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Non-steroidfag here.

Have steroids helped or harmed you?

both

Do the pros outweigh the cons or vice versa?

I actually haven't weighed myself in a while, not really fussed on composition atm while I'm just trying to get leaner. I haven't needed to in a long time due to glycogen depletion and being very lax on weight training so numbers will be skewed, it'll be an interesting few days while I normalise everything after extreme dieting.

Anadrol will keep you full, it's obviously quite good for combating catabolism. I've been very wary of catabolism in the past, but now I'm somewhat at the stage where I'm ready to sacrifice a bit of LBM if it means I can re-establish a good training pattern and diet sooner to regrow it.

I'd say the pros have vastly outweighed any cons. I haven't had any major issues due to steroids alone.

I can't even imagine living the natty life anymore

wish I could b&c but I travel way too often for weeks at a time

You're going to look so full after that refeed lol
I love glycogen rebound

I need to be full for the test on my leg in a week
I think I'm going to start on 100ish adrol and carb load for a few days before, get nice and full

def dirty bulked a lil too much last blast lol

overall beneficial
all the bad effects are my own damn fault

test undecanoate will last you 10 weeks between injections

what do you guys think about extremely low doses (even lower than the pastebin's cruise reccomendation)

i.e. 150-200mg blast 100-150 cruise (Test)

I felt disgusting after the refeed week, I feel like whatever glycogen I gained came with twice that much as water.

What happens when your leg is g2g?

100mg got me to 800 ng/dl
not necessarily worth it if youre not low test

just need some winny
buy my winny lol

I'd rather look full and a lil bloofy that flat and dry

I'll be able to do cardio again after my leg heals from the surgery
maybe squat again depending on my knee
Atleast I'll be able to do light squats no matter what

Just got a bunch of tb500, mod grf, and ghrp2. I'll run that for my knee

Should gain an easy 10-20 lbs once I can actually do legs again, my calves look like an anorexics

tfw starting tren this week

150mg/week would put you at the top of the natty range, or a bit beyond it depending on how you respond. But there wouldn't really be any point in "blasting" 200mg, just cruise at around 150 if you're gonna do low dose.

so generally its a waste and a bad idea

thanks brehs

If you could go back in time and redo your first year doing steroids, what would you change?

Curious natty here.

Long ester testosterone might help depending on your travel times. I used to play professional level rugby so I used very short esters exclusively due to testing so I haven't explored past Enanthate length of esters.

Depends. Even low levels will be better than natural - studies have shown that even a level:level replacement with exogenous testosterone is better than natural due to no fluctuations. People do extreme cuts on 150mg testosterone with very little/no catabolism for reference.

Blasting - not really worth it.

Winny isn't fun, I've used it and enjoyed it... but epistane is much, much nicer.

What's your plan with the peptides?

Run lower doses over longer periods, use synergistic compounds, and work incessantly towards one goal rather than try and accomplish multiple just because I'm enhanced. I've had fantastic results at 175mg Test/250mg Mast/250mg Tren over 20 weeks. I've also done my 1g Tren blasts.

Given that I primarily used them to get better at rugby, I had different goals in mind at the time of course. I didn't have or need strong 1RM's to begin with, but I fairly well threw everything into the pot to try and get maximum results, trying to get bigger, leaner, stronger, fitter etc. all at once. I started with 600mg/wk Test Prop, eventually morphed into Test/Mast/Tren/Dbol when I stopped playing rugby and branched into bodybuilding.

I would have been better off using the above lower dose TMT and trying to do one thing at a time.

How far can you get running only Test with occasional oral or deca?

go for long term growth instead of trying to match old prs as fast as possible
thats really blasting, id done trt doses for a while before that

5mg tb500 per week for 6 weeks
run with saturation doses 3x per day of ghrp and mod grf-2, save any left over for joint health on next blast

I cant decide how long after the surgery to run it though
dont feel like doing it right after

Pretty far if your diet and training doesn't suck.

Pretty far. Some people suggest running 250mg/wk for indefinite periods of time, if your goals allow it I definitely agree that this will be more than enough for most people. Adding in higher doses of test, an oral or another injectable will be fantastic.

HI I'M BRICK

kek is he still getting shit for being a fashion expert?

I know this is individual as fuck but could you ever end up looking good enough that you look like an obvious roider or would you merely be quite a bit ahead of natties simply?

The 250mg/wk thing sounds legit. That's like $200/year and doesn't seem like it'd even cause any real sides from what I've been reading. I really want to start but I'm just worried about not being able to buy for a while or forever then losing all gains

On that dose, it's possible. Given that a high level natty will look like an obvious roider to some, sure.

1 vial of Testosterone Enanthate at 250mg/wk will last you 10 weeks. You may need a very low dose of AI or something to prevent gyno if you're very sensitive to estrogen (I mean, very) and it'd be prudent to have the compounds for a a full PCT protocol on hand as well if required. Sides will be individual but likely non-existent.

> The guys on roids are the only Veeky Forums subpopulation with decent taste in women

No muscle-girls or fat chicks usually

True but I'm just sketched about the whole "ordering drugs from people online" thing

Just something about injecting oils and taking pills made by some guy from the internet seems offputting. How did you guys get over it?
>tfw scared that they put bleach in the vial instead and kill you

I wish this shit was just purchasable from a pharmacy so I knew it was legit and didn't need to send BTC to Somalia

>no muscle-girls

thats literally all capitalist posts

heres a god-tier girl though

test

yes anime girls are very cute.

I've literally mailed a bunch of money to some dude before
some of the best ugl stuff I've gotten actually lol
actually had pressed tabs for orals

stop posting

It's not the legality or getting scammed part

It's the injecting unknown shit from a nameless, faceless guy on the internet part... I just can't get over that

anybody have any more pictures of bimbo saved? pls post

One week into my blast of 1 gram test and deca. I had ordered dbol but first vendor cancelled and second vendor accidently shipped a more expensive unrelated drug (alphabay)
Told him not to worry about it an left good feedback.
checked mail today and he sent me the dbol anyway.
30 tabs of 40mg
Should i go ahead and take the dbol or just save it for a later blast?

you could homebrew
the chemicals are still coming from someone you dont know though

I don't know. I was traveling for work for a few weeks.

Well at that point I might as well buy it from some dude since he'll probably have a better method of brewing and better raws than I could

I'm just sketched about it all. I can imagine now "Local young man dies after injecting internet chemicals brewed by Tanzanian criminal". Or going to the hospital and explaining you injected unknown chemicals

Why can't it just be legal and pharma, why is it fair that cigarettes and alcohol is legal

>tfw you like every girl on tinder until there are no more people
So this is how being a thirsty nigga feels like, I see...

>gsl bw with tastosis
damn this is nostalgic

if youve got the ai for it you could
but personally dbol + 1g test/eq didnt work out so well, needed too much ai

cause "MUH SPORTS"
its dumb

thats actually really bad for business, killing off customers
just something youll have to come to terms with I guess

Guess ill take the plunge soon... just got all these weird thoughts running through my head each time I'm one step from ordering

I agree with this so much. 300 test 400 eq 300 deca for 9 months got me more than 1g test 800 deca did for 3 and I felt a lot better, bloods looked better, dick worked better.

...

I mean certainly put alot of time into finding a good source

I did, seems to be best source in Canada but I'm still scared

Its counterproductive for a source to fuck you over and have contaminants in the bottle.

I think the worst thing that can happen is that you get underdosed gear which, being your first cycle, you may not even notice.

My only advice is just to run a standard cycle 500mg test e or something, if you get anxious and try to run a lower dose you will still shutdown hpta with less gains.

I have a NSFW webm of that girl in the shower, the source of which I have been looking for. Sauce?

I know man but there's just so much shit that can go wrong. I guess you just have to take the risk then...

Do you guys order the shit to your house btw? It's not illegal to possess in Canada but giving your address and name seems sketchy

I moved back home since I started studying and have ordered 2 full cycles and all related pct to my name at my address.

The source I use does not use tracking, no signature and deletes shipment details immediately after sending. It actually made it really fucking hard once when I didn't get my package because he had no way of knowing if he had sent it.

At the end of the day its just a brown box with nothing written on it and bubblewraped vials and if it gets confiscated its not possession and its not a quantity large enough to have intent to distribute.

Guess I'm worrying for nothing... okay next sale I'm ordering this shit guys

>internet chemicals brewed by Tanzanian criminal

hey now, Darweshi brews some fine tren. sure he may be considered a "criminal," but tazmanian law varies different from our laws. in our eyes the crime he "committed" wouldn't be a crime here.

Tanzania has a GDP per capita under $700

Fucking crazy, I wonder what living there is like

She's a camwhore on mfc. Not hard to find her if you check the site every now and then, she's always around the top.

no idea about her, but feel free to post more.

I buy it to my apartment, in a much stricter country than yours.

Appreciate the answers thanks.

Grandpa died today. I feel like shit.

I lost my father exactly 1 year ago, you need to keep going user no matter how hard things get.
Cheers.

still alive even if my liver probably looks like the end result of a full 12 round title fight with tyson

slightly less pale, poorer, sand in unspeakable places, and my dick is so worn out it regrets having any place in my decision making processes

probably a good thing classes start soon, easier to focus on gym and career gains when you don't have the time to follow your dick's every whim

hi, I'm some random skinnyfat dyel that thinks ck is high fucking fashion

go eat a bag of dicks

pls teach my fashion and dick punishment gains

Mom died when I was nine, 12 years ago this October. I've been kinda emotionally numb since. What's fucking me up most is how hard my brothers are taking it, especially compared to me. I loved the man. I loved him as much as I've loved anybody in my life. I find out he's dead and it barely affects me. Getting drunk so now the whole thing is kinda fuckin me up.

Any of you guys try DMZ?

Where the fuck have you been?

Which one?

Dymethazine is an amazing drug. The blend product has changed over it's various incarnations.

My buddy and coworker ran a few cycles of it, said it was incredible.

I want to push my natty as far as I can though, since I'm a newfag.

No idea what specific blend or whatever he's getting, but he's got a few fat stacks of the caps.

Most likely he's got the Dymethazine + Methylstenbolone combo. He might also have the newer version which has both of those plus 1-Alpha which is a precursor to M1T.

Very potent drug. Msten alone is powerful, Dymethazine alone is also strong, M1t is potent even at low doses so whatever the conversion rate is, I imagine it'll still be strong.

I'll keep my cards close on this one, I know sides are unavoidable and the ones on DMZ don't seem all that out there. Once I get my lifts to novice-intermediate levels I'll consider working something in, but I'm only six weeks into SL.

IS it weird that I recognize those tattoos from a porno?

they really addedd m1t (kinda)?

jesus
I hope the filler is tudca

speaking of

I need to find another source who'll make custom orals for me. My last friend made them with bioperine and N-acetyl-cysteine as the filler, I want that back

What's Veeky Forums's opinion on Clenbuterol?

Anyone used it? Any advice?

Most advise against it, some are neutral, all agree it's not game changing. I assume since you're asking then you are new/naive so I recommend not touching it.

Few questions;
>are they detectable on urine test for us military?
>would a cycle raise suspicion if im a fat guy?
>how hard is it to pin yourself?
>if im a beginner in weight lifting should I even bother?

only if they specifically order it
no because who would notice
not hard at all
no

I'm one of very few who like it.

It's not a 'take it any change nothing and you'll get shredded' drug like DNP or high doses of tren. You need to be able to influence catecholamine output and not get carried away with the doses because you stop getting shakes.

Take in the morning, fast for a few hours to begin with. Don't go stupidly high carb on it or it'll have little effect.

1) No idea about US military tests, unlikely but I don't want to give the wrong impression
2) probably not, but get lean before you start blasting
3) Very easy.
4) no.

I really liked it for the last part of my cut, I tend to tolerate the sides of alb and clen really well tho. Some people have it way worse.
Just use it 1 week on 1 week off for a couple weeks, don't use it for more then a month or two or the tiredness once you really get off will last a while. Also just save it for the last part of your cut.
Just start low at 20mcg and increase 20mcg everyday if sides are tollerable, don't go over 120mcg a day. The second cycle you run it you can probably start at 60mcg the first day maybe more.
Apart from the fat cutting property clen also has some anti catabolic effect so apart from burning more you could also cut a little more drastically. Like 800kcal below tdee

HIVE custom made me high dose var with piperine, might be worth a try.

What are usually a decent amount of test to cruising at?
And should i start cruising right after i finished my first blast of test?

I just finished a 12 week 500mg Test E per week cycle. I ate everything i saw and gained a lot, but also a lot of fat. How long should i wait post-cycle before I cut to retain as much lean mass as I can?

150mg - 250mg

Oh fuck really? I need to give them a shot. Fuckers sold out of T3 before I had a chance to buy up too.

I would've cruised on a low dose to cut before going off, personally. Now you're going to starve off half of your gains in a less than ideal hormonal state.

The answer - get bloods done to ensure you're back to normal levels and then you can cut.

idk if its relevant, but Ive had very minimal sides. Been running 12.4mg exemestane e3d and have nolva for PCT

you retards all look like lobsters

get that blood pressure under control

Something like 250mg p/w? I still have some left over so I could probably throw something like that in

asking out of curiosity.
At what %bf you started your cycle, and what is it now that you finished?

Sure, that'll do fine. Don't end a cycle fat.

Have fun wanting to stick your Dick in everything.

I gotta order from them this time round
Tren and more test to last me to (maybe) the end of the year

post the webm on gif and cross post it here?

nevermind here's her ig
instagram.com/coralinnecr/?hl=en

Can I dissolve asin in BAC water for microdosing instead of cutting it up?

E3D or E4D seems dumb for something with a 24 hour half life

search PetiteMarie on tpb to see her lezzing out with another camwhore in the shower and other masturbation vids

hey its me ur brother
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It's hard to judge because im so bloated currently.
i started ~14%, maybe a bit lower, and ended around ~18% maybe? I definitely ate a bit much, but it's my first cycle and I was scared of not making any gains. Lesson learned for sure.

Thanks man.

How much weight did you get after your cycle?
Do you have any pics before/after?
Just curious, cause i'm planning to do my first cycle aswell of 500 mg/week

I gained maybe ~10kg in the first 6 weeks, probably mostly due to water retention. I'm extremely bloated in my lower stomach and face. Overall in the cycle I gained maybe ~16kg. I'm not sure how much is water and how much is fat/muscle, I guess I'll find out soon enough.

My partner on the exact same cycle (but eating less, going for more of a recomp than a bulk) also gained ~10kg

Im on test E and it took until maybe week 6 for me to notice any considerable strength gains/sides. As long as you have an AI sides should be very easy to manage.

I have before pics, but I wont post them because I'd 100% get flamed as I probably shouldve lifted for longer before cycling.

Overall I have no regrets, it was fun and I put on a some decent size. Im excited to cut and see some definition, or at least lose some of this bloat. Also i felt a lot more confident, and it allowed me to break my 3 year dry streak.

10/10 would recommend steroids

UK bros, do you get your gear online or do you buy it in the gym?

online mate, unless you really trust the guy in the gym

Thanks, how careful do you have to be when looking online, places like eroids seem sketchy to me; is r/sst or even the dark Web markets the place to go? Or can you literally purchase it easily online

Yeah he's 6'5

tfw he will be bigger than me. His genetics are really sick. He didn't lift for weeks and he's still bigger than most people over here that bnc.

That's stupid Jerry

I think dianabol is best for kickstart(mass builder)

1-4 30mg dianabol
1-14 500mg test-e

Shes.
Fucking,
Pregnant.
Test just confirmed, ive never been happier

sst is always good although most labs are based in the USA, i go darknet personally but you can get good stuff from sst

always research the brand/lab before buying anything, just check a few forum posts to see that people aren't reporting it's underdosed or anything

generally i buy all my PCT stuff from eroids sites