Why are woman so oblivious as to what they really want?

Not in the mood for shitposting user

>Then why choose something they can't have, over something they can have but in the process miss out on things they long for from someone else?
Because they are brought up with the "I'm a princess" mindset

Shouldnt have said fight me then
Anyway, I think women dont know what they want because they change it constantly.

It's just outright dumb to take the easy way out, but continue to mourne about what you could have had

Do they?

Ofc they do, tons of guys get swapped out because the girl went from liking one thing to liking another
its not as cold as that and its usually diguised in words like "we´ve grown apart, i need to find mysef" or something like that

Then why can't they be happy with what the have

I dont know, but i can guess
Easy access to new guys and illusions about those guys makes it tempting
I mean today a girl can get a new bf within hours after a breakup so there is no risk for her to change her mind about the guy she is seeing

Not a world i want to live in desu

Feel free to leave at any point, you know where the door is

Its just how women are wired and you will never really understand it so don't try to just accept it

Still makes me shake my head about the choices they make and regret them in the end, yet stick to what they chose because it's easier

>regret them in the end
Oh you sweet summer child, girls dont reget things because there are no consequenses to em

It's actually quite simple:

What their head wants: A nice guy who treats them like a princess and reads their every wish from their eyes.

What their "bodies" want/what they sexually desire: A bad boy who doesn't give two fucks, someone who they actually have to "fight" for because they fear on losing out to other women.

In most cases those two images don't match, they actually want a bad boy who treats them and only them like a princess.

This one girl i've talked to does though, voices her regrets through wording, yet says she made the right choice in the end and that's been going on for months and months now

>In most cases those two images don't match, they actually want a bad boy who treats them and only them like a princess.
has society gone too far?

>What is sympathy fishing

What's up with the whole "i want muh bad boy who lifts " mentality, when in reality they also want a gentleman?

Women are incapable of possessing a rational mind. They are driven by emotion.

Huh?

While I agree that it has become more complicated to 'get' a good girl I dont't think it's impossible or as hard as Veeky Forums believes.

even those rational thoughts are driven by emotiones and are not rational at all if you think about it

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Well we all know what part of the female that is never used.
And what type of dude is left out.

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That's not entirely true
you can act in spite of your emotions, if you know that logically there is a better course of action

if you act like you're thinking it's a rational choice, yet know that there's something else out there that might be better, it's not rational
you're just settling for lower than you could

I wouldnt say that, ive been looking for a year and so far no signs of a girl yet
If she is "good" she is most likely already taken, if she is single and good its because she wants to be single

Its not impossible, no but its pretty close to it in difficulty.
Guys are in a shitty position atm

>Guys are in a shitty position atm
id even go as far as saying dating was easier 10 years ago

what the hell are you talking about?

you FEEL like you want to stuff your fat face with burgers, but you KNOW that's not what you should do.

if you like it, go for it

>Not knowing this and being some of both, changing on a whim
It's like you guys don't even girls

>Why are woman so oblivious as to what they really want?

They want what other woman want and are highly influenced by peer opinion/going with the flow. Becoming outcast/social pariah is their worst nightmare hence the risk averse, conforming, herd behavior ie. if a particular girl likes a guy but her friends don't, she will usually change her mind because "he's not good enough for her", "you can find better", "you cant be seen with him" etc.
For the same reason women like taken men, especially if his girl is attractive with logic being "is he's good enough for her, he's good enough for me".

In general, if she doesn't perceive you to be attractive to other women chances are that you're not going to win her over, no matter how much you lift/play instruments/know/whatever.

so you have to literally have had pretty gfs in the past so other girls acknowledge you?

>they want safety and stability

/thread

searching for that in your early 20s is bullshit though
live your life, don't settle for one girl/guy at that age

>so you have to literally have had pretty gfs in the past so other girls acknowledge you?

not him, but yes

I even used old pictures of me and girls I dont even fuck with anymore on fb for my new cunts, and they fall for it everytime. Getting jealous, imitating whatever pic I put up with their ugly bf/fb as its "obviously" competing with the pretty girl in my picture, to get me to hang out with them

It's annoying and it signals to me that shes a cunt you dont want to be around too long

>french person
>fight
pick one,
greetings from Germany.

christ almighty, those games are cancer to dating

I think the majority of the 'hopeless case' girls are in their 20's. Hell, I've got a general life course and in no way will I be ready to seriously date until I'm near 30. Same with these girls, most won't want to settle down till then so you're just asking to get left if you pursue a relationship. So in the meantime, fuck all the hot girls you can and enjoy not having to answer to anyone.

i said nothing about settling. op axed what they want, i gave an answer

Probably dont have to but it certainly helps. It is more about how you are perceived than how you really are.

again, settling in your 20s is dumb
well yeah, but safety and stability is something you work on throughout your life, not something you get from being with someone in an instan

>greetings from Germany.
germanfag here too
and can confirm that most woman i've met or had something with, just did not know what they wanted at all

one thing to note though

If girls being with you, makes other girls jealous, then you probably are attractive

Its just how the game works online, either do it, or don't get noticed/laid

>girls don't know what they want. Because of this I can't lift weights.

online dating is a whole nother level though

why do women like confidence? because it shows the man is sure about himself and his abilities regardless of the chaos going on around him. stability isn't necessarily financial, it can be emotional stability, and this is what they crave so bad.

if you're looking for emotional stability, you've got other problems

My advice comes from online+irl dating

I noticed girls I didn't know got jealous, as they would sub me in feed. and the the girls I did know irl went nuclear with jealousy, as they were the ones imitating my pics

using girls jealousy against them is a golden tactic. They are mindless, and will compete without thinking in such a case

how are you supposed to find a girl that doesn't give a fuck about that

They are not. They just won't tell you, for reasons.

Reason 1: You will accuse them of being whores or whatever.
Reason 2: They will actually feel bad about hurting your feelings.
Reason 3: If she makes it clear what she is willing to settle down for, she ruins her chances of ending up with something better out of luck.

>Reason 3: If she makes it clear what she is willing to settle down for, she ruins her chances of ending up with something better out of luck.
OP here, this reason seems like the most apropriate for my situation

you dont want a girl who doesnt think like that

personally, I can see the flaw, and the upside to how girls think

They want the best man for them.. Most of them are delusional, or don't even know what is "best" though.

Would you want a girl that is trash? If you could pick her I mean. Thats how these bitches feel

I have no advice to give you, as I'm still single myself. No one settles down, only fucks up and t b h you shouldnt look for something exclusive anymore

Just dip out once the bitch starts getting too nasty for you(noticing her fuckbuddy count is getting too high)

why is there so much debate over what women want? its pretty obvious they want RICH CHADS

seriously anyone who doesnt know this has the autismos

>Western world
>grows up with capitalism, which sadly breeds a society based on material compiling and narcissistic tendencies
>grows up watching "every little girl is a princess" movies. This shit is literally force fed to our female youth.
>Big data instagram, twitter, facebook, snapchat era.
>modern music glorifies the over sexualization of females as well as degrades them, which they totally love and accept.

This has been happening for centuries in human history, but today's age is just getting out of hand

P.S. The same thing can be said for man, with all of these macho movies and other forms of media where "if you ain't fuckkin 20 bitches at once, you gay nigga" Instead of man and women finding out their own personalities through experience and thought, its all given to us like drugs through media.

inb4 /pol/ or /r9k/, just a guy that's see certain shit

the truth sadly

Nice try jew

Stop telling people that capitalism is bad, its not, "consumerism" is, we should call out corporatism/lobbyism that is trying to monopolize

Women want everything.
At the same time.
Thats why they seem confused.

Consumerism is a natural evolution of capitalism. Firstly because branding and advertising. Secondly because of increased wealth

>natural
>branding and advertising

shalom please I know you hate Nature

*Shlomo autocorrects fucking me up

>increased wealth
Thats only on paper you faget. Rich getting richer, poor stays poor et cetera same ol' story... Plus ""wealth"" quantity is only rising/generated through loans from banks that hold the federal """"""""money"""""""" monopoly

>Becoming outcast/social pariah is their worst nightmare hence the risk averse, conforming, herd behavior ie. if a particular girl likes a guy but her friends don't, she will usually change her mind because "he's not good enough for her", "you can find better", "you cant be seen with him" etc.

this is so important
as a relatively unpopular dude in high school, i tried to date a very popular girl, and i found out later she did like me back ...but she thought her friends would make fun of her if they saw her dating an unpopular guy, and she was afraid of losing her cred

i know it's a teenage shitty story, but it proves the user's point

>i know it's a teenage shitty story, but it proves the user's point
Im not that user but id like to chime in here with 2 cents
Social status is important because like it has been said girls care alot about this but what counts for social status varies.
You dont "need" to be "girl approved" as in having other chicks fawn over you to get girls but you do need to have social status AND most importantly of all her friends approval
If her friends are against you and her dating chances are you wont date her, it could happen sure but its very unlikely.