Why do you weight train when you're not a competitive lifter?

no other hobby is as delusional as weight lifting

>muh jennedix
Kys when?

No srsly, tho genetics dont affect progressive overload.
Genetics dont affect caloric intake.

Gene expression does affect nutrient partitioning, but lifting changes gene expression.

So what DO genrtics determine?

Joint size and muscle origins/insertions.

Shit that only matters on a bodybuilding stage.

Genetics doesnt affect non-professional bodybuilders, you fagtard.

why the fuck would you NOT do this? MMA fighters are some of the best all-around athletes on earth.

Because I want to be stronger than the majority because violence speaks louder than words.

P.s. You cant argue i had good gene expression for nutrient partitioning.

Parents have been fat since i was born (father currently approaching deathfat, literally blames his thyroid)
I was born fat as fuck, and was fat my entire childhood, and early adulthood.

Age 23 i realized i was type 2 obese, and started losing weight.

So my gene expression was fully geared towards fat retention and not at all towards lean mass

Actually i believe gymnasts have the best crossover rates into other fields of athletics. Hence gsp's obsession with gymnastics. Which i think is a tad overblown and silly.

Imo just do strength training, then plyometrics and cardio

Depends what you're looking for. I will agree that if you start lifting thinking you're gonna be the epitome of health then yes you're delusional.

But if you just want to have a nicer looking body or be stronger for your job then it's a decent way to meet a goal. Your argument about cardio being better for health and longevity is actually true, but after doing triathlons in high school I'm now really thin. I'd like to get bigger, but not fat. Is that really bad?

What country do you live in for that sentence to be true?

Some second world shithole?

you didn't say anything retard. you're getting stronger? wow, now what.

how many people HONESTLY get into lifting just to increase the weight they can lift and no other reason?

you do not look better
you are increasing your chance of getting injured
you have to spend more money on food
you generally have to eat shit like protein powder
you are constantly in recovery mode making you less functional overall
if you don't keep lifting you turn back into a giant pussy

so why do you lift? there's literally no reason to. you're not a competitive lifter. pushing a weight up and down is not a hobby. you aren't a paid athlete.

everything you say is better replaced by going for a jog and strengthening your heart.

you are a meme victim, nothing more.

i guess if you're too weak to do basic bodyweight exercises like a push up then maybe you should hit the weight room

>mfw that's exactly why I lift
Pull ups and push ups are death for my skelly body

So that when i show my bf a picture of
And ask if my physique is better, i get laughter at tom brady's expense.

I look fucking amazing compared to before i lifted, despite your frogposting.

After 6 months proper training, my risk for injury is severely decreased, i spend less on food, because i used to be type 2 obese.
My "recovery mode" is at least 10x stronger, faster, and more athletic than you at peak optimum performance. Also i have trained regularly enough to feel completely normal post training.

Feeling weak after training or on rest days goes away after the first month (did for me, anyways)

Also anaerobic cardio is better for heart health than aerobic cardio.

Tl;dr: everything you said is literally the opposite of true

>skelly
>cant do bw
...that... isn't supposed to be how it works, user

>After 6 months proper training, my risk for injury is severely decreased
lol no it's not. one mistake and you never lift again. any day to day injury that it protects you against can be replaced by basic bodyweight exercises

>My "recovery mode" is at least 10x stronger, faster, and more athletic than you at peak optimum performance
keep telling yourself that my forever in training retard

> Also anaerobic cardio is better for heart health than aerobic cardio.
not by the wildest stretch of your imagination

Too weak to do basic bodyweight but you want him to lift?

The fuck?
If they can't do a push up then how in the fuck do you think they'll manage to lift the damnend bar.

>One mistake and you never lift again
Do DYELS actually, sincerely, legitimately believe this nonsense?

It is so laughably not true i dont even know where to begin.

I made a mistake deadlifting 410lb last training session.

You know what happened?
Nothing.
Not even a crick or twinge of pain.

The set directly after that was flawless, though.

I can take a week off training (just did on my birthday aug 5th) and feel no difference.

Literally none.

My sprint time didnt go down, my mma sparring sessions didnt get any better, no metric of fitness was increased.

My body has fully adapted to regular training stimulus.

Also aerobic cardio is literally the devil

>hurr getting your cardiorespiratory system to work near max capacity isnt as good as getting it to work near minimal capacity
Kys tard, that isnt how cardiorespiratory adaptation works.

Once again, everything you say is the opposite of true.

frogpost more, jelly salty dyel

Because chicks like being picked up during sex and i dont have to make multiple trips during grocery runs.

I can also likely beat the shit out of 90% of cardio fags and im a 6'3 170lbs otterfag

By assuming he weighs more than 80lb?

A 45lb bar is quite easy to lift, even for an untrained adolescent female

this is a very ignorant post

please never post here again

Frogposter maaaaad

What did i say that was untrue?

I will gladly educate you.

>i made a non fatal mistake therefor there aren't other simple mistakes that can end you
lol good lord you're retarded. if you're loading several hundred pounds up all it takes is your body veering off slightly for a career ending herniated disc.

see how many of those guys that have been around forever didn't fuck their shit up? arnold did. pendlay did. rip did. they staked their entire existences on lifting so of course they will tell you to do it.

if you can't throw a female across the room with zero weight training you're either a skeleton or you like landwhales

My body did verr off slightly.
Nothing happened.
That was my point.

Arnie did dumb shit and deserved to get shoulder snaps

Rip is a fat dyel who teaches snap-your-shit versions of olympic lifts.

Pendlay is also a fat dyel retard.

Sigmind klein did just fine.
Eugen sandow did just fine.

Hell even dorian yates did ok, and he trained with all the intensity humanly possible, on steroids.

Ronnie deserved to get snapped up to

Eddie hall is fine, tho.

And strong men are loose with form

An untrained person is 10000x more likely to get a herniated disc, than someone with a strong back

eddie hall is a circus freak. you looking to join the circus? i'm not.

Ok, what about literally every other strong man?

What about 99.999999% of people who regularly deadlift witout injury?

Disregard them, right?

prohint: you can train your entire body properly and easily without ever touching a weight all without any of the mental retardation and autism of lifting.

walking or jogging is incredibly good for your spine and heart.

you rarely see the victims because they don't come back. competitive lifting has a natural filter which keeps you from participating. what you see in strongman is the only ones left. everyone else snapped their shit up before competing. and old timers almost all deal with an abnormally large number of injuries every day.

Are you seriously implying that walking jogging is as good for your back as deadlifting and squatting?

okay im done

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it's fun to lift much weight

>What about 99.999999% of people who regularly deadlift witout injury?
and where did your mistakenly arrive at this conclusion from? you see how few people at the gym deadlift? hint: it's not because you're privy to some secret club knowledge.

America. You tell me, champ.

>walking or jogging
Hill sprints and barbell complexes are the only cardio you should ever do.

There are no bodyweight exercises even half as effective as the deadlift or squat.

There are no bodyweight exercises even a third as effective as ohp (inb4 muh handstand push ups, i could do that shit before i could ohp 1pl8)

There are no bodyweight exercises even a fourt as effective as push press.

There is no effective means for consistent, regular progressive overload with bodyweight training. Just shitty jumps to harder variations that may or may not allow for suboptimal methods of progression, and will definitely not allow optimum progression.

No bodyweight exercises are even an eighth as effective as a hip thrust.

I would be willing to bet money that you look like dyel garbage

Why do you play sports when you're not a competitive athlete?

Keep in mind, you will not become aesthetic any better from it that basic diet and exercise will achieve unless you roid as most competitive athletes do or are among the 1% genetically gifted.

All you're doing is increasing your chance of injury. Farming, manual labor and gardening strengthens an actually useful muscle better (you're heart) while also providing all the longevity benefits of weight training while simultaneously making it more realistic to achieve aesthetics without cheating/being gifted through better vascularity and lower body fat.

Next time pick up a hay bale instead of a basketball. Your test will increase more, you will have better hand to eye coordination which is actually useful in real life and you will feel far better every day.

No more wasted days recovering and fewer injuries. Keep in mind injury studies fail to include the fact that football, amercian football, rugby and basketball eliminates all but the oddly genetically gifted thus you only see an unrealistic representatio of injury rates.

I know this is bait, but I used to be really skelly and now I'm average, plus I can do normal things like carry groceries better. That's reason enough for me.

>shit i make up as i go along: the post
Fascinating stuff

Not sure if troll or legit retarded.

Outside of planet fatness, 90% of gymgoers deadlift

i'm implying that your back will become strong enough to protect against injury by being active. lifting an amount of weight far beyond what you would otherwise doesn't protect against anything other than lifting heavier and heavier weight which you will need now that you're artificially increasing your odds of snapping your shit in half for no reason

Dont believe you because i am from america.

Beta cuck nu males rule above violent "meat-heads"

>90% of gymgoers deadlift
ahahahaahaha lol bahahahahahhaha
okay fatty whatever you say

>walking will protect your back from walking
>deadlifting 500lb will protect your back from 500lb force
I choose option b

Well OK except guns are a thing...

Can only speak to my gym, but yea. 90% of males. Maybe only 5% females, because only 5% lift.

Pretty much every grill that lifts does dl for glute gains.

Pretty much ever guy that lifts, who isnt an uneducated dyel, also does dl.

> option a protects you with virtually no injury risk
> option b protects you with high injury risk
> i choose to cuck myself

>high risk
LMAOING @ ur life.

They both have almost no risk.

Walking is like .00001% risk
Deadlift with proper form is like .0001%

I will take that risk

Who says I don't have those, too?

walking is the most basic thing a human being learns

you realize that most lifters don't even deadlift outside of competitions/going for a pr after they reach a certain weight and break it down into parts because it takes so long to recover from?

lol i don't even lift and im less dyel than all you little meme victims in this thread right now

Anarchy is the default state of humanity. Enjoy being unprepared.

>picking things up is not a basic motor pattern you have evolved to do
...lol ok there buddy

> you need to deadlift 6 plates in order to clean up your room like your momma told you
lol moron

Shouldnt you be in
right now?

>we never evolved to pick anything up that weighs more than 10lb

Stay cucked.

Also 4pl8 is more resonable

As a manual laborer, i would get lumbar pain from a days worth of picking up and moving 35-50lb boxes.

Since deadlifting i have never had lumbar pain, and i pick up 90lb boxes by myself all day (the policy is 2 persons per 90lb box, but the boss allows me to do it myself, as he knows i can handle it)

Get shit on, fgt

i have no clue what kind of severely autistic life you lead where you're picking up more than 100lbs on top of your own body weight ever

even people who have jobs lifting heavy things they use multiple people, hand trucks and forklifts.

non competitive heavy lifters are a special kind of moron

> doesn't even know how to lift a 30lb box properly
> gives others lifting advice
lol lmfao

>hurr picking heavy things up is scary
>just jog instead
What is a weak dyel cuck like you even doing on this site?

1.never gave advice
2.was lifting with proper form, just had weak, untrained erectors spinae, because i didnt lift at the time

I am still pretty dyel, only deadlift 365x5

> i need to deadlift 6 plates in order to cleanup my room or pickup a box

exrx.net/WeightTraining/Safety.html

Sports Injury Rates (Hamill 1994)

Sport / Injuries (per 100 hours)

Weight Training 0.0035 (85,733 hrs)
Weightlifting 0.0017 (168,551 hrs)

USA Basketball 0.03
UK Cross Country 0.37

This is a cuckpost, op is a cuck

>i need fallacious straw manning as damage control, because my arguments got BTFO

yes, we already covered this. in non autistic sports you come back from injury and continue competing.

in extremely autistic circus freak type sports such as heavy lifting injuries are often so severe that a person never returns.

thus you only see circus freaks who rarely get injured competing in lifting whereas someone injury prone can easily have a full career with nothing more than a little talent in other sports.

I enjoy th feeling of getting stronger. It gives me a sense of achievement. Op will never know what its like to Bench, squat, deadlift, OHP heavy weights you were never able to get up before.

It gives you a dopamine rush to struggle to lift a weight, keep working on it for weeks if not months at times until suddenly the weight feels easier and you move to the next goal.