Serious thread

TAX FAT PEOPLE
THE FATTER YOU ARE THE BIGGER THE TAX TILL YOU LOSE THAT FUCKING WEIGHT

If not then more and serious PE classes at school with solid nutrition advice.

my freshman pe class was a joke.
>everyone done stretching?
>ok lets go play niggerball

>Athletes under lowest

Ya think?

Right because the poorer people are the healthier they live.

You're just going to cause moderately overweight people to get even fatter, not to mention culturally isolate them. Why would a hated, overtaxed, angry landwhale give a single fuck about improving themselves.

How about only bigger taxed on food

>all restaurant food is bad for you
wat? does he mean fast food chains when he says restaurant? fucking nobody in europe would address fucking mcdonalds as a restaurant.
I'm not into transatlantic internet dick measuring fights but this time - what the fuck, america?

you just need a good team

youtube.com/watch?v=0bfmq7leZdk

5'10

180 pounds 13% bodyfat

>overweight

ayy lmao

This so much
If you played a sport you were excused from PE, but my PE experience was always
>let's play dodgeball
>or basketball
>or just walk around
no one took any of it seriously, might as well not have a PE class at all and just add in another study hall.
All it did was make us super sweaty and go back to class.

first we need to be better at measuring it. willing to wager nearly every single dude who has been lifting for a year would be labeled 'obese' based on BMI (which is what these faggoty statistics are using) regardless of body fat %.

we all know an obese person when we see them, but how do you quantify that? bmi works for women and bernie supporters, but for anyone who has done a bit of physical activity it's useless.

Ban oil, butter, cheese, cream, chips, fries, cookies, cakes, donuts, burgers, chocolate, any meat product with more than 5% fat, and any other high-fat food.
Problem solved

Look around you. Do you really think the statistics are thrown off because of jacked people? Nah man, most people are fat as fuck. No man should be above 15% bodyfat really, 20% absolute max.

175 8% bodyfat. Feels gud.

well its measured because usually people who care about these things look fat

In the US, legally speaking, a restaurant is any establishment that serves food.
>Department of Health and Human Services], restaurant means “a facility that prepares and sells food directly to consumers for immediate consumption
definitions.uslegal.com/r/restaurant/

Legally, McDonalds is a restaurant.

its kinda funny that the low obesity jobs are usually the more higher IQ ones, the only odd one out is the engineer one though. The rest fall just fine in line with the low IQ professions.

First step is to stop subsidizing sugar, meat, and cheese

skelington or below 5'8"?

Just let natural selection do its job

Nah, I'm 6'1 otter.

dude, not even jacked. not even close. *ANY* amount of muscle on a male would tip him into overweight or obese.

And again, it's obvious when someone is fat. That's not the problem. the problem is using something like BMI and trying to judge population-wide fitness levels. And then going a step further, and making policy decisions based on those stats.

Feels bad though, used to be 190 then I fucked myself up. 200 is the goal for the end of the year.

>economists, psychologists, artists, actors, athletes, reporters, bartenders, waiters, janitors, maids, landscapers, cooks
>high IQ

actually
>more higher
yeah

...

Into overweight maybe, obese, nah. You'd have to be jacked or strongfat emphasis on fat.

Jesus Christ, all the emergency services are fat as fuck, how is that allowed? What if someone dies because you're a fat fuck?

That pic is dumb as fuck, the author should've read the sticky.

lol, none of those jobs require an IQ except being a physician, dentist, scientist and economist. The rest are cucktier.

>police and firefighters grouped together

I see fat cops all the time but are firefighters really that fat? They have to be strong and fit to carry people from buildings and stuff

>the problem is using something like BMI and trying to judge population-wide fitness levels

That's pretty much the only thing BMI is actually good for, dude. Yeah, BMI is gonna say you're overweight if you've got any noticeable amount of muscle on you, but the vast majority of people don't. It's not about you, it's about the population. Most of the population in the overweight+ categories of BMI are actually fat. It makes sense to base policies off of that. The problem is using BMI to judge individuals. That's when it breaks down.

Well, I'm 5'11 200 pounds and just shy of visible abs with a BMI of 27.9.

I barely look like I lift.

5'11 215 would be over 30 (obese)

It's not that much of a stretch desu!

Education, raising awareness of obesity-related conditions and keeping all the HAES idiots away from young, impressionable people

You probably look fat as fuck, post a pic

You said any muscles. In real life and not Veeky Forums body dysmorphia land being lean and 200 lbs is pretty fucking huge. Barely any muscles is the guy that is physically active or works out twice a week.

215 lean at 5'11 would be huge and accounts for a tiny fraction of lifters.

Health education
consider HAES tumblarinas terrorists
increased taxes on junk food (freedom to enjoy, fucking merica after all)

that's about it really

And for normies BMI still returns more false positive (skinny fat) than false negatives (fitshaming)

I consider myself in decent Veeky Forums @ 6'3" and 190# BMI is 23.7 however...

there ya go.

dat gut doe

You're barely in overweight bmi. By the time you cut your fat a bit you'll likely be in the healthy range.

youtube.com/watch?v=fISgKl8dB3M

>those hostesses

B R E H S
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Remove federal corn subsidies. The reason junk food is so cheap is because the price of corn is pushed artificially low. Removing the subsidy would force the food industry get rid of half that shit. It would also give the farmers the incentive to grow healthier fruits and veggies on their land instead which will lower prices on produce and help remove food deserts.

Raise the gasoline tax by several dollars and plow the money into public transit, bike lanes, and urban renovations to make society more walkable.

>tossing the salad bar

Why are economists and such so thin, other than wealth and education? I've noticed investment bankers tend to be leaner than average, even though they work 80+ hours a week. Could it be all the cocaine?

>vegans actually think sugars and simple carbs aren't responsible for obesity

It's called being an endomorph.

Plus, if you're talking about BB investment bankers, they mostly exercise or play a sport (otherwise they're at a disadvantage for hiring) and they don't hire anyone that doesn't look good (sell-side/IB is client HEAVY, just like banker chicks' assess after four years. Cellulite is like none other).

Japan, until last year, had the metabo law. Basically people got their waist measured and if it was over the government mandated limit their city and employers got fined.

So it was down to the city and employer to ensure people weren't hambeasts.

Otherwise tax the fuck out of shitty food as is done with tobacco and booze.

Metabo law only required measurement of waistline. There were no fees or penalties involved.

Wrong.
snopes.com/politics/medical/metabolaw.asp

All schools should have a mandatory cooking/nutrition class for elementary school to high school. In my country Nip-land had that class at least 4-5 times a week. I think that's one reason why Japan don't have obesity problems. But the problem is, we eat too much salt lelel

Nurse here. Lots of fatties in the profession. Doctors are all super thin tho, in my experience. No time to eat lol.

Home ec is a fucking joke, at least in chuugako. The final exam for ninensei was literally to peel an apple.

Cocaine. Wolf of Wall Street is a documentary.

>obesity defined as BMI of 30 or above

BMI conforms and is acceptable as a snapshot.

This is simple. I would force everybody to lift. If people who are "obese" now still ate copious amounts of food but lifted while doing so, at the worst they would be 25-26% bodyfat monsters with tons of muscle and strength they could use to easily lose fat at any time now that their TDEE is 3500 calories

Yeah, well obviously the workers who have a lot more active jobs are more likely to fit into the 'high bmi low body fat' area.

BMI is the worst idea ever. It's only useful for people who don't lift or exercise at all.

that 35,5 BMI guy at 12% BF is fucking yuuugee

landwhales are angry and hated already. Might as well.

Just lock everyone with a BMI of over 40 up in a closed mental ward, only three low cal meals a day, until they're human again.

Keto masterrace reporting in. It's carbs that create landwhales, not meat and butter.
Fuck you, banana girl cuck.

taxing doesn't solve smokers, but being pricks/social sanctions does. That is what should be copied, not the regressive taxing of the poors.

how do you explain banana girl tho

Fucking aye. Public mockery will put an end to obesity. Instead of this PC, beautiful at any size bullshit.

I've heard that a lot of (especially part time) firefighters tend to get real fat real quick because it's easy to slip into bad habits. It's not like a normal 9-5 job, you have to go to the firehouse on call for like 3 days at a time, whenever you're needed. If you get into bad habits of eating shit food and being sedentiary the whole time like playing video games it's super easy to become obese. Plus the fact that firefighters lift heavy shit and tend to get chronic pain from that, that causes them to exercises less and a high stress job which leads people to eat more. Just easy to get fat if you aren't ontop of it all the time.

WWIII will solve obesity

Everyone fit will die and the obese will starve.

10/10 blonde on the right at 1:30

Half the shit he listed was simple carbs

She's batshit insane. Conclusion: if carbs don't make you fat, they'll make you crazy.

>thinks only one thing could contribute to obesity
>uses the phrase "carbs" ambiguously like lentils and berries are what's making people fat
>thinks America's cheese obsession isn't a major contributor to the obesity epidemic

kek

Yeah they exist. Tend to be charge nurses or old-timers who have more administrative work and don't move as much.

Overall tho its more good than bad.

Physical Therapists tho... hold me brehs...

>Medical Technician in Yay Area

except look at the graph ...

don't just knee jerk reply without reading information.

i don't understand people like you.

that graph DIRECTLY contradicts your reply and is actually quantitative versus your fucking anecdotal argument.

lifting weights is not going to let you be < 20% bodyfat in obese category.

you're going to find at BEST you'll be

Man, I feel bad for you guys that had shitty gym classes growing up. I didn't get a taste of poor PE until I moved to a school with very shitty funding. At my first school we did everything. Archery, weight lifting, football, soccer, basketball, tennis, kickball, softball, volleyball, lacrosse. You name it, we did it. Co-ed, too, and the girls actually tried because they wanted to impress the boys.

Then I moved to a normal school. Stretching, some sit ups and pushups and basketball was pretty much all we did. Sex segregated, too. It sucked. No one had any motivation and mostly just walked in circles around the gym.

My boyfriend has diabetes (type 1, so calm your tits, everyone), and I went with him to an appointment one day because he was late to picking me up from the gym and didn't have time to drop me off at home. All the nurses and assistants, the front desk ladies and the janitors were all massive. I mean, I thought I was fat, but God Damn. I was about to tell him he needs to find a new clinic when the doctor and a medical student came in. I heaved a huge sigh of relief, as they were both slender and the doctor even seemed to have a little bit of muscle.

I couldn't believe how many fat people were working in a clinic geared toward the care of those with diabetes. Work close to your source of insulin, I guess.

I agree with the first paragraph, for the most part. I am, unfortunately, a bleeding heart liberal, and do take some issue with just forcing things. That said, these shit companies need their lobbying power taken away so we can get their shit food pyramids out of our schools. I say increase food stamp funding, but limit what people can buy. No junk, no soda, not even sugary juices.

As for the second part, I agree that we need more room to walk and run and bike, but fucking with the price of gas that much would put a lot of people out of jobs.

doctors ain't got time to be fat bro, they don't got time to eat.

everyone other than the consultant is working 14 hours a day at 6 days a week with the 7th day on call.

Increase premiums, co pays, by a certain amount or percent for every ten pounds a person is overweight.

You can be fat but it's going to cost you.

This however can be levied if house actively working toward dropping rate. You'll get kicked down a level or two and weigh in every 4 weeks if you meet the weight lose goal you get lowered even more, if not you get kicked back up to more payment.

She's full of shit and has been caught multiple times chowing down on burgers etc.

Post the evidence

>I say increase food stamp funding
When you grow up and start paying taxes, you'll grow out of this bleeding heart bullshit.

Team up with /pol and eliminate all the degenerates (like fats).

But seriously, lol to all the people suggesting the government do things. The government created this problem by giving these people an environment to feel complacent enough to feel comfortable letting their own health go.
Self sufficiency, depending only on yourself to get healthy, is the only thing that will get these fat fucking morons to change.

This.

The whole "don't let them buy junk food with food stamps" means every grocery store clerk and gas station clerk will have to know the food stamp system to not allow these fucking idiots to buy shit with their "free" money. Also, so many fucking loopholes, good luck changing that you government trusting, blind, fucking idiots. Go get a job at a grocery store or gas station and have fun seeing the food stamp system, and your wonderful government, in action.

REEEEEEEE

Shut up you mong, fuel in vs fuel out has been proven. I am under 10% bf and I eat carbs all day and at any time. Mong.

ketotards are as bad as vegantards, the idea they both take shots at eachother is hilarious as they're viewed as equally delusion to a sane moderate.

> muh only eat this

>they're viewed as equally delusion to a sane moderate

I think a sane moderate wouldn't really care what other people eat.

I really want to try being both for a while, just to see if it's possible and what it does. I mean, it wouldn't really screw up my lifts if I get the right amount of calories, it would just be disgusting but who knows I might turn into an Aryan superman or some sort of next level human.

Since when did you care about the welfare of gas station clerks?

.. i mean .. what?

you typed a sentence and it's words, but it makes very little sense in the context of reality.

i mean i've tried simply for experiences sake most diets at one point for a new perspective/take.

low carb/no carb/high fat/IF/carb cycling.

i never went fully veg/vegan w/e but I did go on a very high vegetable diet for awhile, which featured some fish/chicken as protein.

and I've also been extremely busy at work before and eaten nothing but vending machine food for days.

ultimately, there is very minor differences between all of them re:fat loss. calories was ALWAYS the best predictor not macro composition.

low carb/nocarb is by far the most miserable though, without a doubt.

talking total cognitive shutdown.

Maybe one day, but not today. I do have a job and pay taxes, but my view is as it is because of my experiences. Perhaps later in life I will have a different experience and my views will change. Until then, you could share your viewpoint, if you'd like.

I worked at a Wal-Mart unloading trucks for a while. Our food came in with two different numbers. One indicated snacks, and another indicated actual food. Perhaps the system that handles the register could be modified to tell the difference between these two things, and could inform the cashier to make this process easier.

>equally delusional

Not when it comes to diet. A vegan diet conforms well to mainstream eating advice. Keto diets are like the opposite of what any expert would agree is good.