What's the secret to getting big shoulders?

Not even true.

Broad shoulders and slender waist is 100% trainable

Hip size doesn't even matter, just do stomach vacuums

T. Former scrawny shoulder dyel

OHP.

steroids bb

Post pics and bloods you GODDAMNED faggot

this

train lats and dont train obliques for waist

train delts and back for broad shoulders

upper back and delt work, genetics and flexing for photos

Yeah I'm sick of hearing all this Frame shit. Nigga thats what lifting DOES. It changes your fucking FRAME thats why we putting in this work bitch

Lifting OP. Lift first and deal with that problem when you come to it.

The Press

Press the weight above ya head if u wanna get these hoes in bed

training your shoulders

Good genetics and ohp. Go get your ohp to 2pl8 and you'll have good shoulders

this mates. natty shoulders will look disappointing no matter what

SURE, maybe lifting changes your FRAME. But does it help your FACE, or your HEIGHT? Or does it help your DICK SIZE? Most important think, it doesn't help your BANK ACCOUNT. See? CHAD has all these things so he can EAT PIZZA with your ONEITIS, while you put in HOURS just to change your FRAME.

At the end of the day CHAD will always have SUPERIOR ALPHA GENETICS while you will be a BETA BITCH.

Shut the fuck up.

Kinobody's delts are no bigger than ernest cadine's

He chose that pic because his delts looks amazing, but that is 99% angle and liting.
We know this because even at the same time period, no other pics did his delts come close to looking that insane.

The man has amazing delts, but he is natch

Not true, most people neglect rear delts or think they can develop good shoulders ONLY by doing heavy sets of OHP. You need some volume and or frequency with shoulders.

If that's you. Your arms are way out of proportion to your front and side delts.

I honestly cant tell what is ironic memeposting and what is genuine /r9k/ faggotry anymore.

I have two boyfriends and eat pizza all the time.
Do i win?
Can you leave now?

It is called doing pull ups and rows, faggot

I'm afraid this is true.

Wide shoulders small waist is literally bone structure.

Garbage genetics people can try to mitigate it a bit with training and roids, but you're still bound by your inferior skeletal system.

Holy shit that's the most unproportionate arm i've seen

What is angle? Come back when you've graduated from planet fitness

Waist size has nothing to do with bones.

Do more stomach vacuums.

Side lateral raise 100% broadens shoulders.

You cant change hip size, but that matters very little if you get your v-taper

Not him but your arms are deffo overdeveloped

Pump/lighting/angle. I can post another picture and my arms look nothing like this one. I knew Veeky Forums was full of retards but I didn't know there were this many. Look at Greggs photo that was posted here. His arms look different in half of his pictures.

Meh. Before

Stomach vacuums make your waist smaller on a side view, not front view dumbshit.

>m-muh rich pianninin

he's got lovehandles now thanks to his permabulk and has to inject shoulders even harder to compensate for it

After. Natural.

>women shoulders
you are fucked senpai

Yes on a front view.

Your internal obliques.

Go to a mirror right now.
Do a vacuum.
The sides will cinch in.

Your tva is for the front, your internal obliques are for the side.

Vacuums 10000% make a difference.
If you don't understand this, you are vacuuming wrong

Curl bro detected

Underrated

Post you, fatty

2/10

holy shit guy you really need to start doing thing s besides bench and curling. you just look strange senpai and im not trying to be a dick

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show us a pic from a different angle you dont look that bad

This is a woman right. There's no way a man shoulders and traps look like that naturally. I think I see a hint of boobs too.

You didn't have to say you were natty, it's blatantly obvious

Dat gyno though

Have a mom and dad with big shoulders.

Shurgs, take two plates and lift up fast, but lower them slowly (2-3 secs). Then single trap shrugs on the smith machine (lift more than the plates you started with). Then while still at the smith machine, do behind back shrugs, so the bar is under your butt and then shrug up. btw all reps you need to lift up fast and let down slow.

Hope this helps

>World Masturbation Champion 2016

>how to get big shoulders without steroids
>is on steroids
Also
>Heavy OHP
Wow, mind blown, who would've thought about that?

Who gives a fuck what Chad does?

Shitty form on bench press, I would know

99% of this board is a failed chad

Looks so much better before,

So? Who cares how much effort chad puts in? It doesn't help to think about it and make yourself feel worse.

If you work hard and put good effort into the things you do, that should be enough for you

Only answer

Wew lad.

from my experience

>strong shoulder rotators before everything, I do them often, no more shoulder pain

>(deep) wide dips , go deep(er) only when you become flexible enough or enjoy your fucked up shoulder
>wide bench
>lateral raise (plenty of it)
>front raise with a plate, full ROM
>inverted row or face pulls
>OHP for triceps :^)

your collarbone might start to hurt if you exaggerate, then you know it's time to give it some rest

be male, for starters.

How do you gais do lateral raises? I recently started to do them with a slight forward lean and full rom.

Fucking hell...

Is this Veeky Forums or Sluthate?

Obviously if you have wide clavicles you're at an advantage but that doesn't mean you can't increase your shoulder size through training.

heavy OHP low reps, high rep seated DB press, lots of lat raises, lots of rear lat raises, BTN press, facepulls and train shoulders AT LEAST twice a week, other accessories too if you want but those are the main ones

if you want big shoulders as a natty volume is key

qt clavicles

what lifts did you do to develop the douchey look? Because that's pretty impressive, starting out at a pretty high level of douchiness, and somehow exponentially increasing it.

bonus points for that smug fucking face in the after photo, damn.. it just .. i want to punch you.

>face

Grow a stupid beard and get an undercut while both are still fashionable.

>frame

Hit your shoulders, traps, and lats. Just look respectable in a shirt. Most chads would be considered dyel.

>dick size

Unless you're under 5 inches, you don't have anything to really worry about. Learn to fuck longer or get gud at foreplay.

>Bank account

Work harder or stop going after materialistic cunts. Find some hippie qt that doesn't care. You'll have less competition because their usual type is scrawny and gross.

You're out of excuses.

My feelings summed up

CHAD can't tell if your post is IRONIC or not because he dropped PIZZA on his screen while you are SURE whether it was sarcasm or NOT

>Natural

Whoa nelly

This looks like the things they do for commercials where it's the same day they just change the lighting/filters/posture so the "after" looks like gainz

This. Why did the vacuum/tiny midsection thing die out. Pros would look twice as good if they still did that

Post ti- i mean pecs. Also glutes. Nohomo.

FRAME

PIZZA

Swimmig or it could just be a modeling effect where big shoulders lend to swimming instead of shoulder responding better to endured low intensity activity.

Make your shoulders, entire upper and lower body way bigger.

That should fix your proportions.