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yep. always had a good personality, so never was hard - but it has gotten better. now dumber girls value me more uppon just knowing me, and the girls who like my personality see me as a perfect boyfriend figure instead of just a nice guy who would make a nice boyfriend

Why the fuck did drawer use fake boobs?

i love how this board thinks that life is like a porn and that women will flock to them and initiate sex/a relationship without any effort on their part.

fucking morons.

Is that even a question?

If I wanted to laugh... One rep max

It's a work of fiction. The whole woman is fake.

>drawer

they like guys like me desu

No shit.
Fucking loser for lifting because of girls

Got laid in high school
Get more laid since I'm fit but ottermode compared to Veeky Forums standards

Do you mean you get more girls or that the girls you get are more eager to please?

Nope not one bit.

I always had a good looking face and they approach me just the same.

Now my ring on my finger since I got married that is a chick magnet for some reason.

This

Happens even more now that im married. And im only 5'7. Some hoes got no damn shame desu.

Yes.
I've never had that much attention on me before.
I cheated on my gf like twice in a week so far.

>tfw fucking itty bitty 9/10 high school slut tomorrow
>haven't jerked off in a week
>it's so close yet so far
>tfw she's never had BBC before
>tfw gonna shred that pussy

>Now my ring on my finger since I got married that is a chick magnet for some reason.

Because when they get shot down they can easily defend their ego with "well, he IS married."
Women fear rejection just as much, if not more, than men. They just have the cushy position of hardly ever having to approach someone.

o ye and they're sluts who gets off on cucking each other

Yes, they touch and stroke and kiss your body more while fucking

Yes

>nigger
>implying an actual qt girl would fuck a nigger
>its probably a nigger dwarf you're fucking

Veeky Forums How do you deal with or react to female attention after getting fit if, throughout school or even afterward, you were generally ignored or non-existent to women?

Yes.

literal /v/irgin until 20, started lifting at 21
now I'm 29 and my slutcount is over 150
in any case, a lot of it has to do with self-confidence, not only with looks.

ignore them back, or rather, politely blow them off

I had a casual conversation with some MILF at the gym and she was literally wet. Does that count

wow brah if true that's imbressive

lifting got me from 1 to 6... I ain't complainin

Why? Cause they're "shallow", mr. I won't talk to fat girls?

lel is that YBD?

lifting got me from 0 to 1, i aint complainin either bre

the problem isn't your social skills, the girls are only talking to you for the few minutes that Chad is busy so they don't look like they're being unsocial

the problem is that you were a sub8 that dared to talk to her in a flirty tone, which implies that you thought she is on the same looks level as you. and dragging her down to that level was simply too insulting.

as a subhuman, you are expected to make yourself invisible. talking to women makes your existence more offensive to her, and talking flirty was simply over the line.

what you should do next time as a subhuman: do not make conversation or eye contact, if she talks to you out of politeness buy her a drink to compensate her for having to look at you, then leave her alone afterwards

How do you meet these shoots

I'm at 10 but feel like I can't enjoy a relationship til I fuck a lot more girls. Just got out of one now gonna slay

we're all gonna make it!

What if I like pissing them off tho?

I lift hard. Smash the puss with deep thrust and make them very cum. Yes to muscle making me pussy magnet.

On the streets. I only started dominating after I realized that nightlife is the worst possible environment to flirt.

Shit like this convinces me that at least half of Veeky Forums has a dom fetish.

>BBC

They enjoy stealing and don't care who knows it.

> sweat

>I think it makes woman nervous, kinda makes you seem unapproachable.
Its your job to approach, but from you wrote we can assume you never had balls for it.

>when people think anything except biceps and deltoids are visible under clothes
Lifting won't get you laid.

Found the ugly faggot

Cunt

Posture, chest, shoulders, back, ect.

I don't think biceps/delts are nearly as important as posture/shoulders/chest, though.

You clearly have no chest

Nice inferiority complex there bruh. You probably don't even leave the house or talk to women. You're just projecting your own insecurities.

Haven't really seen a change. It all comes down to confidence, which I've always had, even when I was a 240 lbs. fat pile. I'm 160 now & have noticed some extra attention, but nothing too crazy. Girls have always gone complete slut on me.

but my brain gets healthier with the rest of my body

Not everyone has posture problems or posture that can be fixed by back exercises, it's a great change when you do though. Posture is all or nothing for me, I'm either standing straight or I'm before lifting when I hunched bad.

And no, no one can see your chest gains under clothes. People can't even see your back unless you're naked, shirtless and facing away from them, you trying to impress your boyfriend I guess?

I don't lift strictly for looks, I have a 8/10 face already. My chest was the first to grow, but I doubt anyone notices because the change is under my shirt and it's winter here.

Read philosophy.
Lift harder.
Mind/body connection for best lifts.

Yep.

Personality matters more though. Being good with words matters more than weights if you're looking to get laid. Even if you're movie star attractive, most girls won't go home with you if they don't feel comfortable.

How do I confidence senpai?
I get sweaty palms from just about all social interaction.

Most women decide pretty quickly if they're going to make it easier for the guy to find words or not, anyone can make things pretty awkward if you stare in silence with an awkward look whenever anyone says anything.

They most likely don't "decide" you moron. It's basic motivation.

If you're a fugly asshole, they won't be as motivated to play catch-up with your constant conversational faux pas as they would be if you were attractive or demonstrated some other sort of value to them.
This is a subconscious process sprung from evolutionary needs of prioritizing shit at the basest level, and affect all humans, male and female.

I put your virginal analysis at the same level of former fatties who discover women will engage them more now that they're not disgusting sacks of shit and therefore judge women to be shallow, as if its morally wrong to seek an attractive partner.

I'm actually pretty attractive, I have low body fat and high facial features.

I find the "other sort of value" phrase interesting, you're basically justifying the fact most women are somewhat gold diggers to an extent, aren't you? This is why men and women will always be treated differently.

Again you twist to your content. I didn't mention money at all.

What about personality, humor, social status, or any other shit you can come up with (evidently none) that women find attractive except looks?

Maybe the reason women will always be treated differently is because asshats like you insist on it.

Maybe you're just an autist who says stupid shit like you're doing right now.

Maybe you shouldn't fundamentally move focus from you saying awkward shit to others acknowledging it's fucking awkward.

No, women will be treated differently because they hold themselves to different standards and expect different standards. I'd bet no amount of humour, personality or "social status" (lol) could make up for being a complete NEET.

Meanwhile, not too many guys care when the girl they're dating is unemployed.

Or maybe you can shut up, cunt.

>"social status" (lol)
Really guy, putting a well-used and very real term in quotation marks and writing out "(lol)" afterwards doesn't do you any favors.
And no, being a NEET basically amounts to really shitty social status for most people, so that's kind of contradictory.

Many women are trying not to be held against a different standard, and you're sure as hell not making it easier assuming they maliciously pick and choose when to make conversation harder for you, and not assume they're under the same standards as human beings.
For a subject so loose as human psychology, motivation is a pretty well-researched area.

>Or maybe you can shut up, cunt.
He has a point y'know. I've had awkward pauses with both men and women, more often with women because I'm heterosexual and might get nervous when I try to pick chicks up, but seldom have I placed blame on others for not being gracious enough to let all of my fuckups slide right past unnoticed, and never have I ever plastered that shit on 51% of the human population.
That's just fucking stupid.

>Meanwhile, not too many guys care when the girl they're dating is unemployed.

Hey bro, remember the last couple of hundreds of years where men has been the breadwinner of the family in the western society?
Yeah, maybe that has left a lasting impression on what women (as a culture) find attractive in men. But idk.

No shit it's contradictory, it was yet another way you could refer to how much a guy makes whist pretending to yourself you weren't talking about money.

Admit it, money means more than "personality."

Sure thing, something that only grandparents actually remember totally has a strong effect on people within dating age today. No, the fact that Victorian society was repressive does not justify gold digging. Sorry.

I have experienced a strange phenomenom, i don't know if this makes me chad but here it goes

>be me
>see some girl with his orbiter being annoying around her
>this girl approaches me and start talking to me

>she deliberately start flirting to me to make sure the orbiter goes away and learns his lesson

if the orbiter doesn't really learns the lesson, then she will push it much more and start flirting vocally like "wow have big arms" or "do you lift weights or something?" until the orbiter goes away

when the orbiter goes away here comes the interesting thing, she starts being much less flirty and talk like a normal human being, so there you go and see what you can do but probably it will go much slower than you think

basically i have experienced that women use me to get rid of their betas through slutty flirting, but if i want to fuck her i need to start from 0 (i mean, not like in my animu things where i can fuck her already on day one, even if the flirting made it clear that she wanted it that way)

significantly more, sometimes due to the mere fact that I am ripped

next question

on the streets?

like you go to some girls in a park and try to flirt with them wtf

exactly right

>talks about clothes

>lives on a shitty ice hellhole

>Admit it, money means more than "personality."
What? That wasn't at all what I was saying.

I don't think being wealthy (who even started talking about this?) is such a big deciding factor as you believe, but actually having employment and economic stability is without a doubt a big factor.
Saying social status weighs more than not having a fucking income is what I was saying is contradictory, since being NEET is literally considered lowest on the social ladder, isn't it?

To some people money means more than personality (and pretty much everything in life), but far from a majority. This goes for both women and men.

And jesus man, you really don't think our culture, the one our grandparents taught our parents who taught us, is affected by what our grandparents (or THEIR grandparents) culture looked like?
So our generation just went "hey, totally unrelated to previous generations, ours will demand the man pay for the meal"? Stuff like that doesn't make you think at all? Ever read a book on anthropology or psychology m8? Even the wiki?

But to get back on topic: no, women as a group probably don't maliciously choose not to make conversation easy with you just for fun.

What the actual fuck are you talking about mang? The attitude men should be more career goaled than women is cemented as fuck to this very day and probably will be for decades to come. This isn't something only our grandparents dealt with.

I just come for the memes i dont work out

>Sure thing, something that only grandparents actually remember totally has a strong effect on people within dating age today. No, the fact that Victorian society was repressive does not justify gold digging. Sorry.

This is probably one of the most ignorant and stupid-ass comments I've read today.
Yes user, the human reinvents their entire culture every time it is born, just like the octopus abandoned to solitude by the parents in the sea.

"Man as provider" is pervasive within our culture today and shows no signs of stopping. Women have the option of pursuing careers or not, men really don't if they want to be considered valuable in the dating market.

Recent study showed that unemployed or underemployed men in a marriage was a huge factor in the female initiation of divorce. And while I don't have any data on it it's not small secret that girls are going for the high earning men first in the dating scene.

One of the reasons why there is a "wage gap" is because guys know they absolutely need to be pulling cash in order to achieve their best "value" so to speak and provide for their future families, women have no such impetus.

I like it when people who are "disagreeing" end up posting supportive posts. Yes, so can we agree NEET is basically the worst thing you could be? No matter what you look like, act like, how tall, how strong, how "attractive," as a NEET no girl will ever want to be your boy friend.

And it's all because you don't have money.

If you think modern western culture is anything like Victorian era culture... Shit why are you calling me ignorant? It's not? They didn't have electricity, birth control or rampant feminism that's put gender quotas in virtually every career.

Now you're just trolling bro.

Being NEET (Not in Education, Employment, or Training) is vastly different from being wealthy.
In the western society, you NEED an income for life not to be extremely difficult. I wouldn't date anyone that would potentially make our common life extremely difficult by putting an economic strain on us.

Having at least a minimum of resources to live on, clothes on your body and not being a fucking burn victim is more important than being a funny guy when it comes to forming a relationship, yes. What is your fucking point? All women are golddiggers who mess with your head for fun?

And you can see no similarities at all to Victorian era gender rolls and today's? Just the mere fact that there are "rampant feminism that's put gender quotas in virtually every career" should give you a clue. Maybe it was a reaction to something and not just a spontaneous phenomenon.

I've read this conversation twice now and can't figure out what the fuck you are arguing.

That women prefer someone with at least a basic income than a hobo, and that's somehow morally wrong?
Didn't this start off with you being bitter and thinking women make conversation intentionally difficult for you?
You're sounding all kinds of virginal.

>And it's all because you don't have money.
What a fucking moron you are when you can't differentiate between having loadsa money and having ANY money at all.

There is no fucking way you yourself can be satisfied with your argument that women are gold digging whores just based on the premise that no one wants to date a destitute person.

An athletic body looks different in clothes than a wreck. You can forget Veeky Forums's autistic attention to detail but your general shape - broad shoulders, nice ass, athletic legs (not t-rex) make a world of difference even in clothes. This also affects the way you move which is one of the ways potential mates gauge youthfulness and is a deciding factor in determining if they are attracted to you.

Nope.
My face isnt good enough and im not rich enough to attract sloots

Stop. Just stop this shit you Veeky Forums autists. Women love confidence. Be confident. I fucked lots of gals when I was a fat 220. I still fuck lots of girls at 175. I had a fuck buddy offer and deliver me a three some last night with her girl friend. Why? Because I'm confident and have learned how to actually make women cum. All you need is some semblance of physical fitness, confidence and the ability to go up to women and talk to them. Period. Only dudes judge solely on body, so if you think all those roids and a perfect body are what gets women, you're sadly mistaken. You'll still reek of assbergers and desperation. Grow some confidence and fuck bitches.

>that is a chick magnet for some reason

Friend of mine said to me to put the fake ring and it`ll work like magic. I believe him. Part of me thinks - why not, who cares. Another part says - you are lying to yourself with this ring, you insecure faggot. Small lie leads to bigger lie. And I don`t want to lie neither to person neither to myself.

doesnt work. im actually married with a real ring.
women MIGHT prefer a taken man in thier hearts but who wants to fight with the missus for that?
certainly not 99% of women

Another reason to work on my shit. Not hoping for placebo effect.

one of these i heard is get a female friend to kiss you with lipstick on before you go out

never tried it out

I'm starting to get to the edge of women physically flirting with body movements and positioning.

But nothing else for now. I'm not good enough yet to have verbal flirting

He didn't know how to draw the properly. Notice how he also tried to place their hands into poses that are the most easiest to draw.

>If you think modern western culture is anything like Victorian era culture... Shit why are you calling me ignorant? It's not? They didn't have electricity, birth control or rampant feminism that's put gender quotas in virtually every career.

Go forth my black son. Do what must be done.

Post the rest of this.

you need to do 50+ repetitions of social interaction a day

Works for me.

I'm thinking they see you as unavailable so think you wont try and fuck them but then they end up trying to fuck you once they get to know you since talking to each other was very easy since both parties werent in it just for sex.

t.feminist

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