Hey Veeky Forums, first time posting here. I have a question just out of curiosity. Would you rather have a swole body like the guys on the left or would you rather look like Zyzz?
If neither, post a picture of what your goal body is.
Zyzz is goal body.
Dude zyzz for sure
hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the leather club is two blocks down
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fuck you
fuck you, leatherman
seeiing as zyzz is your goal body, when do you plan on starting your first cycle?
no that is what this guy says in that picture/porn. It's a meme on /f/
He didn't come for the leather club, he came to challenge your ass to a wrasslin match.
Winner takes ass.
My friend, I visit Veeky Forums so often and I understand what you guys are talking about maybe 50% of the time. But I never want to ask what you mean because Ill just get called a newfag etc. I understand this IS Veeky Forums. WTF is a cycle?
mmmmm
I fucked him once back in Hungaria and he has the small dicks.
Athletic is my goal body
taking steroids for a short period of time a few times a year so you don't snap your shit up completely
a cycle of steroids
im not a roider so i dont know the specifics, but as i understand it when you roid you do it in cycles, ie. you take some for a time and then you take some time off them
it means using steroids
Nah I aint doing that shit. My uncle went fucking crazy using roids and Im not going down that road. Ive heard both sides of the argument that Zyzz was natty/he used roids but I like to believe that I can get there without them. But I do think I need to get a proper organised plan going for my lifting otherwise ima just get average gains.
not that guy, another fag here who's just started getting Veeky Forums
are steroids really that bad? how much do they increase gains by, and is it worth it?
being Veeky Forums means 2/3/4/5 @ 10%bf
the damage from steriods is permanent
The more you use the more gains the more side effects
not worth it, you can do it without it, brah
>are steroids really that bad
not really, the side effects are minimal if you stick with small doses
>how much do they increase gains by
incredible amounts, probably every one you think looks good is on roids
actors like zac effron, cris hemsworth, hugh jackman
is about the limit what you can achieve natty (though its hard to tell whether hes actually natty or not), would take at least 5 years of completely dedicated training natty, but you could get there in two years on roids
> and is it worth it
that's a question you have to answer for yourself. dont roid before you've been lifting for at least a year tho, and have the diet and routine down
>Zyzz was natty
zyzz was not natty, by his own admission
I refuse to believe I'll need to take roids to get my goal body or close to it. I've been training for about a month only for 2 hours a day with 40mins intense walking/running each time. I've lost a lot of weight and the main improvement I've seen is my arms are getting huge and defined. Yet to see abs tho because of tummy fat.
Oh I didn't know he admitted to that.
Side effects aside, in general steroids get a bad rap because normies think you'll get to become a 200 lb 6%body fat monster without lifting a finger.
Reality is it'll only increase you muscle mass by a small amount of you don't do any exercise. What it really does is speed up your muscle recovery. I'm only talking about natural testosterone roids ofcourse ; there are plenty of derivatives and combinations that have different effects that BBers can make use of.
depending on the amount of test you're using (and your own physiology) there can be some nasty side effects or almost none at all.
If you're a beginner, don't think consider roids till you've got at least 7 or more years of dedicated lifting under your belt. One of the big mistakes is for new lifters to hop on roids and go for ego lifts without giving their psyche /joints / ligaments time to grow.
ContinueWhether it's worth it or not really depends on your end-goal and if you have the knowledge and experience to maintain your sudden muscle growth after roiding.
I've seen plenty of people who would do 1 or 2 cycles and quit forever while some how maintains all the new muscles they've gained during the cycle, and I've also seen some who do a cycle; get fucking massive, but as soon as they end the cycle they shrink back down with a bunch of ugly acne and sides.
Basically, roid if you know what you're getting into and know what you're doing. Otherwise, stay clear of roids until there is more evidence based longitudinal study on its effects.
>2014+2
>not wanting to go full husbando
>At least 7 years
Fucking what sort of arbitrary number
Youre bei g pretty naive to be honest man. 99% of people that 'look fucking great' or 'look like they lift' are on AAS. Youll figure it out eventually. Sterioids arent evil, either. Even at superphysiological doses they dont have to fuck up your health to any noticeable extent. A lot lf it comes down to genetics and tolerance, like everything else.
>I can get there without them
Oh boy...
Just because you can't doesn't mean I won't be able to, friend.
If i were gay i would suck his dick
>2016+1-1
>going for anything but Bob Paris mode
reality will hit you hard eventually, don't worry my dyel friend
I know that without steroids you're looking at about 2lb/month muscle gain after the beginner gains. What can you expect on a low dose of steroids? What if you take steroids while you have your beginner gains?
5lbs per month on your first cycle of test and looking juicy as fuck all the time (i.e. Full muscle bellies)
Holy shit that's a ton.
Zyzz is apex aesthetics
fuck you
Something like this at 30-35yo.
Zyzz sure looks nice but he never was my goal for some reason, frames are too different.
zeez but my goal is zac
He really needs to stretch his pecs. That forward shoulder posture fucks his aesthetics
Some really pale guy with this light layer of fine black hair all over his body posted in a CBT yesterday, and between him and Frank Zane I can't decide which body I prefer.
I'm already pretty huge at 210lbs 15% 6'1" but I've never had a goal body before and I was just kind of inspired
thats just his genetics.. his pecs wont fill out in the center there
I'm aware but it appears he had upper cross syndrome. A good stretching routine combine with some posture exercises could really do a lot for his physique.
>frank yang. jpg
explosiveness and shit.
synthol vs roids.jpg
>if
OP Here again. What is synthol?
This.
Zyzz is swole though...
When I see a guy who has a body and posture of an ogre/gorilla, then I think SWOLE. Zyzz is ripped and his body probably feels like diamond.
pic of yourself?
>1 or 2 cycles and quit forever
I have always wondered, is there a benefit to doing it like that? Is it like getting a jump start and then keeping thing going, or does everything you gain vanish after you stop? The before/after of guys who were juiced to the gills is always pretty shocking.