Veeky Forums's thoughts on Fat acceptance

I'm going to /pol/ for a moment, but I really think it's a conspiracy to the line the pockets of medical doctors or for people to eventually be forced to use Obamacare (or its successor).
A lot of liberal politicians have their dirty fingers in every portion of the health industry.
Overweight/Obesity kill more people world wide than anything else via heart disease.
If not that increased chance of
>cancer
>stroke
>disease
>organ failure
>countless more problems
They tried to blame this shit on smoking, but we are finding more and more than smoking actually causes a lot less danger than originally thought in comparison to obesity.
A lot of heart disease deaths previously thought to be caused by smoking are actually now believed to be a cause of fat and smoking plaque. A mixture of the two.

and yet I see anti smoking campaigns 24/7, but I see no campaigns against obesity.
Well smoking is now at an all time low, I can only hope that as hundreds of thousands of 1st worlders continue to die after smoking has become almost non existent that someone will catch on.

The medical industry makes plenty of money off obesity already.

Minus being attracted to fat chicks this, its the absurdity of the idea thay being fat is unchangeable, healthy, and beautiful and comparable to hard work/dedication that is the true target.

I wouldn't ever directly bully someone but the idiots who try to convince everyone being 450lbs is genetics and beautiful might as well give up now.

I know, but part of the problem is other countries are picking up their research on problems that have been killing 1st worlders for years.
Living "cleaner" if you will.
The U.S. health industry in particular has a lot to lose because of how shitty our lives are.
So doctors aren't coming out in droves, fighting against obesity, sure if you mention you feel sick they will help you or tell you to stop being a fat ass, but dude... when aids came around we had doctors 24/7 talking about it, trying to understand it, trying to teach people the dangers of it.
Obesity kills more people than aids ever has or will, literally having aids is healthier than being obese, you can live a full life now with god damn HIV brother.
I digress, I hate fat people because my dad is sick due to obesity. So i'm pretty prone to ranting about it.
If I google search right this second (which I did just to see what would be posted) I find little more than a few blog post and articles written by small time writers from CNN about it.
It's just the wrong answer.

Wow bro. You make me feel better about my fat fetish. I guess its a chubby fetish now that i have some perspective. I had to look that girl up holy shit shes big. Best of luck bro, hope you find your ideal waifu

Even with a rampant fat fetish, I'd never bullshit a fat chick and tell her her obesity is healthy. I'd just tell her I found her attractive anyway.

Nor would I pressure a woman to stay fat because it gave me a boner.

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HAES/FA boils down to the same principle of any pointless SJ movement: put the blame on everybody else but yourself. I call this "redistribution of sociopolitical power". I think that's why SJWs like communism and Marx so much. SJWs will make everybody else carry their burden of being fat/"disabled"/ignorant/insatiable/nitpickers. They would love to spread the blame on you, your upbringing and your society before they put a finger on themselves. Nobody forced their hands to pick up 20 Big Macs when they're sad, nobody forced some ridiculous " trigger" upon them, nobody assigned gender roles to them, nobody stops them from attending college, nobody stops them from applying for jobs. Nobody.

It's a little more bearable if they repeat a lie to themselves and everybody around them "it's your fault, not mine". This is why it piss me off when fat bitches giggle among themselves when they raid the vending machine worth of snacks and walk into class like it's nothing.

There's no free will, I tell them this in an effort to get them to realize they need learn self-control instead of making " healthy choices" on the spot at Habit Burgers. I tell them free will is 9 seconds after your brain has already made a choice and just now you're conscious of this decision. I try to empower them with things that seem to immobilize you.

They just look at me like I'm crazy.

Understandable. A landwhale-tier fat fetish requires a lot of cultivation. I saw expansion scenes for many years in cartoons, then I discovered I had a fat fetish outright in my 20s. Then I started exercising not too long afterward, and the bigger I got, the more over-the-top my fat fetish became. And on top of this, I grew up in one of the fattest regions in America.

I was pretty much destined to get hard for landwhales.

I once knew an Asian guy from Atlanta. He legitimately thought he liked "chubby" girls until he came to Vietnam. His fat fetish was gone within 2 months of living in Vietnam, where all the girls are thin and petite.

Gonna be honest, fat fetish is one of the only fetishes I can't even begin to understand.

I think only a small minority of people should be fat, and that's the people who genuinely want to be fat.

Seems like the best solution for everybody. It would automatically end the obesity epidemic.

More cushion for the pushin is always the explanation I hear.

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>wanting to be fat.
That's just plain mental illness.

I'd rather bash my hip bones into a thin/fit chick's than deal with the aesthetics smell etc of a fat girl.

Pretty sure it's permanent in my case. I knew I was into fatties when I was like 20, and I'm almost 34 now.

No offense taken. You really do have to have the fetish to understand it.

Literally figuratively cancer.

It's a fetish like any other. Irrational.

I agree with you on that one. Maybe they have their eyes closed? That's just my best guess.

Why should anybodyvbe fat? I'm okay with a little baby fat but not when they are 30+ lbs overweight. I want every citizen to be in fighting condition, ready to form civilian defense troops in case kebabs decide to rape us like goats.

Probably not wrong. Kind of a "control both sides" issue - they sell us sugar to get us fat, and then sell us weight loss crap that doesn't work. Either way they win.

There are ultra leftists who aren't into idiotic idpol. Quit playing into /pol/ memes.

My point is, if the only people who got fat were those who were going to go out of their way to be fat by choice, you'd have a few thousand at most globally instead of several million now.

That's actually the truly scary thing about the obesity epidemic. The absolute overwhelmingly majority aren't trying to get fat on purpose, and they're still fat.

Nice cat, catposter. Post some more.

Not every leftist adheres to FA, but every FA dipshit is a leftist. There's nothing /pol/ about this

Veeky Forums's thoughts on fat acceptance? Why don't you ask what Veeky Forums's thoughts on weight lifting are next?

And it actually used to be this way. 50-100 years ago, before they started putting added sugar in every goddamn thing, only like 10% of the population was obese. You really had to work at being fat without added sugar. Now it's more like 1/3, and rising fast. By 2030 they expect literally HALF of the population to be obese.

This. There's plenty of fatties on both sides, but fat acceptance SJW bullshit is 100% a liberal concoction.

My phone keeps trying to autocorrect "fat" to "gay". Coincidence? I think not.

Begone, Satan!

I don't understand this. It's nothing exercise and basic knowledge of nutrition can't fix.

It's why I am thin. I have a fat fetish and I understand how to stay in shape.

Fat Acceptance as a movement is left-wing, but don't pretend there aren't a ton of conservative women pushing for fat as the new beauty standard. Just go on facebook, it's full of normies bragging about how real women have curves or drink a ton of alcohol or what not. Oh yeah, and my favorite, bones are for the dog, meat for the man. The left part of FA is too feminist, they're not the ones trying desperately to convince guys to find them attractive. It's the redneck chicks and "country grrrls" trying to justify their weight with shit like "I'd rather have a six pack of Bud than six pack abs."

I'm keeping this.

"Anti-obesity campaigns are big government infringing on my freedom to drink beer and devour food that clogs my arteries."

>literally having aids is healthier than being obese
That's actually really inspirational. Makes me want to go to the gym.

Pretty much, I don't think Veeky Forums realizes the horror of living in the rural Midwest. So many people are against any form of child anti-obesity campaign, no one has any idea of what's healthy or not, and I'm surrounded by girls and women getting fatter and fatter while saying shit like "Guys like something to hold onto at night lol." All the guys just want to be as big as possible whether it's fat or muscle.

I want this to be fake. What an entitled bitch.

It also explains why the South is so fat, the stronghold of Conservatism.

I see plenty of fatties here.

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But half of what you're describing isn't fat acceptance as much as it is tongue-in-cheek humor and/or acknowledgement of responsibility.

Fat acceptance is about the opposite of responsibility. It is blaming the media/some social force for "unrealistic expectations," it is blaming a false scientific assessment of the reasoning behind their being fat, and attempting to create an environment that allows them to live without guilt of their decisions rather than simply hold themselves to a different standard.

In general, the more conservative fatties recognize the error of their ways, and accept some level of personal responsibility for the outcome of their decisions on the grounds that the means to that outcome provide them with pleasure.

The left leaning fatties work backwards by proclaiming false shit like "this is how my body is, even when I was eating 104 calories per day and running 22 hours every day, and society needs to accept that", and try to use that to muster up a feeling of happiness/contentment.

The fat acceptance movement, as presented in the context of interpersonal and corporate social reform, is a leftist ideology. It's related to, but not necessarily the same as, those fat redneck grrls posting minions memes about eating chocolate all day

It's because sugar is literally addictive. We are "conditioned" to not put it at the same level as, say, nicotine or alcohol. But that's what it's like.

>Veeky Forums becomes a shit board of memecycling and CHADposting
>fat acceptance movement now provides 100% of the world's supply of Fat People Stories
>they do this free of charge, out of the goodness of their cheesy bacon hearts
works for me m8

Well, it's also where most black people live, and they vote Democrat more than 90%.

Just judging from the ones I see on Tinder, almost ALL black girls are really, really fat.

>and you wonder why we have so many anorexic women in the world
not enough obviously

>literally having aids is healthier than being obese
THIS SHOULD BE BANNER

Ah.

In other words, if you like fat women, always pick the conservative over the liberal.

If you like any women, you should always pick the conservative over the liberal :^)

I don't have any problem with being okay with your own body and being confident and feeling beautiful or attractive or anything. I think the problem comes when you claim that weighing 400 pounds as a 5'6 woman is just as healthy as weighing 130 pounds. It's been proven that it isn't, and there's no point arguing that it is.

Another issue is when they start to argue that people "should" be attracted to them and that they have some kind of right to have people be attracted to them. They simply refuse to have any kind of introspection or personal change, they think it would be easier to change all of society and what people find attractive as human beings than to change up their diet a little bit or just exercise a bit more.

tl;dr If you're fine with your body and feel attractive and confident, that's great, but don't have any delusions about it being healthy, and don't complain when people don't find you as attractive as you find yourself

Its alchohol man.

Sugar is barely on the radar aside from the maltose variety. Alchohol is easily the most abused and over consumed form of calories.

Even light beer is 10.4 calories per ounce.

The issue with alchohol is that its carelessly added ON TOP of everything else you ate and drank that day, and the following day you feel miserable so working out is unlikely.

You wanna know why the reverse progress images happen? Party girls who hit 21 and realize they don't get high school attention unless they are at a club taking beers from every dry dick that spots them.

As they get heavier, they eat more and more because of their larger energy demand, and they drink more because it takes more alcohol to get them shit faced.

Long as she's not certifiable, I'll ignore her politics if she ignores mine.

I agree with this. It's not an accident a lot of "party girls" turn into blimps, thanks to booze.

But barely anyone talks about this, the sheer amount of calories in alcohol.

Because everyone loves to drink. Why would you call out your best friend on a lonely night?

Alcohol keeps us fat, dumb and happy.
Well I can be dumb and happy on my own thank you very much, so I don't need you alchohol

Wrong. It's sugar. Pretty much all normie processed foods have sugar added. Empty calories leave you craving more empty calories. Most of the fatties I know don't binge drink, they're just completely ignorant about nutrition. Watch the documentary called Fed Up.

It's true that alcohol is empty calories, but that alone isn't why more and more people are getting fat. There's plenty of fat people who don't drink alcohol.

It IS the sugar. America's food didn't always have added sugar in every fucking thing, and soda/candy was an OCCASIONAL treat given out OCCASIONALLY by parents that actually gave a fuck. Nowadays, people drink soda with every meal and eat candy every day.

Even at a drive thru burger joint, it's not necessarily the burger that makes you fat. It's the 44 ounce soda that comes with it. You'd still have to work fairly hard to get fat off of cheeseburgers and water.

I'm fat AMA

are you trying to get healthy?

Let's see....I don't eat candy, don't drink, don't drink soda, don't smoke, avoid almost all fast food, I get lots of vitamins, drink sugar-free & super low calorie fruit juice & tea, my job is so intense my weight is effectively regulated....and I fantasize about landwhales.

LOL.

As a girl who's been fat since childhood, it's fucking retarded. I've always hated being fat and never understood how others could even try to convince themselves that it's not a bad thing, let alone try to convince others.

Well I only have my life as an example.
Lets see, I don't drink alcohol, and I eat pretty much what I want and drink sodas.

Not a fat piece of crap

Lets look at all my friends.
They eat less then I do
They drink diet sodas
They drink like normal people
Majority are overweight or obese

Wife doesn't drink either, lost weight and never gained it back. Still eats pretty bad but she avoids sugary drinks. She would have to considering she is only 4'11''

Look man, I can't convince you of this. You just have to observe. Go out with your friends one night and secretly tally their drinks. I remember one night when 3 friend split 4 pitchers of regular draft, then went home and had a collective totals on 10 beers.

Thats 4590 calories between them or 1530 a piece.
Granted it wasn't split that evenly, but do you get the picture here? That was all stacked on top of everything else they ate for the day (and of course they have to eat before they drink or they will get sick. )

I think maybe I'm just turned on by fat women, because they are my polar opposite. Everything I'm not.

That is a lot of calories to be sure. I'm glad I shun booze.

Not saying people don't get fat from binge drinking, sure it's common. But the overall trend in fatness in 1st world countries is due to sugar.

It is definitely a factor in Mexico.

They drink more sugary soda than America, which is why the country is slightly fatter than the US.

Lot of Latina fatties for that reason.

Yep, either way you lose.
Oh and you have to have insurance because we just jacked up the prices of basic doctor visits just for the luls, leg broken? Too bad you didn't have compensation plan, now you're jobless and broke and your wife leaves you for a new guy.
Healthcare has probably ruined more lives than anything else in the last fifty years for Murica. There is no way to win with it.

Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but people with aids usually become super health conscious and if you can afford the regular medication there is almost no difference in life expectancy anymore.
aidsmap.com/Life-expectancy-now-considerably-exceeds-the-average-in-some-people-with-HIV-in-the-US/page/2816267/
citation provided even
latimes.com/science/la-sci-sn-extreme-obesity-cuts-lifespan-20140708-story.html
>with aids you will die 15 years earlier on average, with obesity you will die 14 years earlier almost.
1 year difference between aids and morbidly obese on average.
LET'S DO IT

How is it that I'm the first person to make this?

HAES activists are pathetic delusional pricks and pic related is an accurate depiction of how they handle their life threatening obesity related health issues

Have you ever stepped foot in the south?
Every other ham is bitching about "tha libruls" trying to make America "anorexic and vegan".

You do realize that the south is purposely left to a lower standard for industrial corporations to make money off them right?
Most jobs are industrial production or maintenance (product shippers, button pushers, mechanics, technicians) that doesn't require education any formal education. The lower your education the more likely you are to be obese and impoverished.
The south also has the highest concentration of blacks and is often the area that the most immigrants are sent who are refugees (like the laotian refugee movement in the 1970s in tn and the muslim refugee push in the last 5 years).

The south on average has some of the lowest test scores in the entire country, the government does nothing to change this, they don't want to help educate the population.
We are the slaves of today, making your car parts, packaging your foods, all kinds of menial fucking bullshit.
Nashville TN is just now getting a large amount of IT jobs, almost 20 years behind every other major city in the country.

Yeah, and the voters of the South don't do shit about this.

I live in the south, specifically east Tennessee. I see hamplanets daily here. Read what I posted in

>the uneducated voters aren't voting to change things
Gee, I fucking wonder why.

I've never heard anyone post or say such things in real life.

The fat acceptance movement is pretty much all liberals. Sure there are fat conservative women who post "big is beautiful" but the movement as it stands is mostly run by left wing feminists. Just look at the language that they use in their rhetoric.

Lol, you can argue against it if you want, but most of your millennial comrades wouldn't accept you with such views. In 2016, you are the minority in your own movement (and as a right winger I personally love the fact that the left cannibalizes itself so much)

South Carolina here, also the landwhale-chaser.

Plenty of fatties here.

They don't do shit to change it BUT they don't hold body positive rallies, try to force schools to teach HAES, set up blogs full of lies on tumblr, etc

I really do hate it, but the big school here gave me a free ride for their engineering program, so I'm taking it. Seriously, everyone that isn't a student here is either obese or an obvious user of meth. It's insane

We try to not vote democrat?
Why do you think we never get any support any time a democratic president is in office?
Blacks hate Obama because he did nothing to help them out, he switched almost over night to the minority with the most numbers (mexicans) to win more votes. All of his policies went to them.
Let me ask you how many southern states have a latino population above 1 million, the answer is zero.
So automatically everything he pushed for did nothing for the south, Obamacare fell through, he didn't push for any education reform in southern states, hardly any new jobs were pushed for the south, the ones that were once again industrial majority.

The south is the middle child of the country, it gets all the shit and none of the benefits.
>coincidently TN state wide votes republican, but county wise has more democratic votes.
Last two elections we votes 40% democrat, I'm pretty sure that's the black vote, memphis is 63% black, nashville is like 30%, knoxville is like 40%. those are the three largest cities.

Honestly the right should be pro-obesity, when you think about it ideologically.

They're theoretically against the government telling people what to do. Government trying to curtail obesity reeks of Nanny State, and demonizing the fast food industry is anti-business.

"It is not up to the government to control people's weight, it is the people's. Nor should big business be demonized for people's individual decisions. Fast food is not big tobacco. There's no nicotine in a fucking burger."

>tfw love Latina women
>tfw more than half of them get fat in their 20s

Uh huh. It is somehow the Democrats' fault the South is in disarray, when the GOP's stronghold is in the South.

You can't say the Democrats ruined the South, when the GOP has owned the entire region for quite a few decades.

The GOP is responsible for the current state of the South, because they own it.

"Don't vote Democrat" doesn't work in that case. You're voting to keep the guys who keep screwing you over in power.

I live in South Carolina. I see the GOP's incompetence every day, and I long for the day the state is finally liberated.

And what a "fine" job they've done....running it into the goddamn ground.

>affirming and playing into the idea different parties must hold opposite opposing opinions on all political stances.

Why dont we all agree you shouldnt be fat and you should know better than to let yourself be so overweight you fat slob. But at least you know its not anyone elses fault and also dont hold other members of your nation accountable for your bad decision or ask them to pander to your needs and ego desires by forcing health care needs and social justice views.

Well what type of right are you talking about?

If you mean more of the libertarian approach where it's leave me alone to live my life and I'll leave you alone to live yours, then your right.

But there's also the morality minded right wingers, who are heavily influenced by protestant ethics, where things like obesity, gluttony, and waste are seen as immoral and personal failures.

Part two

Does anyone have the literally evolution screencap

It's a weird point, though. You can easily curtail obesity rates by changing some relatively minor standards in the educational system instead of relying on the development of a campaign created by people who have direct impact on federal tax revenue expenditure.

And the main outcry against unhealthy food businesses aren't usually from government figures, or if they are, they're much lower on the totem pole (e.g. the mayor of NYC)

I'm not fat.

I just get off on the obesity of women.

Well I live in Texas and we have dipshits from Blue States flooding here by the hundreds of thousands every year because they fucked up their economies back home.

Shit the recession grazed us, while most democrat dipshits in California, New York, etc were sent reeling.

I hope this state stays red so the jobs and prosperity continue to grow, instead of having our economy run into the ground like California (seriously, theres so much industry and tourism there, it's amazing how they manage to keep tanking money)