Conventional or Sumo DL?

Bullshit. Sumo is ridiculously easy as long as you have decent hip mobility.
You're acting like every first-time lifter can do conventional without any problems.

yeah that's why most people in meets lift sumo-style right?

Double overhand conventional crew checking in

>double overhand

How much do you deadlift?

the average sumofags at the gym

1025

conventional builds better muscle

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I pull conventional but sumo isn't really easier. It shortens RoM at the cost of making it harder to break off the ground.

>That
>Sumo
That's just a squat with the bar in her hands. Anyone can do stupid shit with 40 kgs on the bar, her deadlift would look different if she put on 80-90% of her max on the bar.

>Bullshit. Sumo is ridiculously easy as long as you have decent hip mobility.
How much do you pull sumo and how much do you pull conventional?

>You're acting like every first-time lifter can do conventional without any problems.
No, I didn't.

Conv is for weakies who can't do sumo

Sumo is a tool for short-armed stubby pawahliftas who cry because their deadlift isn't proportionally as good as their bench and squat. So they use it to inflate their numbers.

Compare sumo pullers physiques to conventionals and you will see their proportions are all weird, while conventional pullers, even if they are a bit fat, still look aesthetic and well proportioned.

195kg conventional
I hardly ever do sumo, but most I lifted with it was 180 for a single

>short-armed

So you pull about 90% as much sumo as you do conventional but it's still "ridicously easy"?

>dat rom
I'd have to pull further on a fucking 18" deadlift
More power to him though, as long as it gets the numbers.

Conventional deadlift is the better lift for displaying overall strength, imo, as its much less technique dependent.

As for training, that depends entirely on what you're trying to accomplish.

It evens out in the bench. At Europeans he benched 227,5 and pulled 360, and in equipped lifting that's a very poor bench for a 105 kg lifter.

I don't ever do sumo and I can pull 4pl8 so yeah it's fucking easy

He's got the Coan build, bastard offspring of an orang-utan and a postal box. Whatever form he used his ROM would be fucking short because the little shit can scratch his knees without bending.

It's the equivalent of arcing your back as high as you can to reduce your ROM on bench and ego lift more weight.

>It's fucking easy but I lift less
Topkek, you crybaby. People don't give a shit if you sumo or conv, it's only your autism that is triggered, because we pull more than you, weakfag.
t. 235kg sumo puller

conventional if you're an alpha, and sumo if you're a women or a faggot

I like how you're assuming it was hard it was not, I struggle on conventional while sumo was literally a hip thrust forward. Like I said sumo are easy

Why have I never seen a female do conventional deadlifts? They're always doing sumo.

I actually find conventional easier, sumo hurts my hips.

>Sub-200kg deadlifter talking about how easy it is
Out of my face

>I don't ever do sumo and I can pull 4pl8 so yeah it's fucking easy
Shouldn't you be able to pull actually impressive weights if it's easy?

Female hip structure tends to be much friendlier to wide stances than male is, so you see a lot more women squatting wide and pulling sumo in powerlifting. They also tend to be shorter on average, which correlates with being better built for sumo in terms of limb/torso proportions.

I can't even get into the start position for proper sumo without jamming bone on bone. My hips just aren't built for wide anything.

conventional is the bitch to get off the ground, sumo is harder to lock out

its why I do sumo

sumo = lower chance of back problem

Because I prefer conventional I only did sumo once just to try it out so why should I give a shit? I did 4pl8 easy no struggle, go have your average sumo lifter and tell them to do a conventional 4pl8 they wouldn't even be able to budge that.

if that helps you sleep better at night , so be it princess

Did you not read the part where I said I hardly ever do it? I've been doing conventional for almost 3 years and I only pull 15kgs more than with sumo which I've never directly trained. Bet your ass that I could get it to shoot up way over 200kgs if I replaced my conv deadlifts with them, but I wont, because I'm not a faggot.

>4pl8 is easy
Uh yeah? All your lifts are easy...

>go have your average sumo lifter and tell them to do a conventional 4pl8 they wouldn't even be able to budge that.
>hurr I'm a retard
Most people who deadlift with any style can't pull 405

neger I used to pull both and I found sumo much easier on the back which is backed by articles

If you're struggling to lock out your sumo, something is going seriously wrong off the ground.

True, but it doesn't mean it's easier to break the bar off the ground with it.
If you're pulling conventionally with good form then it's easier to break it off the ground because you're in a mechanically better position. That's why you hardly ever see sumo lifts fail at the top, it's almost always at the bottom

There are 2 dudes in my gym who have been doing sumo deadlifts for a while now. I saw them pull 165kg for a set of 5, and then they said "let's give normal deadlifts a try"

They couldn't even lift that weight for a single with conventional style.

Stop trying to make a case for why sumo is just as hard as conventional, when you know you're full of shit.

Their hips are not strong enough need to go do the hip abductor machine more

Back when I could conv 190kgx5, I'd struggle with 140x1 sumo. It's simply a matter of technique

>muh momentum
doesnt matter anyway because im grip limited and thats what always gives out on top
weird I did only pull conventional when I started and I absolutely hated them so I skipped them until I found out sumo, maybe theyre worth a revisit

Probably because they don't know how to do it. Properly pulling conventionally will be counter-intuitive for someone used to sumo. If sumo is easier why do the people with the biggest deadlifts hardly ever do it?

Yeah okay buddy, sumofags always gotta make shit up to justify their easy ass fuck lift.

If doing a variation of the deadlift makes it harder to lift heavy weights, why do people insist on using it instead of just pulling normally? Not in a general strength setting but powerlifting meets in particular. You think these people would be doing sumo if they could lift less weight with it than with conventional?

Sumo isn't really easier across the board, but whether or not its more efficient (assuming equal training) has a lot to do with proportions. The proportions that favour conventional - long limbs, short torso - are much more common in taller/heavier lifters than sumo-favouring proportions (and when they are found, they're usually in squat specialists).

Compare the builds of someone like Malanichev to that of Hall and you'll see what I mean.

You'll be using the exact same muscles.

It's all about practice. Sumo is better because it allows you to do it with less flexibility/mobility.

So I guess sumo is worse for people who don't want to train flexibility to make their bfs happy.

Some people are stronger with sumo, some are stronger with conventional. Not everyone is instantly stronger with sumo. Mindblowing, isn't it?

Sumo and conventional do not use the exact same muscles in the same amounts. There's overlap but also a lot of difference. Sumo also requires greater hip mobility than conventional.

Exactly my point
Sumo isn't easier. I pull conventional (really don't like sumo) but because I'm not an autist I won't claim a lift isn't legitimate just because of the way it's done.
Did it go from the floor to a lockout? If so, it's a good lift

its the opposite you fucking retard
why you give adcive if you dont know shit