RAW milk

>decide to drink raw milk since pasteurizing milk damages its proteins and fat-soluble vitamins, plus it has enzymes which aid digestion and make it more tolerable
>go down to local farm, everything looks legit
>start doing GORMAD despite the exorbitant $8 price per gallon
>painful whiteheads all over my scalp I've had for years vanish within days
>cystic acne begins fading
>I'm finally gonna make it, I found the way
>PT day at police academy
>they run us for 4 hours, including 1 hour doing bear crawls and belly crawls through a sandbox at noon when it's 100 degrees
>get violently ill that night, figure it's heat exhaustion
>after a totally ruined 3 day weekend shitting my guts out and not getting any better realize it has to be a stomach virus
>realize it's from the milk and all the lobbying and propaganda from the Big Dairy industry might have been true

fuck me Veeky Forums, I was finally on my way out of Auschwitz. And the one food which perfectly addressed all my needs is full of foodborne illness. Any good alternatives? Maybe I need to start eating a dozen eggs a day.

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youtube.com/watch?v=mHYFOJBU434
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Why would you drink unpasteurized milk? You're actually an inept retard.

This

Raw milk is disgusting
Source: ex-pooinloo who had a cow

It actually tastes a lot better. It has a frothy and creamy taste. Pasteurized milk tastes like bleach to me now.

dude, i used to own a cow farm, and even thought i knew the cows were free of disease (sometimes the udder gets infected, but its easy to spot and avoid it) i still boiled the milk for a couple of minutes!

even whole milk from the store doesnt taste as good as the milk we produced, i guess its not the pasteurization but the homogenization that sort makes it taste different, sorta artificial

do you think slow boiling it at a lower temp would let it keep its nutritional profile while eliminating the bacteria?

put bleach in the milk. no heat and any microbes will die

Unpasteurized is asking for trouble. Try unhomogonised,its pretty nice hey, nice and think with the chunks.

>drink bleach
Plenty of people died from that shit in the past.
But TBQH... your immune system is still weak asf.

Hell I know whenever I travel I get sick just from drinking the local water and that shits already been treated.

Gold top milk FTW

you need to boil it just like water, and its best if you let it foam/boil, them simmer down a bit and repeat that a couple of times
as for the nutritional value i cant be sure about it, but if you are using raw cow milk it is normally very fat in content (sometimes you can even see tiny bubbles of fat floating in it)
slow boiling it would make it worse imho, you want to avoid cooking the milk and just bring it up to boiling temperature as fast as you can for a couple of times in 1 or 2 minutes timespan (dont use a microwave, use a stove top and keep looking at it, or the foam will be everywhere)
then just put it in the fridge, after it has cooled down a bit, for later consumption

thats what i did, and for close to 20 years it never made anyone sick in my household

Are you a fucking calf ?
Seriously what's up with human adults drinking baby cow fluid ?

If it makes you feel any better I probably have a good chance of dying from this, I've never been this sick in my life

Oh come on user it can't be that bad. Sounds to me like you're just milking it.

you should have asked the guy, selling you the milk, to drink a glass of it with you right there
and the real price should have been close to $2 ~ $3 a gallon, at least in europe
if you recover decide to repeat that, please boild the shit before drinking it and get the milk from a small farm that actually uses (part of) it for in-house consumption, not some huge automated cow milking shit pad
gl

turns out microbes in your tummy are really great and neccessary for health. Not all bacteria=bad. Sterile animals are litterally autistic (dont socialise and are anxious and shit). IMO its not the milk but the lactic acid bacteria that are overhauling your shit for the better

Good riddance...

OP, raw milk every now and then is fine. Just not quantities more than a sip or two every day. It's delicious, full of healthy whole fats, and some people with lactose intolerance sometimes process raw milk better than pasteurized. But it's all about moderation dude!

I fucking hate you so goddamn much you piece of shit, i hope you die

The concept of hygiene and cleanliness can't be comprehended by your shit race. You probably fed your cow with detritus from the Ganges.

Raw milk is like any other animal product, if they didn't handle in a sanitary fashion you will get sick. Chew their asses out and at least get your money back. I've been drinking only raw milk for 3 years and will go without milk before I buy mass produced milk from the store

>the lactic acid bacteria that are overhauling your shit for the better

s-so I'm just making intestinal gains?

>drinking raw milk

Everyone from Veeky Forums would literally shit in your mouth from how absolutely retarded you are.

>Are you a baby chicken
no eggs
>Are you a fucking plant
no tanning or vitamin D
>Are you a fucking maggot
no meat consumption
>Are you a fucking beanstalk embryo
No beans

Don't have a cow man

The difference is milk is a food that has evolved for the specific species it comes from, and only during their infancy. Other foods, we evolved around ourselves. The only milk that makes sense for you to drink is human breast milk when you're a baby. Drinking a cocktail of cow hormones and growth factors as an adult human is not healthy.

raw milk is actually better for you, but for possible death.

i go to whole foods and get their grass fed, low temp pasteurized non homogenized. it has clumps of fat sometimes.

this is fucking retarded.

milk is literally the only thing you eat that is intended to be eaten.

when you eat vegetables, they weren't made to be eaten. your chicken legs were made to help chickens walk, not to be eaten.

the mile from a cow - is processed to be eaten.

but not that it matters, all that matters is that it is good for us to drink it

Find a better farm. I've been drinking raw milk for a decade and i've never been sick from it.

this. i always described it as liquid cheesecake.

>sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022395615000655
More than that, you are making intenstinal gains and brain gains. :D

It's meant to be eaten when you're a baby if it's your specie's milk.

You don't see grown tigers sucking on the tits of an elephant

Tigers are almost extinct so they must be doing something wrong.. I bet thats it

wut. birds will literally drink milk if it is available to them and they arent even mammals. fuck off with your natural fallacy. Food is a permutation of nutrients and compounds whose benefits greatly outweigh their detriments, who can also be digested and assimilated properly. Milk meets all of those stipulations and raw milk is even better.

>Drinking a cocktail of cow hormones and growth factors
i dont know how its done in ameriland, but decent farmers breed their own cows, and feed them grass (both dry,straw,bails and gree freshly cut on the same day) along with silage (shredded corn plant+kernels fermented over some time with some salt flavoring)
no kind of drugs (enhancing or other) is used on the cows unless they are sick, in which case the milk they produce during the sickness period + drug taking period + safety period is thrown away. the company truck that collects the milk everyday analysis it as it it being loaded and if the slight amount of disease, drugs or even fat content if of the "safe" margins the whole truck batch is discarded and the farmer must pay for ruining that whole truck of milk with "non-valid" milk (there has been cases of farmers watering down milk that got fucked right on the first day)

fruit is made to be sweet so that it will be eaten and the seeds spread out from the shit of whatever ate it

Fuck off m8, my cat drinks cow milk just fine

Veeky Forums doesn't know Jack shit about nutrition so that's not surprising

Pigeons eat kebab leftovers but you don't see them go kill a fucking turkey
Cats drink milk but you don't see them sucking on the tits of a cow.

>milk is literally the only thing you eat that is intended to be eaten.

Intended to be eaten by that specific species during its infancy. A cow's milk isn't intended to be drank by adult humans. Like every mammal, its milk developed with the specific qualities needed to start the growth of a baby of that species. Cow's milk for baby cows, gorilla milk for baby gorillas, rat milk for baby rats, pig milk for baby pigs, human milk for baby humans, all with different ratios of fats, protein, carbohydrate, vitamins, hormones, etc. depending on what that species needs for infant development.

Human breast milk is intended to be eaten by you when you're a baby. Other foods don't need to be designed for us to eat because animals evolve to eat foods, not the other way around.

what the shit are you even saying.

>boiling your milk
look i get that you like how your milk tastes whole from a single cow instead of homogenized fluid from a whole herd of cows, but you can't do that and make some "muh nutrition" argument if you do that vs boring regular pasteurized milk.

(i have no idea why people think that food safety practices are a bad idea. it's literally why people get less sick less often. it's when these practices aren't followed properly that shit gets fucked up.)

Cow milk have the growth hormones to double the size of the calf in a short period of time, that igf-1 will grow tumors on you.
You are a casomorphin degenerate addict

drhyman.com/blog/2010/06/24/dairy-6-reasons-you-should-avoid-it-at-all-costs-2/

I don't think you understand what milk is. It doesn't matter how natural, organic, grass-fed it is, it's always going to have hormones because that's what milk is made for.

>i have no idea why people think that food safety practices are a bad idea

because why not strip all nutrition and beneficial bacteria and saturate it in a cocktail of carcinogenic preservatives, right America?

I don't suck on cow tits or kill turkeys either f a m

>raw milk
>nutrition

if dying is nutritional to you

...

I literally have a bachelors degree in human nutrition. If you are suggesting that we can't eat something because it has a single detriment, you're fucking retarded. There would be nothing to eat on the planet.

>drhyman.com/blog/2010/06/24/dairy-6-reasons-you-should-avoid-it-at-all-costs-2/
oh look, you linked to a poorly cited alarmists pseudo news publication that cherry picks facts to further your own confirmation bias.

Or better yet, spew some woo about how much healthier it is in its raw form despite no research at all supporting that notion and many cases of illness and death linked to it

>igf
>bad
get the fuck out

You use machines to do it for you

Kill yourself faggot.
Stop drinking calf growth fluid you disgusting retard.

youtube.com/watch?v=mHYFOJBU434

>drink down muh Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli
>get sick from tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever
>at least Big Milk didn't get me with their propaganda
maybe you should eat straight off of a dead cow too. just cut off the hide and take a bite. don't want to ruin the nutritional profile by cooking it.

Stop murdering plants?

>Cats drink milk but you don't see them sucking on the tits of a cow
lol, i had a cat that did just that
not sucking but he licked the nipple and did that "paw squeeze thingy" on the udder, drops of milk would come out, only one or two cows didnt matter about the cat doing that though
so fuck your hypothesis :D

The proof that humans aren't real meat eaters.
All the real meat eaters eat it raw.

Are you retarded like your cat?
Do you fucking see on national geographics adult animals drinking milk from a mother of another species ?

Jesus fucking christ casomorphin degenerate addicts are retarded

>vegsource
>old as fuck research
>random conclusions from observations and cherry picked singulr studies.

ok bud

>your milk tastes whole from a single cow instead of homogenized fluid from a whole herd of cows
thats not what homogenization is...
besides, the milk from the whole herd ends up on the same refrigerator tank as it is being milked, so unless you do it by hand into a container you wont be getting milk from just one cow

>Drinking unpasteurized milk
I know Veeky Forums is full of retards these days but some do really take the prize

Why not just drink human breastmilk? Thicker than normal milk and not full of disgusting shit like raw cow milk.

Are you retarded like your thoughts?
Do you fucking see on national geographics adult animals posting on Veeky Forums from a computer with internet connection ?

Jesus fucking christ internet shitposters against evolution addicts are retarded

and all the "real meat eaters" get sick and die all the time.

i'm a master of fire, as passed down to me from my ancestors through millions of years of refinement, such that i turn a knob and obtain invisible fire of constant heat to make my meat hot and juicy so i can swallow it all down into my belly.

Wait, you told him to kill himself,
but also told him to stop drinking the stuff you claim is poison.

Must be something wrong with this shithead's diet. He can't even think straight.

That's not true. Real carnivores thrive on a raw meat diet
Humans (frugivore primates) are disgusted by raw meat.

And get plaque inside their arteries from cooked meat.

I grew up on a farm and drank raw milk until the age of eighteen when we got rid of the dairy cows and start raising beef cattle.

Never got sick from milk.

We fucking evolved so we could drink milk. People with less access to milk usually have a large amount of people who can't drink it. Now that we can drink it, you want us to just stop because we used to not be able to drink it?

Dude, our ancestors literally survived less advanced hunter/gatherers because they could digest milk products while other people couldn't and they even perfected crafting cheese, a protein source that is edible longer than raw milk. So if anything, drinking that sweet baby cow fluid is the evolutionary edge you need, and with all those numale vegan cucks around, maybe you can survive those too and pass your genes on for a new generation of man kind.

Why is it that vegans and now this anti milk fag are always the ones that sound the most aggressive and crazy despite calling others retarded and morally wrong etc

>hurr milk gibs u cancer kill urself!
Ebin

You are not a calf, stop drinking cow milk faggot
You are not a cub, stop drinking lioness milk faggot

how tall are you

>We fucking evolved so we could drink milk

We evolved the ability to not shit ourselves to death when we ate lactose. Nothing about that means cow's milk is meant for us to drink.

what? plenty of monkeys and apes eat meat just fine (raw, because they are not masters of fire like me). they're also omnivores like humans and eat a bunch of not meat stuff as well.

Milk protein is the most cancer growing promoter ever, this is scientific peer reviewed fact.
nutritionstudies.org/provocations-casein-carcinogen-really/

What are we """meant""" to eat you cuck? It's not like god assigned a food for every little creature he created. Part of why humans are so wide spread compared to other animals is that we can adapt and eat different stuff. Are we ""meant"" to dive into the fucking ocean. I don't think so, men had learn how to fish, but i don't see anyone crying about people eating (raw) fish.

Some aitistic chimps eat 2% of their diet from meat and stuff it down with plants so they can digest it to show dominance in the herd.

They eat plants 98% of the time.

You are not a real meat eater of you don't like it raw
For example i'm a fruit eater because i like the taste of it raw.

I'm a fucking human. I don't need to do the same thing cows and lions do. I live in a building and sit most of the day at work. I'm not some hunter from 20,000 years ago.

So what? Do you want me to stop eating peanuts because some fuckwad has a peanut allergy?

Good. So start reading some books and realise that calf growth fluid is good food for humans. Neither is Rat or giraffe milk

Is not*

You are not a dog, stop putting on a (knitted fur) coat faggot
You are not a computer, stop touching keyboards faggot

>what is written on a book is more valuable than my own life experience of more than 2 decades
sure...

Fruits and vegetables at least, which is what our biology is mainly developed around. We can eat all kinds of shit, but it's not all good for us.

>chimps are autistic because they eat meat
My god you're such a fucking mentally retarded troll it hurts to reply

The 2% meat they eat is for nutritional and survival reasons, as confirmed by both my anthropology professor and the fucking zoo guide, they literally need that 2% for optimal health

When there is statistical significance shown about what milk does to the human body, I will listen. Until then, all the studies that conclude something are pointless. There are so many bullshit studies about nutrition that contradict each other.

>The 2% meat they eat is for nutritional and survival reasons, as confirmed by both my anthropology professor and the fucking zoo guide, they literally need that 2% for optimal health

So why does it only occur a few months out of the year? It mainly happens during the dry season, when fruits aren't as available. Basically, do it or starve. If it's not needed year round in their typical diet, why would you think it's necessary for optimal health? It's a desperate measure

Veeky Forums and /g/ are the most retarded boards here though

What's wrong with Veeky Forums?

What an arbitrary and vague demarcation. There are literally thousands of fruits and vegetables that will kill you.

So basically dont drink milk so youll be a manlet that lives longer. Fuck that

>drank milk all my life
>still do, daily
>am manlet
I call bullshit on that video!

It's a bunch of high schoolers circlejerking over their knowledge of 1st year undergraduate math and physics?

>no kind of drugs (enhancing or other) is used on the cows unless they are sick
That's not true, cows are continuously given antibiotics to keep an possible infection at bay and stave off future exposures.
I'm all for milk tho, but only 1%

Cats are lactose intolerant tho, you should try lactate milk.

Guys


Why dont we drink breast milk instead

>current year
>consuming milk that comes from an animal's breasts

dude, i had a farm and know some people who still do
that antibiotics shit does not happen, not a chance! the milk cant be used (human or calf) if the cow is on antibiotics (or anything else)
dont assume shit about stuff you know nothing about and try to pass it as knowledge, makes you look stupid

he's talking about america, where standard practices differ from yours

I actually remember the taste of breast milk as a toddler
Best drink I've ever had

adults generally don't remember anything before the age of 2 (infantile amnesia). were you not weaned by then? do you remember sucking your momma's tits?

in ameriland lactocompanies accept milk with traces of antibiotics and disease in it?
wtf, i wouldnt feed that shit to anything that has legs, let alone humans.
why feed the animals antibiotics constantly? it will only make the animal, and subsequent lineage, weaker against infections. are cows that cheap around there? (a decent dairy cow is around $1000 here, better breeds way more)

>This shitty vegan propaganda and misinformation