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What kinda sub should I get brehs?

black one

Finally decided I'm going to jump on the fraud wagon after months of research and deliberation

The only concern I had was jumping on too early, but my diet and training are spot on and i have a good enough base to build from now.

Plus I'm willing to accept a life of needles.

>black one
Is that supposed to be some kind of cock joke?
Currently I am torn between Italian or just roast beef with swiss.

One that knows how to beg but is still a little feisty

Or a cold cut with meatballs add

My ex texted me at 3 in the am to state that she wished things stayed simple?

That is not even text worthy and things are simple you doofus. Things are always simple: I want, you don't. Simple.

I started cruising though. I feel angrier cruising than I did on tren.

Oh a sandwich, i thought you meant submissive.

Eh meatball with italian bread n stuff

>reply

Dont worry, you're pretty simple. It wont change.

and put your fucking trip back on, asshole

>One that knows how to beg but is still a little feisty
Wanna audition for the part?
>Or a cold cut with meatballs add
Add meatballs with the sauce and everything or just meatballs?
>I feel angrier cruising than I did on tren.
Check your estrogen levels

>Oh a sandwich, i thought you meant submissive.
>black one
As if I would ever dirty my glorious average white cock in some nigger pussy.

Upped AI.
Jerrbears duh I'm a Fucking idiot. You want an award user?

>Upped AI.
So you are on less test and more AI? That sounds retarded. Your e2 is probably at 0 which is why you are so emotional and irritable.

In my First Cycle i Never want to go back

Plebs. The true answer here is smoked salmon with plenty of lettuce and some pine kernels and capers.

Also, if you like it, honey mustard dressing.

Obviously add rucola.

I had no idea nonmemefags wore shirts like that.

No I cruise at 300 test. I had been at 150 before my shoot.

>Jerrbears duh I'm a Fucking idiot. You want an award user?
I wasnt calling you an idiot, i was telling you to call her one.

Now you do

See? Told you. I am mostly irritable that a text woke me at 3 am.

Looking slightly juicy breh
>Plebs. The true answer here is smoked salmon with plenty of lettuce and some pine kernels and capers.
>Also, if you like it, honey mustard dressing.
>Obviously add rucola.
Where can I try this crazy sandwich?>No I cruise at 300 test. I had been at 150 before my shoot.
You blast with tren and 150 test and then go up in test to a 300 cruise? Why?
Anyway just go get bloods and check your e2.

I normally never drop test that low. Mostly to zap water. I might check e2 or I could just munch more Adex.

Before and now

Lol what you running?

500mg Test e

dyel

>Using AI on a cruise
that's your problem right there pleb

you still havent gotten close to your natty potential senpai

does reaching your natty limit really matter? don't you just get there quicker?

>you still havent gotten close to your natty potential senpai
he didn't mention anything about his natty limit

Why roid when you basically still have your noob gains?
If you unmotivated natty you gonna be unmotivated enhanced

>wanna audition for the part
How much does it pay? I'm a class A actress

&if you want the sauce
I wouldn't

But bacon too if bulking

Salmon is for onto of rice not between bread we're gonna fued over this intoxicated I tell you whot

Well you might waste some time/money/resources or fuck your shit up if you don't know what you're doing diet/training wise but eh I'm not against people using them from the get go I did way back when

>Why roid when you basically still have your noob gains?
faster noob gains

After reading the last thread I realised how lucky I am that I never tried drugs cause I got a serious steroid addiction problem.

What once started as a 250mg e5d test developed into a full blown 1g test 500mg tren 30mg dbol IPA+mod blast and already considering upping the tren and adding deca.

I would od on heroin in probably less than 6month from now if I.start smoking.


On another note, 100-200deca per week is more than enough for tendons support right?

How old are you and how long have you been training?

Yeah, why not add hgh or mk 677 if you can't afford hgh

Brehs.

Everywhere on the internet and over here, i see guys using 23g(blue ones) for glute shots. I normally use 21g(green ones) for the glutes. I asked my gf to take a 23g from her school for comparison(see pic)

Those 23g(blue ones) are fucking tiny. How the fuck do your inject ass with those little fuckers, without injecting subcutaneously?

...
Gauge is the width
There's different lengths...


Also stop being a fatty, fatty

I use yellow to draw and blue to inject and the needle lengths are the same

the green one looks scary

Depends where you pin on the ass

i use 21 g 40 mm (green ones) for drawing and 25 g 25 mm (orange ones) for pinning
glutes, vg, quads all work with 25 mm 25 g

Honestly? No one I get my roids from in EU has that stuff. Since it's legal in USA but illegal in EU it's kinda fucked up to source it

hes already taking mod grf and ipamorelin so id say hes fine even without mk 677

I said yeah sounds fine, you could probably go with 300 and be fine though

Mk 677 is easily obtainable in Europe

I'm Danish, literally harshest customs in eu

>tfw not bf says there's a hot jap chick at booster juice you should convince to have a 3sum but you don't got yellow fever so you start questioning his taste

Can we have a pic of your gf again so ik what I'm competing with for dat jaw

oh i see kek. My ass is pretty thick indeed. I'am seeing subtle veins on my abs again, so i think i'am 11-12%

I never had any problem with the green ones, but i'am scared those blue ones are to tiny to reach my glute muscle

i pin right above in the glute area

Are they 5/8 or an inch
Inch i can stick p much wherever on my ass and hit the muscle
5/8 is too short unless delts or quads

21 and training for 2 years

>crazy

I make them weekly, and I can get them at plenty of places.

>rice

I'm not a chink.

There's long and short 23g.

I pin quads and Delts with 27g, but Delts is short and quads is long.

I have thick veins on my abs but I'm over 12 according to you all.

What's your routine and how many times a week do you hit the gym, fraudsters?

i just recently got oblique veins now that you mention it
looks p freaky
dont think im 10% yet tho, still lots of fat on legs and stomach

the green ones that i always use for glutes are;

0,8 x 40 mm, 21G x 1 1/2

blue ones are; 0,6 x 30 mm, 23G x 1 1/4

If you show a pic from you, i also show a pic from her

Not over here. It's all different length and girth kek

because you make pic with shitty lightning

Give me her number

Nothing wrong with a quality subq pin

are you serious?
Are you fucking serious?

Holy fuck you look absolutely shit despite having 5x the test levels of mine.

/fraud/ never change, complete failures apart from a few exceptions

I'm as pale as a vampire. I should get a tan. Haven't been out in the sun for over 15m in almost 6 months.

>tfw nocturnal.

What's a good starting dose for Adex while I'm running 150mg test e 450mg tren e

Persona Q. Yay or nay?

What etrian odyssey is best? Atlus sale atm.

Make your own routine, you should know what works for you on roids, and Ed

Don't listen to the haters you're both leaner and bigger than me

0mg

tan would make you more shredded and maybe a little big bigger.

but vein-wise it's no difference.

Although.. the heat will blow up your veins.

Best formule for veins;

1.carb cycle till 9% bf
2. drink green thea
3.on your carbday lay in the sun for 30 min
4. Watch your veins explode like crazy

>Cut out creatine this week.
>Go out drinking last night, just had three tallboys but felt bretty good.
>Piss like 6 times

When I got home I was shredded as fuck. Looked rediculous. Booze is god tier for cutting water. Still dont like that Im down 5lbs in bodyweight, but Im trying to remind myself its just water...

How can I cut water like that without killing my gains?

Dandelion root

Shit nigga I got that in my front yard

Fuck off I love a thicc slutty Asian

Just got this shit right here, do you think SS is better than PPL to put on mass?

I never got very into eo
So I skipped persona q too

Dancing all night?

Can someone help? Been doing psmf for a week, getting 0 carbs a day. I felt fine for the first 5 days or so, but today and yesterday I feel like complete shit and can barely move. I don't feel hungry, it's just I feel extremely unwell. I'm not supplementing with anything.

Any suggestions

You're supposed to get like 20g of carbs a day or something do your research faggot

i thought it was keep fat + carbs under 20g combined, and my chicken has 1g of fat per serving so I am just not eating carbs.

If you like rhythm games

Def need multivitamins n shit

I would suggest taking supplements like a fat burner with caffeine. That will give you a little boost. I use hydroxycut from muscletech.

And your body needs a time to adjust to this new diet of course. That can take 1,5-2 weeks imo

do you eat veggies?

>>do you eat veggies?
only thing i eat all day is grilled chicken

I dunno about psfm. I always carb cycle.

Eating broccoli, chicken, almonds and eggs ed. And 1 in the week i add carb with each meal. Really god-tier diet

brocolli is really negligible, carb-wise.

lyle mcdicks doesnt say anything about that in his book tho

you should be supplementing with
fish oil
multivitamin
vegetables (lots)

Amphetamines.

As long as you feel your ready and have done the proper research on how to use them then go for it, I started a little after I turned 19 but at that point I've been training for about 5yrs and researched the topic for about a year

yeah I feel I'm ready, my enthusiasm for the gym has made me able to justify the possibly hasty decision to abuse steroids. knowledge wise I know I'm ready and my training is consistently progressive.

what stage are you at now after starting at 19? any regrets?

Lol you should have waited 3 years before juicing.

Now you're going to hit a plateau sooner and you won't have anywhere to go from there.

Oh no, he reaches his max sooner.

>Now you're going to hit a plateau sooner and you won't have anywhere to go from there.
can you explain this more in detail

see

Solid explanation
10/10
Would read again

What's the issue with reaching your maximum natural limit quicker? Once you're there you're there no matter how you get there, right?

Well I just started my second cycle and I'm almost 20 so I haven't noticed anything yet but with my 1st cycle all I did was 500mg of test-e a week for 10 weeks so no I haven't seen any side effects from that cycle but if you feel your ready and you feel your ready to be consistent with your diet and workouts then go for it just be smart about it

holisticmd.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ProteinSparingModifiedFast.pdf

How can you people start an extreme diet such as PSMF with no clue wtf you are doing?
>the same people who take DNP

i dont know who wrote that pdf but it clearly says 12 g of carbs, and those are just trace carbs

has anyone messed with ph's before running real gear? i took halodrol/h-drol when i was younger and became a walking boner for the first 3 weeks. gained 17lbs and kept 10lb. after a couple cycles of just test e im thinking of doing an h-drol test e cycle. i was thinking of buying tbol but hdrol is just so much cheaper. has anyone fucked with a ph/test cycle?

Steroids always have the greatest effect the first few times you do them.

By reaching your natty limit or at least closer to it, when you squeeze out your noob gains and when you've adapted to the type of training you have then you'll be able to juice and get even bigger before you need more and more steroids to elicit the same effects.

Gudhegdh. Tren and teenage girls wearing yoga pants and tight halter tops is a weird combination. It's gonna be a long summer.

Actually the opposite is true.
You have to be over 18 to post here.

if you call halodrol a "prohormone" then yeah ive done sdrol while on test so i guess that counts as a ph/test cycle

You must be new here

i dont know wether to call it a designer steroid or a ph.

>Steroids always have the greatest effect the first few times you do them.

Citation needed.

If anything it's the opposite. Using gear once something something more receptors. But as you get bigger you need more gear. Like you need more kcal once you get bigger.

well since its a steroid id call it a steroid

Designer steroid

Imo, it's that if you already had a solid base before you started, you know how to diet and train poperly. If you use that knowledge you build up during your natty years, you will have a big advantage from this when you will use gear.

Seriously, everyone who did this, looks fucking huge on gear.

Most people just inject stuff and hope for the best, because muhh magic