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cut that dick off and be my weeb gf bby

I don't believe in gender essentialism so the idea of being a man on the inside born a woman is as stupid as being white on the inside but is black. It's all a social construct. I think they should do what they want with their bodies even if that means mutilating for what seems to be a genetalia fetishism

Yeah it isn't.
But I play with the cards I was dealt. And I've even gotten to 2x bw squat and am pretty close to 1.5x bw C&J :)

Nope, I'm non-op sorry

>seriously believing out of the billions of people on the planet there is not a man so feminine you wouldn't fuck or a woman so manly you wouldn't fuck.
It's called logic.
If a dyke looks like a dude and uses a dildo to fuck another girl, how is that any different than a man who looks entirely like her fucking the same woman?
If that sweet sweet boi pussy looks like a cute girls bootie in that skirt, how is that any different?

Both look like a females ass to me, that's what I get off on.

Anyone who says they are so black and white on homosexuality is just as retarded as the straights, they are just closet bisexuals.
If it looks pretty to you fuck it, that's all that matters.

why? if you wanted to be a trap you wouldn't do the horomone therapy, if you wanted to be a grill you should cut off the beenus. why sit halfway?

>If it looks pretty to you fuck it, that's all that matters.

But the only things i find pretty are other muscular dudes. That's how I'm gay.

Trappy if I went to Brazil could I fuck you? Pic related

What if there was a woman who looked like a muscular dude

>it's called logic

No, it's called faulty logic, false analogies, and conjecture

I like traps... and tricep and tibialis posterior exercises

ok fampai lemme break this down. I'm a straight male.

there is not a male in the world that I'm sexually attracted to. every dude has someone in common: a weiner and no vajayjay. this makes me instantly 100% not sexually attracted to them.

some people aren't at the far end of the sexuality spectrum, but a lot of people are so in conclusion you're a fucking autistic retard

I'd never hate you or make fun of you because of this choice, but it's obviously something from an ethical level we would just never agree on.
As far as i'm concerned, no matter how much a boy makes superficial changes to themselves to look more like a girl, they will always be a boy to me. I can still find you pretty and sexually desirable.
I've dated a post op ftm and a mtf (nonop) before, none of this is new.
I like effeminate things the sex matters little, when the ftm got done we had to go to being just friends, I wasn't into it at all.

>lying to yourself this much
Sure faggot, you're the kind of guy your friends show a picture of Korean girl, you say she's hot, and when they tell you to click to the next page she has a dick bigger than yours and you freak out.
You still thought the dude was hot and later on that night you jerk off crying yourself to sleep afterwords.

>anti-test
Why would you live life on hard mode?

I think it's pretty fucked up and feel guilty for masterbateing to it

My thoughts are:
I don't like you /pol/ stop trying to talk to me and get the fuck out of my board.

Only good in 2D desu

>somehow knowing someone has a dick is no longer enough to not be attracted to them

how the fuck can someone be this deluded? I can think you're gorgeous, but if I see that you have a dick, I am not longer attracted to you. Because you have a dick. Why is that somehow delusional?

This thread is shit.
who /mascgen/ here?

You're mentally ill. Anyone that requires drugs and surgery to be "themselves" is fucked in the head. This goes to people who roid and wiill get plastic surgery too

Makes sense to me tbqh

>t as retarded as the straights, they are just closet bisexuals.
>If it looks pretty to you fuck it, that's all that matters.
Omg same, I usualy dont watch porn a lot but i've been into watching shemales fuck girls a lot recently

Maybe he finds dick to be a turn off?
Did you ever consider that not everyone likes dick?

Trapper answer me you slut

Generally, I defend that people should be allowed to do whatever they want with their bodies.
You want to kill yourself? Go ahead. Want some crazy tattoos? Sure, do it. Use drugs? Go ahead (but don't use shit tier stuff, at least).
Want to roid? Do it. Want to take estrogen and cut off you dick and reinsert into yourself inside out? Why not?
I just think that we shouldn't try to interfere so much on each other's lives. So I just can't be against someone taking hormones and shit.

That said, I do think that HRT and especially SRS are terribly damaging and ineffective medical solutions overall. Some people say it is the best bet, and it might be since there is a very considerable number of people who transitioned successfully and lead great lives. But it's still a bad solution; it's a terribly damaging procedure that often does not solve the individual's issues, and it's often followed by detransition and/or suicide.
Maybe medical science develops something better in the future.

Also, transexuals can be fucking crazy, and the most stable ones tend to be perfectly passable and, thus, you won't ever notice them.

Right here senpai.

The beenus only makes it better desu

I mean, you can have your opinions and I don't mind. I was just mentioning it cause you are always being cute to me, so I thought you actually didn't know.

I'm not a "trap" or crossdresser, I'm a mtf girl.
My documents and ID say female, I have a girly voice and boobs, I take hormones, people refer to me as she, and I consider myself straight being attracted to men.

I'm not a sluuut ):
You'd have to take me on a date first.

You've never had a girl suck you off with her clothes still on?
That nigga could have a cock and you'd never know, you just nutted in a dudes mouth thinking it was a girl and yes there are men who are more feminine than actual females and better looking.
You missed my point entirely, there is always
>always
someone of the same sex that if you didn't know better you would sexually desire.
Sure when the pants come off you might not want to fuck them, but you thought about it before you knew the dick was there.
Same argument, reverse sex.
There are women out there so manly, but you wouldn't fuck her even though she has a vagina?
It's all about what looks hot, that's it.

Guess that applies to anybody who's ever had to take advantage of modern medicine for any reason. You fucking hippy idiot.

Of course I'd take you on a date, I'm a respectable man.

Tbqh you are looking more and more feminine with each pic, good job qt.

>I'm fine if you kill yourself but if you make your genitals look kinda weird to me I'll poop my pants and cry, like a lot.

that's a false analogy though

I wouldn't fuck feminine ladyboy traps because they have a dick

I wouldn't fuck butch powerlifting dykes because they're ugly

I find ugliness and penis possession to both be unattractive features that prevent me from being sexually attracted to someone.

LB and B represent sexual orientations

T represents a lifestyle choice as a result of gender dysphoria

T has nothing to do with LBG.

Thats like saying RDIS

Republican
Democrat
Independent
Schizophrenia

WTF this thread is on /pol/ are you going to every board and posting the same question fag ?

>mfw when I think about you hurting
I knew from a long time ago, I'm just letting my beliefs be known.
I respect mostly everyone in the world in what they wish to do or believe, but I still hold my own council. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I have the right to push said beliefs.
At the end of the night, whoever I shared a bed with would be more like a girl than a boy. That's the truth.

Everyone in this thread is trying to sound like a fucking philosopher while talking about weather or not they'd fuck a chick with a dick.

That's not what I said, but sure, believe whatever you want.
I do support transexual rights, especially for a streamlining in getting hormones and making medical resources more easily available. This does not change my professional opinion that the very treatments to make a sex change are still going to improve greatly in the next few decades, and that in a few years people will look back to what we have today and think how archaic we were.

I know it's hot isn't it

I can back this up. I am a completely straight male. Not that I'm uncomfortable around dudes, but there's just no arousal or attraction in any way. I also cannot judge a dudes attractiveness unless they are serious outliers and even then I'm just looking for features that women say are attractive. Ugly people are easy because they don't look male or female. Just... Ugly

It's redundant to have Democrat and schizophrenia on that list.

Keked at this hard

>What are your thoughts on this letter?
They have their own board here on Veeky Forums for discussing their issues, distinct to those of Veeky Forums. They should be happy they have a safe place for discussions, and keep those discussions out of other boards, for which they would be off-topic.

No woman ever looks dude enough unless they're a legit ftm tranny. And even then the lack of a dick is kind of a deal breaker.

It's a complete delusion, and it irks me greatly that they want to force the rest of us to humor their delusion with legislation instead of just trying to fix the delusion.

*nods respectfully towards you*

what legislation

fucking thank you

bullshit

fetish implies sexual arousal, that's not why any of them do what they do

>If it looks pretty to you fuck it, that's all that matters.
yeah but the thing is that some people genuinely don't find anyone of the same sex pretty enough to fuck, like this nigga

>there are """straight""" men who wouldn't fuck her

*same or opposite sex

also OP probably has an opinion but wants to make sure other people agree with him before he makes a final decision that he's correct

*tilts cowboy hat*

>mfw weebs from /r/anime try to convince me that I just HAVE to try fucking a fag dressing as a girl before I can decide whether hes hot or not

reddit.com/r/anime/comments/4qfvum/overlords_albedo_cossplay_by_qingqingziw/d4wrkn1?context=10000

Well, for starters, the whole part about letting them use the wrong bathroom.

If I had a daughter, I would be absolutely furious about being legally required to pretend to be "okay" with letting one of those freaks in there alone with her.

Putting aside the fact that you're definitely not a professional in any conceivable field...
Of course procedures will improve in the future. So what? That's how medicine works, my dude.
Does that mean that today's trans people should just wait for infinity time until the perfect medical intervention with absolutely zero side effects comes around? Because that will never happen. Real medicine is messy, and it never promises a 100% success rate. Only snake oil salesmen promise that they have the perfect treatments.

Tl;dr: Your entire "argument" is a non-sequitur.

perfectly fine for them to be in there with your son though

GBLT without the tomato? fuck that

Lol that doesnt compare at all you fucking idiot. If you can't see the difference of taking chemo for cancer vs taking hormones because you feel like the wrong gender in your fucked up suicidal head, you're a retard.

Just wanna offer the flip side and say I'm a gay dude who has literally never found a woman attractive. My idea of a woman's attractiveness was learned through what straight men like and general aesthetic principles and not based any form of sexual attraction. I can tell a chick is hot or beautiful, but there is no chick hot enough that I would consider actually fucking her.

This "everybody is bisexual" idea is just projection. If you acknowledge that a spectrum of sexuality exists then you have to acknowledge that there are people who genuinely fall on the extremes.

>Everyone is inherently bisexual, homosexuality isn't real.

I think this might be true for a lot of women, but not for men. Men know what they are. They are either straight, gay, or bi.

But I have heard a lot of women say things like "Well, I'm not bi, but there was this one time back in college..."

the issue is this: would you rather have a freak in there that looks like a man, or one that looks like a woman?

if it's the trans woman:
>there's no guarantee your daughter will know they were born male

if it's the trans man:
>you will have to explain to your daughter what transgender people are
>your daughter might panic
>might not even be a trans man--might be an actual man in the bathroom, now that he doesn't even have to pretend to be a trans woman to get in unquestioned

t. tumblr fag

>afterwords

>today's trans people should just wait for infinity time until the perfect medical intervention with absolutely zero side effects comes around?
I never said that.
If they want to transition, they should do it.
As I said in my first post:
> Want to take estrogen and cut off you dick and reinsert into yourself inside out? Why not?

You can cry and jerk off?
Gonna have to try that sometime.

Trappy if we fug do you expect a reach around? Are you gonna fuck me back? Do I need to jerk you off or touch your cock in any way? How big are you erect? Would you let a guy fug you if he had a smaller cock than you? Have you been with other men?

That's because it is socially acceptable for women to be bicurious/fool around with another woman

If two dudes did that they would immediately be marked as gay for life

Does anyone know how well traps age? Like if you're a smoking hot tranny at 25, what do you look like at 45? An average middle aged woman? Or does the constant high dose estrogen and t blockers make you age better or worse?

I have no issue with traps, but I don't think I could have sex face to face with a dude with a penis because I'm pretty sure I'd lean back and see that donger there and just grab it and pretend it was a manual gear shift and make car noises.

That being said I've done that to girls' boobs a couple of times too.

Maybe I just want to fuck a Honda or something.

what

... legislation proposals came from conservatives trying to ban the act

you probably lack life experience and literally hivemind your political knowledge from some shit like pol

Honda is a Japanese car manufacturer.

>this thread

>I'm pretty sure I'd lean back and see that donger there and just grab it and pretend it was a manual gear shift and make car noises.
kek

I'm essentially an expert on Trappy at this point so I'll answer for her.

>touch your cock in any way?
Nope, anal stimulation is enough.
>How big?
This one I'm not 100% positive on, but I think ~5.5 inches.
>smaller cock than you
Yes.
>been with other men
Yes, slept with at least 1, but maybe the numbers gone up recently.

I find it strangely superficial that the only way one can confirm and legitimize their inner feelings about their gender is to adhere to strict stereotypical aesthetic principles about what they perceive gender differences to be rather than affirming their identity independently.

Rather than accept their individual idiosyncrasies that vary outside the norms of their physical gender they see these traits as inherent flaws and seek to fix them by changing their outward appearance rather than their internal perspective. Because it's "wrong" or a boy to be feminine or "wrong" for a girl to be masculine, so possessing these traits means that their sex is wrong and needs to be corrected, not that they have an unhealthy worldview.

You'd be hard pressed to find cis men or women that adhere as tightly to culturally gendered ideas as transsexuals do, which is somewhat odd, and it makes me believe they place their locus of identity on an external idea rather than having it within themselves.

Stands for trappy-chan correct?

Honda is a japanese hooker that you ride around.

What if I just want to hold her hand?
for purely lewd purposes of course.

trappy is 16.5cm

>Trappy is .5 cm bigger than me
Help

>
Yes she loves hand holding and cuddling.

I'm in than, i'm world class super sensual hand holder and cuddle buddy.
Get over here and let me cuddle you user, it's not gay.

This is somewhat reflected in the debates between drag queens and transgendered people. While most outsiders would assume they would be allies, they're often pretty dramatically opposed. Mostly, transgendered people think gender is an important part of identity, while cross dressers think that gender is play and shouldn't be taken seriously.

t. Honda fucker

There are plenty of feminine boys and masculine girls that are not transgender.

>these are the mentally ill beings giving you lifting advice
>these kind of people is what the future beholds

Jesus christ you sick fucks need to kys yourselves

>Trappy is 0.78cm bigger than me
Help

That means I'm .28 bigger than you cutie. You're gonna be my trappy tonight

N-no pls. Are you going to bully my prostate?

there are also feminine trans men and masculine trans women that *choose* to be so

So what? Who fucking cares what people do with their lives.

this , I'm a bi too
my friend got a female to male transition and agrees with me about the "imaginary" genders

It isn't bullying if you get mindbroken into loving it user.

>people think like this
people like you are the ones that wont call police or help someone if he is being robbed/attacked/raped,because its "not my business"
you're the reason the US have reached this level of degeneracy and europe will soon follow suit.

>people like you are the ones that wont call police or help someone if he is being robbed/attacked/raped,because its "not my business"

Nice slippery slope