Im doing no porn + no fap

Im doing no porn + no fap

Wish me luck, brehs. Im tired of the endless discussion so I'll see by myself how much my gains improve.

They will not. The increase in testosterone is negligible.

The only reason for nofap and no porn is because it actually makes it harder to cum eventually. Totally srs, it can desensitize you towards actual intimacy. I had to stop because It took over an hour just to cum once fucking my very attractive SO, completely focused on the feeling too, which would've made me bust a nut much easier earlier in my life.

Totally srs. It's a little more sensitive now but porn + fapping makes it damn near impossible to bust a nut having sex.

Just do noporn my man, the abundancy of porn today fucks with male brains. The only gains you'll see are psychological thought, which is nothing to scoff att desu.

Jerking off is fine just do it a couple times a week max. Porn is the killer here.

That is one reason of many, and not even the primary reason for doing noporn.

They will. Problem is that without an outlet like exercise and a hobby or doing something very involved you'll end up being an overly emotional mess.

Need something to pour the energy egression and focused emotions into. If not, you'll just exlplode.

So then what would be the primary reason?

To feel better in every way, to gain self-control, and to reset your sexual clock back to something normal.
And to prevent an enlarged prostate later in life.

dick lobbyists out in full force. don't let them sway you op, nofap is the way to go.

For me personally? It brings back your drive. For millions of years men have been bred to compete for women, bettering ourselves to overcome the rest. When you take the cheap road of tricking yourself into being satisfied with porn you are robbing yourself of an incredible amount of motivation. Now I don't live my life to please women, nor would I recommend any of you to do so also but we all instinctively have that element in our minds and it would just be a waste not to take advantage of it.

All of the benefits of nofap come from noporn unless you're relying on nofap to stop you from jerking off 5 times a day which is obviously just retarded. Also what the fuck is a dick lobbyist

fuck off Big Dick shill. nofap gives you more time in your day, more self control, and gives sad saps motivation to go out and get puss. what's next? colluding with Big Pharma for special penis pills? step the fuck off

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shes fucking cute huh

I love the people arguing about nofap/noporn
>mfw I'm on nofap, but I'm doing pe
>jelq in shower as warmup
>use velco to restrict bloodflow to my dick and edge to porn
>do this 3-5 x 5 min, 2-4 times a week or whenever horny
>mfw lifts are way up
>mfw dick is almost .5in thicker in total in almost 4 months
God is good

Had similar here - got in bed with a girl or two recently and just could not perform. Half mast on both occasions, and I watch porn + fap daily.

After going cold turkey on porn, does anyone have any idea how hard it is to fap without? Pun absolutely intended.

nofap is a jewish trick so you'll more easily be susceptible to the powers of women

gayfap and trannyfap is the true path of enlightenment where you no longer fall prey to the succubus

t. someone who finally has the mental clarity to tell women to fuck off instead of lusting for sex like jews want

>more time in your day
So you are jerking off 5 times a day? I did say that fapping a couple times a week max was completely fine, abstaining from it entirely is just unnecessary.

>motivation to get puss
>more self control
Noporn is the primary contributor to these

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just do noporn.....

>actually jelqing

oh friend please don't do this, you'll get that broke dick

You have to just avoid the two entirely for as long as you can, then once you can't resist any longer jerking off without porn should be easy then just keep repeating to cut down on how much you jerk off.

nofap killed my dick seriously...

>confusing all this retarded shit with basic psychology

noporn doesn't give that same feeling of wanting to fuck everyone you meet tho

happened to me

legit made it smaller (it shriveled up)

can you go into more detail on the jelq thing? i've got a pencil dick

I wonder though, is it the regular jerking or the porn which does the most damage? I'm happy sticking to jerking it maybe three times a week so long as I don't have the porn.

I think i have a pornstar tier cum shot but i have no way to tell without a female

this desu nofappers have this idea that if u dont fap you become more desperate and are willing to fuck ugly bitches because they need to nut lmaoo.

Jelqing is all over the internet. Basically, take your 30-50% erect dick and lube it up. Do an okay sign with your hand, and starting at the base of your cock you squeeze the okay sign and pull forward, milking your dick. People see good results with that, but I do it as a warm-up as I've been doing pe for a long time.
Now, I do clamping which is very advanced, but I've seen great results in the girth department.
Do some research on jelqing, I'm up almost 1.2" in girth, but I've been doing it off and on for about 4 years now and I'm near my limits.
>tfw 6.9" length and 4.1" girth starting
>literal pencil

any loss of sensation? do you have to keep doing it to maintain the size?

Porn is exactly what makes you uninterested in regular females. Don't forget we are also programmed to have sex as much as possible. If you're only jerking off a couple times a week you're still be quite interested in chicks. Starving your dick entirely will of course make your more desperate.

Honestly though I only 100% recommend noporn over nofap because these things are a major addiction like any other. Don't forget half these kids are 5 hours a night deep in trap porn or some other deep fetish so just giving them this flat wall of "stop everything" is an almost impossible task. The overall goal of noporn is of course to limit jerking off as much as possible.

Porn without question. Having a lot of sex won't destroy you. Jerking off to a lot of porn will.

Really hard to say on the sensation; my dick head almost has a fucking callous, and has since as long as I can remember (cut). If anything, it's helped, because stretching has helped add some uncutness back into my life, but there's plenty of testimonials. So, personally, no loss, but I may be a unique case.

Yes, and no. It's like lifting, where once you're a size it's easier to keep that relative size (maybe a bit smaller) as long as you do something, anything. So, yes, you do have to keep doing stuff, but you'll probably be fine with pulling on your dick once or twice a week in the shower for 5 min.

I've gone a year in between and seen no loss in size, but I was regularly masturbating at the time.

thanks for the info user, started to feel self conscious about being a pencil recently, though it hasn't bothered me in the past and neither has it hindered relationships... dunno why it's suddenly started to bother me but it's on my mind a lot

Georgia?

did nofap for 15 days
killed my fucking dick shit had me thinking i had erectile disfunction nofap is hella bullshit...
fapped to get my dick right now fap once a day and my dick is good as new. i don't watch porn tho shit gay af and it unplugs you from reality. im a hoe getting a girlfriend is dead... Hit it and quit it ma niggas

Jesus fuck, stop posting Aryans I need to get laid

Speak normally you retarded fuck

Jesus Christ. You /pol/ browsing autistic "iron pill" fags are fucking insufferable.

It's not due to "low confidence", it's not because of "a lack of masculine role models", IT'S JUST BEING AWARE OF WHERE YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING STAND.

Non-Chad men are not SUPPOSED to reproduce.This is why shyness exists - it's not something you're supposed to OVERCOME, it's MEANT to limit you.

In the past the betas revolted and created religion/marriage, but even then it wasn't natural and women cheated with Chad (even when the consequence was LITERAL EXECUTION, they STILL chose Chad).

But yeah, go ahead and "abstain from degeneracy". It won't stop Chad from fucking your oneitis then jacking off after it.

Not spanking the monkey won't give you super powers you retard. Nofap is a way fat neckbeards found to make a "positive change" in their lives without actually making any real effort. And all they do in the end is kill their sex drive and add to their chance of getting prostate cancer.

No porn is legit not because of some voodoo magic, but because it makes you realize porn is nothing but an overdone fantasy and all those weird fetish are actually detrimental to your sexual health.

Why do we still get these stupid threads?

So nobody has ever changed their attractiveness/social standing and are just condemned to what ever they were born as? Look I know you're just some trolling faggot but please make your arguments a little more believable. Also why haven't you killed yourself yet?

god i know i should stop replying to b8 but this is literally projection: the post

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I've been doing nofap and noporn for over a month.

Noporn is real, we know this. super stimulation etc etc

But I think the main benefit of nofap is simply telling yourself 'no I will not do this'

Having one urge that your body wants, but to which you are able to say 'no' to, changes your entire perspective on what you should or should not be doing at a given time.

A quote from Epictetus: "Our desires and aversions are mercurial rulers. They demand to be pleased. Desire commands us to run off and get what we want."

Most people can't escape the idea that 'i want something, therefore i should have it'

But nofap easily allows you to separate those two things: "I want it" and "i should have it"

By separating those two things, you are able to see desire for what it is: a feeling, an urge, but not necessarily one that needs to be filled.

This translates to other parts of your life. I want to eat a box of rasinettes, but maybe i shouldn't. Most people never reach basic level of self-knowledge/self-mastery.

Honestly, the idea of endlessly attempting to fulfill the same desires for food or sex until the day I die sounds boring to me.

These days, I actually find pleasure in the desiring part. Mouth watering, being hard af. These things feel good. They hurt because I lack the thing I want, but they also feel good by imagining and tasting a little of the pleasure that could be. As many of us know, anticipating is often more pleasureable than consummation.

Maybe I'm just cucking myself, although I see it more in terms of delayed gratification for greater pleasure. The more I think about desire, the more it's a game I just don't want to play.

I find after doing nofap, I like doing other little self-mastery challenges. Like when I'm out to dinner and they put bread on the table, I eat one tiny piece. I get the taste, I'm hungry and I want the bread, but I don't eat it. And every time I do that, I train my self-control muscles. But maybe I'm autistic.

why is she cring

same guy here. just thought I'd riff a bit more.

I've been getting more and more into asceticism recently. The word asceticism comes from the Greek word for the physical training regimen that the Olympians underwent. So It's not unusual that we are discussing it here on Veeky Forums

I can't decide which trait is more universal among humans: fear or laziness.

It's important not to forget what we could do if only cared even a little, if only we gave a fuck.

Here is one story that inspires me to think differently about my life. It's about Christian saint (i'm not religious) named Simeon the Stylite.

He was a monk, an ascetic, who lived on the top of a 50 ft column on a 1m x 1m uncovered platform. He would pray all day and night up there and never come down. He lived up the FOR 47 FUCKING YEARS. Just doing nothing but praying (and doing exercises, actually). Summer, winter, rain, now etc. On a small platform outside. for 47 fucking years! Until he died! Up there! After that, many other people did the same thing. blows my mind.

obviously he's fucking crazy, probably would be diagnosed as autistic or aspergic today, but it just reminds me what people can do if only they cared.

Still, is that a good life? I think the most powerful critique of asceticism is that the ultimate ascetic is nothing and does nothing. He has destroyed all his desires and urges and is at, supposedly, still.

A man like this must see life as a mistake, a path on which you took the wrong turn and now must walk back from. I'm just not ready to bite that bullet.

Thanks for reading.

who fed him though? and how many scoops did they give him?

some little kid from the village would use a rope to raise some bread and goat cheese or whatever up in a basket to him. idk how many scoops, but he definitely left humanity behind.

> But maybe I'm autistic.

i know we throw the term autistic around a lot on Veeky Forums

but this is seriously one of the most autistic things ive ever seen posted on this website, and I mean even compared to cum bottles and fleshlight collections.

either that or you're very young and just getting into the whole self-awareness thing that kicks off at about 18-19 years old.

its like if somebody projectile diarrhea a bunch of ideas onto a canvas, and then adapted it to the screenplay of American Psycho where he talks about his morning routine.

its an amazing combination of: autism, masturbation, and retardation.

in short: reads like a school shooter diatribe