my physical appearance more attractive to women? no, that's a shell im stuck with forever.

im not even upset with my looks, but I would hardly call myself special.

After food and shelter its the most important need.

different user, but jokes on you, i study CS eng

>my whole point is that no matter how much you better yourself, ultimately you still have limits.
Why are you even saying that? That is such a fundamental fact that it does not need to be stated. Why are you saying this? How is this relevant? Like seriously, explain it pls

>im not even upset with my looks, but I would hardly call myself special.
Then what are you bitching about? WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

the hard thing is once you stop practicing socializing for some weeks or months, you go full retard again

I was better socializing the last year, but now with all the stem faggotry i'm back to my old autist self because i lost practice

fuck

im saying that because no matter how much I improve myself, I wont be able to attract the women I want. hence, limits. and hey, im not complaining, that's just how it is.

my point is you can better yourself in many ways but ultimately if you dont look good enough, you cant get what you want. dealing with that is difficult. it's like wanting to drive a ferrari, but you cant afford it.

Mate, here's something brutal. If you're an "ugly manlet", you have literally zero chance whatsoever. I know it sucks, but these days you have to be 8/10 minimum to get a girlfriend, with the exception of some beta provider role.

Ignore ANYONE who says anything otherwise, because this is actually the truth. Hell, look at Veeky Forums. For every guy who makes it, there are 25 who have been lifting for years and have nothing to show for it, other than muscles.

Okay now i understand.

>you cant get what you want. dealing with that is difficult. it's like wanting to drive a ferrari, but you cant afford it.
I don't get how you can feel that way. Like you are genuinely really upset that you can't' have the finest things in the world? How did you get such high standards to begin with? Where you spoiled or something? That is a sign of some kind of immaturity

This. Most young men in 2016 don't get laid. The whole "8-12 percent of men are virgins between 20-24" is BULLSHIT. The number is between 40-60% based on country. Women are getting more and more choice and validation and its simply Chad or nothing.

>hurr why dont you just become chad
lol. ahh, to be young and naive again.

im just bitter I guess, other people get girls easily and no matter what I do it doesnt seem to matter. I want to have fun, random hookups, whatever, but I just cant be the guy that girls want.

ive transformed my body and im proud of my progress, im just sad that I wont get to experience any of that. I guess im doomed to be a monk that trains all day and does nothing else.

if only I was more aesthetic, or taller, or whatever. it sucks knowing that no matter how hard you train that people wont find you attractive.

well, at least I have my health, thats good for something I guess?

But you just said your looks are average
>>im not even upset with my looks, but I would hardly call myself special.

Are you fucking with me? Mate, if you are not hideous then your problem is not your looks its your charisma and charm/ social skills.

>well, at least I have my health, thats good for something I guess?
Yeah health is a blessing

I guess years of being fat and now being fit has fucked with my confidence

maybe I look good, but if that was true girls would be all over me, no? other people are the best judge of appearance anyways, we are naturally biased about ourselves.

kinda hard to be charismatic/happy when you feel like shit cause you dont have much of a social life, you know? what am I supposed to do? put on a fake smile and pretend that everything is great?

Fuck it, i'm calling a top normie non-bitter cousin that i have, this friday i will go to a bar with him and it will be the most cringiest shit you will ever imagine but IT WILL BE MINE!, MINE CRINGE-FEST ONLY FOR MY PURE SELF-PLEASURE

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DANCE AND I WILL GO TO A DISCO WITH THIS FUCKER, FUCK IT, I WILL DO IT

THANKS FIT

Kinda similar. I'm not a virgin but only had 1 gf and lost it few months before 24th birthday.

My problem is I moved to different country and here I have very little friends. Most of them don't want ot do anything like ever, or just some boring shit, and can't meet anyone through them. One I go out with for coffees, met some of his friends so can meet more people like that but it sucks depending on someone like that, and he can be annoying at times plus with his gf all the fucking time pretty much.

When I came here I came with intention of being social, meeting ton of people, constantly doing it, going out, doing shit but it all went to shit along with my mood and depression came. I'm kinda getting out of it but it's still far from what I want and still barely any idea how to get it besides meeting people through that friend.
I can't just approach people on street in hopes they'll become friends lol, can try to pick up girls and that's less of a problem, really need to socialize more somehow. Also I feel partly I'm bit boring, or well I'm too passive need to become more engaged etc, think of stuff to do besides just sitting around talking. I'm not the most talkative guy and like girls, a resting bitch face, or well in my case i might seem angry or something so I try to smile more but I'm also always in a rush and like doing things quickly so yeah, rambling now so fml

>if only I was more aesthetic, or taller, or whatever. it sucks knowing that no matter how hard you train that people wont find you attractive.
>well, at least I have my health, thats good for something I guess?

well it could be the fact that you are obsessed with how you look and just wish that if you looked better you would score chicks.

the chad thing is fucking retarded. i'm the farthest thing away from chad: currently pursuing my PhD in philosophy and i drive a fucking prius. still doesn't keep me from slammin' because women actually care about things like if you have your fucking head on straight or not.

here's the mystery about this board:
>all women are superficial whores
>gotta be chad or else you ain't shit
>chads only attract superficial whores
>now i am a superficial whore myself
>and also lonely with no personality

but somehow women are the problem. look man, i don't know who you are but for some reason you believe that you can lift your way to meaningful relationships. why do you believe that? because Veeky Forums taught you that? make yourself an interesting and whole person and you will have lots of friends instead of complaining on the internet.

Dude do you fucking go to college?
Take a class at community near you.
If you're job won't let you take one class a week then you're just making up another excuse.

> currently pursuing my PhD in philosophy and i drive a fucking prius.

>not chad

fuck you really don't know what you are talking about

we all know humanities get laid like nothing even if it's full of cucks, it's like getting laid in a nursing career, the easiest shit imaginable

I hope you really do this op, very proud of you

I think years of being ignored/being fat has fucked me beyond repair. no matter how fit I get, i'll always see that fat guy who got no attention in the mirror.

meeting people after uni/college is near impossible it feels like, and I have no idea what to do on friday/saturday by myself, other than lift and do shit on the computer.

I just want to have fun, is that asking so much?

>STEM college

>invite partners to play billiards

>nobody wants to play except my best friend who is also lonely as fuck

>realize then that there is a big fucking party where everyone went and i didn't got invited even if i talked with all the motherfuckers in the week and i even invited them to billiards or doing shit after classes

I tried, social standing is literally satan

i'm not OP, just some random user

what's your social standing?

>but if that was true girls would be all over me, no?
No. For that to happen then you'd have to be approachable and open to communication etc, which you probably ain't because you feel like shit. Depressed/sad/lonely people are usually closed off.

You might also overlook and misread ques, lonely people do that. (its been studied.) And people who have been shunned socially often think that nobody wants anything to do with them so they don't even try etc. and then behave in ways which furthers their loneliness. This is the dysfunctional patterns that psychologist can help one sort out. There is a book "Reinventing Your Life: The Breakthrough Program to End Negative Behavior and Feel Great Again" that has a chapter on "social exclusion" that might be relevant.

>kinda hard to be charismatic/happy when you feel like shit cause you dont have much of a social life, you know? what am I supposed to do? put on a fake smile and pretend that everything is great?
Yeah I do know that. Its really hard. What i did was that i built some kind of small baseline happiness by being outside a lot, just wondering in the city, and interacting with people just eye contact and the most necessary of things while buying groceries, this made my depression go slightly away so i could put up a smile. And then use that little boost to try open up a conversation or something. Hobos, drunks and old people at benches in the city are often very polite and eager for conversation and might be a starting point. They aren't that threatening either. Lack of human contact does things on a physical level, its like a tank, if that goes empty then the body reacts, and it needs to be filled every day or it goes empty. Or that is how it is with me.

If you are really lonely i recommend you torrent this audiobook "Loneliness - Human Nature and the Need for Social Connection"

Okay hope this was useful. Hope yall make it. I am out