Best fitness "advice" you've ever gotten?

Best fitness "advice" you've ever gotten?

SS + Accessories and a slow bulk.

Bench press alone is not enough for chest development.

He's not wrong in the pic. Thicker bar makes a harder deadlift.

lift weights

Thicker bar makes grip more difficult. Not having to worry about balance when deadlifting in a smith negates any extra difficulty a poor grip would create.

All else equal, sure, but not when the thicker bar is on greased rails.

Don't eat more than 30g of protein at a time or it will go to waste. I never got an answer regarding what "at a time" meant.

Smith literally doesn't make a difference. It's just there for safety.

Posts like this reinforce why I have no idea why I keep coming back to this board.

found the manlet

Stick with your plan whatever it is.

I'd sat every 2-3 hours?

>worry about balance
... jesus ...

Why the fuck are you going out of your way to argue with people who don't know what they're doing? This is the only possible result

Why don't you try telling me why you think I'm wrong instead of shitposting?

I'm 187cm.

Don't listen to anyone on Veeky Forums.

Being limited to the bar path of the smith machine completely changes the exercise. Unfortunately, there are no studies on EMG or muscle activation to shoot you down with, possibly because nobody in their right minds would deadlift with a smith machine

>no studies
So you admit that there is no scientific basis that says the smith is any less useful than free weights. Just walk away.

Knees should never go over toes during squats, or else you will "destroy" your knees
You get no extra gains by squatting to parallel or lower (as opposed to ~30° femurs)
High rep deadlifts/power cleans/power snatches for time are like totally so badass and manly and the best excercises ever
If you don't take BCAAs together with your whey, you will literally shit all the protein out, BCAAs help you utilise the protein
If you eat 2 hours before bed it will all turn to fat

Eating less calories than your body can utilize will result in weight loss.

Lifting heavy things will make you stronger.

Burden of proof is on you, you were the one that made the claim originally

Think of all the stabilising muscles you aren't using when the smith machine is keeping the bar in one dimensional plane.

>a lot of people are going to try and sell you some shit that you don't need or that doesn't work

>It's your job to be educated enough to know if it's crap

There is no scientific basis since there is no study done on this very obscure thing. Anyone who lifts can tell you that they can lift heavier on a smith machine than with free weights, so yes, you're wrong. If you'd ever lifted anything other than your fat ass off your couch you could find out for yourself.

You proved it for me. You said there were no studies that showed a difference.

>stabilizing muscles
These get worked in daily life if you participate in athletics and aren't a sedentary NEET like most of this board.

You think free weights and machines are on the same level?

It's not even that. The path of the smith machine dictates a specific pull that does not even closely resemble the pull that a conventional deadlift does. This different body position means a completely different activation of all musculature. It's just like a sumo versus a conventional: different pull position, same musculature but different activation. For that guy to say that there is no difference between a conventional and a smith machine is just retarded

Lift + Eat.

Personal trainer saw me power cleaning yesterday and advised me to use more arm pull . . .

>random anecdotal evidence that you assume to be widespread proves that I'm wrong
Wew lad.

Did not say that. There are no studies where people have used the smith machine for deadlifts. Huge difference

implying 187cm isnt manlet
when will they learn bros

Come on son, now you're just shitposting.

Either complete retard or baiting.

Come on sempai, find something better to do with your time.

Go do your compounds with a free barbells. Then go do those same lifts on a smith machine. Which ones do you think will be higher?

>resorts to calling me names because he can't formulate a coherent response
About what I expected.

I've used both and there is no difference because my form is correct. If you really need the track of the smith machine to keep you in line for correct form then you're lifting too heavy and should deload to work on form.

i don't understand you cunts arguing about shit like this...just train, this is the whole i lift more than you ego bullshit grow up niggas

kill yourself for being this stupid.
seriously

wow this is bullshit.

Impressive response, bitchtits.

There is a huge difference in the force applied to lifting smith machine vs free barbell. Regardless of how good your form is. Anyone who's lifted for a few years + can tell you this. The longer you defend the smith machine as equal to free weights the dumber you look senpai.

Post stats and body if you're so confident senpai.

You're entitled to your opinion, but calling me dumb doesn't change your lack of evidence.

You first, cuck. You're clearly good enough to call people out.

Complete bullshit

No, you go first you cuck.

fuck off you dumb dyel cum guzzling smith machine using faggot

You're going to convince some retard on here that smith machine is the same as freeweight. Veeky Forums is already filled with gullible idiots doing stupid shit senpai.

listen to your body
carb backloading
skipping breakfast
ketogenic diet

> come back from gym
> some random user is discussing if smith machine diddies and sqwats are equal to free weight

never change fit

#REKT #SHOTS FIRED
Now you post your smith machine sculpted body faggot

Pic is me a few days ago. Division 1 track athlete.

Fuck off fag you post yours first DYEL cuck whiteboy.

Hnnnggg post rear glute spread no homo

You look worse/weaker than both of them.
How are you division 1 anything if you can't even grasp the concept of the difference between a free bar path and a smith machine?

Division one doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot unfortunately. Just because a school has division one athletes doesn't mean they're strong/actually good athletes.

Because this is an anonymous Tibetan sheep herding symposium and he's lying.

I can guarantee that I'm weaker than them. We train for different things.

>cuck
>whiteboy

Where do you think you are? Back to

>get BTFO
>h-he must be lying! he can't possibly look better than me!
Top lol.

a lack of proof does not prove the inverse true. check your logic, cuck

Than why are you so fiercely debating stength training methods for a smith machine? Makes no sense m8

I'm not debating strength training, just training effectiveness. I never meant to say a thing about strength training.

pls post more

That was me though and I'm guessing the general consensus is that I do look better than him.

Don't get me wrong Veeky Forums is all about people bullshitting/baiting but at least try to keep an advice thread clear of something that's clearly terrible advice.

kid has been fooled into thinking that using the smith machine and barbells are the same thing by university trainer shills. my uni tried to do the same thing. they do this by regulation to reduce injuries, not because they're equivalent in performance.
>effectiveness
>strength
where is the difference here? if you're training for "effectiveness" and not strength (or aesthetics), wtf are you training for?

>dropping the trip to shitpost
own up to the funposting fampai

>where is the difference here? if you're training for "effectiveness" and not strength (or aesthetics), wtf are you training for?
ffs not even that dude but you've clearly never played a finesse sport in your life

>i play a fitness sport! Smith machine is clearly more effective.
How?

if you're playing a sport you should be doing the lift that properly trains balance as well as strength, or your "effectiveness" as you put it. end of story. have fun never placing 1st in your imaginary sport that you don't compete in

how the fuck would I know I'm not playing the sport faggot.

kys faggot you're replying to the wrong person

>samefagging to whiteknight yourself
nobody else on this forum is dumb enough to agree with you, nice try tho

Not him but i did many fitness sports (Boxing bjj wrestling and taekwondo)
Free weights transfer way better into athleticism than machines. Have fun being the one weirdo deadlifting in the smith machine because its more "effective" lmao

how does making one post defending someone make me a samefag whiteknight?

Well actually I squat 15kg less on Smith than I do with free weights.

I honestly just do what my coaches tell me. I get all of my knowledge from them.

Well since the b8 has died down abit,

Anyway, ACSM certified pt here.

There is literally no difference between training effectiveness between smith machine and free weight.

That being said, we learnt that the reason why you don't do power lifts on a smith machine is that the path of the bar makes it so that injuries are more likely to occur than on a free bar.

Squat, your footing has to be awkwardly placed in front of you so that you can rest on your heels. If not, more pressure is placed on the toes and the ball.

OHP, you hyper extend your posterior rotator cuffs and posterior rotator cuffs and your spine muscles along the neck.

Deadlift, hyper extension of the lower back muscles and tendency to roll the shoulders.

benchpress, rotator cuffs again.

There's nothing wrong with effectiveness, it's just that the form required contorts the muscles

Should clarify.

Because your footing on a squat in the smith machine is awkward, dropping the bar is likely.

Except on the smith machine you cannot drop it backwards, which may cause the loaded bar to fall on your lower back.

Getting the type of body you want is 70% diet

Fuck you.

You miss the part where smith machine fags may kill themselves doing powerlifts in it?

Stop being a faggot. There's a huge difference.

What's the difference?

I see what youre trying to say but technically being able to properly and safely engage the muscles is considered more efficient since that will yield more effective and long lasting (because you're not injuring yourself) results.

So yes, there is something wrong with smith machine effectiveness.

Don't send niggers to /pol/

>acsm certified personal trainer
>meaning anything
kill yourself

Oh I was speaking more about low weights as in less than 1 plate.

Higher than that, yes there is a significant difference but lower than that no.

It appears that you lack the muscle to 2pl8 anything. So anything you say is not valid.

Oh look, honey, a NEET.

Drink coffee before lifting

>If you eat 2 hours before bed it will all turn to fat

But isn't that the fastest way to gain weight if you're struggling like me? I find eating right before bed helps me put on weight.

What the fuck, why even bother posting all that then. I know 90% of Veeky Forums is DYEL; but shit senpai.

don't egolift

>90% of Veeky Forums is DYEL

Kind of answered your own question there.

Cardio kills gains.

this fucking guy

this is technically true though, high volumes of cardiovascular training combined with high volumes of strength training attenuates strength development. You can find plenty of research on the topic from various journals like the journal of strength and conditioning research.

> ACSM certified pt
>meaning jack shit

never fucking reply to me or my wife's son ever again

Why not? Did your wife drop him on his head when he was a baby?