Is it a meme?

just cut down, don't cut it out. ~3 times every 2 weeks is a solid number. I've lost a lot of the desire to do it ever since I started talking to a couple girls.

>Don't do no fap, kids
Well your story sure didn't convince me to stop.

It's called thinking things that aren't really true, you're completely perceiving it like that, placebo effect

>Do nofap
>everything is the same as before but I'm just more horny
It's bullshit and all in your head

It's not. Having sex is healthy, masturbating is not.

So it comes down to the state of mind?

Both releases my semen

The only way to be your best self all the time is to just never masturbate or have sex. Orgasm and ejaculation fuck you up in subtle ways that science can't explain (has to do with auras and chakras), but damn near every man can admit that there is this maladaptive "post orgasmic slump" that often manifests as disgust or regret, and lowers you overall mood and energy., leaving you at a lower level of physical, mental and social functioning. The only way to live without this sensation is to be celibate.

There are good reasons why both the Abrahamic religions and Eastern spirituality scriptures tell you never to ejaculate unless its for procreation.
>but muh edging
This is probably what fucked me up the most and caused pain in the dick muscles and feeling like I have to pee all the time, finally leading me to successfully stop fapping altogether.

I dropped down to once a week for about 4 months, didn't see any positives, couldn't fuck my girl raw more than 30 sec without cumming. Went back to once a day, can pound for 10 min raw again

Makes sense I guess.

I think that's why Athletes often don't masturbate before a big game.

Lol this pussy claiming celibacy
>hasn't even cut his dick off yet

it definitely reduces my social anxiety and depression and gives me an overall energy boost. I don't see a point to it unless you have those things.

But the core of my problem is that I have addictive personality due to shitty childhood and emotional neglect. So when I get addicted to something like porn it entirely consumes me.

but I pee from there

Doesn't happen when you bang your wife tho

Gtfo of here with this chakras naruto bullshit. There is no such fucking thing get emmited you twat

It does happen whenever you ejaculate. That aspect feels just as shitty after sex but you notice it less because of the skin contact. Hence why I would advocate just cuddling in your underwear and doing tantric breathing rituals/orgasmic meditation instead of fucking

just because science can't prove it doesn't mean its not real

materialists raus

seriously just do a simple cost benefit analysis.

claimed gains
feel better, look better, act better, fuck better, lift better, think better.

worst possible losses
minimal forearm losses, can you think of anything else?

Just do it and see. You'd think we were asking you do to hard drugs.

Fapping is fine, just cut out porn if you're having troubles

>You'd think we were asking you do to hard drugs.
The mind of the addict is a curious thing.

Bump

it's meme if you only fap once or twice a week

if you jack off several times a day it is definitely not a meme

it's a meme

So is jacking it actually healthy or not? Can we get some sources in here?

Personal experience:
It's great in the beginning (placebo most likely), but your libido is basically nonexistent afterwards. Don't fall for the nofap jew.

I disagree, I don't get that regret/disgust post fap feeling.
Probably because I wasn't raised to feel ashamed about my urges. Are all Americans like this?

>Today it was because a cute chick looked at me when I was coming out of the gym.. On Wednesday I had a wet dream because some girl at the gym asked me to spot her on squats.
t. 13 year old

This is so true. I've been running NoFap and drinking Bulletproof Coffee with Bulletproof BrainOctane and I can really feel my Chakras expanding. I take cold showers in the morning and I can feel my aura expanding and my testosterone doubling. I am simply a superior being to my fellow men.

If you still masturbate, then you're just inferior, simple as that.

>just because science can't prove it doesn't mean its not real

Kill yourself.

no fap is 100% just a meme

no porn is much better

probably the most retarded (and cruel, actually) piece of broscience i've ever witnessed yeah

I can literally feel my aura expanding when I do NoFap.

Just because you're a fucking failure who has a libido (science can't prove its bad but a libido is a bad thing to have) doesn't mean us NoFappers are in the wrong.

I'm not addicted to fapping, I quit whenever, I just don't want to.

you don't have to watch porn to fap. like, if it were no-porn, it would still be kinda dumb but understandable in that the objective is to train your imagination.

i've watched porn maybe a couple times in my life, tbqh. i prefer to have control over my imagination. hasn't failed me on 2-5 nuts per fap sesh in like a year.

>tfw gravity isn't real because science can't fully explain it yet

If I don't fap for a week I feel like my social skills are through the roof, and a combination of this with being super horny and having no standards anymore usually get me laid. But then I come way quicker as I would have if I had fapped the day prior.

How do you deal with this?

Other negatives of not fapping:

Higher chance of developing prostate cancer (harvardprostateknowledge.org/does-frequent-ejaculation-help-ward-off-prostate-cancer)

Loss of libido and erectile function (reported by many on Veeky Forums, and many on other sites -- some claim this is a flatline period, yet I've seen some report that this has lasted over 2 years)

You'll become arrogant and delusional and act as if you're a superior person because you haven't had a wank

It's still observable

Nice goalpost movement

give me one piece of empirical evidence that ejaculation damages the chakras

In my experience, noporn is better. After a while of nofap it seems like your libido just plummets, but noporn plus fapping once or twice a week is bretty gud.

It's not a magic bullet that will make you a pussy magnet, but you have more time in your day to improve yourself, plus you dont have the release of cumming all the time so you feel more up to chasing girls. The feeling of energy reported by some I haven't experienced, but more that I feel less complacent with my current situation, and feel up to doing something about it.

>You'll become arrogant and delusional and act as if you're a superior person because you haven't had a wank
This is in no way a negative.

It is, you just don't realise it in your little jizz-free bubble.

develop strong kegel muscles by doing mula bandha on and off, and holding it for a few minutes at a time.

It helps with my acne

speak to your doctor about your low testosterone

Why?

Wanking is useful for high test males who have too much sex drive. No fap is for low energy betas

I'm not going to because that's not the opinion I have.

But your reasoning for only even considering things that have already been proven and researched, is narrow minded and boring.

but it is because as soon as you DO wank, your self-esteem will plummet or at the very least be threatened enough to be really disturbing.

sooner or later, you'll associate this false sense of accomplishment with not only masturbation, but sex, and your sex life will be fucking terrible or just... non-existent.

it is hilarious to me that abstaining from masturbation can possibly make anybody feel as though they are BETTER. but i mean, it's in the same family of BS sex-shaming that women have been dealing with, so shit, go ahead. karma's the only bitch you'll ever fuck.

you are like a little baby

The "fapping reduces prostate cancer" meme is likely a reverse correlation, that men with healthy prostate masturbate and have sex more than those developing prostate cancer. Like most cancers its caused by they typical American diet and sedentary lifestyle.

I am enjoying this long flatline period- where the only time I can ever get a boner is when i have morning wood and when I talk to women in real life

It increases social confidence, so I can see how some would go full douche mode.

woah man that's really convincing

insulting me has really ignited my aura and shown me the one true way

>tbqh
>sesh

Leave.

Quitting fapping stopped my stutter, which increased my confidence.

Results differ for each person

Depends if you have worse fapping or porn addiction, or equally bad. The flatline is part of the healing process, and I like it compared to the super horniness I used to experience when quitting fapping for over a week.

Read the study before dismissing it as a meme:

Two relatively large studies of this question, reported in 2003 and 2004, yielded good news for sexually active men: high ejaculation frequency seemed to protect against prostate cancer.

As part of Harvard’s Health Professionals Follow-up Study, 29,342 men between the ages of 46 and 81 reported their average number of ejaculations per month in young adulthood (ages 20–29), in mid-life (ages 40–49), and in the most recent year. Ejaculations included sexual intercourse, nocturnal emissions, and masturbation. Study participants also provided comprehensive health and lifestyle data every two years from 1992 to 2000. The scientists found that men who ejaculated 21 or more times a month enjoyed a 33% lower risk of prostate cancer compared with men who reported four to seven ejaculations a month throughout their lifetimes.

An Australian study of 2,338 men came to a similar conclusion. In all, men who averaged 4.6 to seven ejaculations a week were 36% less likely to be diagnosed with prostate cancer before the age of 70 than men who ejaculated less than 2.3 times a week on average. The study found no connection between prostate cancer and the number of sex partners. (An earlier study, however, found that men who had sex with 30 or more women were two to three times more likely to develop prostate cancer than men with only one partner.)

Further study is needed to investigate possible protective mechanisms. In theory, emptying the prostate of potentially irritating or harmful substances might be one such mechanism. Regardless of the reason why, take comfort in the fact that ejaculation is not only pleasurable, but also may convey health benefits.

Don't see how the confidence gained from being disciplined and taking steps to self-improvement can in any way be harmful.

I think it's useful to tell someone about a shitty attitude they have, sometimes it makes them think and be less obnoxious in real life

another reverse correlation here: High test males are more vulnerable to extreme masturbation an porn addiction. Low energy betas would be more addicted to playing video games

I never mentioned increased confidence as a negative.

Do you fap without porn at all?

I usually fap to just images of naked girls. Nothing extremely kinky. Should I just use my imagination only?

Effectively, /b/ is my porn site. I occasionally use /gif/

And I think that you're a pretentious fool who wants to rim his ego by acting the teacher

Feeling like a superior person (which mastering your libido does make you) was listed as a negative.

I did not say "feeling like a superior person" as a negative.

Please, learn to read.

>You'll become arrogant and delusional and act as if you're a superior person because you haven't had a wank
?

I, and many others would say that mastering your own body in this fashion, is indeed a feat and does make you superior to most.

its not a meme, long term fapping is a pretty bad thing. I have been on no fap for 2 weeks now, and I am getting dreams of girls again. Dreams with clarity. Beyond that I think that there is some placebo effect. But what I do notice is that I have more energy. I feel less tired now. As if my average energy levels have been raised a bit.

But I also have been on aromatose inhibitores and taurine. So I am not sure which is helping what.

Also I noticed that my body odor has completely changed. More manly.

So I can carefully say that most likely no fap is the natural way for a man to live upon.

Also my gains were increased. I was stalling on a certain weight, but I managed to outdo the sets now. My food is the same, everything else is the same except for the increase of testosterone.

So it most likely fucking works.

feeling like a superior person does not equate to acting like one with delusions and arrogance

besides that point, your silly behaviour is just proving my previous point.

Why shouldn't you act as confident as you feel? Do you adopt false modesty to gain the approval of others? That's not for me.

To add to that: I have been thinking about what constitutes a "good day", with that I mean getting attention from everyone. Being social, feeling like everything is going well.

and I think it can be narrowed down to testosterone. I think that I mostly had good days when I didnt wank for a while. When my body was in such a good alignment that it just felt right.

You know these days when you wake up, you can feel it in your bones. But these things are not somekind of psyops cognition, they are directly related to your wellness of your body.

People always will encounter bad things, but your mind, if it is more whole, will deal with them better. Less stress, less cortisol.

My frequency of good days has increased now I think. It is of course hard to tell, since our cognition of ourselves, and the mechanism for own our cognition, are one and the same. Humans are incapable of proper introspection.

It would appear you've gained one of the side effects of NoFap: Arrogance and Delusion.

I mean please, your anecdotal claims, which may not have even been directly caused by abstinence by your own admission, are no evidence for NoFap's effectiveness.

Because a NoFapper's arrogance is built upon laughable foundations. They are like little men proud of their sandcastles.

You have no mastery over the body -- refraining from touching yourself is no great feat of discipline and endurance, yet you delude yourself with the idea that it is a somewhat commendable endeavour.

>good days are when I get attention from everyone

you are like a little baby

Sure it is, why are so many of you scientistics so intent on denying the power of sex?

>sure it is

Oh okay then nevermind

No, there are clear symptoms. Like the smell. Over the many years of my life, my smell hasnt changed that much after my teenage years. It fucking works.

and I also yawn a lot less, because I feel less tired, with the same amount of sleep.

Plus the gains that I made with weight lifting, right fucking after I started taking this regime. I have been stuck on them for weeks.

these are subtle hints to me of a larger picture that it may be indeed working.

other people notice it when a person has more test in their system, its subtle behaviors.

What AIs are you taking?

ha ha

you are like a little baby

>36% less likely by the age of 70.

This seems insignificant to me because most men get diagnosed with prostate cancer by the time they hit their 80's. An enlarged prostate is noticeable and commonly seen in most men by their 50's - 60's, regardless of how often they masturbate.

If I even make it to my 80's, I'm not gonna give a shit if I have prostate cancer because by that time I'll probably have a myriad of other problems which could kill me faster, like heart failure.

Keep fapping, though.

Either way it doesn't belong on Veeky Forums. Redirect them to /r9k/ or /adv/ and report the thread.

you are taking Taurine and Aromatase Inhibitors

you cannot put the cause of your claims soley on not fapping

you are like a big talking ass

>abstaining from a perfectly normal, natural, healthy impulse

>discipline and self-improvement

it's... twisted.

How to block Xenoestrogens and rid estrogen dominance

Adopt a regiment of aromatase inhibitors

Note: Aromatase is the enzyme in your body that produces estrogen by taking estrogenuous compounds and turning it into estrogen:

Immediately ingest sources of indole 3 carbinol and DIM. You can obtain these from cruciferous vegetables or jewgle indole 3 carbinol for supplements that contain it. Too lazy?

lifeextension.com/vitamins-supplements/item01468/triple-action-cruciferous-vegetable-extract#panelSupplements

Read the ingredients list and plan on basing that around your next grocery shopping. Or just find that somewhere, buy it, or order it. There are other safe and natural forms of aromatase inhibition. Look them up at your own convenience.

Fun fact: Nicotine is a powerful aromatase inhibitor. It's also a stimulant. This is why the jews had the prototypical feminist adopt smoking and then soon after tried banning it. Smoking anything is bad but finding good safe nicotine sources is easy. Nasal snuff (no menthol), organic-nicotine vaping (without propolyne glycol and only organic vegetable glycerin added), and nicotine gum (depends on the brand) is safe.

Purge excess estrogens

Calcium D-glucarate. This one is harder to get in foods but you can jewgle that for food sources. If you don't mind pills and tablets, find it in supplement form.

Begin building testosterone

Zinc and vitamin d3 a re your friends. They're essential. Zinc is heavily present in meats. Vitamin d3 comes from sunlight. Draw your own conclusions from there. Because you have blocked aromatase, your body will not convert testosterone (at least not heavily) into estrogen like it normally would. You will begin replacing that much needed testosterone and shed curves, weight, and so on.

I would say I am comparable to a SAS soldier or Spartan in terms of my discipline due to nofapping. I fucking laugh at inferior humans like you who still masturbate.

maybe if it were such a problem that it caused problems in your life? i mean, if you were a porn addict/compulsive masturbator and miserable i can see how getting that under control would be uplifting... but otherwise, it's fucking weird.

U mad?

I did no fap in the past as well, but back then I didnt have the change of body odor, so yea. I dont know exactly if its only just the no fap to be honest.

for study purposes it would have been more pure to only change the aromatase things.

But that doesnt mean that no fap doesnt work. It may well contribute heavily on the averages.

i dunno man, it causes a grand total of 0 problems in my life. helps relieve boredom sometimes, it's fun, and it feels good. i'm.. um... happy for you and your spartan-like discipline, tho? lmao

>4.6 to seven ejaculations a week

How do you have .6 of an ejaculation? lol that's dumb

You are the one who is like a little baby

Masturbation is a perfectly normal. natural, healthy impulse, but doing it multiple times a day to ever increasingly stranger and more extreme pornography is not.

please tell me you're trolling

ha . baby
ha . are
you
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a litte

so then nofap only should apply to compulsive masturbators/addicts.

does that srsly apply to the majority of you guys? i mean i guess i would believe it but damn