I've just come across this article and it felt really wrong. What do you think about this?

>baby talking to my dogs
>not fucking bitches because proud of feminine shoulders

good god, stop. you're only making this worse for yourself.

Mine is 48 and I'm average height and DYEL. 41 must look hilariously small

Girls really don't care that much for size other than height. If you have defenitjin and a nice face so long as your not scrawny looking and you look healthy that's all they want. You don't need to be jacked or a big guy.

Reading this article, I think I should cut.

I'm 5'10 164lbs, lifting for 6months, just hit 1/2/3/4. My arms are 15inches cold, 16inches with a pump. broad shoulders, and I have a somewhat slim waist (32").

I'm sitting at 15% body fat, should I cut down to 7% body fat and look like sick cunt? Or will I look like shit? Also, does anyone have a pic of someone at 7-8% body fat, 150-155lbs 5'9-5'10?

What is paste bin?

You're small as fuck I would wait till next January or February to start a cut so you'll look beast by the summer. Not worth it rn

if you're fit, you're still in the top 5% of men these days

i don't think what specific kind of fit you are really matters

>I'm 5'10 164lbs, lifting for 6months
>broad shoulders

Why every little twink is convinced they have "broad shoulders" these days? Are your shoulders 60"? No? Then they aren't broad, fuck off.

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Do not cut you damn twink.
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60" shoulders? I'm aiming for a slightly jacked otter mode. I've attached a pic 3 month old pic, I've lost some definition from the weight gain, but I can do 1/2/3/4 for reps. 1/2/ for 10 reps.
Fuck man, I wanted to be shredded for summer. I guess I'll wait.

But does anyone have a pic of someone at 150-155lbs at 5'9-5'10?

>spot the fat ugly americans
160lbs 5'10 8% bf is ideal. Don't listen to these permabulking fat fucks. I bulked for 8 months and I regret it. Bulk for 5, cut for 1. Then maintain lean gains. Pic very related, it's what women want.

>inb4 lifting for girls
Fuck off, your the same as bitches that wear lowcut tops and yoga pants.

This guy is a natty BB, just got his pro card and as you can see is shredded to the bone. He's around low 150s here and he's 5'10". This is basically the natty limit for anyone at this BF.

Would you say height face and frame matter most?

As opposed to size? Yeah

the one on the left was before his cut, the one on the right is from the end of his cut for the year before.

>women want twinks

'no'

>this is the body of a person that benches 100kg for 10 reps

excuse my skepticism, but I find it unlikely, unless you have some really short arms or some sick arch that gives you 2cm rom

>5'10
>broad shoulders
relative to your manlet body size, sure. in absolute terms, 6'0+ bros will have broader shoulders

Thanks. I'll cut. 165lbs > 155lbs.
Normal arch, I think. Keep in mind that pic is 3 months old.

Not him, but if it's an all out effort, I can see 2plate for 10.

i don't know if i have body dismorphia but that's dyel as fuck

100kg isn't that much for someone who has been through puberty

>Thanks. I'll cut. 165lbs > 155lbs.
Don't do this, you will look like a complete stick

That would put his max at around 130kg. Pretty neat for an under 75kg guy training for just 6 months.

intredasting

That's nothing, I'm under 60kg and I bench 140kg after training for 5 months.

>over 2x bw bench
Impressive

In 5 months training?!?

Sounds like estat

Am I supposed to be impressed? I bench 145kg at 55kg after training for 3 months.

There's barely any difference between Jacked and Strong. Who writes this shit?

This
i do indeed prefer the mid fit to strong other than really jacked but that's personal preference, there's a lot of women into big muscles

140kg in 5 months? I don't know....

>not benching 180kg after 2 months

genetic dead ends OUT

>Sounds like estat
Yeah, exactly. It's so hard to believe and that's what makes it impressive.

Bitch, I benched 195kg after a month of lifting.

I have the same height-weight as you being 20 y-old and more shredded and I feel small.

Tl;dr you're either lying about your height and/or you should pic releated (its an actual movie)

Lol I remember when I used to have a 2" ROM too

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This is common sense..

Girls like swimmers / otter mode. Takes hardly any work at all to be the ideal body.

If you thought getting big muscles would make you get girls I'm literally lmao @ your life. Chicks hate meat heads. Fucking virgins lmao.

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it's a good thing we have this thread every day

>Girls like swimmers
I swam for 3 different teams in high school.

The only person who had a gf on any of those teams was the black kid who could barely swim, no joke. He was also the most muscular.

If you were lean and semi muscular, you could fuck the sluts though.

Let me save everyone some time:

>Attractiveness is a multifaceted quality that is strongly subjective in a lot of ways

>NO, WOMEN LIKE (insert body type that the poster has or is aspiring to have)!

Over and over again.

>what is reading comprehension

agreed

mine were 51 at 6'0 before i even started lifting and i never considered them particularly broad

>155 lbs
>1pl8 for 10 reps strict OHP
>those shoulders

'no'

it would be impressive if it wasn't obvious bait

I see these claims every now and again where girls like this and girls like that
Then i get to thinking im considered attractive according to the internet but IRL im having the worst of luck with finding girls
So i wonder if there is any truth to this or if its just bullshit being force fed to us by media to sell advertisement or some crap like that

That's a three month old pic, ffs. Learn to read you fucking twat.

swimmer body not actual swimmers you fucking sperg. and im talking about college not highschool.

Post a pic of your body. It might just be your autismo famalam

>delusional bulkfag

>Swimmers don't have swimmer bodies

>real life interaction is the same as someone saying youre attractive from a picture on the computer screen

obviously you have autism so its no surprise you arent getting laid.

Yeah you stupid twat. Do you know how much extra muscle you can get in 3 months? LOADS

You don't make that much gainz in 3 months you prick. You will not look that much bigger now.

>i have autism

do you think people that are ottermode are actually otters?
fucking idiot.

I dont have a picture and my phone is busted up so i cant take new ones, really pisses me off because i wanted to record my progress but thats not happening.

Anyway, im not autistic but i dont approach any girls either and to be fair its because i rarely find one i think is worth pursuring/approaching but if i got an attractive body type things should work out diffrently
I dont really fucking know at this point

>as a natty your shoulders will grow significantly in size over 3 months

That's why it's called ottermode and not straight up otter you retard.

>not understanding what I meant

What I mean is that attractiveness is mostly subjective, and that there are multiple things that go into "attractiveness" and multiple things can be found attractive at the same time.

However, if you say this on Veeky Forums, everyone gets butthurt, and goes one a crusade to prove to the internet that they bodytype they have, or the one they are trying to achieve, is the only one that is considered attractive.

>women want ottermode
>No, women want a """"real man™""" who is bearmode
>No, women like dad bods
>No, women like skellys

On and on until /pol/ inevitably derails it and changes the subject to race

listen you fucks this is clearing some shit up here

>swimmer's body = ectomorph-ish type by default with gains from swimming
>swimmer's body = subjective = john cena could start only swimming, after a few years his gains will be adjusted from swimming, for swimming. this is subjective.
>what girls are attracted to in terms of looks is completely subjective

>On and on until /pol/ inevitably derails it and changes the subject to race
Women like niggers

Insecure women and sluts like niggers

so, Women like niggers

No. Insecure women and sluts like niggers

Ive actually found that the best girls around here are only attracted to middle eastern guys but lets not make this into a race debate

why is it that everyone's body type has to be the one that females are attracted to the most? because you are walking proof in certain circumstances? probably because you own the body type you are trying to market and you are the one who focuses on it the most. so when we want to get a point across we have to do it in first person and we end up generalizing in order to associate our thoughts and experiences with other people's thoughts and experiences, or even what may unfold.

when female pic threads pop up there is no argument that all men on here are attracted to all types and builds of women, and we prove this using what we believe are rational reasons and arguments. take this system and reverse it and there you go, women like all types of men in terms of physical attraction.

if we look at this system, then proceed to look at ourselves in this system, we can step out of it instead of allowing ourselves to jump into it even more. because once we do that, we are announcing more information about ourselves than we are about the actual system which is fucking us. just relax and do what the fuck YOU need to do for yourself to get gains.

No. Not unless its your first 3 months ..

I heard that women like liberally progressive arab/black/hispanic transgender men who currently practice the religion of islam, believe in evolution, support bernie sanders, and are illegally residing in the country they live in.

kek

>164lbs
>lifting for 6 months
>1/2/3/4
Just kill me now. Why do i even try?

FOR TEN REPS

GENETIC DEAD ENDS

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>tfw you are 6,2" and 180lb, have exactly 53"/33" shoulder/waist, 15" biceps and 24" thighs, ~12% bodyfat, a strong jawline and masculine and aesthetics face traits, good posture AND a nice ass
>tfw you're stuck in this shithole of a board because some bitch wrecked your confidence three years ago

at least I don't post in tfwnogf threads

>tfw lean muscular but have big ribs so I look sorta big

Feels good

this. i'm also way beyond the jacked one and used to be way before the fit one before working out. got hit on since 14 onward. the thing is this little pic looks like the character has been lifting for only a year which throws me off.

what also throws me of is "fit" here implies not being fit for something, but the word represents a regular sedative look for a young man?

and how can you be "strong" but not fit for an activity, or jacked for that matter? i would notice no difference between the first two.

and jacked is not jacked. i'd say that's ripped with the need to hit the legs at a higher intensity.

>very attractive
>very very attractive
>attractive
so wait a minute, this was about you the whole time?

>lifting for 6 months
>164lbs 15%bf
>just hit 1/2/3/4

thats some next level e-statting

The numbers stand for plates,not pounds you cuck.Kill yourself immediately

>lifting for 6 months
>should i cut to 7 or bulk

what's up with that vein?

Looked miles better before the cut.

lol these faggots needed to lift weights to get to 200kg bench press

fuck off

Either you guys don't know how to lift or your routines are shit. If you don't hit 1/2/3/4pl8 by 6 months your genetics are shit and you should kys.

Learn to progressively overload, lift at least 5xweek, and maintain a decent diet. I'm sure most of you only do one of the above, even if you half assed all three you would have good results.

Hitting 2pl8 bench and 1pl8 ohp is easy. But then again most of you, are cucks. So no point explaining.

why did you respond to me? are you seriously suggesting that you will see large visual changes in your delts from 3 months of lifting as a natty?

Hitting 1/2/3/4 for 10 reps at 164 lbs in 6 months.

low quality bait j p e g

not op, but this is my 3 month progress. The first pic is actually half way through my first month. In both pics I have a pump. Diet, routine, and consistency make all the difference. A friend started lifting during the same time as me, he's been dirty bulking, has a shit routine, and has barely made quarter of the progress I've mad.

I'm starting my sixth month tomorrow. I can do 1pl8 OHP and 2pl8 Bench for 3 reps. I should get to 10 reps by the end of the month. I don't understand why people think this is some unbelievable task.

>I should get to 10 reps by the end of the month.

No you won't. You don't realize how big of a difference there is between 3 and 10

Probably, still worth trying. Half the fun of lifting is pushing yourself

Not even bw though

>natty limit

probably not, but ok.

>3 reps to 10 by the end of the month

enjoy being disappointed then

>enjoy being disappointed then
He can hit 10 reps, that's not hard. Assuming he hits chest twice a week and he adds 2 reps every week, he should hit 10 reps.