Why are you not doing light cycles, Veeky Forums?

This. Permacruise is whwre its at

What about if you need your body to be at its absolute best to preform your job and not be killed? I think that's more of a reason than to make money.

What are the side effects of a long term low dose?

Come on Veeky Forums I need answers.

Jelly attitudes from some people.

none

Are you going to ask what are the real pros there?

What the point of a low dose?
You'd be getting sightly increased results than a natty. You're wasting your money on unnoticable gains.

Go hard or go home senpai.
500mg/week or don't commit to sticking needles because as time goes on you WILL want to try other compounds.

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will you lose the gains after you stop?

Yes

Only the ones unsustainable by your natural levels of test

What actually is a pct, I know it's a post cycle therapy..but what is that?

Using a SERM with or without HCG to kickstart your natural Test production as exogenous T causes your body to stop producing it on its own.

Real talk:

It hasn't been studied enough.

So there's no evidence it'll fuck you up but there's no evidence it'll leave you healthy

Assuming that most men have low to average Test levels, a low dose is only going to put you at peak natty levels to a little bit over supra-physiological levels. If your blood work is fine, the only thing I can see is Prostate issues.

So... reputable sources?

tfw no lightcycle

Because I would be dependent on it, and it's not worth it to use unless you have an abnormal HPTA/testis that don't produce enough testosterone naturally or you are a competing athlete or someone who makes a living off your physique.

You dum-dum.

It's depressing lifting weights and seeing no progress when you're at your natural limit.

Don't worry you'll get there

Why not use 50 mg test a week, or a stanazolol pill a week, or (the following are unscheduled legal supplements) tongkat ali, fadogia agrestis, D-aspartic acid or tribulus?

There are drawbacks to using all of these things, that's why.

You dum dum.

I'm going to use roids as soon as I run the 100 meter dash in 10.4 seconds, but until then no can do

Light cycles of what exactly. And where the flying fuck would I even get it.

So it's like helping you be normally when you come off? Are Serms temporary or?

I'll be honest, I spent years trying to believe all the people who say not to use gear if you don't compete etc...

But I've been on test only blasting at 500mg when I feel like it, and cruising at 200mg the rest of the time.

I feel so much better in every aspect of life, and bloodwork has never come back with anything worrying yet.

Obviously adding other compounds increases the risk, but test alone is pretty harmless. The biggest risk of using test is the side effects you get when you stop using it. So I just don't stop :)

Oh and it costs less per month than any legal supps (protein powder etc)

shoo goblin shoo

I already have enough things to worry about without having to illegally acquire bottles of Amber oil on a monthly basis and lie about it to my friends, family, coworkers and authorities.

And fuck losing my testicle size and saying bye-bye to my natural libido if I ever have to go off.

And fuck sticking needles in my butt or shoulder once or twice a week.

I'll go on a cycle if I'm in the Arnold Classic

>I feel so much better in every aspect of life
Can you expand on this? Does exogenous test really make that much of a difference, because that'd be the main selling point for me

You old people and your reefer madness.

I'm in my twenties and am actually an athlete. I already have my fair share of problems, so I don't even drink coffee or potent sources of caffeine anymore, much less drink alcohol, use drugs or pin sterons.

where do you buy?

Firstly I will say that some of this may be placebo, but placebo works.
I am generally more confident socially and sexually. My dick is harder and my sex drive is a lot higher.
I dominate social interaction with the opposite sex, where I used to be more passive.
It's like it moved me from trying to impress women to feeling like they should be impressing me, and it works.

Obviously the physical changes feed right back into the confidence because I catch girls looking at my arms and chest all the time. Today while I was working (mailman) some random bitch in a car shouted "youd get it" at me. She was probably a skank but it still feels good.

Next of all, productivity, in the gym, at work and home life, is increased, I have more energy and sleep better, and obviously recover a lot faster.

Contrary to typical wisdom, I am a lot calmer and more level-headed on test, this I put down to the above, more energy and motivation etc.

I love it. But I will say, if you have a serious issue with social anxiety or depression, it won't cure it, but it will help put things in place that will.

Because I have finished college and actually smart not to believe the "truth about test" on monoglian image board from randon anons.

Because I am 29, healthy male who has been lifting for more than 11 years.

Because I have a fiancee(soon to be my wife) who already craves for my body.

Because I have a high paying stable job which I won't compromise.

Because I am not a druggie to pin myself.

Because I don't need drugs to "feel more better and allive", that's just excuse for low test betas.

Because I am not beta to take drugs to get desperately get confidence and looks for a better chance to score with ladies.

see

id say lower doses are ok at natty limit

because I am broke

because I dont know where to find the shit

because everyone online has a differing opinion on sources and all the contradicting info/opinions just makes me say fuck it

because im broke

because i dont have a juice guru to listen to

because im broke

helloofficer.com

I'm not broke where's the best place for non biased info on this?

One thing that would def get in my way is the girlfriend though. You know how normal people are about steroids.

are they really that illegal? Rick Piano talks openly about doing them all the time.

>I'm not broke where's the best place for non biased info on this?
steroid.com breaks each compound down.

as for sources, good fucking luck

>$100 for a year's worth of test
What the fuck, I had no idea that stuff was so cheap. I'm hopping on a cycle as soon as I finish dieting.

Depends which country.

I live about 15min drive from Rick Piano

you're a complete retard

a "long term low dose" is called testosterone replacement therapy and is something that is prescribed by real doctors to patients with low testosterone. there is more than enough studies on the subject

I live in LA but I have no idea who to talk to. I see a few people are my gym that are obviously on juice, I see Bradley Martyn every now and then but I don't think if I just asked them they'd tell me right?

Have you ever seen Dom?

except "low dose" in /fraud/ is like 3x higher than what doctors prescribe
TRT is the ultimate way for roiders to excuse their steroid abuse (scooby is the best example for this)

I don't think so, but it would be hard to recognize him without the bandana on. I also work out at 24hour fitness which seems like the least friendly gym as far as filming goes.

I see these two at my golds gym weekly. The juice is real at this gym

you work out at golds north hollywood?

it varies wildly depending on the doctor but 200-250mg/week is very much a real TRT dose. it doesn't put you above natural levels of testosterone

My Experience With Anabolic Steroids

youtube.com/watch?v=sgqAASWuwcA

I want to get on TRT so bad. I wish I had a doctor I could pay off to tweak my blood tests.

The only thing im worried about is hairloss, im 27 right now with very slight thinning in the front would 200mg week accelerate hairloss?

>Assuming that most men have low to average Test levels, a low dose is only going to put you at peak natty levels to a little bit over supra-physiological levels
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it shuts down your natural testosterone production, your 200mg a week isn't being added on top of your current test levels

what is this thread?

It does if you already produce mid to high range levels of test. I almost guarantee 200-250 mg will put an average man at the 99th percentile for testosterone, over or at 1000 ng/dl

It's different for everyone

see I hate this board so much

>i didnt gain weight
>its genetics

no you retard its you didnt eat enough

stupid idiot kid who didnt know what he was doing or researched enough

I thought the same thing.
>I tracked calories every day and never went over by a calorie

>doing steroids
>under-eating

please

Why is this fag cutting?
he has the same size as a natty who lifted for 1 year

youtube.com/watch?v=qkiBACvdSVQ

that video triggered me. "i'm on a mini-cut" nigger you dont even have muscle.

typical kid scared of "losing muh abs"

bulking and cutting require going all-in. going half-ass on a bulk is gonna result in half-ass gains

Find an " anti aging clinic" online, in your local paper, etc. It's like getting a Marijuana 'script

Guaranteed 10 years plus taken off your life. Stroke, atherosclerosis, etc. You be looking good while you alive tho.

>a low dose is only going to put you at peak natty levels to a little bit over supra-physiological levels.

This is exactly how the fake natties do it.

tctmed.com/side-effects-of-testosterone-replacement-therapy-trt/

having testosterone levels higher than 99% of all men isn't natural
you want testosterone-like results while claiming you are "natural" and without feeling guilty
why don't you have the balls to roid?
also good luck finding a doctor who risks his whole career for your personal issues

can someone post natty limit pics?

>TRT
>testosterone-like results

wat

...

why aim for mediocrity

100 mg a week can put your test levels in the top ~20% of natural levels

200 mg would put your levels way over natural and is sustainable indefinitely

There is nothing wrong with perma cruising on 100 or 200 mg both most likely put you above your natural levels

>tfw I am the 1%
does not feel good man

Great post actually!

Who actually takes steroids and don't get bloated? The only reasons why I quit steroids were:

I started to get gyno, my face was hugely bloated and ugly, I was getting ED

it's pointless because how you look in photos depends on angles, lighting, dehydration, pump etc
As a general guideline most people can look like dom mazzeti or omar isuf

Everybody reacts differently

>that body
>with that tiny dick

I would love to see grills faces when that smurf appears

yeah I fucked up
*steroid-results while claiming natty because you have test levels that 0,1% can get naturally

I don't want to leave humanity behind. Never said I wanted testosterone-like results.
I just want that little boost for inside and outside the gym as I feel I'm pretty low test naturally. I haven't been tested yet but I really want to. Speaking of, I can just go to like a Target clinic and get a blood test right? No questions asked?

The fake natties don't get bloated... but their stack is an insider mystery anyway

>steroid-results
>TRT

wut

>as I feel I'm pretty low test naturally.
you probably aren't. Stop comparing yourself to the top 1%
>Speaking of, I can just go to like a Target clinic and get a blood test right? No questions asked?
yes you can and you should but don't expect them to put you on TRT even if your test levels are a little bit low

I'm not saying I'm top 1% just saying I feel low in general. And I just want the numbers from Target. I realize it's super hard to get on TRT legally so I'd probably just buy illegally and stay on for life like the above poster was saying.
Thanks for response though

>falling for the marriage trap

Opinions discarded.

>I'm a broke ass nigga
>I barely tolerate taking non FDA certified supplements from stores, there's no way I'd be ok injecting shit from online into myself
>don't want to risk crashing my endocrine system
>don't like needles

Is dolph natty? He sure looks pretty natty in this pic.

no