THE ONLY MOTIVATION YOU'LL EVER NEED BRAHS

>lives in the 21st century
>doesn't make use of 21st century technology

wow ur so cool and straight edge ;^)

The problem with Adderall is that it's a quick fix.

If you can't focus without it that means there's greater problems to solve at hand, and you'll be worse off than you started from as soon as you get off the meds.

Adderall is okay to coast through while you know the cause of your problems and you know you can get over them with a period of drug use, but just going blind into life thinking "Aw yeah, motivation in a pill!" is just going to make you into a junkie with ADHD. Or worsen it, if you already have it.

You don't know anything you are talking about

>If you can't focus without it that means there's greater problems to solve at hand

Alright I understand, but the case most often is someone wants to focus better, and/or be more sociable/elated

>but just going blind into life thinking "Aw yeah, motivation in a pill!" is just going to make you into a junkie with ADHD

Alright I understand again, but pretty black and white there. You don't get ADHD you either have it or you don't and it's often diagnosed in young age.

One can use different substances responsibly

You said I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about, then conceded on all of my points.
Make up your mind.

And of course Adderall doesn't make you get literally ADHD, but the withdrawal symptoms are notorious for a reason.
Not to mention, regular use leads to even FURTHER reduction in focusing capabilities compared to before taking the drug.

If you're taking it as a novelty and limiting it to like once a month, that's fine.
But if you take it in actual therapy doses, deluding yourself into thinking you're becoming a better person, you're in for a rude wake up call when whatever reason (kidney failure, dealer bailing on you, whatever) makes it impossible to continue the dosage.

If you need a crutch to reach a higher point in your life, that's fine. But you have to let go of it before your legs atrophy.

got a script for this shit and I haven't touched it in months. sitting on 90 pills in my medicine cabinet

>take 10mg a day for month
>everything is cool
>take a break from it to don't build tolerance
>decide to use it to help study for an exam
>15mins of after swallowing it body starts feeling weird
>random cold flashes in my body
>start having a hard time breathing and think im about to heavy a heart attack
> my heart pounding like a mothafucker
>about to say fuck it and call 911
>run to my kitchen and eat 4 aspirins and drinking shit ton of water
>flashes stop happening but i still feel like uber shit
>lay in bed all day hoping I turn to normal
Haven't touched the shit since. think I had an anxiety attack but that shit was scary and I wouldn't wish it on my enemy

what about for those of us that actually have diagnosed ADHD and require meds

My friend/roommate at the time had a psychotic breakdown from it, granted he took waaaay too much. Shit was nuts

I'd be more worried about the negatives to the heart and nervous system.
While it has obviously less carcinogens than smoking, the constant elevated heart rate and neural stimulation can be worst than smoking.
Resting heart rate would be the same as an obese person.

Fucks up your dopamine receptors. After a while everything becomes dull even while on it. Dont do adderall, serious.

take moar. atleast 20 mg and you will be on top of the world.

just the thread that I wanted, well kinda. But I was browsing

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today

and then examined.com it

>80mg of a bioavailability enhanced curcumin supplement has been reported to increase nitric oxide in serum by 40% or so, which is significantly larger than many other dietary supplements.

and then googled what the fuck it changes

Nitric oxide has been shown to be important in the following cellular activities:

• Help memory and behavior by transmitting information between nerve cells in the brain
• Assist the immune system at fighting off bacteria and defending against tumors
• Regulate blood pressure by dilating arteries
• Reduce inflammation
• Improve sleep quality
• Increase your recognition of sense (i.e. smell)
• Increase endurance and strength
• Assist in gastric motility

So technically speaking, nitric oxide that is increased by 40% should aid memory and improve brain function in general?

this desu
also wont send you into amphetamine psychosis when you take it for days on end

desu senpai
desu. senpai.
Tbh. Senpai.

at least 20 mg? i don't remember what dosage the pill i took was but it was in capsule form similar to the OP image except it was a solid orange color.

i was honestly disappointed the first time i tried it. I want to experience the intense focus this drug gives as claimed by many of my friends, but maybe my brain isn't wired enough for this drug

>so true tho, one of the best kinds of drugs, i've never done Adderall but have ingested a lot of Dexedrine and Ritalin . easily the best high, like coke only lasts longer and is a consistent high.
All drugs are great at the start. Then you keep doing them and suddenly they aren't so great anymore. Then you feel worse when you aren't on them and want to do more. Then you don't even feel good when you are on them

>take adderal
>get a finance job
>?????
>own wall st

ive been on it for 3 years n thy just keep better n better , although i cant function as an adult when im off it like i refuse to do anything n feel tired as sht even if i sleeped 14 hours other thn tht its really changed my lfie for the better

no coffee no cigarettes no alcohol?

try vyvanse boys

Sheeet. Should I send this to a PO box, or is that suspicious?

Can't really send indian powders to parents house LMAO

lol u think ur the only one with that idea?

medsforbitcoin.com/

Just ship to your house. Your parents won't care.

shouldnt you be fapping right now op, or are you on a low

Average addy user:

Holy fuck, I'm like so productive on addys!

Reality:
>spends 16 hours straight watching porn and fapping

them bags under your eyes might give it away that you're on adderall

short term is what you should be worried about, the come down sucks and makes you feel all flat, drained and anxious. You literally go from this golden warm and fuzzy energetic feeling down to this grey depressed anxious underworld.

My girlfriends mom is prescribed these and ahe beats up her lil sister. What do? Some friends i grew with were in state's custody and they had it way worse than any abusive home situation I've witnessed. This seems like a no win situation

>ive been on it for 3 years n thy just keep better n better
> i cant function as an adult when im off it

You guys realise ADHD is a meme right?

Why US doctors pump everybody full of amphetamines, benzos, and other hardcore neural chemical shit is beyond me.

European docs (read: real doctors concerned for your health) would never even think to recommend such crazy shit that really fucks with your brain chemistry.

I literally don't know a single American that isn't on some type of shit or another.

kek yup

>beyond me

You are now aware that med school text books by pharma companies, if not directly through deals cut with Pearson and McGraw

You're over exaggerating but yeah sometimes I get stuck in a Veeky Forums addy loop of shitposting without realizing it.

Nobody cares. Drugs are just another modern technology you should choose whether or not you want to use.

Makes sense. But what makes average American people so complacent about it?

My GF has conversations with her mom that go something like: "Mom can you call the doc I need more adderall. Also I'm thinking about getting a prescription for Xanax cause I get nervous before public presentations and speeches."

"Ok Sweetie, Ill make sure your brother gets his too"

Then I ask her why she is on this shit and wants more stupid shit - instantly making me the judgmental asshole.

Apparently feeling anything is seen as a problem

Nervous about that test? - Pill for that

Somebody make you angry? - Pill for that

Feeling sad? - Pill for that

and on it goes

im on methylphinidate

doesnt make me feel crazy and sweaty like adderall

>mfw the Adderall kicks in
Closest thing to NZT

Yeah, why bother lifting weights, eating big, or doing anything else to improve. I mean if you're doing it as a novelty it's fine, but you're in for rude wake up call when whatever reason makes it impossible to continue.

Correctly dosed amphetamines make you better at everything, if you have access and aren't taking them you're just sabotaging yourself. Calling it a crutch because you're literally performing better with it is terrible reasoning; humans are nothing but chemical meat machines that need constant maintenance to function optimally, and it would be trivial to name a dozen other chemicals that you are happy to ingest/breathe/drink for the rest of your life, many of which offer nothing like the benefits of amphetamines.

With these sorts of things, you shouldn't make inferences from really low-level biochemical factoids like that. You should look for reputable medical reviews that consider clinical research done on humans with the chemical.

Paul Erdős said some similar shit.

man i wish i was a normie,
i take adderall but i actually have adhd so it doesn't get me high at all or even super focused, it just gets me as focused as everyone around me and actually able to do some work

No one is focused mate. We all just force ourselves to do work.

sup?

...

Where you live? Hook a brotha up my connections suck dick

too much of an appetite killer

the instant you go off adderall your appetite rushes back and you instantly gain what you lost

source: I'm an adhd-ridden millennial who took it for three years, lost twenty pounds on it, then gained twenty back off it

I'm making progress by not using adderall and exercising/moderating my diet though

not necessarily a bad thing

>Not hungry
>Eat the perfect amount of calories and nutrition every time
It's flawless.

everyone I know bar maybe one or two people who doses adderall or similar drugs do no fucking work for 9 weeks of the semester then dope themselves up on it to get their uni work done. that's the issue. It is a crutch that most people rely on when they fuck themselves into a corner by being lazy up until the magic pill comes to the rescue for them. that there is the issue the other poster is referring to. it breeds nothing but laziness because you can just tell yourself it'll be fine to leave everything until the last minute because addy makes the last minute better. the moment you find yourself without it in a similar situation, you are completely and utterly fucked because you have no trained focus and no pill to fall back on.

can confirm

Too much tachycardia. Resting heart rate of ~130bpm.
Too much vasoconstriction causing your fingers to freeze in the winter.
Too much vasoconstriction to the point of inducing erectile dysfunction with chronic high doses. Masturbated flaccid, came, was very curious experience.
Too much seeing spinning, strobing, flashing lights. Voices echoing in my head and symbols flashing and cascading down the walls.
Too much doing tasks and finding out later I didn't do what I thought I did.

Too much.

can we bring the "health" back into Veeky Forums

drug use is unhealthy. working out on stims is unhealthy.

God can this board just become more focused on being healthy than getting HUGGGE

cuck

Modafinil gets my brain going so hard I can't take it more than 2 days straight without overloading. It's fucking amazing for getting shit done but then you're tired and you can't turn off until it wears.

>take adderall
>up for 5 days straight
>????
>CEO of a fortune 500 company

I was on it for 13yrs straight until recently completely changed my personality was 145 shredded as fuck tho couldnt gain weight if you wanna cut then its perfect just i wouldnt take it everyday also your hands and feet get super cold

>the moment you you find yourself in a position without food you will be completely and utterly fucked in the gym

"But I'm bad at task x because I don't have thing y that makes me good at task x!" isn't an argument against thing y. It's an argument against being caught without thing y. Are you going to tell carpenters that hammers are a crutch next? I mean, if they had more practice driving nails without them they would be in better shape on the random day they forget it, right?

>"health"

Nice buzzword. Gotta watch out for those toxins bro, wouldn't want to close your chakras with negative energy right?

im gangsta

Fuck that shit I didn't eat enough as a kid when I was on it. I was only eating around 3 ramen packets a week and a caprisun once a day.

Therapeutic doses of amphetamines are fine if you don't mind a roughly 60% boost risk of developing Parkinson’s disease (PD).

High doses are neurotoxic though.

This. I fucked myself up freshman year of college doing insane amounts of adderall. Nothing is the same anymore, and I'm a junior now. No motivation, no excitement. Fuckin no joke

>be more sociable/elated
I dunno if it's just me, but it made me never want to talk and kinda killed my emotions.

why do you keep trying to steer your analogies back to the gym? they're two completely different things. also, carpenters actually require a hammer or something similar to put nails in. you don't need amphetamines to study. the fact is most people take adderall as a shortcut to reducing weeks of study into shorter periods of time. the only time i see a benefit to use amphetamine is the day of a test because it boosts performance. if you put all your faith to do any work in a pill, you're creating another port of potential failure that can come back and bite you.

the optimal usage of it in someone who does not require it to function is none until day of performance and then a safe dosage to boost performance. i don't know why i'm bothering when you also dismiss health risks associated with adderall usage like they're made up.

>no real long term side effects
lol

I try to pick analogies people on here are most likely to understand since the level of discourse is so low. The gym is the one common denominator on this board so it makes for the lowest hanging fruit when it comes time to explain things that the teenagers on here would otherwise not understand.

Also not that it's terribly relevant, but you can drive nails with all sorts of things that aren't hammers. The flat side of a wrench, a crowbar, etc. It just doesn't work as well, which was the point. The fact that some people don't take advantage of the productivity amphetamines enable just makes them foolish; it doesn't make amphetamines bad. No matter how much you're willing to work, you'll perform better than you would otherwise. This is true of everyone, not just lazy people. It isn't amphetamines' fault that some people are lazy, and it isn't the case that everyone who takes stimulants is lazy. People who already work hard can work even harder on amphetamines, whether it's in the gym, academia, video games, you name it. That's a pretty substantial gain to throw away over "another port of potential failure" (assuming you meant "point," humans already have so many you may as well stop counting).

The optimal usage is an individual thing, but I'll agree is probably lower during prep than it is during tests/competition/etc. Still, for most people there will be a dose low enough that it helps their daily life without meaningful side effects.

And yes, I do dismiss the "health risks" associated with regular low-moderate doses of adderall like they're made up, because for most people most of the time they may as well be. Of course some people won't tolerate it well; I feel sorry for them the same way I feel sorry for celiacs. Doesn't mean the rest of us should go without bread.

what i have literally said from the beginning is that the vast majority of people who adderall use it as a way of doing no work for 4/5's of the time. that's why it's a crutch. that's what this entire thread is about - the misuse of adderall by lazy people who want a quick out to make up for their laziness. i literally mentioned that in my first post and every post since. the laziness is the issue and it makes minimal difference and will leave you fucked. regimented study on adderall will be better, but you still face the very real risk of side effects and addiction.

frankly i'm at loss why you're trying to talk like such a smug condescending asshole to everyone you've replied to when in reality every single person has bought up the inherent stupidity of giving people too lazy to do the work normally an acute high dose fix-me-up when in reality you're arguing for a low-dose routine with regular study habits - the absence of which is literally why other posters were calling it lazy. then again you post anime so that might explain it.

I'm being condescending because frankly the people I'm responding to seem to be incredibly dense. I'll try to make it as simple as possible for you.

>Lots of people who take amphetamines are lazy

This is true. But, contrary to what you seem to think, this is not what everyone else is discussing.

>BECAUSE of the above, amphetamines are a crutch

THIS is false, and this is the point under contention.

If you still cannot understand I'm going to assume you're baiting at this point, nobody can be so dense. Have a pleasant evening.

Let's get some things out of the way for any of you that are using it, plan on it, or care to know: amphetamines are not necessaily good for you just because you kept the dose low. low-dosage or not, anyone who takes it is going to have alterations in their brain as a result. just because the dosage is lower doesn't mean a change isn't happening, you're body doesn't have a precise threshold of ill effects. it's a gradient. you might be only getting fucked a little bit but you're still getting fucked. or you can disregard that, confirm your own bias and a short time later you end up with people like this:
and this:
and this:
i'm not touting out meth as the boogeyman, but it's a close relative and if you've never had someone close get on it you might not get it, but the brain truly changes. You will become a different person. It's sad. obviously adderall isn't nearly as drastic but don't think it's alterations are non-existent just because you kept a low dosage. if you inject test, even a small dose, you still get a superficial boost in testosterone. i know not every drug is like this, like nicotine can switch from sort of a stim to a sedative, but still the exception shouldn't be guiding you.
>inb4
i'm not against any drug or it's legalization with the exception of scopolamine.

>the level of discourse is so low
there's some bright gems on Veeky Forums get the fuck out of my face you fucking weeb

Any interest in selling?

Anyone with tips for finding a hook for these? Was thinking of just putting an ad on Craigslist saying 'hey I will buy your script'

>get high multiple times a week
>snort rit
>do coke
>take mdma at parties
>take 2c-b on the reg
Desu, you have no idea how much fun drugs are. Don't knock it till you try it